UFO's and the Evolution Connection Alien Intrusion

Hi Ya All, ((( Smiles )))

I've been reading this book called Alien Intrusion.
UFO and the Evolution Connection by Gary Bates.

Interesting book..
And then I was watching the Ben Stein DVD Expelled..
Interesting movie..

Well, I was listening to Professor Dawkins talk.
He was talking about how unlikely it is that God exists.
He said he's unsure but would give it 99 percent.
Or quite far from 50 percent.
Unsure but very unlikely but nobody knows how it started.
We don't know how self replicating molecules did it or started either.
But he did say meeting God would be a very unpleasant prospect for him...
And I think it would be an unpleasant prospect for him too.
As he did say some terrible awfull things about God on that DVD..
One that can't really prove that there is no God.
Or doesn't really know for sure though he thinks it's highly unlikely.
Should be more carefull about what one says like that..
Just in case, but since God can read hearts anyway..
Humm...
But the interesting thing is..
He said there was some sort of signiture..
A signiture of some sort of designer a higher intellegence..
But with how it all got started off as even he said nobody knows how it started..
Was maybe it was seeded onto the planet..
The planet was seeded somehow I guess he meant by outer space??
Seeded meaning comeing from above???
Aliens not God is more exceptable to him??
But then who created the Aliens??
As we don't really know and then it starts all over again..
Can Aliens really be trusted to tell the truth anyway??
About who created them..

Just food for thought..
Very confusing indeed???
But interesting book..

Space Aliens = Demons seems to be the consensus among those who've considered the matter. No reason they shouldn't take advantage of the paradigm and widespread ignorance.

Ya.. ((( Smiles )))

In the book I was reading the thought of..
how credible is it to think that literally thousands of extraterrestrials would fly millions or billions of light-years
simply to teach New Age philosophy, deny Christianty, and support the occult...
Why would they consistently lie about things which we know are true, and why would they purposely decieve their contacts?
It seems incredible that seemingly alien space travelers are so interested in Christian ideas..

Ankerberg and Weldon..

It's so interesting what is comeing out of the mouths of theses so called aliens..
They even reinvented the role of Lucifer.
He's the good guy now..
The angel of light as the aliens seem to be obessed with masquerading as light!
And spreading a new gospel according to ET..

Fallen angels, demons...
Reinventing themselves to the public for exceptance.
Reinventing the role of Lucifer.
They don't deny it.
They promote it.

Hi CTD, ((( Smiles )))

Good point..
I've been reading this book titled as above.
And as you posted..



And I have something to post about that train of thought later on but first..

Freedom of speech protects freedom of religion get the U.N. out of our lives..
And freedom of speech right here is..

There's probably no God.
Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

Verses..
"The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God."
Psalm 53

"There definitely is a God.
So join The Christian Party and enjoy your life."

"There is God, believe! Don't Worry. Enjoy your life!"

Without freedom of speech there would be no trendy buses.
And maybe only one side could speak out.
But we don't need any admendment from the U.N..
Plus to me and others..
"Probably " is not good enough to bet ones life on it yet..
But thats what we are free to do under God's plan.
Free to choose in this life.

Please, O Jehovah, accept the free offering of my mouth and teach me Your judgements. Ps 119:108
I am afflicted very much; O Jehovah, give me life by Your word. Ps 119:107

Free offerings of my mouth and life by God's word.
Thats freedom of speech right there.
Thats how I see it..

And plus, the Alien Intrusion and Avowed atheist and science fiction writer, the late Dr Carl Sagan,
endorsed the idea of life on other worlds as far back as 1966..
he has played a leading role in convinceing the public about the existence of life in space..
So therefore astrobiology..
Sagan played a leading role in NASA's space program, as a consultant and advisor from the inception.

Interesting conception..
But UFO's Messengers from God?
For thoses who believe in the possibilty of God or even thoses with an atheistic point of view.
Though it's possible to change ones point of view under certain circumstances in a situation such as that yet..
What does the Bible say about such beings of this cosmic event.
Interesting concept indeed..
Whats out there??

This is an excellent video that touches on the subject:

http://urlbam.com/ha/M0017

Excellent video Russ..
Also called the Watchers.
Evolution UFO's the Supernatural the Watchers..
Messengers from God??

He shall call fire down from heaven (lightening) (Revelations 13:13)
[Which Maitreya claims to be his sign]

He shall have no desire for women (Daniel 11:37)
[Look at the breasts on that Maitreya] and then look at the breasts on the freemason,wiccan and satanist baphomet image.

Chemtrails? Mercury..
Why would they do this to us??

Day of Declaration..

There be no room for doubt!

Maitreya is an Anuk or known as Annunaki. A fallen Watcher.
He will come claiming he is "Jesus" and try to imitate Jesus as the Messiah.
He is a False Messiah and False Prophet who will come to perform many miracles and herald the Antichrist as God.
He will perform miracles and speak religion but he is really the second beast of Revelation 13.
He will deceive many. Even most in the churches today.

Maitreya will be invited by the international media to speak directly to the entire world through the television networks linked together by satellites.
On this Day of Declaration, we will see his face on the television screen wherever we have access..

At the earliest possible moment, Maitreya will demonstrate His true identity.
On the Day of Declaration, the international television networks will be linked together, and Maitreya will be invited to speak to the world.

We will see His face on television, but each of us will hear His words telepathically in our own language as Maitreya simultaneously impresses the minds of all humanity.
Even those who are not watching Him on television will have this experience.

Something important to beware of is to NOT WATCH this worldwide television spectacle.
This Maitreya has dangerous mind control and hypnotic powers and will enslave the minds of those who watch him on television.
DO NOT WATCH IT.

http://www.sherrytalkradio.com/maitreya/index.htm

It also makes sense about the chemtrails that is comeing upon the world right now..
To condition all of us for this.
What Russ has said about this makes sense and when people see this..
There wil be no doubt that the reasons for it are true.
Project bluebeam and the endtime deception..
This is a supernatural event.
Yes the watchers.
The "giants where believed to be the offspring of fallen angels ( the Nephilim; also called Watchers) and human women..
The story of the giants derives from Genesis 6..
Also among the Quram texts are at least six, perhaps as many as eleven copies of the Book of Giants.
Enochic Book Of Giants (4Q532)
They are comeing back as foretold.

They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men- Daniel 2:43

What's the Bibles Viewpoint on UFO's..
Are they Messengers From God?
Or something else??

Interesting concept so I will share this..

As the 20th century winds down and conditions on earth steadily deteriorate,
belief in unidentified flying objects (UFO's) and their passengers, extraterresterial being's, continues to spread.
Are UFO's just fiction, a deception, a hoax, perpetrated by people who like to laugh at the public's gullibility?

Thoses who claim to have seen UFO's or their extraterrestrial passengers include seemingly normal, trustworthy people;
in fact, thoses who believe in theses visitors from other planets include well-educated professors and scientists.
They are convinced that extraterrestrials are observing humans and, at times, communicating with them.
So called extraterrestrial support groups are available to assist people who claim they have made contact with space visitors.

Alien Survival Plan

In Aliens Among Us, Ruth Montgomery interviews some of a growing number of people who are convinced that they are
extraterrestrial visitors residing in human bodies.
Some of these who claim to be humanized extraterrestrials said that in the year 2000, there would be
" a cosmic event that the hierarchies of angels and masters have been preparing for."
Some people believe that extraterrestrails are useing UFO's to collect and preserve plant and animal specimens or
that UFO's will be used as rescue ships to transfer millions of humans away from impending desolation of the earth.
After the great destruction, humans are to be returned to begin " the New Age and the New Order" of spiritual awareness.

One young man from Colorado, USA., a member of a group who called themselves " Alien Youth" said in all seriousness:
" My friends and I are waiting for our alien ancestors to beam us up."
A few of thoses who assert that they are extraterrestrials claim they are lead by God,
and others claim that they speak freely with him for advice in assisting humanity.

Is God working through visitors from other planets to save mankind from an upcoming world catastrophe?

God's Communication With Mankind

Early in Man's history, God communicated with humans.
The Bible record describes divine conversations with Adam and Eve, Noah, Abraham, and others.
(Genesis 3:8-10;6:13,15:1)

Dreams ,voices, and visions were used to communicate God's will and to the produce the Bible.
However after the Bible was completed, was there a need for direct heavenly communication with mankind?

No, since the Bible states that the Holy Scriptures make " the man of God...fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."
(2 Timothy 3:17)

According to the Bible, guidence for theses troubled times is to come from the written Word of God.
Neverless, is there any reason to believe that we would receive communication or special instructions directly from God through an extraterrestrial spokesman?

No, for the apostle Paul stated:
" Even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declare to you as good news, let him be accursed."
-- Galatians 1:8

Although the assertions of supposed extraterrestrail beings seem to agree with Bible prophecies that the earth is soon to undergo major cataclysmic changes,
they offer a method of survival that relies on creatures.
The Bible does not urge men to flee to the supposed security of alien spacecraft or any other place.
Rather, it tells us to seek protection in a dedicated relationship with God, which dedication is symbolized by water baptism.
(1 Peter 3:21, compare Psalm 91:7; Matthew 28:19,20; John 17:3)

And Jesus said that " he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved."----- Matthew 24:13...

Do not theses scriptures emphasize a spiritual relationship with God for survival rather then a physical location of refuge?

Therefore, instead of assisting mankind to survive, stories about ' nonhumans beings'
divert people's attention away from what God actually requires for their everlasting welfare.

Who may try to steer mankind away from God's means of survival, yet claim to represent God?

Ed Conroy, in his book Report on Communion, states that " serious ufologists [thoses who study UFO's]
with training in the psychological and social sciences" include comparative studies of "bedroom visitors, 'ghosts, poltergeists, apparitions,
religious visions, and what have been regarded as demons.
" Many ufologists and thoses who claim to be extraterrestrails in human form state that useing spaceships to travel is mostly unnecessary.
They say that theses beings can travel invisibly and materialize anywhere on earth without arriving in spacecraft..

The Bible warns that Satan and his demons are intent on misleading mankind.
They take advantage of mankind's despair and hopelessness to offer attractive, but false, solutions.
(2 Corinthians 11:14)

Hence, the Bible warning:
" In later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons."
-- 1 Timothy 4:1..

In like manner today, any supposed visits and seemingly benefical guidance from such beings should be rejected,
whatever form they may take.

Thoses who would rather follow the advice of " extraterrestrails" than Gods Word are bound to be mislead,
-- a terrible mistake to make in theses critical times..

"Give 'em an inch, and they'll take a mile." This is so true with the increasingly desperate evopushing UFO crowd, that I cannot form it in any way that isn't an understatement.



What's that talking about? New microorganisms were discovered in the Earth's stratosphere. But apply the principle of unlimited extrapolation, and you can imagine anything you want!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090318094642.htm

The evidence not only "does not conclusively establish" anything extra-terrestrial, it doesn't even suggest it.

"Give 'em an inch, and they'll take a mile."
((((( Smiles )))))

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth..
There is only one ultimate source of life.
All life is drawn from that source/God..
By virtue of His presence in all things..
Life exists.
Nothing exists without God.

The Angels that fell by free will & free choice too rebel.
As well as Satan himself and the Demons who became so because they choose to be so.
And what one wants to call the Aliens.
Extra-terrestrial beings.
And by free will and by free choice.
Some humans choose to exploit and be exploited by them.
They do exist they are around.
As the Bible agree's they are around too.
And we both know that it's true they are.

The Bible warns that Satan and his demons are intent on misleading mankind.
They take advantage of mankind's despair and hopelessness to offer attractive, but false, solutions.
(2 Corinthians 11:14)

Hence, the Bible warning:
" In later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons."
-- 1 Timothy 4:1..

As the teachings of the so called extra-terrestrial beings of the UFO's are..
As there is only one ultimate source of all creation/life.
Someday the gig will be up for them.
Until then this is what we all go through in life.
As we all choose what we want to do with it.
And I choose as well as others on this planet do as well..
To believe in Jehovah God.
As the source of all life.
And they can imagine anything they want!
At their own peril of course.
Thats what they do.

Amazing Fact!

In late March 1997, the nation was shocked when 39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult took their own lives by downing
fatal doses of Phenobarbital and vodka.
Heaven's gate members sincerely believed that they would be raptured up to a spacecraft traveling behind the bright
Hale-Bopp comet.
The cult leader Marshall Applewhite quoted selectively from the Bible to support his teachings.

As we all should know & apparently they didn't.
The Bible does not say we will be raptured up to a spacecraft traveling behind the bright Hale-Bopp comet.

Hence, the Bible warning:
" In later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons."
-- 1 Timothy 4:1..

Now that is An Amazing Fact!

Interesting CTD, (((( Smiles ))))

I was reading your thread Relevant Collaborations.

http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=54701#Post54701
And in reading this.



Which goes to show..


What if God withheld the rain for two years what would their science do then!
All life on earth would perish as we are so dependent on divine intervention on earth so very dependent on so many miracles..
To even exist.
The sun sets babies are born crops are pollinated and produce.

As 75 percent of Americans are chronically dehydrated and a mere two percent drop in body water can trigger fuzzy
short term memory , trouble with basic math, and difficulty focusing on the computer screen or a printed page.

And thats an Amazing Fact!
What are they going to do then!
Lots of people would be on their knees pretty fast as scientists are perishable too!

I don't believe evolution is a good long term plan.
Or so called space aliens for that matter.
Well maybe a good one for thoses who are willing to perish instead of worshipping the true God!
Anything but that they must say.
So lets fly away with the aliens instead, lets try to excape.
Is that their long term plan???

Their long term plan is simply to keep coming up with ad hoc short-term excuses not to face truth.

People forget the purpose and power of logic (real logic - not just any philosophical drivel). Logic prevents untrue statements from being proven true. Until logic is overturned, these people have no hope of actual success. The most they ever can hope to do is present faulty reasoning and hope others are fooled thereby.

All untrue things are untrue. They are simply not subject to change the way evo-pushers would have us believe. "2 = 225" will not be true tomorrow, or a bazillion years hence. Neither will "man has evolved from apes" or "man has evolved from pond scum" or "man has evolved from a dot". There is no magic way of getting around it. Inventing a new word game that tricks the unsuspecting changes nothing.

Talking about the faith of evolutionists to believe in the impossible..
Have you ever read the computations done on the likelihood of every favorable evolutionary factor being able to produce a horse?

In the book, Evolution in Action by Huxley..
Page 46.
Now thats a miracle indeed!
That the improbable so called happened, so they say..
Yet it takes faith to believe in the Supreme Creator of the universe but not in evolution??
I think that takes a leap of faith.
I say they are blind to the folly that mocks their intelligent face.
Blinded indeed!
In their attempt to spread their own miserable philosophies over us all.
See what their hopeless outlook has done to society as a whole.
Listen to it's existence in lots of our music in this world.
Smell it in our polluted air.
Taste it in our worthless food.
This sets up a paradox for thoses who would put themselves above God.
Take God out of society and this is what you get.
If one lead's the world to believe we just happen to be a miraculous accident evolving from "pond scum."
People will act like it in kind.
The world is a mess indeed.
Do the math.... (((( Smiles ))))

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The UFO's are setting us up for some delusion.
They are messengers of deception.
For sure.

The Alien-Hunting Scientists, (((( Smiles ))))

Aliens could be among us..
They have scanned the heavens for decades in search of extraterrestrial life.
"How do we know all life on Earth decended from a single origin."?
They say..
The idea that alien micro-organisms could be hiding on Earth.
Unusual organisms abound --including chemical-eating bacteria that dwell deep in the ocean and organisms that thrive in boiling- hot springs --
but that doesn't mean they're different life forms entirely?
" How weird do they have to be to suggest a second genesis as opposed to just an obscure branch of the family tree?

Interesting article.
There is more but what stood out for me is the words..
"If a prospective alien civilization wants to get in touch with us."
and..
" There has to be altruism in the universe."

Not God, Not Fallen Angels & Demons..
But Aliens and no God as in Genesis.
Sounds like that is what they are looking for instead of Genesis.

It's out there and on earth for sure..
There will be plenty of surprises no doubt.

But as CTD said..



2 Thessalonians 2:11
And because of this, God will send to them a working of error " Strong Delusion ", for them to believe the lie,
that all may be judged, those not having believed the truth, but having had delight in unrighteousness.

No doubt they are out there!
If they find them, staying away from them is the best choice.
It's not a good thing.
For sure.

In The World That Was... ((( Smiles )))

Those are the same vehicals the fallen angels came in in Genesis 6 no doubt..
How could that be??
As in Ezekiel 1..
They most likely have access to those like kinds of vehicals/chariots for travel.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/spaceships_ezekiel.htm

It's not impossible for them to be seen in that way at all.
To manifest.
They are supernatural beings but what sets them apart from other Angels.
Is that they are Fallen.
And can attack mankind.
As they have done so before and can do so now.
Thats why Jehovah God wants us to pray like our lives depend on it.
To protect us from them.
They that deceive the whole world.
Satan and his Fallen Angels.

The Bible warns that Satan and his demons are intent on misleading mankind.

10 Signs That Jesus Is Coming Back Soon

http://somehelpful.info/Prophecy/Signs.html

Return of the Nephilim?

People are seeing lots of UFO's and viewing other strange events.
The fallen angel's stepping it up a bit?
A sign of the latter days?

How do UFOs connect with the coming of Maitreya?

Is that where all those sightings are coming from.
That explains alot.

He shall call fire down from heaven (lightening) (Revelations 13:13)
[Which Maitreya claims to be his sign]

He shall have no desire for women (Daniel 11:37)
[Look at the breasts on that Maitreya] and then look at the breasts on the freemason,wiccan and satanist baphomet image.

The fallen angel's stepping it up a bit?
A sign of the latter days?

Antichrist maitreya 666/UFOs aren't extraterrestrial They're extradimensional

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U86UB6BxxRg

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT....
UFO'S?

End Time Deception as Demons Are Impersonating Aliens!

http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=234

They are supernatural beings!

If it's not showing for you,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFHL6y5YmCI&feature=colike

The researchers themselves say things the populizers don't repeat.

---Another 'Goldilocks' Planet Stirs ET Hopes /
From: ICR --

No, I do not believe in UFO's because the Bible would mention it. There are evolutionists that insist there are such 'beings' and that they do indeed come to earth. But I have no trust in what evolutionists push on Creationists.

In the beginning God created.....all things were made by Him. ALL things!
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Extraterrestrial life would also contradict the Bible's claim that "Christ died once for all" to pay for the sins of humanity (Hebrews 10:10), since to be fair, He would have to die as many times as there are planets inhabited with intelligent life.7

If the Bible is right, there should be no life that originated in outer space. If, instead, naturalistic theories are correct, then life should also have evolved elsewhere in the universe.8 So far, nobody is out there, and Kepler-22b looks just like one of "the worlds [that] were framed by the word of God."9

References / <www.icr.org>
Here is an article from the Institute for Creation Research:
Another 'Goldilocks' Planet Stirs ET Hopes (http://www.icr.org/article/another-goldilocks-planet-stirs-et/)

-Lynn posted--

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT....
UFO'S?

End Time Deception as Demons Are Impersonating Aliens!

They are supernatural beings!
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--(Abigail posted-)
Here is an article from the Institute for Creation Research: What Will the Next Biological Breakthrough Be?
(http://www.icr.org/article/6768/)

So far, there is no evidence for life anywhere but on earth, and there is no evidence out there for even the general conditions required for life. This is the essence of the Fermi Paradox, named for the physicist Enrico Fermi. He hypothesized that if life evolves naturally from chemicals to intelligent thinkers, then "why haven't we seen any traces of extraterrestrial life such as probes or transmissions?"5

In contrast, the biblical model of life's origins straightforwardly accommodates the fact that life has only been found on earth.6 Nor does the search for the origin of life require billions of dollars. That discovery is made simply by following the historical clues back to Genesis.
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This is another subject that has no conclusive evidence to back it up. Heresy.

Here is an article from the Institute for Creation Research: SETI Funding Linked to Belief in Evolution
(http://www.icr.org/article/seti-funding-linked-belief-evolution/)

The reasons to fund SETI are firmly rooted in the belief that life evolved. If enough public interest can be generated to reignite SETI's telescope array amidst an economic downturn, it would not reflect humanity's pioneering spirit of discovery, but would instead involve donors duped into funding a dubious cause because of godless evolutionary ideas that have no evidence to support them.
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Heresy and more in the order of evolution topic.

Good Video It Showed Up Just Fine CTD!
The Encounter With Demons posing as Aliens that seeded this planet because the blueprint of life being found in a seed is in no doubt there, so now to try to explain this baffleing phenomenon of intelligence...
Some seem to accept the Alien Theory that...
Space aliens possibly "seeded" life here "intelligent alien design".
So they see the intelligent design but would rather give credit to supernatural being's they can call the Aliens instead of supernatural beings that are fallen angels posing as Aliens.
So if people around the world are seeing Aliens it's because they are being visited by these supernatural beings that God created but since then fell and became these demonic beings posing as space creatures.
And we know they exist and we know what they are.
And they would rather believe in that then God created it.

Hi Abigail, (((( Smiles ))))

If they are seeing any of these supernatural beings they are not human that's for sure. The only thing the Bible mentions in the air and around us are fallen Angels demonic force's and they could manifest and poise as aliens if they wanted too. And try to spread the gospel of E.T around and that's what is being seen by those who see them.
The Bible talks about that the end times will be times of great delusion and deception so why not this too?
Maybe some are being visited by what they call Aliens so they believe in the Supernatural as being true but can't except they are supernatural fallen creatures created by a powerful God. Who could also be considered a Supernatural being too.
Except A Powerful Creative God Above All His Creation the first cause. They do not want to except that..
That's for sure.

The Nephilim & The Coming Strong Delusion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsZPRl878Zo

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-1973-ufo-incident-turned-life-upside-20539516
The person that saw the U.F.O has had conflicting thoughts about whether he was visted by aliens or demons.
The great delusion no doubt is that they are putting on a show for all of us posing as The Aliens. I believe more people are catching on to that.