News you won't see in controlled mainstream media.

Almost no activity here for 1 week. No poisoned people here?

Why is the amalgam forum so dead?

Hi findthetruth,

I've noticed the same thing. I've only noticed this happening this year. It used to be always very very active as you can see by the posts of the past.

I think there are alot of lurkers/readers who perhaps are happy with the information already posted and so much has been presented and repeated many times, that perhaps they do not feel the need to sign up and ask further questions at this time....

Otherwise, I do not know why. I'm sure there are plenty more poisoned people around, but there are also many who may have no idea what it is and would not always guess "amalgam". Those that do? Well, they're the informed and fortunate ones.

I've seen plenty of people join and leave the forum over the few years I"ve been here. A number of them have moved on with their lives and gotten improved health. It takes a long time to detox mercury too. There are also those with more stubborn and difficult problems that may go further than amalgam mercury, so they may continue to linger.

Perhaps we'll get an influx of new poisoned members at some point and things will spark up again. Personally, I would prefer nobody else has to suffer like this and need to, but if they are poisoned? I'd consider this place one of the best forums to come to.

But I still see that people are reading the posts on here and hopefully gaining information that will help them with their health problems, whether they choose to sign up and post or not. So the posts here will continue to be a source of interesting diverse information regardless.

[u]I've noticed the same thing. I've only noticed this happening this year. It used to be always very very active as you can see by the posts of the past.[/u]

What has changed in your opinion? Did they leave? Is there a new and better board?

What's wrong?

Maybe it is because of the illuminati chematrail spraying and people are too scared to post details about their illness because big brother is watching...

The admin is a brave individual who is keeping this system alive despite all people leaving. It's difficult times. I hear Alex Jones reported black helicopters are spying on him and he even got death threats because of his infowars website.
It takes at lot of courage to stand out and tell the truth.

We are ready for a change. Even the aliens are watching us now:

http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=54396#Post54396

They are still holding back because they feel we are a primitive race and this is true, the elite is cruel and animal like and shaped the society accordingly. It is not us it is them.

There certainly has been a decrease of posts here, but traffic has increased.

It's an interesting situation.

Hi Findthetruth,

Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I don't know what has changed exactly....but it's interesting. As Russ has said, traffic has increased. That is still a very positive sign.

I think more and more people are becoming aware of reality of mercury poisoning and have no doubt done much reading/research about it already. New members may join up and post sometime, but maybe for now, the ones lurking are content just to read.

As long as such people feel they are gaining some help from the posts already here, that's a big plus.

Hmmmm... How do you understand those numbers Russ...
I'm not encouraging you to answer that, but it is interresting...

Maybe more chemtrail trafic......
The traffic has not only increased, but also shifted... some other forums on this board must get that new traffic.....

I bet you have full control on your statistics.... but...... i'm curious...



Btw.. the amalgam forum.... hmmmm

I don't really know... maybe the shrinks got to the potential new members?...
Told em amalgam is safe and theire wacked for beliving.... naaah

I don't really know.....

Maybe people are just getting dumber by the day.. naaah... or yes... nahhh
People are atleast finding this board, and they are generatig traffic on other forums here, so...... The people are good probably.....

However.. why amalgam isn't interresting to the masses, i don't know...
This board and it's members has certainly helped me!


Thankyou all, for both information shared, friendship and support!

Russ - Ive ntoiced there's a problem enetring teh froum from the ehrballure main site - its been like that for some time now. it might explain the low traffic. people cant get in...

Hi Jinx, (((( Smiles ))))

I've had that problem too where it will not go through.
Sometimes I have problems getting on this board but yes..
It's happened to me many times if I have tried to enter that way.
I give up and try later on or just go through a link.
Plus sometimes posting with the reply feature it won't post but will if I don't use reply.
It's on and off.

Hmmm.. time to go bughunting Russ... hmmm....

Scim the code line for line if you have to.... this is Important!...
Cookie clearing issue? Or worse?.....

I can see you're not using URL rewriting... so... it should be fairly "easy" to fix......
"fairly easy".... hehehe.....

Hello to all..i am one of those people who have been reading this site and searching for answers without signing up. so i kind of know some of you lol I've been coming to this site for a few months on and off just looking for ways to get better.

I was diagnosed with mercury poisoning this summer after being sick for 2 yrs, not knowing what was wrong with me..i have almost all the classical symptoms that one would have from mercury toxicity. I had several vaccines in throughtout my childhood and also got my fillings removed this summer by a good dentist..im in my 20s now btw I am feeling a little bit better after doing weeks of chelation and taking supplements like chlorella, cilantro, chlorophyll, Lipoic Acid, as well as vitamins and minerals. I just added some modified citrus pectin to my regimen which is suppose to be able to detox heavy metals in small amounts. I also eat very little sugar, very little dairy, and anything with yeast as i know that i have candida overgrowth in my gut. I've tried many things like acupuncture for a few months but that didnt do much help and was costly. I think my main problem is detoxing mercury from the brain..most of my symptoms are neurological such as brain fog, concentration, sensitivity to light, ect. i also cant do any exercise do to the fact that i have no stamina..not sure how i can fix that which sucks because i used to play sports alot. I also have been diagnosed with ebstein barr virus which im sure I got become my immune system is bad.

Anyway i know this is alot for the first response but you guys have been helpful by posting different ways to detox mercury..i hope to speak to some of you and i wish you all the best

Hi Trujerz,

Nice to meet you!

I'm glad to hear that you have already had your amalgams removed by a good dentist. That at least has set you on the right path. For some, amalgam removal alone can result in some significant improvements, but many of us tend to get the roller coaster ride and sometimes the symptoms can worsen due to stored mercury that starts to dump post amalgam removal.

But this does not mean it happens to everybody. It's just a wise idea to start chelating as soon as possible to start reducing the blood and other areas of mercury and then later, get onto the brain/organ chelation. Though the blood levels do reduce following amalgam removal, the problem is the organs start dumping their mercury and this can be apparently anytime after amalgams are all gone. For some it's around the 6 month mark. For me? It took about one year and a half and all hell broke loose.

No doubt, as a lurker/reader, you know alot of our stories already. As you would likely know, I recommend the Andrew Hall Cutler protocol for chelating mercury because of it's safety, effectiveness and of course, personal experience that I was able to gain from it. I did try many methods, or chelating agents in different ways, but his seemed to make the most sense and again, was the only one I could tolerate.

I would recommend, if you cannot get hold of DMSA or don't want to (which lowers the blood levels) and you're ready to start chelating organ/brain mercury (as long as you're 3 months post amalgam removal), then ALA (alpha lipoic acid) would probably be the way to go. You can use it WITH DMSA, as it can make it more comfortable and you'll likely chelate even more mercury, but it's not absolutely necessary. You can use ALA alone and chelate your organs/brain of mercury. Lipoic acid should be pretty easy to get hold of and it's alot cheaper than DMSA.

It's recommended by Cutler to use it every 3 hours around the clock to keep the blood levels even. if the blood levels rise or drop dramatically, the movement of mercury becomes unpredictable and risky. Thereby enabling mercury to wind up in possibly worse areas (brain being one). Keeping it steady, allows for even movement of mercury as it's being removed out of the body. STarting dose? This can vary, depending on what a person can handle. Probably around 12.5 mg - 25 mg maybe a good dose to start or even lower if one finds these doses uncomfortable at first.

You can extend it to every 4 hours during the night if it makes it easier and you get more sleep, but it's generally recommended to keep to every 3 for daylight hours at least.

Do this for about 3 days straight (or more if you wish). Then take a break for about 3 days (or more if needed) and repeat this cycle over and over for months until you get well. Even if you do FEEL well in time, keep chelating for another few months or more to make sure. Because apparently there can come a time when ALA can keep a person feeling well as it's grabbing the mercury before it gets a chance to build up. If there is enough remaining mercury and you quit too soon? You'll feel the effects again. Plus, future problems can also happened with organs still burdened by mercury which can then be difficult to heal from, even impossible as the body is caught in a cycle of trying to cope with the existing toxicity which it maybe now less efficient at dealing with and detoxing from. The mercury in turn makes it difficult to cope and recover from other things that may have come onboard - viruses/infections etc.

I know what you mean about intolerance to exercise. The fatigue with some of these conditions is absolutely chronic. I try, with the help of the diet, to do some walking on my treadmill, but never 2 days in a row. I always have a rest day (or more days) inbetween. This does help things to a point because it gets the circulation going and helps me sweat a bit and basically helps my body to more efficiently eliminate some toxins that seem to get trapped (in fat etc).

If you have candida badly enough, you'll need to eliminate sugar and high carbs - even a certain amount can be enough to feed yeast and/or keep existing yeast levels going. I had to go cold turkey in order to start starving it out and stay on it to keep symptoms easier and my health better.

antioxidants/minerals are helpful support also.

But no doubt you will find what feels best for you, as we're all individuals and no one size fits all as they say. I'm wishing you all the best in your healing from this diabolical toxin!

I am currently taking oral DMSA and ALA together. I've been doing so for over a month. I do take antioxidants in tea form(green tea, cranberry tea, ect.) and it does seem to help detox. I have been pretty good on the diet but i slipped up on thanksgiving and had apple pie..but i do eat fruits and now that i think about it i do eat carbs. I find that using cayenne pepper helps kill off candida well tho. I feel as tho candida is a symptom of mercury and a bad immune system so not to try and cure the candida but to worry more about mercury because once that is gone the candida will lessen. But the diet does help one feel better as it is good too eat junk food anyway. I've tried hydrogen peroxide therapy for candida and it helped with my energy levels as im sure it killed off some candida and other pathogens but because mercury is still present in my system i still need to worry about detoxing that. At least thats my approach.

As far as exercising goes, its hard for me to walk up the stairs without being out of breath so i doubt i can do treadmills or anything like that yet. I also have low testosterone, cortisol, adrenal and other hormonal imbalances which i believe has caused imsomnia for me. My internal clock is messed up. Been like this for some time..nothing has helped except chamomile tea but if i go to sleep early i cant sleep for long..anyway around this??

Hello,

Thank you.. I have candida too... it os horrible.. I will try ALPHA LIPOIC ACID very soon to detox my body. I am looking forward to it. Finally i will become mercury free.. WOOHOOOO.. Lets celebrate our detox.. We are the only ones who understand how toxic mercury is and we will be free and healthy soon!!!

NO doctors, no psychiatrists, no psychologists just vibrant health WOOHOOOO...

i hear ya findthetruth.

has anyone else feel like they've lost touch with reality?? At times i feel like a zombie..like im living in 3rd person in some way..sounds crazy but thats how i feel sometimes..like nothing is real. its gotten better over the months but its just not a good feeling to have

yes me... yes everything seems unreal.. a horrible feeling but i hear if the toxins are gone the brain fog lifts...

Very same problems that I am having.

Here is what I'm doing.

I'm detoxing with DMSA (for mercury).

I take GABA, Melatonin, and Calcium w/Magnesium ("Skeletal Strength") before bed every night and this has helped tremendously with sleeping.

Here is some in-depth information about my personal situation in case it helps...

http://urlbam.com/ha/M003P

That's great that you're having those teas. Anything like this will be sure to help you. Lemon juice in warm water can too (and the addition of some natural organic ocean sea salt - 1/4 teaspoon or so).

Can I ask what protocol you're using with the ALA and DMSA and what doses of each out of curiosity? And do you notice symptoms when you are using either/both? Symptoms alone are a good sign of present metals/mercury.

Yeah, candida is a symptom of a deeper problem, you're totally right. But, it should be addressed in the meantime if there is a serious problem with it and it's interferring with a person's ability to function and have energy and do much in life. Unless a person doesn't find it's a big issue. I find I cannot function properly at all after cheating on the diet. And that's the end of me being able to walk on a treadmill. I just can't do it, nor can I chelate properly.

If however, I adhere to the strict diet for long enough? I find energy levels improve and other symptoms also do. So I'm able to do more and I think my body is more efficient at dealing with toxins and other issues going on. It's not the cure, but it can be a lifesaver.

You can treat candida whilst you deal with the mercury if it winds up helping you enough. anything to make life easier! It also takes more stress of your already burdened immunity, gut/liver, hormones. Mercury poisoning can take months or even years to improve from. So in the meantime, treating candida maybe essential to functioning better.

I rely souly on the diet and that does work, as long as it's stuck to. Antifungals do not do much unless diet is already in place and the yeast is weakened and lessened. Even then, it's more an aid. Because yeast will return if other things haven't been addressed (and that includes the diet). Mercury will always be a stumbling block to a cure, but these things will still help.

Stay away from coffee and other stimulating drinks if you can. They can make candida worse, and also stresses the adrenal glands and in the end, creates more exhaustion than before. I seem to be ok with plain black tea, though I don't have it very strong. Even then, I use herbal teas too.



I'm sorry to hear this. I have had the same. Definitely don't push yourself if you simply cannot do it. Your body clearly has more than enough burdens robbing you of energy. But if you can manage a walk on the flat level? That's great. But only if you can.

Along with diet and chelation, I'd recommend supporting your adrenals with supplements too if you're able to get any of them.

I was sent this article in my email and maybe it'll be helpful to you:



Enough protein and fats - eggs, meat, butter, etc are helpful too. They help protect and build up. With the reduction or elimination of high carbs in fruit/grain and high carb veg like corn/potatoes/carrots/peas/beans etc. It sounds extreme, but for those who are really suffering badly enough with candida because of a poisoned/lowered immunity, sometimes desperate needs call for desperate measures. Some people can handle a certain amount of high carbs and still make good progress, just eliminating sugar/gluten products/grains/yeast can make significant improvements in some. That can be a good place to start. If that doesn't work? Then removing fruits/grains/high carb vegetables may make the difference.

Also, you may find the addition of iodine helpful for the thyroid. Mercury is a big one to cause problems with the thyroid and block the action of iodine. Iodine can actually precipitate a detox! Because toxins like mercury displace these essential elements and are where they should be. If you replace them, they compete with the mercury for binding sites. That is why selenium, iodine, antioxidants etc can actually cause some detox symptoms. They are not chelating agents, but they can displace a certain amount of metals apparently and I can attest to that by past reactions of metal movement.

thanks Russ..i appreciate it

Bex, my protocol consist of chlorella, cilantro, chlorophyll, CO Enzyme Q-10, DHEA, and some other vitamins and minerals. It was one given to me by one of the better Dr's in the area named Dr. Ali. The dosage of DMSA is 100mg and Lipoic Acid is actually 100mg(very high) but only twice a week(weekends only). It does not make me feel bad or more sick. I also take a high dose of vitamin C here and there..its the only thing that helps me with my constipation and gives me a boost at times. Now that I think about it, candida is a problem I've had for a very long time..even before i started feeling toxic..i remember my tongue always being white and always tasted like yeast IMO. So i think the mercury is what is really bothering me because while test show my gut has candida in it, I do recover after cheating the diet. I may get a slight headache and feel a bit fatigued right after but i recover in about 20 min usually.

Thanks for the information too. I maybe will start using iodine..i've seen a bottle of it in my house somewhere b4 lol Is there any side effects with that do you know? Just curious

Sure. Let us know how it goes.

Trujerz,

Mercury is easily moved into the brain and other areas when it's mobilised, as you'd know. The effects may not necessarily show themselves immediately. Whether one is using strong mobilising agents like chlorella/sulfur products etc and/or by using good strong chelating agents like DMSA and ALA on a protocol that does not keep a constant/even level of the chelating agents in the blood stream. The movement of mercury as a result of either/both becomes a much greater risk.

If either DMSA and/or ALA are not taken every 3 - 4 hours around the clock (to keep an even level of the chelator in the blood stream), but rather taken other ways, the level of these chelating agents will spike up when you take a dose, but if it is not followed up by 3-4 hourly doses, the levels of the chelator will drop again. The movement of the mercury then becomes unpredictable/sporadic and this is where the risk of moving mercury into the brain/nervous sytem becomes a reality. There is always a risk of redistibrution, but the 3-4 hourly dosage reduces this substantially.

I know there are some great physicians out there who believe in mercury and are well qualified and top quality and are wanting to detox their patients with various protocols, but plenty of people have been injured by a variety of them and I've met a number over the years on forums.

Some maybe more tolerant than others. Yes, not one size fits all, I am aware of that and I am not trying to be dogmatic. I may sound it, but I'm only saying this out of care! I just don't want to see you get hurt. You maybe tolerating it just fine, but when talking about the movement of mercury, things can so easily be made worse long term if they are not done correctly in the meantime. Again, the impact may not always be apparent at the time.

However, I am not here to dictate. I'm just here to give an opinion and some advice, however unqualified I am. But believe me, it is not just personal experience, but also the testimonies that give the evidence for a protocol's safety, effectiveness and success and a man that appears to have gotten about the closest to a protocol that really does live up to what is said about it.

Please, if you would, I would recommend you read the book: "Amalgam Illness, Diagnosis and Treatment" highly by Andrew Hall Cutler. You may not wish to switch from the protocol/products you are already on, and that is your decision, but I would still advise reading this as a great way to educate oneself on mercury poisoning, what it does, how it works, where it goes, what to take for it and how to remove it, etc. It goes into everything! Hormones and how to help problems in that area etc. I found this book a great comfort and source of information to me. I also found Hal Huggins "It's all in your head" to be a great one too, which I'd recommend.

Cutler's book was a great avenue for me to begin to understand the problems I was having and the terrible side effects of the chelating protocols I had been on. It was a way to begin chelating safely and effectively finally, after being messed around badly by other protocols that were given to me by other doctors/health professionals.



No problem. Side effects can occur. Detoxification can happen due to the addition of iodine that may displace particular toxins/metals/chemicals, which can cause symptoms and I can attest to that! If you take too much (particularly too soon), you can "overstimulate", especially if you have been deficient for sometime and this may result in feeling hyper with your heart racing. If this happens, you maybe going too much, too fast.

So if you wish to try it? I'd start small and slow. But certainly, support your adrenals too. Both are really important as you'd know.

Apparently licorice (sugar free) is a helpful product too for adrenals. You might even be able to get it as a herbal tea.

I left the forum because I got better.

I would say there are too many stickies at the top of the forum front page. I count 27 stickies at the top of the “amalgam fillings / mercury poisoning” page….thats pointless.

I would criticise the forum because there are too many protocols and no one knows who is doing which. Some of the recommendation people give are just crazy. After a while I needed to be away from that.

Talking about chemtrails, aliens, UFo’s on the mercury forum scares normal people away. I know many people think this is normal…..but…its normal for you…it just freaks out newbies.

The site is a bit slow getting into sometimes.

There now extra forums which must confuse people. Why are there 4 forums. And this main forum has 50plus different threads.

I can’t believe you don’t have a Cutler specific forum. You sell the books Russ!

When I was here there where some amazing fight between members which scared many people away. Why was that allowed to happen? Because there are no moderators. Other forums have moderators to stop that rubbish. Moderators would also stop the wild and crazy advise some people give…or at least warn people of potential problems about the recommendation.

Just my 2 cents

I used to love it here….I made loads of good good friends here too…..

Bex, again thanks for your input. I've heard about the Cutler program many times. I've heard it has worked for some ppl and i heard it hasnt for others. I think i will stick with my protocol because i do feel i am headed in the right direction. The moment i feel like i did when i went to acupunture(which did nothing after several months) then i will probably look to switch and try another approach. I'm not dismissing Cutler..i've never tried it so how can I. but i know ppl who have been helped by Dr. Ali so i'll give it a try. I've only been on this protocol for about 2 months. Also, i know people who have done nothing and got better in 2 yrs after removing their fillings. Maybe they werent as poisoned as some of us were but i think the body detoxes mercury slowly on its own because i definitelt dont feel as bad as i did 2 yrs ago when i couldnt eat, stand up without getting dizzy, take hot showers, and when my blood sugar levels were horrible but at the same time, I'm far from being where i want to be. I will read the Cutler book anyway and see if it sheds some light on me and make my decision from there.

As for iodine. I will give it a try once i get my hands on some. My adrenals are fatigued for sure so hoepfully that would help out. Thanks again Bex..o yea i was wonder what region are you from?? are you close to the tri state??just wondering if you dont mind

Sunshine, you say you got better. I know you've probably told ppl what you did to get there but I was wondering if you can tell me since i do not know. Would be nice..thanks

sunshine, how recover?

I need to get well soon. My doctor thinks i am psychotic and/or bipolar and they want me to go in a psychiatric hospital..

and this ONLY because i sasi my fillings are making me sick and i also told them about the DAVID ICKE stuff. Now they believe i have delusions.

Hi Sunshine, (((( Smiles ))))

I remember you as you were probably the first long ago to welcome me to the board..
Thanks for that.
The people who do visit this board the numbers has increased alot and also lots more people have registered here.
plus, the other forums weither about UFO's, Chemtrails may be of interest to some people who come here and I think the variety is kind of nice to have.
Some people who weren't interested before may become interested.
But weither the information on theses things in sticky posts up above cause some people to become interested and want to learn more or some ignore it or if it drives some away.
Not sure the status on that.
But it could..
But it could also be of interest at the same time..
It depends on how one views it..
Not sure.
I'm not usually on this forum much we all have our preferences.
And glad you are doing much better and made many good friends here.
Plus the past fighting which I might have seen some of, not sure..
but things seem to have calmed down somewhat more now.
I read that it was really bad at one time.
But as with lots of message boards..
With many different opinions and things which may have helped one person but not another..
There's usually a disclamier that the material on this board is presented for support and educational purposes entertainment ect..
And is not intended to subsitute medical, psychological ect treatment in individual cases.
And other words to that effect as it happens alot the different views of whats helpful on message boards.
But the site is a bit slow getting into at times.
And this board has improved in look ect... from how it looked before.
But a Cutler protical specific forum.
I think he posted here at one time...
Maybe set up a forum for that and he may come back.??
Then people can see the differences in proticals for themselves.
It would be up to Russ though he does the work it's his board.
Glad to see your doing better... (((( Smiles ))))

You're welcome.

That's cool Trujerz. If you are comfortable with the products and protocol you are already on, then that maybe the avenue you wish to take and remain on. You may change your mind later, you may not. I have tried many things over the years with mercury and sometimes it's a matter of trial and error and a certain amount of risk with experimentation is sometimes the only way we can find something that works for us.

Sounds like this doc has indeed had success with his patients on the prescribed protocol.

I think I am one of the more sensitive/poisoned individuals out there, which would account for my past bizzare and extreme reactions upon movement of mercury and the major difficulty with excreting it properly. Awful crying/screaming and salivating bouts were my body's reaction to mobilising it. I couldn't honestly tolerate any protocol given, apart from Cutler's. Much to the frustration of any professional dealing with me

Yeah, I've heard of people slowly getting better too even after amalgam removal alone! I think these are the individuals that may not have significant organ burden of mercury. If they improve from amalgam removal alone and sustain that improvement? They were probably far less poisoned and simply removing amalgams allowed to the blood/tissue levels of mercury to reduce over time. It's the ones with years of organ toxicity who appear to require long term chelation with agents that are able to detox the organs/brain. I guess that too depends upon how extensive it is. The brain/organs do not detoxify efficiently if left alone apparently. Seems to require the help of a chelating agent that can cross the blood brain barrier.

I'm glad to hear you have already noticed some improvements over time! So keep up the extra detox if it's helping you elminate even more of this toxic garbage.

Yeah, if you can afford it? Both the Cutler book and the Hal Huggins one I mentioned are really good additions for anybody's "mercury toxicity library". Both offer some very helpful advice. Though both may not agree on how to detox the body of mercury as such, they're very knowledgeable men in my opinion.



I hope it might have some benefits for you.

Check out these:

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Liodine.htm
http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Liodine2.htm

I don't mind you asking at all. I am from New Zealand.
New Zealand is deep in the south pacific, off the coast of Australia (next to Australia). I live at the bottom of the North Island (capital city Wellington).

Sunshine,

I basically agree with you. I will probably move the videos and sticky posts to another area to make things cleaner.

Also, I used to let people work out their own problems. I have since learned that most people are not capable of that. That is strange to me, but true nonetheless.

I would not allow that kind of fighting to happen anymore.

Thanks for the input.

Hi Lynnmn.....((((Big Smiles for you young lady))))

Sure I remember welcoming you here.....Its a big responsibility to take on and i hope you have been doing the same in my absence!

I hope you are better, are you?

Hi there Russ....Long time no speak...

I hope the two of you are both well.

Hi Bex

Hi Trujerz and Findthetruth.

If your doctors think you are psychotic then you should not see them ever again because they will just lock you away and then you will be ultra-screwed and not even have the choice/chance to ever get better again. There is no point talking to your doctors about mercury, they do not believe and they do not understand…..you are wasting your time with them. The doctors will never in a million years believe you…....

How did I get better? My story is long, too long for here because I had to do so many things to get better. I have written my story and I’m in the process of trying to put in print…if& when that happens I will have something for you to read.

I got better because I educated myself about all things health. 3 years ago I knew nothing about nothing. Bex will tell you, she introduced me to this site and to the Cutler Protocol, and back then I really did not know anything about my health, how to get better, nor what was expected of me to be healthy. I was not even aware of alternative healthcare existed and that I could learn about and take control of my health for myself. Before that I just followed doctors orders…..and that got me to a very bad and very low hole.

So I ditched the doctors and decided they had done such a terrible job on me, bcoz I was so wildly sick, that they could not be trusted and that I was gonna take control myself of my health. I didn’t know what, where, who or how…but I knew my doctors where hurting me even more….so I taught myself how to look after myself and what was expected of me to look after my body. I never saw the doctors again.

It was very hard work, especially as my brain was all muddled up from the brainfog, but every book I read, ever weblink I followed, every hour I slaved away was massively worth it…..because eventually I understood and once I understood what the problems were…I could then make choices about what to do about them. I had a rule, that if I did not fully understand it, I did not do it. I just kept reading and researching until I did understand…….even if it took me reading 5 books….. and when I understood I made a calculated choice on what to do about it. I had to have the rule because so many of the health regaining things recommended to me where making me much much worse. Pain is a powerful teacher!

I cleaned up my diet, to the extreme.
I chelated using the Cutler protocol.
I did every herbal cleanse I could find and I kept doing them repeatedly. Week in, week out, year in, year out….herbal cleanse after herbal cleanse, interspersed with lots of Cutler style Chelation.

Took 3 years. 3 years from deaths door to fit and healthy again.

First year I just did things willy-nilly. Did many things wrong.
By the second year I figured out what I was supposed to be doing….and did everything I could, one at a time, all the time.
Third year I was just happy to be mostly better…..and kept on doing the same things, month by month all the time cleansing using herbs and Chelation.

Sorting out the adrenals and thyroids was majorly hard work….but I just did what most people think is impossible and came off my thyroid supplements…..that’s not supposed to happen. Thyroid supplements are supposed to be for life!

Everything is difficult and tricky to understand at first, especially when we are sick and confused…..so choose one subject and stick to and keep learning about it: when you understand it, do something about it…and then move on the next subject and do the same.

You have plenty of choice on what to look into!…….I found I had everything wrong with me and that all the different herbal cleanses helped me, all in their own special way.

I had congested: digestive tract, liver, kidneys, lungs, skin, every food allergy under the sun, multiple chemical intolerances, mercury problems, copper problems, adrenal fatigue, thyroid fatigue…..the list was endless as every part of me was screwed…..but now I seem to be working pretty good. Still have a few minor things to sort out……….but this is no different to all the normal healthy people my age…..the difference is I know I have the problems and I know how to sort them.

Getting better takes a lot of time and effort, none of which your doctors can give you. The only person that truly gives a $hit about you is……………….you. So you must do it yourself and stop relying on your doctors. If they could have helped you…..they would have already and you would not be so sick……

I followed the Cutler protocol because I was mercury toxic and he explains what’s wrong and he explains what needs doing in order to get better. He enabled me to understand and he enabled me to take control of my health myself ……for me that was worth its weight in gold and was exactly what I needed to motive myself to help myself. I could take care of myself because he explained how to.

Anyway…I’m rambling…….nothing changes....LOL;-)

Chelation was a small part. Important part, but the herbal cleanses was also a gigantic help. Adrenals and thyroids was mega important…..essential…..millions of things needed doing when you have been poisoned by mercury……..tell me what you specifically what to check out and i can point you in the right direction......

I promise you...its great on the otherside.....

thanks for responding. that was a nice story..one that makes me think recovering is possible. i just want to know more about the herbal cleanses. what exactly did the herbal cleansing do? what did it work on mostly? and if you can, what herbal cleanses did you use? i will like to start one myself

and what helped boost the adrenals and thyroid? that would be a good start for me because i know they are fatigued and arent working up to par..thanks again

Hi Sunshine

Great to hear from you and to hear you are doing so well!

Sunshine pls descriebe improvements...

Hi Sunshine, ((( Smiles )))

I'm doing pretty good.
My worst problem at one time was hyperacusis and tinnitus and that both has calmed down alot.
Of course my children still have autism but one is high functioning has improve alot but the other one is a challenge there must be something else some other factor thats holding her back..
Not sure..
Her autism has always been somewhat different then her sisters.
Her sister was more tuned out acting deaf bouncing toys and objects in rhythm daily really into the phone book flipping the pages of it everyday for hours, limited speech ect..
The other one was a head banger, self abusive, flicking fingers, screaming alot, aggressive, limited speech, loves water alot ADHD like regressive autism ect..
She has improved somewhat and alot in some of her symptoms but not totally alot..
Just a shot in the dark but I think we might just test her for LKS just to rule it out.
Though I believe all of it's most likely mercury related anyway.
But there may be something more if there is another factor involved not sure.
But we won't give up and we take what we can get.
We always have hope.
It's not as bad as all that..
As long as my H stays away..

But I totally agree with this..
In some cases with medical doctors that true!
They will never change their minds.
It's a waste of breath with them.



Glad to see you back.. (((( Smiles ))))

Dairy allergy – gone
Wheat allergy – gone
Gluten allergy - gone
Soya allergy – gone
Nightshade allergy – gone
Passive smoking allergy – gone
All processed food allergy – gone
Sulphur food problem – gone
Fruit allergy – gone
Sugar problem/hypoglycaemia – gone
Chronic heartburn – gone.
Constipated – gone
Bloating – gone
Dry skin – gone
Sleeping badly – gone
Libido – back to normal
Multiple chemical sensitivities – gone
Chronic back problems and chronic back pain for 10 years – gone.
Muscle weakness – gone. (This was an utter nightmare)
Short term memory problems – gone.
Brain fog – gone
Depression – gone
Tinnitus – gone
Angry – gone
Chronic fatigue – gone.
Grumpy – mostly gone!

Some of these things are gone because of the supplements I still take, so you could argue that some of them are not “gone” gone….but whatever and however we think about my progress……… I am a zillion times better than I was….

All in all my life is totally back on track now. I no longer need to focus so intensely on my health, I am no longer in constant pain and brain fog has lifted and I am back to being a normal bloke again. I would say my current health status is that of a normal 40 year old city bloke….which is not saying that much….the difference is I know what’s wrong and I know how to put it right. The revolving system of chelation and cleansing going on all the time is easy and I don’t have to think too much about them now….Life is totally back to normal now.

Your questions would take up many many pages and to be honest with you…..i could write it all up for you ……..but until you actually investigate it yourself….u probably will not believe me….and anyway……others have already written it up and all you have to do is dedicate the time to reading it up. The links I give below will keep you plenty busy…..

Herbal cleanse: a collection of herbs that target one organ or problem. The herbs clean out the target organ, or maybe kill the bacteria and help clean out/detox those parts of you. Once your organ is cleaned up it is then free to work correctly. For example there is collect of herbs called a Bowel Cleanse that goes into your digestive tract, swell up to 50 times their normal size, and then sweep out any congested crap clogged up inside you. takes time, like 2-3 months, but works superbly. Same applies to liver and kidneys. As a general rule cleanses last 15 or 30 days. You should not do them together, nor chelate at the same time.

This is the correct order of cleansing:

1. Diet clean up and food education.
2. Bowel cleanse
3. Parasite cleanse (which can be done at the same time as the bowel cleanse)
4. Dental clean up (amalgams, root canals, nickel crowns, cavitations)
5. Kidney cleanse
6. Liver cleanse

You can do it in a different order but you will not get as good results. Notice Diet is top of the list…..you will not get better ever if your diet is full of refined foods.

Full herbal healing protocol details here: http://curezone.com/diseases/health.asp

I buy most of my herbs here: http://www.humaworm.com/index.html
I have done them all multiple times and I get better after each.
They have a very good support forum here: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=757

I suggest you read the Humaworm website top to bottom then move to the curezone forum and get reading…….that will take 1-2 hours. Those herbs are the foundation of me getting better. I have done 5 full body rounds of all the cleanses over the last 3 years. They all need doing, even if your doctors have convinced you that you don’t have problem X, Y & Z.

Adrenals and Thyroids is very difficult to get to grips with and there is no substitute for reading these books. They are written for laypeople like you and me:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Your-Thyroi...mp;s=books&qid=1260890420&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adrenal-Fat...mp;s=books&qid=1260890443&sr=1-1

To figure out if you have adrenal and/or thyroid problems…….follow instructions here and take your temp:

http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graph

as I said…..takes a lot of time and energy to figure all this out….but if you don’t have the time……who does?

Good luck dude

Hi Lynnmn.
Glad you getting better.
Kids: what a nightmare.
I feel for ya.
Do you chelate the kids?
Do you chelate yourself?

Sunshine...

How you do this, only cleansing????

I did everything.
Everything again and again.
Everything repeatedly and I did not quit doing, nor learning.

My life was totally screwed and I wanted it back……..

So I avoided all normal doctors and educated myself.
Everything I heard about I researched, read up about and when I understood…..i did it…..or if I disagreed with that protocol/idea/method…I did not do it…..but I did a LOT of different things. And the amazing thing was…everything helped in it’s own special way…..I discovered i had everything wrong with me. Some things helped a lot, some things only a little….but even only a little tells me lots of things about myself…like whats ok and whats in trouble.

I took no breaks and for 3 years I have been repeatedly chelating, cleansing and treating my thyroids and adrenals, along with lots of other helpful health regaining activities that I found out about.

I did each thing individually so I could tell if it worked or not and what the effects each thing had on me. I did many things wrong at first, not least amalgam removal with no protection…but after a while I “got it” and learnt enough and stuck to the program…..and never stopped going for it.

When you have been so totally and utterly f-cked up like I was….every inch I regained of my health was like a glorious victory.

But…cleansing with herbs was the main reason. Chelation helped. Diet clean up was essential. Thyroid and adrenal helped massively.
Dry skin brushing, oil pulling, oil massage (to name a few) – I did these every morning for 1.5 years…..if you do them everyday for that long they going from little helps, to giant boosts in help.
I have done over 100 detox baths.

If you read the links I put up there and keep thinking of all the problems I solved…..that should keep you motivated…….but that’s just the tip of the iceberg……all the answers are out there…….Every problem you have has been had a zillion times before, and out of those zillion times before some people got better…..and some of those that got better wrote it down for you to read and learn and take actions. If you keep reading you will figure it out.

Ask me what you want to investigate and I can recommend books about any alternative health subject you can think of, that are understandable to laypeople like me and you. Medical textbooks are for doctors….we are not doctors and don’t understand the way they write….but there are lots of books written for the likes of you and me so that we can make educated choices for ourselves.

It is very satisfying solving your own problems….it makes the next problem you have to solve like a game or puzzle you gotta figure out….and the reward is your life back…..i found it took a long time but I tried trusting doctors with my health and that didn’t work.

Hi Sunshine, (((( Smiles )))))



I understand that concept..
Thats what I had to do to finally improve my hyperacusis and tinnitus.
Running to the doctors for tests ect was makeing me far worse till my condition just collapsed and I could hardly leave my bedroom..
It's like I had no tolerances left everything was just so awful but I'm like cured now.
Better..

Plus yes thy have been taking supplements going through chelation by a bio-medical doctor on the DAN list for years.
I have 8 metallic fillings still in my mouth and have not done IV or rectal chelation.
My mother went through IV chelation years for her heart plus had all her merc fillings taken out and at her regular doctors
they did testing and an exploratory thing recently and they said it looked good.
Her heart looked just fine.
Thats what she told me..
She use to be in bad shape too thats why she underwent IV treatments chelation for her heart.
Now it's her lungs though they have improved some on a breathing test and the doctor was surprised because her condition is not suppose to get any better.
This world can be so hard at times..
If we weren't all polluted and poisoned we probably all would be doing alot better then we are theses days.
I don't chelate but I do take elderberry, fish oil and other supplements..
I overcame the worst of T and H so anythings possible in this life but doesn't mean everything can be cured in this life.
But as you know she could have been born blind and deaf or in a wheelchair or paralized or a vegetable or not born at all.
It could have been worse and no I do not believe they were born this way they seemed like they were doing fine made all there milestones then things changed for the worst.
Wish I new back then what I know now but I didn't.
So here I am... ((((( Smiles ))))))

Great info and I'm glad to hear Sunshine has done it! Another success story!