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Started Threelac #55244
01/15/10 01:20 PM
01/15/10 01:20 PM
StuartUK  Offline OP
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Hi there all. Well i thought to myself if the primary cause of my illness isn't actually mercury but yeast then i'll try and get rid of the yeast so i've decided to try Threelac. I've heard so many conflicting stories on this product so i thought i'd give it a shot myself and will see how it goes. I've just taken the second days dosage(one packet) and i seem fine so far. No adverse reactions as yet. The taste is a lemon flavor and is quite pleasant.

As for mercury i'm taking 6.5 DMSA every four hours as it's all i can handle. I've tried ALA and the side effects are just too much. I feel i've gone back a year when i take that stuff and it makes me far less productive(i just sit around and zone out all day). I'll keep posting back with the Threelac progress.

Peace
Stuart

Re: Started Threelac [Re: StuartUK] #55266
01/15/10 10:21 PM
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TruJerz  Offline
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nice to hear you havent had any problem with the product. But I want to know how you know mercury is the primary cause of your problem? I have both heavy metal toxicity with mercury and lead and also candida overgrowth in the gut mainly. But i dont know how to tell what the main problem is. thanks

Re: Started Threelac [Re: TruJerz] #55268
01/16/10 05:58 AM
01/16/10 05:58 AM
Bex  Offline
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I too have a hard time trying to figure out which is causing the most symptoms.... I remember when I first treated candida, I was able to figure that out after a few weeks of a strict diet. Many symptoms were lessened and I felt a great improvement.

However, I was left with some stubborn symptoms that I now attribute to mainly mercury. Which was the ongoing tendency to isolate myself (shyness), difficulty with body temperature (going cold easily with blue nails). Unable to lose enough weight. I would remain somehow "solid" in appearance, though I lost a bit from the candida diet, so I was certainly better. Dilated pupils remained. And sometimes tremors/salivating etc.

Candida is more a symptom of something else going on in the body, that is creating a yeast imbalance. But it can become a condition/illness. But there is always a cause of candida. Whether it's chemical/metal toxicity, viral, hidden infection, a combination or whatever disturbance is going on in the body that is also suppressing the immune system and poisoning the body.

But treating yeast problems can help ALOT with symptoms and lessen toxicity and take a load of the immunity/gut/liver. Improving physical and mental symptoms. But it will not likely cure it, unless the problem creating candida in the first place has been addressed.

Though many of the symptoms maybe yeast related, the cause is another story.

Re: Started Threelac [Re: TruJerz] #55270
01/16/10 02:28 PM
01/16/10 02:28 PM
StuartUK  Offline OP
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It's just a conclusion i've come to. ALA just makes me feel like death and i'm down to 145lbs which is ridiculously low. As soon as i touch any carbs im salivating like crazy. So i've decided to use the biggest and most powerful anti candida products there are. My gut needs to heal so i can start absorbing nutrients and my PH is wacked out too. For me i think candida thing comes first.

Re: Started Threelac [Re: StuartUK] #55276
01/16/10 09:32 PM
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we all seem to have yeast problems on here. And the one thing we have in common is heavy metal toxicity. I think thats the cause of the candida overgrowth throughtout the body. Still isnt a bad idea to address the candida issue because it may help with symptoms as Bex said but I would still chelate/detox if I were you. What did you do for mercury StuartUK?

Re: Started Threelac [Re: StuartUK] #55278
01/17/10 12:37 AM
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It's just a conclusion i've come to. ALA just makes me feel like death and i'm down to 145lbs which is ridiculously low. As soon as i touch any carbs im salivating like crazy. So i've decided to use the biggest and most powerful anti candida products there are. My gut needs to heal so i can start absorbing nutrients and my PH is wacked out too. For me i think candida thing comes first.



It's a two edged sword. I note that the worse my candida is, the less I'm able to respond to chelation. To chelate efficiently, the liver and gut need to be in a better position to cope/eliminate. Yet, the worse my toxicity is, the worse the candida is.... frown


Re: Started Threelac [Re: Bex] #55279
01/17/10 02:11 AM
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TruJerz  Offline
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makes sense. I think a candida diet helps the whole detox process but it isnt needed. I dont have a strict diet like most people on here. I eat alot of fruit but I try to stay away from dairy and processed sugar..seems to help a bit

Re: Started Threelac [Re: TruJerz] #55355
01/21/10 12:09 AM
01/21/10 12:09 AM
StuartUK  Offline OP
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OK been on threelac for nearly a week now and i'm not sure if it's actually doing me any good. I don't feel particularly bad either. I do not get the lift though that i get with Formula SF722 for me thats the number one antifungal. So far i'm not sure whether i recommend threelac or not, it seems like a very expensive probiotic IMO.

Re: Started Threelac [Re: StuartUK] #55356
01/21/10 12:14 AM
01/21/10 12:14 AM
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Bex........ ellimination of the gut.... then start squatting!

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If you are going to do something totally right, you got to do it totally yourself!
Re: Started Threelac [Re: BluSky] #55357
01/21/10 12:21 AM
01/21/10 12:21 AM
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mercury ellimination first (as you all know, that's a whole chapter or ten in itself..)

liver... trigger lots of bile dumps with real fats like fatty wholemeats (hard to get these days), and easy to get... dairy butter (real butter)

then the gut and the intestines...... squatting (eastern ancient toilet posture)

1.2.3..... not nessecarily in that sequence or in sequence at all, but in combination..

smile


If you are going to do something totally right, you got to do it totally yourself!
Re: Started Threelac [Re: BluSky] #55359
01/21/10 12:33 AM
01/21/10 12:33 AM
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http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=55358&#Post55358

Check this out! smile

Thanks to Russ's videos i dug the net a little, btw.. Simoncini's website is GONE!
Go figure.... Maybe someone can find it in the web archives.. i didn't find anything there...

Just thought of poor Sandy that was a member of this board...
I didn't know her, but i know that she knew and did nearly anything possible, but still lost in the end....

This info is the link between candida and cancer, and thereof the cure.
It could come in handy one day for someone...

There is more on google.... save as much as PDF files as you can... one day it may be gone...


If you are going to do something totally right, you got to do it totally yourself!
Re: Started Threelac [Re: BluSky] #55361
01/21/10 02:17 AM
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Sean  Offline
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I used it and it nearly cured Candida for me in that time period, it is some great stuff Stuart.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: Started Threelac [Re: Sean] #55456
01/26/10 01:16 AM
01/26/10 01:16 AM
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"It's just a conclusion i've come to. ALA just makes me feel like death and i'm down to 145lbs which is ridiculously low. "

Stuart, have you done a parasite cleanse lately? The parasite cleanse herbs(wormwood, black walnut green hull extract, and cloves) are also very antifungal.
I just started a parasite cleanse, as I have not done one in quite a while, and I seem to be having plenty of problems with candida now.

Eating plenty of nuts and sunflower seeds is a good way to get calories and magnesium, as well as zinc. They are also a good source of proein. Pumpkin seeds are a very complete protein, and very high in magnesium, as well as being antiparasitic.
and vitamin e.

The mercury suppresses the immune system and causes candida to grow. Starting out low on DMSA is okay as long as you have a plan for raising the dosage. many stagnate at a very low dose of DMSA for a long time. You should also think about adding ALA again in a few months. Taking ALA together with DMSA gives much few symptoms than taking ALA alone. I have built up my chelation to 200 mg ALA and 66 mg DMSA every 3 hours.

ALA eliminates mercury mostly through the bowel, so ALA can cause candida to flare up. I guess the best thing is to get the candida under control, and to keep taking a potent olive leaf extract long term.

Last edited by JK98; 01/26/10 01:28 AM.
Re: Started Threelac [Re: JK98] #55462
01/27/10 12:40 AM
01/27/10 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JK98
"It's just a conclusion i've come to. ALA just makes me feel like death and i'm down to 145lbs which is ridiculously low. "

Stuart, have you done a parasite cleanse lately? The parasite cleanse herbs(wormwood, black walnut green hull extract, and cloves) are also very antifungal.
I just started a parasite cleanse, as I have not done one in quite a while, and I seem to be having plenty of problems with candida now.

Eating plenty of nuts and sunflower seeds is a good way to get calories and magnesium, as well as zinc. They are also a good source of proein. Pumpkin seeds are a very complete protein, and very high in magnesium, as well as being antiparasitic.
and vitamin e.

The mercury suppresses the immune system and causes candida to grow. Starting out low on DMSA is okay as long as you have a plan for raising the dosage. many stagnate at a very low dose of DMSA for a long time. You should also think about adding ALA again in a few months. Taking ALA together with DMSA gives much few symptoms than taking ALA alone. I have built up my chelation to 200 mg ALA and 66 mg DMSA every 3 hours.

ALA eliminates mercury mostly through the bowel, so ALA can cause candida to flare up. I guess the best thing is to get the candida under control, and to keep taking a potent olive leaf extract long term.
True, but if you are going to use something which eliminates it via the bowel then a colon cleanse or getting that matter out is a must, the dead parasites or yeast needs to come out and fast after it is dying. Poeople sleep on the fact a clean colon is a must! It is the cause of so man diseases and most don't even think about it.

Most people think about killing Candida or parasites but if that fecal matter is still in there for years then they will just come back and feed again!

Killing things is a must, but your organs must be functioning well form your liver to kidneys and colon. Just my take there.

Last edited by Sean; 01/27/10 12:41 AM.

In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: Started Threelac [Re: Sean] #55534
01/31/10 11:00 PM
01/31/10 11:00 PM
StuartUK  Offline OP
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Well i've given up on the threelac for the time being. I felt worse on it to be honest and i wasn't having as many BM's either. At the moment im eating raw garlic and that seems to be having a stronger effect. I know everyone is different but threelac didn't really help me at all.


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