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Is This Upsetting?
#60274
11/24/10 04:08 AM
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Re: Is This Upsetting?
[Re: ghostresearch]
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11/25/10 07:05 PM
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Anybody signing up and logging in who did not agree with her, would have their comments removed I'm sure. I didn't see anybody disagreeing with her. She's into misinformation propaganda and wants people to help her in her campaign against the truth getting out. Is she truly misinformed and ignorant, or is there some other motivation behind this? I think you're probably right Russ in what you said.
I've heard of some pretty bad results from flu shots. Thankfully my father quit getting them, after a persistant cough and ongoing nasal congestion would not go and he kept falling ill. Now he's back to normal again after stopping them, just as he was before he started them. Somebody at my Mum's work got a flu shot and became chronically sick. I'm hoping she's better now, but this was years ago. One young teen was a healthy boy, doing well, started getting flu shots. He's now all but a complete invalid. I think the last straw was after his third shot and that was the finish of him as far as health goes. His Mum is devastated. My brother refuses to get them after seeing some of the results in others.
Flu kills pregnant women? Um, I've YET to see it happen! I've known a number of people who have contracted flu during pregnancy and none of them have died or even had serious complications. One had a pretty serious flu bug though and that was tough on her, and I caught it, so I know how bad it was, but she got through it and gave birth to a very healthy boy.
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Re: Is This Upsetting?
[Re: Bex]
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11/25/10 08:56 PM
11/25/10 08:56 PM
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People are idiots and will never wake up spite it being right in front of your eyes. Humans are and always will be dumb media driven, whatever is on the news or doctor says they adpot it and live that way, it's truth to them.
Defend them after all that has been done to people like us with Mercury poisoning? I guess we went though it and learned about it from that, these people are just sheep and think all is well with vaccines and the wworld lol.
I know idiots who get these and justify it and question my saying I won't get it, but I tell them quick do what you want and live your life. I never get sick knock on wood so I can make them look stupid for saying I should get one, just shove my health in their face.
What is really funny there is some idiot saying Vaccines save lives lol, oh really your immune system or Garlic per se could not do more and is actually healthy for you? What is the side effects of these things and how do they increase your health?
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Re: Is This Upsetting?
[Re: Lynnmn]
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01/27/11 02:36 PM
01/27/11 02:36 PM
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I always find it quite disturbing when people do this kind of propaganda. I have four kids. two were vaccinated up to MMR. I totally believed the docs glossy leaflet and at that stage in my life never questioned the validity of the doc's claims. However when i told him i did not want the mmr for my second child as she had already had measles, he done his job and convinced me that all 'good' parents vaccinate so i went ahead. for the next year my daughter became some kind of ghost. She would always complain of stomach problems, would lie for hours (all day sometimes) staring at nothing. had OCD to the max (had to have a specific blanket, put dead straight over her). would just lie on the couch, twisting her hair, not talking or looking at anyone. On hte rare occasion that she got up and played she would take her little toys (she insisted on little plastic toys) and line them all up, lines and lines of dead straight toys across the living room floor. she had been talking like a normal 18mth old and suddenly stopped. wouldnt even say mama. i went back and forth to the docs shouting at him to do something. she had so many tests, all came back normal. in the end he just used to send me home in tears. so i took my daughters life in my own hands. researched, changed her diet, changed our lives and never fell for the doc's rubbish on vaccines again. i did research into vaccines and felt so guilty for giving them to the first two, i even found out that in 1996 when i had my second one vaccinated with the mmr, they were threatening with a 'measles epidemic' all because they had so much of the mmr in storage that was about to go out of date, so they wanted to use it up before they lost their profit!!! my child was one of those who got the 'almost up' vaccines. Thankfully they have not had any since then, and my youngest two are clean. no antibiotics, no vaccines, good organic foods. they all got mercury inutero but i am seeing no obvious effects. Although my second daughter, is still OCD and would be diagnosed with bipolar if i took her to a docs. We handle it all naturally, and she knows her issues and has been using garlic and vit c and i will be doing low dose chelation on them all when i start. I get sooooo mad when i read or hear about this kind of thing. this person is a propaganda tool. has no idea of the suffering of parents whose children develop autism or SIDs from vaccines. Or just doesnt care. money numbs the conscience. I find this woman and her commenters as obnoxious as most of the medical proffession that i have to deal with occassionally. I took my son to the hospital after he choked on his own vomit. he was only 6wks old. his breathing was laboured and we took him to get checked up, make sure he had no vomit in his airway. At the hospital we explained clearly what happened, why we were there. The paed came and checked him over, listened to his lungs, said they were fine. He had done a huge vomit just before she came and that cleared him off and he had been fine since. the topic came to vaccinations, the usual tete tet. the frowns, the 'got to be a good parent and good citizan' patter. i have learnt to be polite, smile and say 'thanks, but no thanks'. we were sent home. Five weeks later the health visitor turns up. Accuses me of negligent parenting. i was like 'whoa, what you talking about' she shows me the copy of the report sent to her by the paed. it said ''he has acute gastroenteritis, parent must take to GP for follow up and has refused vaccinations'. i was like, 'o my God!!!!!!!' I remained calm, (not easy for a mercury toxic person,,,,,with an excuse to rage,ha ha ha) explained what had happened, explained clearly why i will not be vaccinating and waited for her response. she said 'oh, well i can see your making an informed choice, so as long as your doing that then i wont question it'......no mention that i was being lied against, that this slip of paper will remain in my son's records to be perused by every doctor i ever have the misfortune to encounter. but, i guess this is the way of the society we live in. hardest thing for me is when i have new nephews/nieces born and my family all run to the vaccine clinic. no amount of evidence convinces them otherwise. Even the fact that my kids are healthier than theirs does not make them wonder about it. but the propaganda is strong. in the uk now we have hardcore drilling for swine flu every newspaper or news report is accompanied by an image of someone getting a jab. psychology of advertising at its worst. so many dead and dying, etc etc etc. and nowhere do we see anyone able to give real 'informed consent', pharmaceuticals got to make their money. sorry for the long response, this subject really gets me going, cos its the innocent kids who are being poisoned and damaged. and i just cannot fathom how a parent can be sooooo gullible that even after clear evidence is given to them they still go and get the vaccine done. one doc told me i was putting my son at risk of encephalitis by not vaccinating. i told her the risk of encephalitis was higher for the vaccine than for the illness, and there was also the fact that he had to catch the illness first before even being exposed to that risk, there was a 50/50 chance of not getting the illness. but if he is vaccinated he is definitely exposed to the risk. she looked at me, and said , 'but the risk of encephalitis from the illness is still there', i just smiled and said 'well its all a risk then isnt it,' and remained quiet. I have found that is best. sorry i am rambling again.
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