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Hello all,

Can anybody please tell me if its safe to use the epsom salts baths and detox foot patches before amalgam removal??
Has anyone ever had any success with these in the past? (felt better after using them).

Scared they make my symptoms worse then they are now, (can they?) (has this happened to any of you) dont think i could survive that.

Thanks in advance!

I don't know about the foot patches but I personally use the epsom salt baths if I feel more sick/rundown that usual. But I don't do it more than once a week or every other week. Then wash and soap off under the shower after to remove any toxins that eeked out. I don't know if I shouldn't do this or not, but it has not seemed to make me sicker but feel better for a bit.

I am unfamiliar with the foot patches, but epsom salts are just magnesium sulfate and yes they are great! This is a good cheap way to get a boost of mg especially to your muscles and I have read that this is also a good way to detox.

I used about 18 foot patches some months ago, and felt wonderful for a few days, then felt ill (not serious) a few days after I quit using them (because of lack of funds to buy more.) I was told by someone in the know that the patches stirred something up, which accounted for the wonderful feeling of well-being, mental & physical .

So, it was at that point I began to feel poorly, then stabilized at my moderately good but not perfect health.

I intend to restart the patches and stick with it. Will report back! I can't believe how good I felt for a little while; this feeling actually started after I woke up in the middle of the night, startled awake by a huge twinge in the area of my liver.

I would be interested in knowing how the patches work in the long-term. Please keep us posted.

Thanks!

Hi TGoss,

I saw a new naturopath yesterday....She is supposed to be one of the best...My initial app't was 4 hours long(very thorough)...And she tests the body to see what it needs and what is going on.....She gave me a bunch of stuff to heal...and foot patches are included..I guess my body told her that I would benefit from them...So I'm starting them next week(2times week)...I'll let you know how I feel.....Also, Don't worry about the info on the hepar sulph...she said I shouldn't take that right now...it is too strong for my body...I'm on other remedies instead....Thanks Sandra P <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

well, I used my first foot patch last night ...and the upper part was black/sludge...the bottom was still white...So this means my liver was draining,...and my kidneys must be ok because there was no black on the patch....I'm going to do another one tonight...so maybe more will come out....Sandra P

Sandra - can you tell us which brand of detox foot pads you are using? There are so many on Google, and I'm sure some are better than others. Thanks.

Having used the patches, also, and having discussed this with others, it would seem that the reason part of the patch remains white is that the powder inside shifts around during the night as you move around and doesn't have a chance to do its work evenly over the bottom of the foot. I heard that Bodypurenow has improved its patch so that this happens less, but I am just repeating what I have heard. If you are able, you might want to have your used patches tested by someone who specializes in this.

I haven't done it (because I can't afford to waste a patch in this way) but apparently if you dip an unused patch in clean water, it will turn dark, also. Any toxins extracted from your body are dissolved within that dark mass, rather than making up the totality of the black stuff you see there. I can't see how your patch will ever be completely white, as some sellers claim, when you achieve some kind of total "purity". Yah, sure - after you spend $900 on their patches.

I used patches last summer and felt very good for awhile, and will continue to use them when the money appears for me to do so. I used Kinotakara, and they were good, but overpriced (sold by Multi Level Marketing).

I have also heard that the best ones (Kinotakara is one) are made in Japan (as opposed to Korea) but I realize that this may be a generalization. They say the main thing to look for is not a huge quantity of ingredients, but, rather, the quality of the Wood Vinegar, which is the most important component of the patch. I am going to try Asunaro brand, as theirs apparently has a high quality wood vinegar.

So, I hope that some of this has been helpful to those of you who are using or contemplating the use of the patch.

Mine are from acuped....they are from japan and have all natural ingredients..and not a whole bunch....My naturopath prescribed them...she said they were excellent....the second night...I put them in a different spot on my foot...and the results were different..they stick on really tightly and evenly...so I hope they are working...mine get dark and very sludge like....do yours get sludge like???...they cost $30 for 12 Canadian

Hello, Sandra. Yes, my pads got sticky & sludgy. I used them for only a couple of weeks. I have recently ordered some Asunaro brand and after exchange etc. etc. the cost came out to $2.26 in Canadian dollars. So, that is almost the same as what you paid for Acupeds.

The Kinotakara cost me $5.00 each!!! Too much! No wonder I almost went bankrupt last summer. A person who used to sell them but now sells some other brand admitted to me that he thought that Kinotakara is a particularly good brand, but, nevertheless, overpriced. So, there you have it. Good luck with your health challenges! - Carla.

Hi, I'm back. I read an intersting article some time back by Helke Ferrie - not sure of spelling - where she detoxed herself of some dreadful pesticides or something, and I recall her advising to take a mineral supplement.

what type of mineral supplement Carla?? I saw this awesome naturopath...that tests the whole body(took 4 hours)i'm on chlorella,ala,garlic,vitc...barley greens,selenium,calc/mag,multi vit...2 types of homeopathic liquids(unda 44,258)..to drain my liver/kidneys...and 4 types of homeopathic globules.....merc.sol,silica,camphor,thiju...on different days of the week...for immune support...i guess i have a lingering virus...which because of the metals, my body can't fight off....plus ribes nigrum(for adreanl glands) to support cns..and enzymes......and the foot pads...sounds like a lot....but I have only been on these for 1 week...and I feel major changes already....Plus I know they are good for me, because she tested them all on my body, and it is what my body needs....She has certain energy machines to test everything...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Instead of guessing and trying a whole bunch of stuff(and spending a lot of money)..I would recommend finding a good naturopath who can test for everything that your body needs...I was taking vitb, fish oils, etc...and my body tested negative for these..I did not need them....I was wasting time and money....The app't cost $200.00 for 4 hours...it was worth every penny...and followups are only $60...Hope this helps anyone...Sandra P

Helke didn't mention what type of minerals she thought were necessary, as I recall. In any event, congrats on your wonderful progress! Yes, a good doctor is indeed a great help!

Also - testing or no testing, I'd never take B-vitamin pills. I would instead take foods high in Vit. B. I suspect there are vitamin-type elements in High-B foods that have maybe not yet been identified, so if you take the B pills, you are missing out on something. Same with C. But this is just my opinion.

Sandra,
Did your naturopathic Dr.'s test show that you had mercury? I had a test done in 2001 (electro-dermal, I guess this is the same as you are talking about) every two months. It showed many things that I had not told her about, so I believe that it is a valid testing method, but it didn't show that I had mercury. This is one reason that it took me 2 1/2 more years of research before considering mercury. My mother had the EDS test done also about 3-4 months after having a crown put in and terrible problems started. Her Dr. said that neither mercury nor palladium (the crown was mostly palladium) showed up. I had about convinced her that her problems were mercury and then the interaction between hg/palladium until he told her that.

Anyone else have thought on why the EDS doesn't indicate high levels of mercury?

Hi Missy,

I had a DMSA urine test done before i even saw this naturopath...Which showed high levels of mercury , and some lead...So I know I have it for sure...Before
I saw this naturopathic dr., a different naturopath suspected heavy metals after I discussed my symptoms with her...and then did the DMSA challenge test....which i tested high..........BUT before all this I had a holistic DR. Perform a contact reflex test on me....which is energy muscle testing...and I tested 1st for a virus and a spleen infection...but heavy metals never came up...And I took supplements for a long time for the virus and spleen...which never resolved(because of the metals).....So I guess it is accurate, but not accurate enough???..Anyways, it's like killing your fly problem, when you have a pile of manure on your property....you can spray the flies with bug spray..and kill them....but until you get rid of the manure....the fly problem will never resolve itself...just like metals in the body...Until you get them out....all your other health issues will not resolve(candida, virus, bacteris...etc.,)
ALSO, I know someone else deathly ill...and just found out she had high levels of mercury and lead(urine test)...She did the hair analysis test last year...and it came back as no mercury or lead.....so it was not accurate at all!!! Has anyone experienced this problem?? She is going back to this person to show him her new test results to get her money back....

If I understand your last paragraph correctly, the urine test said she did have lead & mercury, but the hair test said there was none? Well, that is standard procedure. The experts say that mercury & lead don't automatically show up in the hair the way other metals do. I guess the thinking is that they lodge tightly in the tissues and would find their way into the hair only after the rest of the body is heavily polluted.

As to whether or not the people who did the hair analysis are responsible or not, that would be hard to say. Ideally, they should be telling their clients that certain metals only rarely show up on the hair test. I am curious to see how this conflict will play out.

Thanks for the info...Did not know any of that...So does it mean that your body isn't really badly polluted with it, if it DOES NOT show up in hair???She is so severely ill...she cannot do much at all....And she is thinking it is all merc. and lead.....Thanks Sandra P

I think you are right about the EDT test. I think it shows when things aren't functioning properly, but must not be able to detect mercury as the cause (even though I know of one person that was in the office at the time I was and she said her test showed up mercury-maybe it was still in her blood??) Anyway, I think that it may be like having your blood serum levels checked and the Dr. says that everything is "great" when you can still have total body deficiencies of things such as magnesium that serum levels can't show.

I think that I will write to my naturopath and tell them what I have found and at least let them be aware of that possibility so that maybe others want be misled.

No - it COULD mean that even if mercury tests nil, the person may be infested with mercury, but it just is not showing up in the hair. There are other, more complicated tests, that would show if there is mercury lodged in the body.

If a person is deathly ill shortly after getting mercury put in their mouth, I certainly would suspect mercury poisoning. If it was me, I would find a practitioner with experience in the more sophisticated mercury tests.

I think the urine test(dmsa provoked is accurate)...what other tests are there???thanks

Dr. Tim Ray, acupuncturist, says that he has a method for detecting whether or not you have mercury in your body. He has a website. "The Heavy Metal Challenge Issue" is the name of the main article on provocation by NDF, DMSA, EDTA, DMPS (?) - I hope I am remembering these correctly. I do recall that this made really interesting reading.

Thanks!!!Very interesting article....And I think I've done the right things...so that is a relief.....I just hope I see the light at the end of the tunnel soon....Sandra P