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They Searched They Researched They Thought For Themselves: Yeshua! #67112
05/18/12 03:47 PM
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They thought for themselves.
They searched they researched looked into the orignal language in translation so letting no man translate it for them.
They let the orginal language used translate itself in meaning and understanding!.
No man thought for them!
They thought for themselves!

http://www.sidroth.org/site/PageServer?pagename=art_theythought

When we stand before God!
We stand alone so let no preacher or teacher or translator think for you.
Think for yourselves 'they did!

Re: They Searched They Researched They Thought For Themselves: Yeshua! [Re: Lynnmn] #67113
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God gave us a mind to think for ourselves to question things for ourselves!
God wants us to meditate on the word and doing it based on the Greek Hebrew words used not just in many translations.
Us Christians could learn so much from Messianic Jews and just to embrace the liberty to think for ourselves as well.
What if a translator got a word or a meaning wrong!
Should we not look into that?
Everybody should be able to search research and think for themselves.
That's what Christians fought and died for, that right.
To think for themselves and not for others to think for them.
Wether Popes, Pastors, Government or even the King James when King James got fractions to work together in getting a better translation then the translation of that day.
A noble cause but not totally perfect.
Even King James would want us to think for ourselves.
He was bold for his time so should we be too.
He wanted a more exact and better translation.
So should we too.

http://www.theythoughtforthemselves.com/

Re: They Searched They Researched They Thought For Themselves: Yeshua! [Re: Lynnmn] #67114
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Daring To Confront The Forbidden!

May you seek Yeshua!

BOOK "They Thought For Themselves"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9AsGmGOUzY

May we search and mediate and think on our God!

Re: They Searched They Researched They Thought For Themselves: Yeshua! [Re: Lynnmn] #67783
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They thought for themselves. Many believe the original Bible scriptures have been hijacked by its translators. The King James Version does not always follow the original meaning of the word in translation from the original language. Though the King James is good reading. This will be the topic on Sid Roth's "It's Supernatural" next week and hope that show will be posted on YouTube to explain why that is. So we can understand why others feel this way thoroughly. I plan on watching it next week to see what they have to say in full on the subject.

Re: They Searched They Researched They Thought For Themselves: Yeshua! [Re: Lynnmn] #67809
07/19/12 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lynnmn
They thought for themselves.
They searched they researched looked into the orignal language in translation so letting no man translate it for them.
They let the orginal language used translate itself in meaning and understanding!.

When we stand before God!
We stand alone so let no preacher or teacher or translator think for you.
Think for yourselves 'they did!

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- fyi
The Origin and Growth of the English Bible:

I have before me a 'Chart Revision', courtesy of Back To The Bible Broadcast , Lincoln, Nebraska.In the above drawing is shown the gradual development of the English Bible as well as the foundation upon which each successive version rests.

We are living in an age of of printing.
It is hard for us to realize that when the books of the Bible were originally written, there was no printing press to multiply the copies.
Each copy must be made slowly and laboriously by hand. Under these conditions it was inevitable that many ancient books should be lost. This largely accounts for the fact that all the orginal manuscripts of the Bible have perished.

The question arises, what have we then as the literary foundation of our Bible?

1) We have the most ancient copies made from the original manuscripts. We mention only three principal ones.
-- bible
a)The Codex Sinaiticus, origianally a codex of the Greek Bible belonging to the fourth century. Purchased from the Soviet Republic of Russia in 1933 by Great Britain and is now in the British Museum.

b) The Codex Vaticanus, in the Vatical library at Rome, originally contained the whole Bible but parts are lost.Written probably about the fourth century.

c) The CodexAlexandrinus probably written in the fifth century now in the British Museum. It contains the whole Greek Bible with the exception of the forty lost leaves.

2) THE ANCIENT VERSIONS.

a)The Septuagint Version. The Translation of the Old Testament Hebrew Scriptures into Greek, made at Alexandria about 285 BC.

b) The Samaritan Pentateuch, not stricty speaking a version, but the Hebrew text perpetuated in Samaritan characters.

c)Peshito or Syriac. The whole Bible, date uncertain (first or second century?) apparently a translation into the common language of certain portions of Syria.

d) The Vulgate. The entire Bible translated into the Latin language, by Jerome at Bethlehem. Completed about 400 A.D. For a thousand years this was standard Bible in the Catholic Church.
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'Lord Willing we will carry on into the English Versions, later.

-Lynn, You may wish to take over here ENGLISH VERSIONS.





Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
Re: They Searched They Researched / English Versions Bible [Re: Abigail] #67831
07/20/12 06:28 PM
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-Friends,(Please note star)
Lynn has broken her arm and wrist. So please keep her in your prayers. Of course, it is difficult for her to type with the left hand only. So I am trying to simply finish up this one topic.

As you know, NOT everybody agrees with the same gradual devolopment of the English Bibles. I am giving you what I have before me in my King James Thompson Chain Reference Bible. I am satisfied with all of this personally. So we will try to wind this up with the

-English Versions bible
During the dark ages very little Bible translation was attempted. There were a few minor translations made of portions of the Bible.

-1320-1384. Jno. Wycliffe[/u], a great English scholar and Bible student, conceived the plan of translating the whole Bible into common English.

-William Tyndale was the next in order of the great English Translators.

-Miles Coverdale/ A friend of Tyndale, prepared and published a Bible dedicated to Henry the VIII in 1535.

-Matthews' Bible. / 1537

-The Great Bible./ 1539.

-The Geneva Bible / 1560.

-The Bishop's Bible./ 1568.

-The Douay Bible / 1582.

-The King James or Authorized Version / 1611

The Revised Version /1881-1884.

--The American Standard Version / 1900-1901
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---English Versions since 1901 crackthebook

--The Revised Standard Version / 1952

-The Berkley Version /1959

-The Amplified Bible /1965

-The Jerusalem Bible / 1966

--New English Bible. /1970

-New American Standard Bible /1971

-Today's English Version (Good News Bible). / 1976

-New International Version / 1978

-New King James Version /1982
The New Testament of the New King James Version was published in 1979. One hundred and nineteen Bible scholars worked on this project which was sponsored by the International Trust for Bible Studies and Thomas Nelson Publishers. The scholars sought to preserve and improve the purity of the King James Version of 1611. ~~



Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
Re: They Searched They Researched / English Versions Bible [Re: Abigail] #68030
08/08/12 08:39 PM
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Hi Abigail, (((( Smiles ))))

Thank You So Much!
My wrist still hurts but healing up it just takes time but my left hand is getting stronger but not the same as the other. So I can't type as much but was waiting for it to come out on you tube so others can view it as it was on Sid Roths It's Supernatural and the message was that..
The power and culture of the orginal Bible was hijacked by the translators and his case is very convincing. But I have also found that to be so before this came on the Christian channel many mistranslations or not accurate translations in the King James. I have seen some of them like Easter in the index of the red letter edition say's it should have been translated Passover a mistranslation it says of the Greek word in Acts 12:4. Mistranslations do matter it changes the intended meaning of the word and sentence and can cause confusion and doctrinal differences to emerge.
But first here is the program...

Bill Morford on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - One New Man SidRoth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf5cImBf8WA

Need to use ice first then will get back to the Bible they speak of one new man.

Re: They Searched They Researched / English Versions Bible [Re: Lynnmn] #68036
08/09/12 12:49 AM
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Although the King James version may be good but it's not good enough. I watch many different ministries on the Christian channels from Perry Stone to John Hagee to Amazing Facts to Irvin Baxter to also Paster Murray to many others as well and I hear alot of times in their teachings that when they come to a certain word they may pause there and say the actually meaning in the Greek or Hebrew or Aramaic of this word is and it is most usually in comparison to the transalation of the King James. And even the 700 club mentions that there can be some mistranslation there as I watched a question on the subject being answered on T.V..
There is nothing wrong with getting the meaning as close to the orginal language as possible.
They are not hesitant to do that on T.V.because they think that is a good thing to do and so do I.
The King James people translaters no matter how admired they may be were only translaters and we must not give them diety "of course" as only God's Holy word has that and that would be in the orginal Hebrew, Greek , Aramaic language used.
Like in the word pharmekia or pharmakos, pharmakon translated as sorcery or in the original Greek word, “chloros' better translated as green but translated as pale and the greek word for passover as easter and also recaptering the Jewish roots of the entire Bible and learning the differences between Idoms and figures of speech used in the Bible and even though the Dead Sea Scrolls mostly verified the scriptures as being pretty acurate.
Any differences in a word used in that scripture should go before any latter translation in the orginal language used.
The more accurate the translation the better.
It helps clarify it much better in meaning for the reader.
It does make a difference of course the best translation of the orginal words used is of course, the best.
That's why I like the Hebrew, Greek, English Coded with Strong's Concordance numbers the best.
But also have the One New Man Bible they mentioned on that link to view.
And then I research it all myself to see where they very in translation.
Which one is more sticking to the original word.
Still looking through it and cross checking to see and a person can learn alot by just doing that but of course it's alot to study.
But highly interesting indeed!

Re: They Searched They Researched / English Versions Bible [Re: Lynnmn] #68230
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They searched they researched and they found..
The Oh My God I Love It Site is very interesting Indeed!

http://omgili.com/about.html

Re: They Searched They Researched / English Versions Bible [Re: Lynnmn] #68973
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Greek Is A Very Expressive Language!
The English version in not inspired what is inspired is the orginal languages written in.

Re: They Searched They Researched They Found Jesus! [Re: Lynnmn] #70635
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They Searched They Researched They Thought For Themselves.
Free To Compare This is An Interesting Video!
Jesus Truly is Special They Already Believe That!
Jesus preformed miracles He is the Christ Messiah Annointed One Born Of A Virgin Without The Aid Of a Human Father Righteous Without Sin Raised to Heaven Close To God!
What Prophet in Scripture is all that?
Because He is not a Prophet read the Holy Book the Bible in Truth The Gospel Of Jesus Christ The Guide To Mankind.
Koran 3:3
Why Not Read the Book About Jesus Then!
It's all there. Why not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhX9vzdSkxc

Jesus and Islam - The Shocking Truth .

Re: They Searched They Researched They Found Jesus! [Re: Lynnmn] #72745
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Even though there may be a misunderstanding of the original intent of a scripture or a mistranslation of a word from the original manuscript copied: The Gospel was never stopped the Gospel has never changed we preach Jesus/Christ Crucified.
Our Messiah prophecied to come a suffering servant Messiah.
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But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence.1 Corinthians 1:23-30

Re: They Searched They Researched They Found Jesus! [Re: Lynnmn] #73934
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Why The Original Language Is So Important Is That..
God is revealing Himself by the giving of names.
The name Jesus is good but Yeshua is salvation it's in His name that people understand and thats important.
He's a Savior. This ancient language a supernatural language.

The Lord Is Your Peace | Jonathan Bernis | It's Supernatural with

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBk8h4O2RDM

Meanings of Hebrew names in Scripture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0VNzJ-1_eY

Re: They Searched They Researched They Found Jesus! [Re: Lynnmn] #74079
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El Shaddai Ministries Statement Of Faith
http://www.elshaddaiministries.us/Handouts/Statement_of_beliefs.pdf
The Lord our God is one " Echad " " a composite unity" the Eternal One in Whom all the fullness of deity dwells in the bodily form... on that site it describes Yeshua!
Grafted in.
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I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
Romans 11:11-24

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Have they stumbled that they should fall? Paul said God forbid!
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Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jeremiah 31:31-33


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