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Please! I need encouragement!!! #7282
04/28/06 07:36 PM
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Hello all. Wow. After reading alot of these posts, I'm almost wondering if it is worth all the trouble getting my amalgams out!! (which I want to do, but am very frightened of the risks). Rest assured I will do EVERYTHING in my power to mitigate for unwanted side effects (Am going to a good biologic dentist, will follow Dr. Cutler's chelation protocol and will use Diamondlite products for replacement). What I REALLY need right now are success stories. Stories of things gone RIGHT. Stories of symptoms abating. Stories of increasing health; a light at the end of the tunnel!!! PLEASE!!! Thank you.....

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7283
04/28/06 08:28 PM
04/28/06 08:28 PM
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Dulak  Offline
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After reading everything on this board and other places I'm surprised you are afraid to have them out ... I'd be afraid to have them in.


Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7284
04/28/06 08:44 PM
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I guess I've just felt so crappy lately that the prospect of feeling any worse is unfathomable.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7285
04/28/06 08:56 PM
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I know how you are feeling. I'm worried about replacement too. It's not an easy decision. But I've decided to have mine out because I see it as my only chance of being normal. I've been ill since I was 12 that if there is a chance getting this poison out of my teeth will help me, then I have to try.

I had a root canal tooth extracted last week and the bone cleaned to remove old infection. Even though I still have about 8 amalgams left, I have felt an improvement in mental symptoms over the past few days from just having this one gone. I was starting to get all my old OCD symptoms back - like having to count every step on the stairs - but I've found myself going upstairs and not counting the steps. Then I've got to the top and thought "I didn't count!". I know it's not much, but it means a lot to me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7286
04/28/06 09:00 PM
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ahh ya know what you mean ... I dont know your story; but it sounds like you are taking alot of precautions ...


Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7287
04/28/06 09:04 PM
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Thanks for your prompt replies, guys. Yeah, I'm going to do it for sure, I just want some words of encouragement and success stories. THey are hard to come by. Is this because once people get well they leave the message boards?

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7288
04/28/06 10:09 PM
04/28/06 10:09 PM
Russ  Online Content

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Hey solon,

Here are some stories that I hope help you.

First, my story. I've recovered dramatically and my life has changed:

http://herballure.com/mms

Next, a growing collection of stories that I am putting together:

http://mercurytalk.com/Stories


It sounds like you're on the right track and have the right attitide about staying safe. The vast majority of the people I know that got worse after the removal had the work done improperly or did not detox properly after.

Hope this helps.


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Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7289
04/29/06 05:42 AM
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Hi Saloonbrett,

I'm so sorry by telling my depressing story. I wish a had positive news to tell. I'm just trying to warn you so that you wont go through what I did. The best thing a person can do is as much research as possible, since what you don't know can hurt you.

I wrote more long letters about Lingual and inferior aveolar nerve damage which will make you aware before you have your work done. Are you getting IV anesthesia with novicaine? My advise is not to!!! Please read this important information close to the bottom of my long letter about how to find out ways to avoid nerve damaage!!! On this mercury section of this forum click to ALLERGIC TO NEW COMPOSiTES : ANONYMOUS. my long letter says; DID YOU KNOW THIS, EVERYONE?

Also I may be suffering from nerve damage and estrogen behaving white composites but heres the positive news; I'm not suffering hardly at all from heavy metal poisoning. For years I had 17 amalgam mercury fillings, miixed with many alluminum oxide porcelein and nickel crowns, 1 gold crown, and about 8 composites. All these metals combined created electrolysis to where it was like I had a batterie in my mouth for 25 years. So you know how sick I was just by reading my letters.

The amazing thing is that after I got all the metals removed I feelt great that day and about 1/2 as toxic as I did before for only 2 weeks. After that I've been feeling better and better every day that went by. Now I feel practically toxic free and its only been 3 months! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I've heard of many people who had alot less mercury and metals in their mouth and yet have been feeling even worse for up to a year!

I keep trying to convince people to stop useing it because it way too harsh on the body! It moves the mercury too fast that can cause even permanent damage! I'm trying to tell as many people as they can that they don't have to suffer needlessly if they would give the clay bathes a chance.

The Moorbath deap peat from Dermamed saved my life when I still had the metals in my mouth and the L L's Magnetic bentonite clay bathes did too. Although I like useing this clay better now that the metals are out since its alittle more mild. I had no side affects after useing these, just a revived yet relaxed feeling! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Please read all the details in this mercury section of the forum. Click to : DMPS AND SUICIDAL THOUGHTS: AARON, my long letter says:ATTENTION EVERYONE!!! This is a letter of encouragement also. Please note It says on their web-site if you have high blood pressure, than don't use the Moorbath.

Also I just wanted to say that the proper removal of mercury was also the reason why I feelt better afterwards. The dentist used ion generators to suck out the mercury vapors, a dental dam to prevent me from swallowing mercury fragments, and a Vitamin C chelation, for detoxing mercury and heavy metals. I also had a charcoal capsules for nausea. I also had a accupressure message too for detoxing. All this is the proper way to get your metals removed. Other than that, you will get much sicker for maybe a few years.

There are 2 more letters of mine if you want to read them with more information. Just skim over the story part to the information. Thank you for praying for me since I got estrogen behaving composites as a replacement for the metals along with nerve damage.

I'll pray that everything goes much better for you .

Last edited by Scarlet; 06/03/06 02:29 AM.
Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7290
04/29/06 07:17 AM
04/29/06 07:17 AM
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Demi,

I too had OCD since I was about 8 years old. I still have it now. I check locks and doors, and stoves more than once. I have a phobia of fires and thieft. Many times things were stolden from me so that doesn't help with th OCD! Also I check things that I write for fear its not correct. The more important it is, the more I stress over checking it. Its so draining and time consuming.

How I wish I could get rid of it. I would feel so much more free if I could. I just wanted to let you know that depression makes it far worse. I remembered that when I was single the loneliness would make me check everything more than once for hours. Now that I have a wonderful and sweet fiance' in my life who took care of me when I was very ill, the OCD would last a few minutes.he is the only good thing in my life right now.

Also keeping busy with a purpose in life always made OCD less magnified. This forum is a great purpose if I can prevent people from suffering with my information!

Have you heard of cognitive therapy? This works for me. To avoid checking things over and over again, I make a concious effort to remember that I already checked something and than this keeps me from checking it again. I'll only check it 1-3 times only.

I use to have to do everything in 2s or else I thought something bad was going to happen to me. I don't do it much anymore because I tell myself that it is all in my head.

I hope this helps you knowing how draining this can be. If you try some of the cognitive theraphy, let me know if it works!

Good luck!

Last edited by Scarlet; 06/03/06 02:21 AM.
Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7291
04/29/06 12:13 PM
04/29/06 12:13 PM
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Scarlet, could you tell me where you buy the clay from, is it the same as bentonite clay? I have some but it,s way too expensive to put in the bath, a small bag costs £10 here in the UK. Dawn.

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7292
04/29/06 06:39 PM
04/29/06 06:39 PM
Russ  Online Content

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I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for:

Bentonite

Bentonite


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Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7293
04/30/06 04:23 AM
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Dawn,

Please click to DMPS AND SUICIDALTHOUGHTS: AARON in this Mercury section of this forum. Youl find several of my letters with all the information about these clays. If I missed anything, please let me know so I can give you all the information you need! God bless you,


Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7294
05/05/06 12:43 AM
05/05/06 12:43 AM
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HI I know that removing this poison is the right thing to be doing .For the first time in 10 years i slept great and some pain is leaving my body after suffering for awhile!!!I will pray that you'll be encouraged by God.He is the one to lean on during these times.I think also we need to take it easy on ourselves and not expect too much too soon.Mercury took too many years from me and I wont let it steal anymore!!!

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7295
05/05/06 08:34 AM
05/05/06 08:34 AM
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Hi Scarlet. I used to have a huge problem with checking things, especially between the years of 12-16, but it isn't so much of a problem for me these days. i found that telling myself I had already checked it worked somewhat aswell, although the compulsions and mental thoughts were largely beyond my control. I used to have rituals and so forth that were extremely debiliating. But when I had my braces removed and didn't get filllings anymore, my condition improved about 80% - which is a vast improvement.

These days what I'm left with is more neurological - tics like symptoms and counting symptoms which are largely beyond my control. It's been a lot less since having a my root canal tooth extracted. But if I'm brushing my hair, for example, my mind will sometimes count the amount of strokes - totally involuntarily and in a way that is very hard to suppress. If I'm going up stairs, my mind will count the steps - almost like a backing track. It's totally weird, but I am 100% sure it's neurological disorder caused by the mercury interferring with receptors in my brain etc.

Another huge problem for me is anxiety and panic attacks. They can come out of nowhere in the most unwanted of places. Again this is difficult to control. I just try to get myself out of the threatening situation and then take deep breaths. But it's very disheartening as it can make relationships with others difficult. It depends, really, how understanding the other person is. Some people are not understanding and make me feel really worthless and stupid, others are supportive because they know what it's like.

i found that telling myself God is in control of everything helps aswell in suppressing the need to do a ritual - which I very rarely get these days, unlike when I was a teenager.

Thanks for your reply and sharing your experience <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Demi,

I too had OCD since I was about 8 years old. I still have it now. I check locks and doors, and stoves more than once. I have a phobia of fires and thieft. Many times things were stolden from me so that doesn't help with th OCD! Also I check things that I write for fear its not correct. The more important it is, the more I stress over checking it. Its so draining and time consuming. How I wish I could get rid of it. I would feel so much more free if I could. I just wanted to let you know that depression makes it far worse. I remembered that when I was single the loneliness would make me check everything more than once for hours. Now that I have a wonderful and sweet fiance' in my life who took care of me when I was very ill, the OCD would last a few minutes.he is the only good thing in my life right now. Also keeping bussy with a purpose in life always made OCD less magnified. This forum is a great purpose if I can prevent people from suffering with my information! Have you heard of cognitive theraphy? This works for me. To avoid checking things over and over again, I make a concious effort to remember that I already checked something and than this keeps me from checking it again. I'll only check it 1-3 times only. I use to have to do everything in 2s or else I thought something bad was going to happen to me. I don't do it much anymore because I tell myself that it is all in my head. I hope this helps you knowing how draining this can be. If you try some of the cognitive theraphy, let me know if it works! Good luck!

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7296
05/05/06 02:07 PM
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Hey, I count things all the time. I didn't know it was a problem. No big deal - there's lots worse stuff caused by mercury. When I was about 8, I had to make sure, when I was sitting at my desk, that both sides of my chair were equidistant from my desk by measuring with my fingers. It was just something I HAD to do in order to feel comfortable. It still bothers me, but I try to ignore the urge to measure. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7297
05/05/06 05:15 PM
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Anonymous OP
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I think it's hurtful to minimize someone elses problem. I'm sure lots of people count things out of habit. That is different to involuntary mental disturbance of counting rituals. I'm sure those who have OCD know what I mean. It's a serious condition that can lead to suicide, and mental disturbances can really impair someone's quality of life. There are worse things than mercury poisoning, but that doesn't mean it doesn't cause suffering.

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7298
05/05/06 08:13 PM
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little off topic but I just watched the movie Keane; was a interesting movie about a guy with some mental disturbances ... (I'm a movie buff)


Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7299
05/05/06 08:23 PM
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Demi, I didn't mean to make light of your suffering and I am sorry that you took it that way. I find humor to be helpful in alleviating some otherwise hard-to-deal with situations - Hey, if I don't laugh, I might cry. I hope you understand that my intention was, in no way intended to belittle your situation but to let you know that I have had to deal with some of that too (probably not to the same extent) and I try to deal with it by trying to ignore it and/or find some humor in it. That's just how I deal with it. I ask your forgiveness. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7300
05/05/06 08:35 PM
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No worries, Dallas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I realised after I posted that I had probably taken it the wrong way as you're not the kind of person to make light of peoples suffering. And you're right, it's not the biggest problem, it just concerns me because of the clear damage having been done to my brain/thought processes - like I have compusion to count to ten many times during the day, and this happens on and off through out the day, combined with compulsion to blink and tic like symptoms, but I have noticed these are mainly worse after eating. And compared to how I was 18 years ago, my symptoms now are negligable. This gives me hope of recovery in the future, seeing as I made improvements before when I wasn't even aware mercury was the problem.

Incidentally, anyone see the Agatha Christie mystery over Christmas (can't remember name) where one of the characters was always wearing dark glasses, had mental problems, and one of the other characters said she always had migraines after meals? I couldn't help think mercury poisoning!


Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7301
05/05/06 08:53 PM
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Not sure if it is relevant or encouraging, but may aswell share <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> My friend at college was a psychology student and she was running reflex/response rate tests, and asked me to be a subject for her. I did it, and got one of the quickest response rates, and she said I was way above average. I'm not sure I would still score as highly lol, and as my competion was most students (who here are famous for their hangovers) it might not say a lot, but this was after a decade of mercury poisoning that I believe caused my OCD <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7303
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I too have ocd but i just thought it was normal, it doesn,t stress me out and i would never have thought it was to do with metals, as i know loads of people with it who dont have fillings, mine is mild like, when im brushing my teeth, i have to brush them at least 60 times on one spot or somethings going to happen, and i always find that there are always 13 stairs in houses, so i miss the last one because 13 is an unlucky number. David Beckham has it! Some peoples lives are ruined by it i have seen programms on tv. Dawn

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7304
05/06/06 04:09 AM
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Hi Demi, and Dawn,

I'm glad that you don't check locks and doors too much any more. It sounds like the cognitive therapy worked for that. I'm sorry to hear that it was replaced by the tics, counting, and anxiety attacks.

I'm not sure what to tell you about the tics except that it probably has to do with the nerves system. Mercury attacks the tissues, organs, and the central nervous system. Although B-vitamins and B-12 are good for the nerves, I heard it isn't good for you after you get the mercury out. So click to: NERVE PAIN AND HOT FEELING on this mercury section of this forum. There it will tell you what natural suppliments you can take that are safe after amalgam removal as well as for nerve damage. Scroll down to my letter that says, SCARLET.

Does the tics happen more when you get nervous, maybe in public? It may be triggered from stress. For the counting, maybe you can ask yourself what would go wrong if you didn't count. I use to count everytheing in 2's. If I counted in 3's I always thought something bad was going to happen. Then I would tell myself that this is not logical and thats what made me stop counting. Sure enough nothing went wrong. Try this cognitive therapy. It might help you too. I use to get anxiety attacks for a few years and suddenly they just went away. I believe that yours will probably go away when the metals slowly come out of your system.

I know how your feeling also when it comes to people making fun of you and making you feel stupid and worthless! I'm experiencing this too. The people I expected to understand the most don't who happens to be my family!!! I won't even speak to my family anymore on the phone except my father most of the time. He is the only one who really is understanding and compassionate. I speak to my mother also, its just that she always says the wrong thing that just always makes my day. My sisters have always accused me of being a hypocondriac and being ignorant. I told them to just stop trying to communicate with me for a while since they make me feel worse rather than better.

I had mercury and heavy metal poisoning, neglegence of 10 unsealed fillings which caused bone loss, and Lingual and inferior nerve damage which I'm still dealing with today from 3 different dentists. Out of all the people in the world it is these dentists that have made me feel more worthless than anyone else after what they have done to me!!!

I can't help but think how wonderful their lives must be compared to mine, because they soaked me for all my money, made me sick, and left me with excusiating pain and numbness to where I can't even taste my food much any more. I can't help but wonder how wonderful their Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter was while I just sat there in pain and couldn"t even eat!!! I bet they were happy with there familys while I don"t have any children because I became infertile from heavy metal poisoning along with many other illnesses. I feel as if the these dentists have robbed me of most of my life. I can't help but think how my life would have been if only I was healthy enough to do the things I wanted to do. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I'm sure Im not the only one on this forum who feels this way either!

I know I must forgive these dentists someday and I hope I get to that point soon too. But I also believe whether these dentists are forgiven or not they should be accountable for what they have done, so they don't keep hurting more and more innocent people!!!

I have been praying for all the sufferers on this forum and I will continue to do so along with praying for you too. May God bless you and I hope you get better with everything!!!

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Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7305
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A few things here: re: dentists: You can't paint them all with the same brush. There may be some who are greedy and just don't care. But, some of them really MUST believe that mercury is ok because they work with it all day long for 5 or so days per week. My previous dentist is a great guy who had articles stuck on his wall stating how safe amalgams are. Meanwhile, his daughter has Crohn's, his wife has fibromyalgia and he, himself has fairly serious nerve damage in his arms. He just doesn't see it. He believes the ADA without question!
Regarding OCD: I do count things all the time -not as a "luck" thing or superstition - I don't believe in luck but in the Providence of God. Neverthless, I count. And I check the stove probably on average 5 times before I go anywhere. I have done this for so long that it is just a part of me now, and until yesterday when I read Demi's post, I never gave it any thought.
On another note: before I got my amalgams removed, my kids, in fun, would try to scare me in various ways. They never could. NOTHING they did would even phase me. But I am finding lately that when they try to scare me now, and sometimes even when they just sneeze or cough, I jump! Anyone else have this happen. Does anyone know why. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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Hi Scarlet,

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Does the tics happen more when you get nervous, maybe in public? It may be triggered from stress.

They happen all day long, off and on, and seem independent of stress. They are of a similar vein to involuntary jerking movements - which is a symptom of mercury toxicity. I've noticed they intensify after eating, and some days are better than others. The blinking compulsion I've had off and on since childhood - probably related to dental work, but it's so long ago that it's impossible to remember if I had dental work just before they started up.

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For the counting, maybe you can ask yourself what would go wrong if you didn't count.

I've found that helped with some counting rituals. I get two kind of counting symtoms, which I'm not sure people want to know about, by maybe someone else gets them too (it's not easy to talk about these kind of things). The ritualistic counting symtpoms I get are tied to a feeling of something going wrong if I don't do it - I used to have to avoid anything in 2 or 6 or 13, I had to leave either 5 or 7 hours between something, but never 6 or 2. Same would apply to days, weeks, months, and pretty much anything from brands of chocolate to watching videos. This was extremely debiliating as it was very intrusive into my life.

I have managed to overcome this about 90%, and these days if I feel a twinge of fear if something falls in 2 or 6 etc, then I try to suppress it. At one time I couldn't, but that was when I had braces and fillings and I do believe there is only so much we can do by force of will to battle the devastating impacts of mercury (which I know you are aware of, but some people aren't and think we shoudl be able to control ourselves).

The second kind of counting I get is just involuntary, and not tied at all to something bad happening - it's like the jerking movements. My mind just starts to count sometimes if I do something repetative - whether it's brush strokes, walking, stairs. But it comes and goes and I do have some success suppressing it, but it's difficult. I wonder sometimes if this could be like what happens with autistic kids - the mind dysfynctions due to mercury. I find this counting "annoying" and I would like it to be gone (has only really returned the past couple of years since having dental work and a decaying amalgam).

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I I use to get anxiety attacks for a few years and suddenly they just went away. I believe that yours will probably go away when the metals slowly come out of your system.

I think so aswell, at least I hope so. I did get such a big improvement when my braces came out and I stopped getting fillings. The anxiety and phobias are one of the hardest symptoms for me to deal with. I have so many phobias, some more intrusive than others. I have a phobia of things falling off walls or shelves - which can makes travel difficult, phobia of germs, which means I have to leave the washing up for my family because if I attempt to wash up, I will have to do it over and over and over because I'll be afraid there are germs still on the plate and forks etc (my family just think I'm lazy, lol). At one time even the thought of kissing someone was repulsive to me as the thought of all the germs. This is a very common phobia for OCD sufferers. I have a phobia of spiders (sometimes wake up thinking they are falling on me), a phobia of gas (which means I have to check appliances a lot of times and that the carbon monoxide detector is working), a phobia of hurting people, caustophobia (spelling), phobia of lifts (but this is getting better), a phobia of loud noises (like I can't go to pop concerts as the noise gives me panic attack), medical phobia, phobia of using contact lenses, phobia of childbirth (which also influences how I feel about sex/intimacy), and now I have got a phobia of metals in foods. I could go on, but this is long enough already <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> But all these impact my quality of life. Yet, I still manage to function relatively normally. For those with chronic OCD it's a lot worse, they can't even leave the house (which I'm sure you are well aware of).

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I know how your feeling also when it comes to people making fun of you and making you feel stupid and worthless! I'm experiencing this too. The people I expected to understand the most don't who happens to be my family!!! I won't even speak to my family anymore on the phone except my father most of the time. He is the only one who really is understanding and compassionate. I speak to my mother also, its just that she always says the wrong thing that just always makes my day. My sisters have always accused me of being a hypocondriac and being ignorant. I told them to just stop trying to communicate with me for a while since they make me feel worse rather than better


I understand. My family are burying their head in the sand about my condition. They just can't cope with it. To make matters worse, my mother is mentall ill, and has been a long time (which in my opinion is acute mercury poisoning as she wasn't ill before having fillings). She is the one I can talk to mostly about my problems though as she understands more. My sister gets really frustrated with me. But I think it's because it hurts her to have to deal with it. She wants me to be normal, and I can't help that I have these problems. I'm doing what I can to try and get better. I feel for her, though, and wish I didn't get so anxious - like when we were on holiday I made her get off the bus because I couldn't cope on it anymore. I was having a serious panic attack as the guy behind me kept saying the wheels were going to fall off (it was an old bus) and I just couldn't cope. For the rest of the night she was in the mood with me and said I was selfish and so forth. It really doesn't help my self-esteem when I felt really bad already for having to get off the bus. I now have a phobia of buses aswell. I feel sick if I have to go on one.

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I had mercury and heavy metal poisoning, neglegence of 10 unsealed fillings which caused bone loss, and Lingual and inferior nerve damage which I'm still dealing with today from 3 different dentists. Out of all the people in the world it is the dentists that have made me feel more worthless than anyone else after what they have done to me!!! I can't help but think how wonderful their lives must be compared to mine, because they soaked me for all my money, made me sick, and left me with excusiating pain and numbness to where I can't even taste my food much any more. I can't help but wonder how wonderful their Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter was while I just sat there in pain and couldn"t even eat!!! I bet they were happy with there familys

That is terrible. I'm sorry for all your suffering. I don't blame my dentist for what she did to me as I really don't think she believed it was poisonous. This was almost 20 years ago. As to dentists now who continue to use amalgam despite something like 60,000 cases of poisoning from the fillings, I am a lot less charitable. They at least owe it to their patients to inform them that amalgam contains mercury and there are those who believe the fillings are toxic. But they don't even do that, at least not most anyway.

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while I don"t have any children because I became inferlile from heavy metal poisoning along with many other illnesses.

I am the same. I haven't had a period now for almost 2 years. They say I have PCOS, but that's only because they didn't know what was wrong with me and the specialist said "it's probably that" - but she didn't know, so she guessed. I have never been in a relationship because I don't know how to cope with it. I would like to be, but I am a little phobic of it because I can't cope with another person in my life shouting at me or making me feel bad for all my phobias. If I had a supportive partner, it would be nice, but I very rarely meet compassionate people. Usually, within an hour, I have got on peoples nerves because I'm a handful. I mostly keep to myself. My stress levels are lower then because I can do what I like and there's no one to have to think of. The trouble is it's isolating and lonely, so it's not a good thing to do, but the less stress in my life the better. But I would like to be married, if I could find someone who wants me around that long, and I somehow doubt anyone will. I try to stay positive, though, that I can get better when the fillings are out. I'm 30 now and maybe by the time I'm 40, I will be a lot better, and these days that's not old <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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I feel as if the these dentists have robbed me of most of my life. I can't help but think how my life would have been if only I was healthy enough to do the things I wanted to do. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I'm sure Im not the only one on this forum who feels this way either! I know I must forgive the dentists someday and I hope I get to that point soon too. But I also believe whether these dentists are forgiven or not they should be accountable for what they have done, so they don't keep hurting more and more innocent people!!!

I ultimately blame the government. Amalgam has been banned in several European countries (Sweden and Austria come to mind) so there's no reason why it can't be banned in our respective countries either. I wish it would be.

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I have been praying for all the sufferers on this forum and I will continue to do so along with praying for you too. may God bless you and I hope you get better with everything!!!

You too! Having any health problem is sad, but when the conditions have been inflicted by an ignorant medical/dental community, then it's a tragedy. I'm really sorry for all your pain and hope you get better <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7307
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Scarlet ... I dont mean to be rude but can you use some paragraphs please.

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Dulak,

Most defiently I'll try to remember thoughs paragraghs! I know I have the worse grammer. It use to be excellent besides the spelling. I use to be able to write professional letters right the very first time, before I got really sick with heavy metal toxicty. I had severe memory loss that is alot better now, but my grammer got 10 times worse!!!

Believe it or not, in order for anyone to be able to understand my letters, I have to correct each one at least 5 times before they are even 1/2 way decent. This is a crime because I have so much helpful information to share with everyone. I pray that this is not permanent because I get so mad at my self for forgetting how to write and for making so many mistakes!!!

But thank you for informing me of this because I want more than anything for everyone to be able to read my information so it will help them!!!

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Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7309
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Scarlet haha ya ... you have alot of good info scarlet just want to make sure I can read it without my brain going on a merry go round <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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05/08/06 09:18 AM
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Hi, Demi,

After I read your long letter I feelt very heavy in my heart, especially when you talked about all the phobias you have and how OCD has keep you isolated from having a relaationship in your life. Out of all the suffering I had in my life, which I haven't mentioned, and is alot more than just what Iv'e been through with the dentists , the worst was loneliness.

I'm 46 years old and after all the bad relationships I've had, I finally found an understanding man who loves me just the way I am. In my opinion its very very difficult to find a good person who excepts your faults as well as the good things about you. I can understand your fear of not finding an understanding person, and that you don't want someone to yell at you for all your phobias. Well guess what, I had a few of thoughs and I told them to get lost!!! Noone should have to put up with that abuse!!! When the right one comes along, you'l know it., Because even if you have a clay mask all over your face, you've gained 15 pounds, or have grown to look older, this man will still think you are beautiful!!!

30 is still young. So don't think its too late to find a partner. I believe it took me this long to find the right person because I had bad luck, and because I also needed to be more easy going myself. It takes 2 to tango and I believe that both partners must contribute to eachother. They both must try to better themselves for eachother as well as except each others faults. As long as that persons faults are not abusive in any way, and as long as their faithful, and kind too. some people are so picky that they end up alone for the rest of their life. Like for example if the person doesn't like every single thing that they like than they don't want anything to do with them. I think its hard enough just finding a good harded person. I don"t believe that you have to have everything in common with eachother. My parents have been married for 56 years and they don't have anything in common! Can you believe it?

By the way, I too have a phobia of strangers. Can you believe that? This started about 3 years ago. I'm especially nervous to call and ask for information about a very important service that will cost me to loose alot of money if I don't throughly check them out. For example calling a dentist office for information, an attorney, or applying for a job, etc. Its because most of the time they are in a rush and get annoyed and act rude when I ask detailed questions. I'll procrastinate for aleast a week before calling. I don't go places as often as I use to either. Also thoughs big black water bugs that look like roaches but are as large as beetles give me the heeby geebies!

i too have Poly cisic ovarian syndrome which means you are infertile as well as having ovarian cists. If your not sure you have it than I think a sonogram will show it if you do. This is how the doctor determined I had it.

Yes I believe your right about the government being mostly at fault for allowing this corruption to go on. I also believe that me along with many other people on this forum should find ways to make our voices heard that these crimes has to stop!!!

I'll be praying for you so that the OCD will subside and get better.

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Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7311
05/08/06 09:25 PM
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Thanks, Scarlet. It's always good to talk to people who know what it's like, or have an idea. The loneliness is hard. I feel like I've been lonely all my life, at least since these problems began. I was alone a lot at school, never really fitted in, and was too ill to have any fun. Thanks for the sympathy. Most people think that if you're lonely it's easy to just go out there and fix it by finding people but a: that's easier said than done when you have social phobia b: it's not that easy to find likeminded people or trustworthy people who accept us, even if we don't have illness etc.

I cope with the loneliness because I rather be alone than in situations that are stressful, and I find that happens too often with those who don't understand what it's like having phobias. If I'm doing something alone, I'm not bothering anyone. I feel better and I get comfort in not being a pain to anyone. I sometimes think it would be nice to have a hand to hold when I feel the panic rise, but I've never known anyone in my life who offers that kind of reassurance when I get an attack. They just get annoyed with me. I do think people with mental illness get the worst treatment by society. If someone has a bad leg, then someone else might open a door for them, but with mental illness, people either think you should be able to control it, in other words it's your fault, or they get scared by it.

I hope I don't sound like I'm feeling sorry for myself. I know what my limitations are and I try to deal with, but I also know that no one can help me but myself. I do think that we have to keep fighting and reaching out and trying not to give in - although, like with everything, not pushing too hard - and always keep positive. I hope that getting my fillings out will improve my condition. I don't ever expect to be 100% well because of the age I was exposed to this toxin (about 9) and the amount of time (20 years). But improvement would be great <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I try to look at life with the attitude of taking bad experiences and turning them into positive ones - like I get the impression you do <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I'm glad you found someone to support you, I think that will help you a lot.

I have a kind of phone phobia aswell. I hate talking to people on the phone and never answer strange calls (we have a phone who says who is calling).

I had a scan to see if I had polycystic ovaries, but they didn't show up any. But they said I could still have the syndrome as I have the symptoms. I really don't think they knew what was wrong with me, and this just was a good label to keep me quiet (been going to see them for 10 years saying something was wrong with me).

I too am trying to do what I can to make people aware of this issue. All this needless suffering so many people go through, all the robbed childhoods and ruined lives - it's devastating.

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7312
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Demi, I too had a tough time in school. There were thousands of kids at that school, but many times I was all alone. My best friend was my dog. But, I am married now (I will pray for this blessing for you) and have a few friends, but the only one I really open up to (though not totally) is my husband who is very understanding. I know my limits with my friends, and I try to stay within those limits - not always easy. I also do not like to talk on the phone unless i know the person on the other side very well. Even my mom has given up on me. Thankfully, God is there, and my husband.
I have terrible trouble talking to strangers. This is difficult because my husband is a pastor. When I see new people coming to church, I want to run and hide. But I don't - I stay and talk - and I am blessed, usually, by the people I meet. Most of my kids are extremely shy - need to get their fillings out too - soon if we can ever afford it. They hate talking on the phone and don't make friends easily. It has been, and is, a struggle. But I thank God for His grace in the struggle and because of Jesus, I look forward to a bright and everlasting future. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Hi Demi,

No, I don't think your feeling sorry for yourself. In fact I think you are being very realistic about your situation. I know how cruel society can be! I have been hurt so many times because from different heartless people that yes it has caused me to be somewhat of a hermit over the years. I use to try to make friends, but have learned that there are only a few people you can trust. I love people though and hate to see anyone suffer, so I find myself compelled to try to be bold and warn them about corrupt dentistry and toxic dental materials!!!
The positive news is that if your isolating yourself from people because of mental illness there is hope for you!! Through the research I've done, Iv'e found that mercury, along with many other environmental toxins and chemicals, causes mental illnesses of all kinds. Before I got my 17 amalgam fillings, along with the other metals in my mouth, I was bi-polar for about 6 years. As soon as I got all the toxins out of my mouth, I became very mellow and normal as I was in my younger years. Thank the Lord!! My poor fiance' went through hec being with me. But he understood that it was the toxic dental materials that made me the opposite of easy going. I figure if he put up with that than he must really love me. More than anything else in the world I wanted this to go away, because the last thing in the world I wanted to do ,is to hurt him! I believe your whole life will change for the better just by getting your fillings out. what are you getting to replace your fillings? I've done a lot of research on toxic dental materials and found that the Diamond crown, Diamond lite, Diamondlink, and Diamondbond from Biodent Labs sounds like its the safest out of the white fillings. Also high grade holistic gold that is about 85% gold, 15% platinum, and less than 1% iridium which does not oxidize or leach out sounds like its the safest. I'll have to look in my notes for the name of this Lab. I'm planning to get these for my permanent crowns, and bridges.
Also to keep away from enviromental toxins. I clean my place with white vinigar, baking soda, simple green and other non toxic house hold cleaners. I also try to eat as much whole organic foods as possible. Have you heard of Dr. Lorriane Day videos? You can order her video, "You can't emprove on God," It shows how just by changing her diet and lifestlye along with prayer, that she was able to get rid of her advance breast cancer. I believe that its not only breast cancer, but also any illness can be healed if we do what what she has done with her life. you can find this under the google search. God bless you, and don't loose hope!

Re: Please! I need encouragement!!! #7314
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Thanks for the support, Dallas and Scarlet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I do hope that I can improve my condition. As much as I'm doing all this for myself, I'm also doing it for my family and any future family I may have if I get married some day.

The positive side is that I know very well, after all these years and all I've been through, what type of a husband I need, and that helps somewhat <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I am having diamondlite to replace the fillings and had a compatibility test for it, which came back ok. I have about eight fillings left.

That is a great idea about natural cleaning <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Thanks for the tip <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'm trying to eat as much organic food as I can afford, and am on dairy free diet, and trying to limit gluten intake. Also my only drink of the day now is water, with only a hot chocolate or coke when I eat out. I miss coffee, lol, so have promised myself that when the fillings are all done, I can treat myself to the occasional vanilla coffee <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I'm glad you have a supportive fiance who believes you that it is the mercury. So many people don't seem to believe that it's capable of causing so much suffering. it must have been hard to have bi-polar and OCD. I do think that the mercury has contributed to my shyness/introversion as I wasn't this way before I had fillings - was really confident and outgoing - but within 2 years of having the fillings I was nothing the same.

I never expected to get better, and thank God for finding out it was mercury. I often felt like God had forgotten me, but now I see that He hadn't. So many people never find out that it's the mercury, or they don't listen when someone tells them.

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Hi Demi,

I'm so glad you are taking my suggestions to make things better for you! I'm glad your getting the Diamonlite too. Biodent labs claims they do through testing on their Diamondcrown, Diamonlite, Diamonlink(cement), and Diamonbond(itching gel). So I would get all these materials from Biodent labs. Look up Biodent labs on the google search about this. Iv'e learned that even the cements and bonding agents can be toxic if you get the wrong kind and from the wrong lab. Even the dentists don't know which are safe and which aren't most of the time. So its best to do your own research.

God bless you, and hope the best for you!


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