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Composite Fillings are Evil #68107
08/15/12 08:24 PM
08/15/12 08:24 PM
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Raji  Offline OP
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Few weeks back i posted about my wife's hair loss.
She used to have thick black hair.
She has amalgam fillings from early 2000 and it never bothered
her..
Couple of years back she had 3 composite fillings(1 at the back where she chews).
After couple of months, she complained about Grey hair.I just ignored it..Then, afterwards hair loss started with lot of dandruff.
Her hair loss is Weird..When she takes Iron..her hair loss decreases for few days and then increases. She takes a tablet like Vitamin C, her hair loss decreased for 3 weeks and immediately increases..
Me and my wife were going mad..She drinks soft drink,swallows more saliva..more hair loss..she drinks coffee, more hair loss.She takes vitamin D3 2000..more hair loss.
It's like hell figuring out why it's happening.
When i started reading the forums, everyone told me about mercury..But, my wife never had problems with Mercury.then, i thought may be the body is unable to dump the mercury and it started accumulating.
But, she doesn't have any mercury symptoms(other than hair loss).All the tests are good(including harmones).
I thought i will change from mercury to composite fillings.
I went to biological dentist and he told that the teeth that has composite fillings is badly done..in fact,there is nothing that showed it was filled..the top part is completely gone.
When he filled the composite fillings correctly, my wife's hair loss got little bit better.
The problem is it did so much damage, when she did anything like chewing food.more hair loss.
Basically,her amalgams had to be replaced as the more she is chewing..more hair loss.
I am sure the hair loss is not caused by amalgams as she was chewing the food when she took vitamin c..at that time, there was no hair loss.
Now..amalgams are replaced with composite fillings except couple of them.Still couple of them left.It will be done within a week.

I read few females reported similarly when they took birth control pills and stopped it.
Composite fillings acts as fake estrogen and it will have negative impact if you are harmone sensitive.
I also read that it behaves sometimes positive and sometimes in negative way(can't predict when it can turn from positive to negative)

Please dont use composite fillings if you are OK with mercury fillings.
One filling completely screwed it.

This is really pain..Before white fillings starts degrade..can anyone suggest what we should do..
Sometimes..we feel that getting the teeth extracted is the best option(but..she has 9 cavities)

What i should do............
Is porcelain better option..

My intention is not to scare you..The bottom line is everything is toxic.
People can withstand mercury and not Composite fillings...
When you have both..you will be screwed figuring out.

I will say this..There will be forum created in few years about how evil composite fillings are.

Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Greetings! [Re: Raji] #68112
08/16/12 07:52 PM
08/16/12 07:52 PM
Abigail  Offline
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Originally Posted by Raji
Few weeks back i posted about my wife's hair loss.
She used to have thick black hair.
She has amalgam fillings from early 2000 and it never bothered
her..
When i started reading the forums, everyone told me about mercury..But, my wife never had problems with Mercury.then, i thought may be the body is unable to dump the mercury and it started accumulating.
But, she doesn't have any mercury symptoms(other than hair loss).All the tests are good(including harmones).

I am sure the hair loss is not caused by amalgams as she was chewing the food when she took vitamin c..at that time, there was no hair loss.
Now..amalgams are replaced with composite fillings except couple of them.Still couple of them left.It will be done within a week.

Please dont use composite fillings if you are OK with mercury fillings.
One filling completely screwed it.

This is really pain..Before white fillings starts degrade..can anyone suggest what we should do..
Sometimes..we feel that getting the teeth extracted is the best option(but..she has 9 cavities)

What i should do............
Is porcelain better option..


Greetings Raji!
I am terribly sorry to hear about your wife's hair problem. Perhaps her main problem has nothing whatsoever to do with the amalgams.

I know of several people who have Thyroid trouble and that causes hair loss, for sure. Has she ever had her thyroid checked?

My husband just had three composite fillings put in. He feels fine and no problembs with the hair loss. Everybody's body is different.
There are several companies that have special information on hair loss and the best supplement to use for that. For instance <www.vrp.com> is a high quality Vitamin Research Company. Russ uses some of their products as you see on the side panels. The DMSA is a wonderful metal detox supplement.

Don't give up. I feel your pain. The frustration is overwhelming in that you are a very kind and wonderful husband to want to help your wife so much. It really seems as if her condition is NOT the amalgams, but something inside her body causing the hair loss, etc.

Sometimes we can be told so much information that it begins making us think, "Oh, I have that! (or) Those are my symptoms exactly". You have probably read the list of symptoms Russ has and we can't really say it's all because of Mercury. There's no test for that. I had the bloodwork done, then told that is not accurate! The saliva test was suggested, and I was told the FDA no longer allows that. Then we hear of the 'hair analysis.' The list is overwhelming, to say the least.

We all begin having gray hair some earlier than others. One lady friend had much gray hair and a very noticeable receeding hair line and she was only 31 years old, and the problem was diagnosed as low thyroid.

Keep us updated. We all care and have followed your reports online here.


Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Greetings! [Re: Abigail] #68113
08/17/12 10:39 AM
08/17/12 10:39 AM
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Raji  Offline OP
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Thanks for your reply.
Did lot of tests(Iron,Ferritin,Hormone,Thyroid).
Doctors don't have a clue.
She never took any birth control pills.
Her reaction is similar to few people that took birth control pills.
The only thing is she has composite fillings.
I know everything is fine for your husband.
I believe the problem will come for people that are Hormone sensitive.
Do anyone know alternatives?
Please suggest.

Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Greetings! [Re: Raji] #68114
08/17/12 12:05 PM
08/17/12 12:05 PM
Abigail  Offline
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Originally Posted by Raji
Thanks for your reply.
Did lot of tests(Iron,Ferritin,Hormone,Thyroid).
Doctors don't have a clue.
She never took any birth control pills.
Her reaction is similar to few people that took birth control pills.
The only thing is she has composite fillings.
I know everything is fine for your husband.
I believe the problem will come for people that are Hormone sensitive.
Do anyone know alternatives?
Please suggest.

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Hello Raji,
I'm sorry but I'm not understanding your question. So, I am posting two possible answers, if you're asking if there are other kinds of fillings available.....

-What Types of Filling Materials Are Available?
Today, several dental filling materials are available. Teeth can be filled with gold; porcelain; silver amalgam (which consists of mercury mixed with silver, tin, zinc, and copper); or tooth-colored, plastic, and glass materials called composite resin fillings. The location and extent of the decay, cost of filling material, patients' insurance coverage, and your dentist's recommendation assist in determining the type of filling best for you.

Here is this WWW <http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/guide/dental-health-fillings>
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-This site is from Female Hair Loss---
<http://portlandhairsolutions.com/female_hair_loss.html>

----As I was closing I noted this website also, something is bound to help. Just know your wife is NOT the only woman having this problem.

<http://www.vzbotanicals.com/overcomefemalehairloss.html>
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Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Greetings! [Re: Abigail] #68116
08/17/12 02:13 PM
08/17/12 02:13 PM
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Raji  Offline OP
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 22
Thank you.
Looks like Ceramic fillings are costly.
I will research more on this.

Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Greetings! [Re: Raji] #68123
08/17/12 07:21 PM
08/17/12 07:21 PM
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Raji  Offline OP
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 22
Can the composite fillings be removed temporarily for 2 weeks.
Did anyone test like this..

Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Greetings! [Re: Raji] #68126
08/18/12 01:07 PM
08/18/12 01:07 PM
Abigail  Offline
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Originally Posted by Raji
Can the composite fillings be removed temporarily for 2 weeks.
Did anyone test like this..

Hello again, Raji! smile

Why not ask your wife's doctor some of these questions? No offense, but we DO NOT know all that your wife is and isn't doing or taking for supplements, etc.

It certainly seems like you can remove or refill anything, any time. This certainly seems like it is most stressful on your wife. My heavens! Call her Dentist. Get the story, and tell him all your concerns. Russ has given you most of his insight and I have referred you to the Dental website and hair loss websites.

I am sorry that you seem overly stressed yourself. I am a Christian. If you are, "Jesus said live one day at time, for today has enough evil of its own."

Try to calm down. What does your wife say in this matter? Pray about it. Jesus does answer prayers. We all need HIM.


Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Maybe allergic to composite? [Re: Abigail] #68130
08/19/12 11:51 AM
08/19/12 11:51 AM
Abigail  Offline
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- fyi
-Hello Raji, I see you are still trying to find information regarding your wife's teeth situation. Composite Fillings are NOT EVIL.

Your wife may be allergic to the composite.
So I have been searching some other websites. Perhaps this one will better help you.

<http://www.ehow.com/how_2209208_compare-silver-alloy-gold-porcelain.html>

You can scroll down to the bottom to find this out. Have you tried searching the internet for specific topics? Such as the one mentioned above? We are trying to help you and your wife. Please understand this forum is basically for the subjects mentioned, and help is given as we know best. Some people require Specialists in Dental care. This may be your wife's case. We sincerely care.


Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Maybe allergic to composite? [Re: Raji] #68263
08/31/12 08:38 AM
08/31/12 08:38 AM
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Raji  Offline OP
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Posts: 22
Hi,

I understand where you are coming from.
I was posting in many forms.
Few posters(especially women)were having similar issue..
Ie.,reacting to the supplements immediately.
All of them used Birth Control Pills.
Birth Control Pills have excess estrogen(Xensotrogens).
Even when they stopped it..it continued.
Some of the bodies can't handle it.

In case of my wife, there was never an issue with Mercury.
Now..also..there are no mercury symptoms.
I can see many people having issues with mercury.
I think..it's very rare to have issues with composite.

ADA themselves said that the saliva can release small amounts of BPA and it's safe.
I think..some women might be having these issues.
But,they might not know that it's due to Composite Fillings.

There is nothing else happened(except having composite fillings).
I will research more on this..But, I am pretty sure it caused it.

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http://www.ada.org/1766.aspx

The ADA is a professional association of dentists committed to the public’s oral health. As such, the ADA supports ongoing research on the safety of existing dental materials and in the development of new materials. Based on current research the Association agrees with the authoritative government agencies that the low-level of BPA exposure that may result from dental sealants and composites poses no known health threat.

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Can you please tell me how much porcelain is going to cost?

Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Cost for porcelain? [Re: Raji] #68264
08/31/12 10:19 AM
08/31/12 10:19 AM
Abigail  Offline
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(Raji posted)
Can you please tell me how much porcelain is going to cost?

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Hello Raji,
I hope your wife is feeling much better. I have been online on several sights, this is all I can find for now. You may have already checked. But you REALLY NEED TO ASK HER DENTIST, my friend.
Below is just about all we can get without her/ you asking her Dentist......Have you asked her Dentist?

-----------------

star Porcelain inlays, which require much more labor to produce, cost considerably more than composites. According to the Consumer Guide to Dentistry, porcelain inlays can cost anywhere between $250 and $1,500, depending on the extent of the decay and the difficulty of the application


Read more: Resin Composite Vs. Porcelain Inlay | eHow.com <http://www.ehow.com/info_12229187_resin-composite-vs-porcelain-inlay.html#ixzz258INO835>


Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Cost for porcelain? [Re: Abigail] #68270
08/31/12 06:27 PM
08/31/12 06:27 PM
Abigail  Offline
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Hello Raji,

I was reading several websites information and there were a few that are Dermotologist Sepecialists.

How do you like that? One fellow said there are over 100 reasons that can cause hair loss. I'm sorry I didn't get the link, maybe later you can check into it? It just might be we are looking for "causes" in the wrong places! unsure

You have already ruled out the blood tests, mercury toxicity, and a few others. Sorry, I'm in a bit of a hurry. Just want you to be informed that your dear wife may need to see a Dermotologist???
Try not to let the possible reasons be disturbing to you. I wouldn't give any thought to the hormonal estrogen one, unless you have her see her Gynecologist.
Take care, have a good weekend and hello to your wife.


Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Cost for porcelain? [Re: Raji] #68276
09/01/12 02:13 AM
09/01/12 02:13 AM
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Raji  Offline OP
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Posts: 22
Hi,

Till now,i visited GP,3 Dermatologists, 2 Endo and 2 natural doctors.
All the results are normal. No one knows why it's happening.

If i tell the below things, they are not believing it :

1) Vitamin D3 (2000)/Iron more than 20 mg -- More hair loss
2) Multi Vitamin,BSM,Vitamin C
Hair loss reduces immediately
for few weeks..then picks it up.
3) When she chews food,Drinks coffee -- More hair loss
This doesn't happen all the time.
For instance..when she was taking multivitamin..no matter how much she chews..her hair loss is less.
4) When she stops taking all supplements together..her hair loss
is reduced for few weeks,then it picks it up.

If i tell the above things to anyone..i know no one is going to believe it..Basically.she became so sensitive and the only thing that is effecting now is her hair.

Before the composite fillings..she used to take supplements,chew food..nothing used to happen.

Each body chemistry is different..Here people complain about mercury being poison..Nothing was happening to her..She was fine.

One more thing..she took RU-486 pill for one day(medical abortion) around 2010.I researched a lot on that and there are no side effects(especially the hair loss i described above).

The only thing i can think of is Composite Fillings and its Xenostrogens.
Why i am thinking like this..because,some women in hair loss forums experienced close to similar conditions once they took birth control pills for longer periods of time..It messed their hormones.
I am not sure..if it is reason unless i replace them.
My wife stopped worrying about it.
I will look for options of replacing white fillings if it still continue.

Have a nice weekend and thank you for taking time in replying.

Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Cost for porcelain? [Re: Raji] #68277
09/01/12 10:40 AM
09/01/12 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Raji
Hi,

One more thing..she took RU-486 pill for one day(medical abortion) around 2010.I researched a lot on that and there are no side effects(especially the hair loss i described above).
---
deepconsideration
-What They're Not Telling You Could Kill You
Drug RU-486 is lethal to mother and child!

Raji, Please go to the Abortion Forum on this website and read this article. You are getting poor information from other sources. Posted on August 5, 2011.

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My wife stopped worrying about it.
I will look for options of replacing white fillings if it still continue.

Have a nice weekend and thank you for taking time in replying.

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Your wife is wise to "stop worrying about it." May I suggest the same for you, Raji? Are you just naturally a 'worrying person"? No offense. This forum is posted for helping those with Mercury Toxicity. We also care and try to help others in differnt areas of this forum. Evidently this is not the place for your wife's condition. YOU, on the other hand need to calm down and may I suggest prayer to Jesus? Don't laugh that off. He saved me from a brain-anneurysm. He can certaianly help those who trust in Him. May the Lord Jesus lead you.



Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." [John 14:6]
Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Cost for porcelain? [Re: Abigail] #68280
09/01/12 07:49 PM
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Raji  Offline OP
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Thank you..I stopped worrying about it couple of weeks back as i realized it's not in my hands.
Yes..God is the only hope.Hopefully, he will answer my prayers.

Re: Composite Fillings are Evil/ Cost for porcelain? [Re: Raji] #68748
10/15/12 05:57 AM
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Raji, very sorry to hear of your predicament. I'm wondering if it is possible now that your wife has another chemical in her mouth alongside the amalgam, that the mercury still in her (both amalgam and body), is weakening her to be more suspeptible to the composites and create reactions that may not normally occur if she did not have amalgam/mercury? Do consider that possibility....

Because I was mercury toxic, I was hypersensitive to the composites, but became less so and more healthy are I got all the amalgams out and then detoxed. These days I am sicker again, because I never fully detoxified from mercury and developed a bacterial infection and other problems. But before this, I was seriously starting to heal!

Ceramic is highly expensive, but will last up to a lifetime. It does contain aluminium oxide, which may or may not be an issue in some people. Depends on whether it can leach out at all. I am not certain on this. It may also depend on how many are done. Perhaps too much of a good thing (or bad thing) is where people get tipped over the edge. Sometimes it just takes one extra problem to tip a person over.

Do consider however, that though your wife may have seemed better with the amalgam, that the added and different material from the composites may only be causing more of an issue, because she is dealing with more than one type of toxin at once now. Mercury has a habit of weakening and sensitising people to things they would not normally have a problem with. It can also continue to occur until the mercury is not only removed from the mouth, but detoxed from the body system/tissues.

Another example is people who get gold mixed with amalgam and suddenly find big big problems. Again, it's the potent mix of different metals in the same mouth that compounds the problem and both can set the other off.

It is very difficult for all of us, because every dental material has its own chemicals/toxins. So I do understand and sympathise with your plight.

Also, having amalgam removed/replaced is also risky, because the person is receiving a greater exposure to the mercury now that it's been displaced as it's being removed. That can also make a person worse, especially if they do not receive appropriate protection during removal and nutritional and dietry support at the sametime and thereafter.







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