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question for Bex
#8707
06/14/06 07:34 AM
06/14/06 07:34 AM
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Bex, could you tell me what symptoms you have from your cavities and how long it took for them to come after your wisdom teeth were pulled. Thanks
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Re: question for Bex
#8708
06/14/06 08:20 AM
06/14/06 08:20 AM
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Hi Dawn, they're called cavitations. I did not know they existed and thought people meant cavities. But then I found out what they were. I didn't know that after a tooth had been extracted, that a cavitation in the jaw can occur from the area not healing properly and then it harbours potent bacteria, which can then spread into the rest of the body.
My symptoms happened very quickly if I recall. But again, it could have been mercury from the dental office itself, or a combination. I do know that things were far worse than I ever had before, even with mercury.
A debilitating fatigue, mercury symptoms far worse, reactions to any supplements ,being injured easily by any little mistakes I might make. One little thing goes wrong and I can remain almost crippled from then on.
So i knew it was more than mercury at work. This is why I cannot heal properly I think. But going into a dental office, which I've done recently, has further poisoned me just by being in there and I'm now dealing with that on top of everything. Which is tipping me over the edge.
Pity the dentist didn't get me in on one go and do the cavitation job there and then. He might have saved me from unecessary further exposure. Now I can't do anything.
But there are really no clear cut answers. It's insidious and very hard to tell what is doing what.
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Re: question for Bex
#8709
06/14/06 09:00 AM
06/14/06 09:00 AM
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Do you get jaw/facial pain. I went to a holistic dentist and had 4 teeth extracted, they didnt remove the ligament, just the tooth, i only have mercury symptoms at the moment, i dont know about the future. If i got trouble with it, would i have to go to a oral surgeon and be operated on, would they have to open it all up again. I know about the cavitate machine, im not sure if NHS here in Uk use them. Also i know someone who has an absess that keeps reocurring, and is given antibiotics for it, is this a cavitation? Sorry about the long post and questions! People who have all their teeth taken out, like my dad, he had them taken out just normally without the ligament being removed, he never got cavitations, does it only happen in some people? Thanks.
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Re: question for Bex
#8710
06/14/06 10:21 AM
06/14/06 10:21 AM
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HI, I think cavitations are very common and occur in most people when the tooth has been removed. But I think it depends whether the area has a lot of hidden bacteria and whether the immune system is strong enough to hold the bacteria in the one place, or whether the immune system has taken too many knocks and can no longer hold the bacteria back and it can then spread.
So sometimes a person might have not much sign of cavitation, yet have big problems. I had no facial pain at all, no external signals, just the internal toxicity.
Some people do get external symptoms of pain, swelling, outer infection etc. But at least in some respects it's obvious and can be easily spotted. Not sure about an abscess, I thought that was from an infected tooth. But could well be more a cavitation also. It should not keep recurring and a dentist should be taking care of the underlning problem with your friend. That's unreal!
If you feel that there is a problem, you could get them opened upa nd cleaned out by a dentist or oral surgeon at some point, who is experienced and will do it properly and thoroughly and not allow for recurrence. Some can recur and have to be redone. I wish I had never had my wisdom teeth removed.
But you could just concentrate for now on reducing mercury and see how you go with that before considering cavitations. I think it's overwhelming to try and grapple with all these issues that these dentists have created. They have a lot to answer for.
P.S. cavitations do not always show up on xrays, they are hard to detect. Some do, but can be vague. So not easy to diagnose.
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Climing walls from PAIN
#8711
06/23/06 04:45 PM
06/23/06 04:45 PM
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I am in so much pain right now that I am taking Headache Formula every few hours or so. Its active ingredients are Acetaminophen 250 mg, Aspirin 250 mg, and Caffeine 65 mg. Probably not the best staff to take, however, the pain in the left side of my face was so intense that I could not fall asleep last night, forcing me to go to the store at 4 in the morning in search of relief. I think that the cause of this pain is my wisdom tooth. I had the first one removed last summer, leaving one to extract for this summer. I was planning on doing it overseas, but the pain right now is so bad that I cannot go without the Headache Formula. I have 9 days left until I leave. Should I wait and continue taking Headache Formula for at least 10 more days, or should I just pay big bucks now and get my wisdom tooth extracted. I am now aware of cavitations and I am going to read the book “Beyond Amalgam..” , but how can one avoid extraction when the wisdom tooth like mine is turned sideways (I have the x-ray) and is now growing in the direction of my bottom teeth and is pressing on them and with all the associated nerves on that whole side. I think that I never felt anything worse than what I am feeling now. I am in so much pain. Here AHHHHHHH. Seriously, I need some advice on what to do. I can’t chelate until I get rid of this pain. Bex wrote that that was the worst decision to get wisdom teeth extracted, but what can a person in my situation do. Live in pain? I have to extract it and worry about cavitations later. What should I do? Are there doctors who extract wisdom teeth who are committed to doing so with much caution so as not to produce cavitations in the person. Bex, Russ, anyone. Please help. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Climing walls from PAIN
#8713
06/24/06 04:07 PM
06/24/06 04:07 PM
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Hi Rebecca. I will follow your advice on finding the right biologic dentist. Hopefully, I can find one who will have openings next week as that is the last week for me in the US until I leave overseas. So it’s ok to take painkillers for a while which is good considering that I can’t be without them. I was taking vitamin c, but now I will take more. Thank you for that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Climing walls from PAIN
#8714
06/27/06 09:35 PM
06/27/06 09:35 PM
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Just an update. I had my tooth extracted by a biological dentitist earlier today. I would have to give it two big thumbs up. I did not feel any pain nor any now. In America you get what you pay for. This is so true althoug not always. I did not pay the dentist overseas as he extracted my wisdom tooth, and I was in much pain the following week, dreading the next pull. But here in the states i payed $$$$ and got the best possible service. I love America. I am so happy. Thanks all. Chelation is just a few days away. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Pain Relief , I feel better, and i hope to feel this way forever!
#8716
06/28/06 01:15 AM
06/28/06 01:15 AM
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Hi Bex! Yea, during this prolonged pain episode I think I learned some things, namely that when one is in pain, one is less critical and less deliberative of the available solutions in question. So, I was at a point where I would have gone to see any doctor (biological or non-biological) to rid myself of the immediately felt pain. Luckily, I called the dentist who removed my amalgam to see him, then after emergency examination the following day, he referred me to somebody who is even better at such procedure and who is probably better in my particular situation anyways. I am fortunate to surround myself with these guys, but the big thanks really goes to the people on this and other like this forums where good thoughts and advices are being made! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Climing walls from PAIN
#8718
07/12/06 02:46 PM
07/12/06 02:46 PM
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Hi Alex!,
I'm so glad that you had good results from American Dentists, but I hate to bust your bubble about Dentisry in America.Here is my experience. One of the 1st dentists filled almost every tooth with toxic mercury and other heavy metals even when I feelt I didn't need any dental work, over a 25 year period. The 2nd dentist replace 10 of my fillings with composites that weren't sealed, so they all turned black and decayed in a period of 2 years. The 3rd dentist was a biological dentist that removed all the mercury , other heavy metals, and white composites but replaced them all with toxic white composites in almost everyone of my teeth. He also caused cronic excusiating pain ( called Lingual and Inferior alveolar nerve damage) all here in AMERICA!!!
My whole life has been consumed mainIy by cronic illnesses and excusiating pain, due to corrupted dental practices. I learned through the school of hard knocks that the dental society wouldn't help me, the courts wouldn't help me, I couldn't even find an Attorney to take any of my cases. I believe that the Dentists, Dental labs, ADA, Pharmaceutical Co.s, FDA, and alot of other organizations are all incohoots with eachother to make you sick so they can all get rich and enjoy life off of all our sufferings!!!
I love America for other reasons, but not for this. I use to love everything about America before I found out that the dentists that implanted these toxic time bombs in my head were sentencing me to die right from the get go when I recieved my first mercury amalgam filling at the age of 6 or 7. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
You will know alot more after my book gets completed and published!
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