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Hi everyone. Your Dr. stories are so funny. Yes, good thing we can still retain our senses of humor!

I went back to the holistic dentist and he gave me my estimate $7,500!!!! I knew it was going to be a lot but I just about died.

Then, to make matters worse he said he doesn not recommend taking out my abcessed root canal, but to re-treat it or get a titanium implant because if you just pull a tooth out you will have a lot of bone loss in the jaw. He said if I insist on having it out I should have bone graft - it will help my body with the bone loss.

I am terrified. This sounds so crazy to me. Has anyone had a bone graft before?

Thanks,
spiderbaby

$7500,that's not that bad try $10,000,that does not include redoing my root canal or pulling the tooth.

I don't know anything about your dentist, but I saw two dentists (both supposedly knowing about the mercury issue) and one advised against removing my root canal treated tooth, where as the other believed it had to come out and the bone cleaned. Maybe you could get a second opinion? If you're not happy with this dentist, or you have a gut feeling he's milking you, then it might be worth seeing someone else for comparison.

HI Strenth, Demi and Bex - thanks for the replies! I feel like I am so confused right now I cannot think of anything but my teeth. This isn't helped by the fact that I have a horrible taste in my mouth and my tongue feels kinda numb. I just can't get my mind on anything else. I even had a dream last night about my teeth all falling out. Jeez, I kinda wish they would just fall out along with all the mercury. Maybe I could get my life back. I am seeing a psychologist for my depression and panic attacks. She said tell me exactly how you feel. I told her I feel poisoned. She said not to let my mouth speak negative things because the body is very susceptible to what you speak. I should just say things like, "I feel better today than yesterday" or "I am getting better". It is so hard when I am in so much pain and I am so exhausted.

Do you ever feel like you can't think of anything besides mercury? Thanks for listening - it is nice to have others who know what it is like. spiderbaby

All i think about is mercury because it has ruined my life in so many ways, ie, money, quality of life with my children, although i am grateful that they are old enough to look after themselves, my children are 12and14yrs, socialising with friends, (no-one rings me up to go out anymore) etc. Its a nightmare, i want to wake up!

i think about mercury all the time to i think its hard not to but i do think it makes symptoms worse somtimes my kids are only little still babys but there the reason why i get up out of bed every morning so they make life worth living

Hi Spiderbaby, been there and done that. If you feel the psychiatry helps, that is great. But I can tell you one thing, when you are poisoned by something thatt poisons your brain (or liver that can give you brain symptoms)and you can try all you want to think happy thoughts and you're fighting against a toxin, not yourself.

The best thing you can do is not put pressure on yourself to think in a way you cannot think when your brain is toxic. Psychiatrists will tell you all manner of things and say you are being negative or you are hurting yourself by thinking this or that. But I know from myself, I am not a negative person but a poisoned person who when I have a good day, the positive thoughts come completely natural.

So, to let you know, don't put pressure on yourself to think in a way that can sometimes be impossible with this poison. If you can, ok, but don't worry if you cannot. It's not YOU, it's the toxins. It's like trying to psycholanalyse the toxins into being "nice and positive".

When you are truly sick, you cannot stop thinking about the sickness. It's the way sick people are, it's on their minds 24/7. Healthy people do not do this, sick people do. When they get well, they forget about sickness and live as anybody else does.

You are simply a puppet trying to fight against a poison. Not saying it's bad to try and be positive, but letting you know, it can be impossible with this stuff. It's not like having a broken leg or having some other kind of sickness where the mind is not infiltrated and penetrated by a neurotoxin!

You won't be able to stop thinking about mercury, because it is LITERALLY on your mind! You're completely normal, IT isn't.

I thought about mercury all the time when I first learnt about it, but now I don't. I find it only makes me depressed, so I try to think about other things. Also I have other things in my life besides the mercury that are stressing me out (although mercury is probably responsible for some of those aswell) and health issues that I don't think are mercury related but mpact me, mostly psychologically.

I try not to think that mercury has ruined my life because I like to think there is something out there worth living for and that all will work towards some ultimate good if I can find the strength inside myself to get through. I try not to think of the life I could have had if I hadn't of been poisoned as a child, or if my mother hadn't been poisoned, because I ultimately don't know that this mercury thing hasn't worked to my benefit in some way i.e. if I hadn't of got poisoned I could have got myself into messes that because of my anxiety I avoided. I know it's not much to hold onto, but it's just my way of coping with things.

I've had a lot of difficult things happen in my life, not all mercury related, and I just try to cope with everything as best as I can. Considering I have an anxiety disorder, I think I've done ok, as I think some of the things I've been through would have been too much for normal people. I try not to get bitter and blame others for my problems. I also try not to blame myself, or God, and just accept my situation and get on with things. But I do get bouts of major depression and thinking that nothing good is ever going to happen, and I don't think all that is mercury related. I just fight those feelings and try to find something to look forward too, even if it's just to rent a video or buy a new book or plan a holiday. I think that everyone goes through difficult times and we can come out stronger and better if we find the strength in ourselves. I think it's great for those who have supportive partners, I really wish I did, but learning to lean on ourselves and God is perhaps an even greater strength, I don't know.

Hi Spiderbaby,

I believe your dentist is full of bolony. First of all root canals are toxic to the body and can cause degenerative deseases much like mercury. Read the book, ROOT CANAL COVER UP, by George E. Meinig. They might even have this book in the library.

2nd accordinally to Dr. Huggins Implants aren't safe either, even if they are made out of titanium. For most people, Titanium is safe when it is not in side the gums. So I wouldn't get implants.

Yes you will get bone loss from a pulled tooth, but it will only be where that tooth is located. So its not a big deal if you don't get a whole bunch pulled out. People who have dentures have bone loss everywhere and usually you can tell just by looking at them. They have hollow cheeks. Unfortunately bone loss from getting too many teeth pulled, makes most people age rappedly as well.

1 tooth shouldn't make much of a difference on your appearance though. But for every tooth that was pulled, my face got skinnier and older looking as far as my appearance goes!!! This may have to do with the bone structure of my face. I had a long thin face with high check bones to begin with, but I always looked young for my age until now. Now I look about 15 years older around the mouth area especially. Iv'e seen people who originally had round facial features that lost all their teeth, got dentures, but still looked young and with less hollow cheeks than I have.

I don't want to discourage you, but I don't want to lie to you either. I'm only telling you this because most dentists won't warn you about this. Mine didn't. I knew what I was going to look like before I got all those teeth pulled because I researched it before hand. Good thing I did or else I wasn't going to be prepared when it happened. It took about 3 months to really see the difference.

Although I'm extremely angry as far as my appearance is concerned, I am glad to be alive since I got all my root filled teeth pulled out along with all the other cavitations and other toxic dental materials. Even with bridges I seen bone loss happen since the bone is no longer there.

I think this dentist is just trying to make extra money on you by telling you that you would need a bone graft. I don't think you would just for a little bone loss from 1 tooth.

My suggestion is like everyone else; go to another dentist!!!
I hope the best for you!!!

How true, I thought I was the only one who was like that....my holistic dentist wants me to keep my root canals and get them cleaned out and redone....$$$$$$$, no friggin' way, I will go to Mexico and get them out if I have to, and have a holiday to boot!!! I wish I had stuck to my guns and had them all pulled out, I would have saved at least 10 thousand dollars.

HI Scarlet, could you tell me how many teeth are missing in your mouth. I have 6 teeth missing now, and my appearance has changed slightly. They are all back teeth, i have all my front teeth and if i smile you cant see that the back ones are missing. I had no choice because most of them were root canaled and 2 of them were really decayed. My dentist says that it could be a problem in later years, that the teeth that are there will get weak because of chewing. These days i tend to eat soft food.

My mom, who is almost 80, has none of her back teeth and is doing fine. She has no problems with missing these teeth, she has been missing them for YEARS, and she is in better health than I am. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hi Dallas and Dawn,

Dallas,

I'm glad to hear that this 80 year old women was not affected as I was. I wished I had the same results but I didn't!!! I look very old and my face looks like a skeleton. I use to be very attractive and very young looking for my age only 3 years ago. Not anymore!!! My fiances mother had dentures and looks young but she had a round face to begin with.

I believe I look so bad because I had thin long facial features to begin with, with high cheek bones. People with these type of features tend to look older when they get bone loss. An aquaintance I know looks just as bad as I do since he lost his teeth at an early age and has the same kind of features. Also the younger you are, the more bone loss will affect your appearance. 45 is very young to be loosing your teeth. If you get dentures in your 60s for example, than it's not suppose to affect your appearance as much, since loosing your teeth at an old age is more natural than if you were younger.

Whether your appearance is affected or not, your life matters so much more so I highly recommend that all root canaled teeth be pulled and cavitated!!! I know that bone loss is a depressing subject, I'm only trying to inform people because they have a right to know everything. Also it is better to be prepared than unprepared when something like this may happen.

Dawn,

I have 11 teeth missing counting the wisdom teeth. Theres a long history that would take a book to explain as to how I not only got bone loss from these teeth that are missing, but also bone loss from the teeth that are still in my mouth.

My immune system was so low from my acidic PH that it mad my saliva acidic and therefore it ate away at the enamal and decayed all the teeth. This caused receeding gums and therefore bone loss from decay forming around the gum line. This was due to mercury amalgam and heavy metal toxicity. I had such a severe case of it that approximately 5-8 dentist refused to work on me.

I had 17 amalgams in my mouth for about 25 years. I also had porcelain crowns on top of most of these amalgams which aren't porcelain at all. Porcelain is really made out of 45% alluminum oxide, also the inside of each crown was lined with nickel . Both of these are highly toxic and leach out into your body just like mercury!!!. I also had 1 gold crown to top it off. A perfect environment to make you very sick through the years and enough disimilar metals to cause electroylysis. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

This was caused from one of my first dentists who was mainly responsible for placing all thoughs toxic metals in my mouth. The 2nd dentist was responsible for not sealing about 8 fillings and 2 crowns. He also did an unfinished root canal and fractured the tooth right beside it causing it to abcess during the same procedure. All the teeth he worked on all turned black in a period of about 2 years. Most of them were in the front. The 3rd bioological dentist got out all the toxic metals safely, but replaced them all with toxic white composites and he also caused excusiatingly painful Lingual and InferiorAlveolar nerve damage.

Dawn, I have a tooth missing on the top, lower, right, left, and 3 in the front, but count it as all of my teeth missing since I have bone loss even where there are teeth!

I'm glad you didn't get as much bone loss as I did. I don't believe that your teeth will get as weak as the dentist said they would. My fiance has 9 teeth missing including the wisdom teeth and has no problem eating crunchy foods. His teeth still feel strong after 8 years too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The way I make sure anyone is right, I research it on google search and various books only by Alternative medicine doctors, dentists, and people. I strongly believe that mainstream medicine is desighned to make you sicker so that they get richer!!! Iv'e been going to mainstream dentists all my life and look where it got me! I will never believe any doctor or dentist even if they claim to be alternative, until I have researched what they say throughly first, and also their reputation as well!!!

Good luck, Dawn!!!

Thanks Scarlet, you certainly have had your share of dental problems.
I have 6 molars missing, basically i have 3 quadrants with no molars. I have 2 molars on the bottom right. I dont remember having 3rd molars or wisdom teeth.
Scarlet, do you know if its true that a cavitation can decay the teeth next to it.

I have just read that wisdom teeth can come through between the age of 17 and 25. I dont remember getting any.

Dawn, many, many people have impacted wisdom teeth and there is no room for them to come in, so they don't. In my case, I had two impacted wisdom teeth and they were removed. The other two wisdom teeth never formed.

My bottom wisdom teeth began to appear around the age of 28 and older. They were slightly impacted, but nothing was wrong with them and I had NO problems. Stupidly enough, I went to a dentist to have them checked and she said I should have them out in case they created problems down the line becuase they were not completely exposed, but partially.

They were removed and they were perfect teeth, fully formed, straight and I wondered if I had made a mistake, but thought no more of it. Later down the line, my health is now virtually destroyed and I lost weight and have had nothing but illness. Do I attribute it to the removal? I don't know, but suspect it has played a role.

So this dentist, far from preventing problems, probably created them and got paid to do so.

Hi Dawn,

Iv'e never heard that a cavitation is suppose to decay the tooth next to it. Who did you get this information from? It sounds like you got this information from a regular mainstream dentist. If so, they don't believe that you need cavitations.

But what I found that if you don't have them, bacteria around the bone will go into your body and make you sickly almost like a root canaled tooth. That is why I believe that cavitations and pulling out root canaled teeth are very necessary!. I only listen to the Alternative, holistic, bological, naturopathic, etc dentists and doctors that care about your health!

In most cases, mainstream dentists is usually the whole reason why were on this forum to begin with. Therefore I believe it is dangerous to take their advise!!!

Please note: that you can't trust every natural dentist or doctor either until you have checked them out. Alot claim that they are natural but aren't intirely. I believe it is your best bet to call natural dentists and doctors only. Then after you have found one do your research to see if he is really what he says he is.

Good luck!

Thanks Scarlet for the info. I read about cavitations causing other teeth problems from websites. i think i have been to every website on cavitations now! They all say different things, its confusing.
My dentist is quite good i think, i use the same one as Demi, in London.

This is a five star thread for sure!!! Thanks to you all.

Sandi
xoxo

Has anyone actually had cavitations done? My new holistic dentist is really big into them. I have no idea what to expect or if I should have them done at all.

Thanks for the advice!

If you remove the tooth properly you will not have bone loss. This guy is not holistic if he is selling titanium implants, more likely he is out to make money. If you got to a properly trained dentist..see www.iaomt.org to find one, they will pull the tooth and clean the socket of all infected tissue, and then it will heal fine. Bone grafts are like science fiction. Your body can grown its own bone as long as the infected material is removed.

Boy am I happy to hear that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ...my worries have been relieved immensely, I think I am making myself sick from worry!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Hi Scarlet. Yeh, my face now has sunken hollow cheeks - maybe this is from not laughing enough for so long. But I decided in 2002 to have all of my teeth yanked out that had ever been touched by a dentist. I only have the 6 lower front teeth left. I had spent a fortune on my teeth - 7 root canals with crowns, many huge amalgam fillings - but I had also lost a molar with each pregnancy due to nerve death and extraction. My teeth kept moving due to the missing teeth. The space between my two front teeth just kept getting bigger and bigger. I'm allergic to metal touching my skin - can't wear jewelry, watches, or metal eyeglass frames. I had read all of the mercury poisoning horrors on the internet and decided I wanted all of the poison and metal out of my mouth. A tooth is an organ - when it is dead, it should be removed! Once a tooth has a root canal - it is dead. I don't care if my face is sunken and my beautiful full lips are now much smaller on top. I couldn't wait to have them all yanked out. I have never regretted it - I just feel liberated! No bad breath anymore either. It comes from bacteria around the teeth. My husband has peridontal disease. His gums have been devoured by bacteria - all of his teeth are longer now since gums have receded so much, and his breath smells just like a BM! He doesn't have any fillings, but he got his first root canal a couple of years ago. I told him - big mistake. Just get them all yanked out. All of the bacteria in his mouth is really tough on his immune system. He has many allergies now too. I have the most perfect, white teeth now - with a total top denture and a bottom partial denture. I told the dentist that I did not want any metal bands for my partial - I just glue them it place. I had my dentures made by a special dentist that only makes protheses - so they fit great and I've never had a sore spot in my mouth since I got them in July of 2003! However, I've never done any chelation yet. I'm still very sick. My horrible, persistant vertigo stopped after I had my teeth pulled, but I still have CFS, FMS, Sjogren's (autoimmune syndrome), and then I got DX's with Lyme in April 2005. Could it all be mercury poisoning? Or can having mercury poisoning make one suspectible to microbe invasion and infection. Many have gotten well from chronic Lyme, but I don't know if they ever had any amalgams or if did - had them removed. I don't know whether to attack the Lyme first or the chelation project. I ended up in the hospital on July 4th. I thought I was having a heart attack. I passed out for a few moments and when I came to - I was sweating, dizzy, eyes wouldn't focus right and was nauseous. I felt my chest and my hurt was jumping all over. I mean it moved my hand. I had my husband race me to the ER and they kept me in the hospital for 2 days. I have a conduction block and Atrial Fibrillation. This scared me. I never took the antibiotics for the Lyme that the LLMD wanted me to take because they made me so sick. All meds either make me sick or I have an adverse reaction to them in some way. Two drugs I've been given by doctors nearly killed me. I got a rash all over, shortness of breath and had to rush to hospital for a cortisone shot. I'm even allergic to epinephrine - which is what they have to put in Novocaine injections to do dental work. When you don't have it in the injection - you never get completely dead and you have to have so many injections. I had my teeth pulled in this manner. I thought I'd never find a dentist that would be willing to pull the 1,000's of $$ I had in my mouth. My dentist thought I was certifiable. My husband thought I should be locked up. But I finally found one in Indiana. He wrote the book, Tooth Truth. Last year, I spent about $800 in St. Louis to have a dentist recommended by my Lyme Doctor - check me for cavitations. He didn't find any - but my lower right jaw hurts when I touch it and has a bump under the skin I can feel. I not certain this dentist knew what he was doing. He had all of this new equipment and was like a big kid about it. he had his assistant use the machine on me - but she didn't act like she knew what she was doing. I asked her to go and get the dentist. I told him that I was paying him a fortune, and would only accept him performing the exam on me with his new machine. I don't think the girl had barely been trained on how to use it yet. She had no confidence. I told them both that I was sorry to be a real [censored] about it - but I really wanted to be certain I didn't have any pockets of rot and bugs left in my jaw bone. I told them how sick I had been and still was. He even used some other type of machine (his old one, I guess) that he would touch each area and it registered some voltage or something. He told me I was clear. anyway, since I had my amalgams removed by extraction in 2002, I began using ALA last Saturday. I only had 250 mg capsules that I had gotten over a year ago from some Hulda Clark site. I opened the capsules and took only a fraction of the powder in water with a little juice. Nothing happened. I then kept working up to the full capsule. Part of yesterday and part of today, I took the entire capsule every 4 hours. I don't seem to have any symptoms happening except today - emotionally and very wired and my neck got red. However, my BP went sky high. It is already high, and my doc put me on BP med after hospital scare, and a heart med. I hate taking any meds - but these two don't seem to be bothering me. SInce the heart scare, I've been taking mega vitamin c, amino acids, b's - everything I can for my heart - even 300 mg COQ-10 daily. The pain and chest pressure were gone after about 3 days. I ordered a product called Heart Technology by Lineus Pauling. It has many of the supplements that Andy Cutler recommends in it - but it is expensive and I have to take 4 teaspoons daily in water with a little juice. It is very sour because of all the ascorbic acid in it. I take magnesium - and between it and the C - I live on the toilet. I didn't know I would ever poop this much. I've always been constipated. This is great! After the hospital, I began taking some old Doxycycline that I had from Lyme doctor. I could only keep them down with pepto-bismol. I know it has aluminum in it - but I was desparate. I kept the pills down. But my stomach burned for days. I used charcoal tablets several hours after antibiotic and supplements and it helped a great deal. Then I stopped the antibiotics because I could feel the candida growing. I then began taking 4 grams of salt a day plus extra vitamin c. This is suppose to kill microbes. I had several bad herxs - but were they from killing the Lyme bacteria in my heart or from killing candida? Who knows. Someone on my Lyme group told me that the BP med I'm taking is really bad for someone with chronic fatigue. So I'm not going to take it starting tomorrow - it hasn't helped anyway cause my BP was 166/105 today. It was 148/85 at my doctor's last Tuesday. Does anyone know what I could use for high BP. I've also been taking apple cider vinegar in water with a little raw honey. I read this is supposed to help hi BP. By the way, I'm a newbie her. My name is Doris. I'm 55 yo, and sick and tired of being sick and tired. BTW, I stopped the chelation this afternoon because I know I'm taking too much and maybe it is making my BP go up. I don't have any symptoms from stopping the chelation. Maybe I don't have mercury toxicity - maybe it is just lyme. Who the heck knows.

Wow, just when I think I have heard everything, I am shocked some more...I am 55 and sick and tired of being sick and tired too. I found out that I should have been chelating before amalgam removal because I have such a heavy load, so I took a capsule of DMSA...if it makes me crazy, so be it...I cannot digest anything anymore...so I have to get some mercury out, one way or another.

I have read that it is near impossible to get rid of Lymes when you have metal toxicity...because mercury makes the bacteria resistant to antibiotics. I don't know what to tell you about the high blood pressure, I have the opposite problem, mine is so low.

I hope that you have some luck with the chelation, please keep us posted, you will be in my prayers.

Sandi
xoxo

, I am unqualified and really don't know biochemistry, and just passing on what I've read pretty much and I must admit, I have used DMSA in a one dose or random dose and would not advise it. I redistributed mercury badly. Just like the garlic supplement and using alpha lipoic acid too early. So that's why I can now see the logic behind the taking very small doses of DMSA every 4 hours around the clock for a few days on and then a few days off for a break and repeating for a few months. This is Andy Cutler's way of doing it. I hate to sound like an Andy Cutler fanatic, but I think he's got a point when he says that DMSA must be used every 4 hours to keep the blood levels of it even and consistant to keep mercury moving safely instead of being moved all over the place by a one off or random dosage (causing more to go into the brain).

Those things were a nightmare for me, but again, other people can do things that work for them. So I just pass on what I've read and experienced and nobody has to follow it, but I hate to think that they'd be made worse (as I have been).

Also, he advises against chelating with amaglams in the mouth for reasons of pulling more mercury into the body. But here again, people can do things that can work for them regardless.

Some things he says do NOT work for me and have hurt me, so I have had to moderate things further (like he would advise 50 mg of DMSA every 4 hours) there is NO WAY, i could tolerate that dosage and I have to use 12.5 mg or less to cope.

Some people on here use cilantro and get better, yet he advises against it becuase others have been terribly injured.

I hate this illness, it causes the most ridiculous and horrific symptoms and it makes us go all over the place trying to find what works for us personally because nobody really seems to be agreeing on one protocol, as everybody is too different to be completely certain one works for us all.

I appreciate your input Bex, but I have no other choice but to follow the advice of my ND, he has been doing this for years this way and has good results with it so I will try this first....I will get the book and do it Cutler's way if I don't have luck this way. I am scared of moving out too much too fast...I did that once by mistake with a garlic supplement...man that was a scarey feeling.

I will keep you all posted and I am going to get Cutler's book, I have such a heavy mercury burden, I will be chelating for years.

Thanks again,
Sandi
xoxo

Hi Sandi, no problem I totally understand and your natural doctor would know what he is doing and he's getting results. Also, my response to DMSA on the one capsule or randomly taken is more likely down to my overall condition from other issues (on top of mercury) so in all honestly, i cannot blame the way I took DMSA completely.

I am getting bad effects now no matter what I do. I used to use DMSA (one capsule every few days) and I do recall it worked at that time ok, but I always get bad effects from chelation. I did find Andy's way at one point more stable though, but again, I tend to change at different times so I never know how I'll be.

If you are interested, I have an online book I purchased a while back from a man who SWEARS by the method you are going to use and I was interested and read it. I can send this to you. I think if I recall, he used 100 mg of DMSA (one capsule) every few days or every second day (maybe everyday), but that was his way and he said he's healed himself from this.

So let me know and I'll send his online book to you. But yeah, I mean if you don't like the method and end up thinking it's not for you, Andy Cutler is always there I guess as another avenue.

I really don't know who is exactly right or wrong to be quite frank, but I suppose Andy is getting very good results (as your ND is too with his way).

Hi Sandi, im suprised that you were advised to chelate before amalgam removal, this is definitly a no-no, so i have read.
My dentist was trained by hal Huggins and he says to use DMSA 100mg mon, wed, fri, once a day.
I personally think that would not suit me as im sensitive and so are most others. We have to do this so gradually, otherwise our organs may get damaged.
From what i have been researching, Andy cutlers way, (if your going to do DMSA), is the best and safest way, and most people have got better by it, it has really good results.
Saying this im still scared to take DMSA. I just hate any side effects, even small.

Thanks Bex, that is so sweet of you, I hope and pray that somehow you see an end to this living nightmare. So far I am not having any ill effects from the DMSA, 100mg, but I guess time will tell, my stomach feels a little bloated, but that is nothing new...but I am not bouncing off walls yet...off for a consult with my dentist, will let you know how that goes...I have 5 root canals I want out, and he wants me to keep them and fix them....no, no, no!!!

I would love the ebook, thank you so much, my email is sandiflood@hotmail.com ....my computer is down right now, so I am using my husband's laptop, it is about as big as a scratch pad....ttyl.

Sandi
xoxo

Hi Sandy. Thank you so much for your sweet and caring words. Just wanted to report that taking 250 mg of ALA every 4 hours is indeed insane. I thought I would have symptoms immediately. WRONG. I stopped taking the ALA (this is why I need to keep a journal - I think I will remember, but never can) when??? - I think Sunday everning?? Anyway, I got sick as heck yesterday. I seldom ever get headaches anymore (thank God, one down). I think menopause helped with those. But yesterday I got a headache so horrible. I hate to take meds - but had to pop several Ibuprofens (sp). Today, headache better - but head is heavy and dull and now my neck hurts. When I begin chelating again - it will be just exactly how Andy says to do it. I just don't understand how one can take a 50 mg capsule and divide it into four doses. How do you guys do this? I also have much more of my FMS pain today. This AM the wired, anxious feeling was gone that I had yesterday, but it came back this afternoon - just not as bad as yesterday. I really thought the ALA was doing nothing to me while I was taking it until I started getting very irrational and emotional (crying for no reason) Sunday night. I should know I can't trust myself - I never use good judgement it seems. I just must trust you guys that are following the Andy protocol.

Hi Sandi, no problem, you're very welcome and thanks for the kind words and prayers!

I sent the ebook from my other email address signposts@e3.net.nz so if you don't receive it in your inbox, you might need to check your junkmail folder (or trash folder) in case it went in there automatically as often happens to me when I receive emails from people I don't know, my email will automatically put them in the junkmail folder, so I make sure I check it in case.

anyway, if you get it, I hope it turns out ok.

take care and best wishes!

Hi Dawn, I am getting more confused the more people I talk to...some say do, some say don't , some say you have to...most people that are getting it done now from the yeast connection are doing chlorella beforehand...who the heck knows...it is mostly trial and error for every different practitioner...there is so little organized research and results cause as we all know mercury toxicity doesn't really exist!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Don't worry Doris, I am going to be minus 9 teeth soon too, I just got back from my dentist and he is going to start root canal and cavitation removal as soon as I gt some rife treatments to lessen the pathogen load in them...I guess it makes it less likely to cause a problem with surgery and the bugs getting into the blood stream....yippee!!! So I will be a toothless old hag for six weeks or so too...yikes that kind of scares me, but so be it...they have to come out.

And the rife lady told me about a product called Bioxy....supposed to be a great colon cleanser..so I picked some up tonight..hope it gets things moving for me....

Just think, I am 55 years old and maybe finally have a chance at a real llife. She said she has been using chlorella for about a year now and her burden was very high, she had cancer too, and now her burden is 40% less in just under a year...so there is hope for us yet!!!

I will find out more and keep you posted, apparently the ND I am seeing is more focused on liver and digestion...so I need to take more responsibiliity for my own chelation or find someone who takes it more seriously. But the ALA scares me more than the DMSA, actually it all scares me because of the bad experience I had with the garlic supplement.

But I am excited, now I have to find a money tree!!!

Sandi
xoxo

Got the book, wow, that is an amazing story, how did he ever survive... I guess we can consider ourselves lucky compared to what he went thru and lived to tell about it!!!

Thanks so much for sharing that Bex, that is a real treasure...how did you happen to find that ebook? I sure didn't know all the stuff about Huggins, did you?

Sandi
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Hi Sandi, I know he did go through a lot. Though I think the mental sufferings of mercury can outdo the physical. I have heard many are languishing in mental hospitals and one health professional told me he knows a nurse who works in one and she privately told him, they know they're mercury toxic, but it's not their job, they have no idea what to do with them, so they shut them away.

And I had NO idea about Huggins either in that area. hmmmm. Makes you wonder.

I got the book when I was searching online once about DMSA I think and I was looking on different websites and I came across that guy's website and then him advertising his ebook on there, so I thougth I'd buy it to check out how he advised using DMSA and what it did etc. But again, I don't know which way is best, him or Andy.