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http://www.positivehealth.com/PERMIT/ARTICLES/Dentist/drage44.htm

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A word here about vitamin B12. It has been found to be a ‘methylator’, instantly converting the mercury ions into methyl mercury. Avoid vitamin B12 when detoxifying, although the other B supplements are not a problem.

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Vitamins can pose problems, too: Vitamin B12, cobalamin, greatly accelerates the absorption of mercury in the tissues.

And that one is from....
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Health/Nsaeha/fall96dental.html

Sandi,

I asked my doctor about this last week, because B vitamins are necessary for helping adrenals. I had stopped taking my B Complex until I could ask him about it. He said that he has frequently heard of this concern with B12, so he recommended that I take a B12 supplement that is already methylated....since it is already in this form, he feels that it will not then methylate the mercury. I'm getting a bottle of Longevity Plus Beyond B12, which is already methylated.

Has anyone heard anything about this? I really hope that these don't make it worse, because I really need to treat my adrenals. My doctor also pointed out that the first biomedical treatment given to autistic children when they frist start is B12 shots....

~Tia

Yes Tia, there are safe forms of B12.... I take it almost every day...but not on the days that I take chelators. That is why I am all for chelating on alternate days..that way you can take your minerals and B vitamins and replace the good minerals that are chelated along with the bad ones.

Sandi
xoxo

i have just finished my first course with dmsa and will begin another one next monday. i sometimes take a sublingual Vitamin B12 Methylcobalamin and am wondering if this brand is safe?

I found some conflicting information about methyl B12. Some are having great results and some like Huggins tell us to avoid it. The below info is taken from this site:
http://whale.to/w/b12.html



Note: According to the Heavy Metal Bulletin, March 1999, some researchers [including Dr Hal Huggins] and the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology in the USA have previously recommended caution in the use of methyl cobalamin injections in the treatment of amalgam patients. They feared that vitamin B12 in that form could readily methylate mercury in the body, ie. transform it into its more harmful form of methylmercury - when methylated, mercury is much more easily absorbed to the blood and then transformed to mercury ions, which are an intensely toxic form of mercury.

Taking B 12 in shots, intravenous solutions, or pill form, turns mercury into methyl mercury. Methyl mercury can be 100 times more damaging to the nervous system then other forms! Viamin B 12 from foods does not cause this havoc. Dr. Huggins says something like this in his book, "Detoxification."

I tend to believe him as I took a B 12 once after the mercury was removed and boy did I feel extremely toxic. Then from then on, I had foods and also natural herbs that had B 12 in them (not vitamin B 12 pills). I did not get this negative reaction and feelt much better.

When I had my amalgams in before, B 12 did not give me an adverse reaction as it did after removal. I'v'e read that its ok to take it in pill form before removal, but not after removal.

Even so though, it is never better to take synthetic vitamin B 12 pills, but instead only natural herbs and foods that contain B 12.

Scarlet,

Based on the information I have from IAOMT and Dr. Boyd Haley, B-12 is bitter sweet in the context of mercury toxicity.

Bitter because B-12 can methylate mercury.

Sweet because B-12's action is blocked by mercury (I'm simplifying a little here) and B-12 is key to reducing homocysteine, which, when high, is associated with heart disease and high cholesterol.

Yes, you heard right, mercury indirectly causes high cholesterol.

What about taking B12 that has already been methylated before you take it....my doctor thinks that it will NOT methylate the mercury as the pill has already been methylated before it reaches your body. Anyone know about this....? Does that line of thinking make sense? I do not know enough about the methylating process to know for sure. If your body has to transform the B12 into a methylated form, and it methylates the mercury in the process or as a result.....then that theory makes sense, as your body would not be undertaking the methylating process. But I don't know if that is how it works....

Can anyone either explain that to me, or else let me know if you have heard any supportive or refuting evidence for that? It's what I am going with for now, as my doctor feels it is safe, but I like to do my own research on things and decide for myself too.....

Another question: if I am currently taking a break from chelation and detox, do I even have to worry about this? Sandi mentioned that it's mostly harmful on days you are chelating, and it might be ok to take them other days.

Thanks,
~Tia

My ND gives me DMSA to take every 3rd day and on the days that I don't take the DMSA I take my regular B vitamins, in fact I take 2 B complex vitamins on the alternate days and I appear to be fine. Sugar and yeast methylate mercury too, and that certainly doesn't stop us from having the odd cheat. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Ask me I know.... and I sure regret it the next day. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Sandi

Then from then on, I had foods and also natural herbs that had B 12 in them (not vitamin B 12 pills).

What foods are a good source of B12?

I had this same question several months back. My understanding is that B12 donates its methyl group to homocysteine which then becomes methionine which is needed for detoxing.

One site I read said: Methylation is the process of recycling of homocysteine into methionine. It also talked about the addition of sulfate can often stimulate hg methlation while excessive amounts of sulfate can actually poison the hg meth. process by limiting the availability of hg to methylating bacteria.

The best site that I found with information on this is:
www.ever.ch/medizinwissen/b12hg.php

I also had stopped taking my B complex because of fear of methylating the hg, but I later decided to add it back in because of the importance for all the B vitamins. I didn't notice any ill effects. Mine is the cyanocobalamin (says from bacteria sources.) form.

This is another one of those unclear issues that goes along with hg poisoning. It sure can get frustrating can't it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Oh, something else that I found was that heavy metals interrupt methylation preventing the body from producing glutathione which leads to poorly synchronized neural networks (your nerves don't work right) and instead of glutathione binding with hg and removing it, it gets stored instead.

I experienced the exact same thing as Scarlet.
Befor eI had my amalgams removed I used to go for a vitamin B12 - Bcomp injection that would really give me a boost, at times id be desperate to have them, just for the energy etc.

After I had my amalgams removed and before I knew that "we" should avoid it I went for my usual injection... I tought i was losing my mind, clung to my sanity for dear life for about two weeks before it subsided, Im 100% sure that it was the culprit, now, im petrified of the stuff. Stay away.

Hi Night light,

I'm very sorry it took so long to answer you. I hope you get this messege. Accordinally to this excellent health book, Prescription for nutritional healing, by James and Phyliss Balch, it says that these foods have large amounts of B 12 in them:

By the way, I would read, Eat right for your type, by Peter J.D. Adamo, also. It tells you what foods are good and what foods are bad for your particular blood type. This way you can choose only the certain foods with B 12 in them that are good for you. I did this and alot of my allergies went away and I feel alot better now, compared to before. I still need to get my temporary crowns, toxic white composites out, along with a few infections in order to get completely well though. Anyway, here are the foods that are rich in B 12:

Clams, eggs, herring, kidney, liver, mackerel, dairy products, seafood, dulse, kelp, kombu, and nori seaweeds. Also soy products. Its also in alfalfa.

By the way, if your allowed to eat fish accordinally to your blood type, than I would broil it and take of the fat. Mercury is stored mainly in the fat of the fish. Also I wouldn't eat any tuna, even if it is a food you can eat for your blood type, because it has large amounts of mercury in it.

I hope this helps you! Good luck!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />