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Hello, I have a "silver" / mercury amalgam filling that is deteriorating (I'm 28 and I got it when I was 8 or 9 years old in a baby tooth that I never lost). I have an 8-month old child and am breastfeeding. I want to get a test to make sure that I'm not being exposed to excessive mercury (and therefore exposing my child via breastfeeding), but my general practictioner claims that you "can't test for mercury" and that amalgam fillings are totally safe. Does anyone know what tests can be ordered, and how I can find a doctor that can do them? I don't know if I should continue breastfeeding or not. Help!

I am no professional and I would only take some of what me or anybody on here says with caution, unless they are a certified doctor or biochemist qualified in this area of medicine but I would "suggest" that you stop drinking ANY hot fluids whilst you are breastfeeding your child.

The heat from any hot drink causes an increase of mercury coming off your already unstable amalgam.

No they are not safe at all, but anything that makes them more unstable like drinking hot drinks, or removing them, you have to be ready for an increase of exposure. Even chewing increases it, but you cannot stop dong everything, you have to eat etc. But you can slow down the offgassing of mercury more by steering clear of hot fluids (tea, coffee or whatever it is) for the time you are breastfeeding.

There are not real accurate tests for mercury toxicity. Because most of the time, mercury is too bound up and often is not always readily excreted, so unlikely to show much. People who are acutely poisoned, can sometimes how a high level. but chornically poisoned is normally not overly accurate.

You can sometimes tell if you have mercuy toxicity by getting a hair test done adn looking at the mineral levels and seeing which ones are deranged and there is often a pattern to look for, because mercury distrubs particular minerals in the body and other things.

Often diagnosing mercury is not so much looking for mercury itself, but looking at the problems it causes and things it disturbs. Mercury is too good at hiding and many people retain it too strongly for it to show up. Also some people can have very low levels on testing, but are retaining it deeply so they could be very poisoned but not show it on testing.

Or, the low levels could really mean low mercury but that the person may well have a total intolerance to even very small levels of mercury.

Just as some people show high levels and they might either be posioned, or they can have high mercury but showing they are excreting it out into the hair etc.

And some have high levels but are not bothered by it, either because they are not affected much by mercury, or they are simply eliminating it more easily, hence it shows up.

So there are so many variables for levels of mercury that I don't know how a doctor or any health professional can base a diagnosis simply on a mercury "level". EVerything has to be taken into account before they can figure out what is going on.

If a person displays signs of mercury toxicity, if they have amalgams or HAD amalgams, or if they have eaten a lot of fish, or they are perhaps living near some coal burning plant etc etc, then it is highy likely they do have mercury toxicity in some form. Basically if it smells like a rose, looks like a rose, generally it is one.

You may wish to get in touch with this biochemist Andy Cutler on think link. THese are his contact details. You can email him or phone him if necessary to tell him about this. http://www.noamalgam.com/vita.html

He is a biochemist and has studied mercury poisoning for many many years. He treats both adults and children and has a great deal of knowledge in all areas of toxicity and will no doubt be able to advise you on the safest course of action during this time of breast feeding, with this unstable problem amalgam you have.

Hope that helps a little.

Hi Texas.

The dentists in this country have been lied to by the ADA. Amalgam (a.k.a. "silver") fillings offgas mercury 24/7 and this is well documented:

Fast Facts About Mercury From The CDC

There are tests that can be done but few doctors know how to interpret them correctly. Here is some information that may be helpful:

Testing For Mercury Toxicity

It is also known that mercury does come out via breast milk.

Here are some articles that I hope will help you find the truth about mercury in a day when the medical community seems intent on making sure we are all exposed:

Mercury-Related Articles

Also, in case you might be interested, here is a link to my personal story and the story of a number of others:

My Mercury Story

A List Of Mercury Stored

Please let us know if there are any additional questions you have or if we can help. You may also want to be made aware of the vaccine exposure in vaccines:

Vaccines: Risks, Benefits, Choices

Congratulations on checking out the validity of what your doctor is telling you and not blindly believing it. That's the American spirit!

12 fillings were removed from my mouth about two and a half years ago and during this time i have made very little progress. I had a hair test a while ago which showed very little mercury 0.16 and mineral analysis was OK. But if i try to chelate with ALA or even DMSA i end up feeling very ill. Do either of you know if it is possible for hair tests to come back Ok like this and still for someone to be poisoned?

Hi Richard, Yes it is very possible, hair tests will not show up for mercury that is not circulating in the blood stream. After 24 hours it is buried deep in the tissues and won't show up on any test unless it is chelated.

Those hair tests offered on the internet arevirtually useless, the only ones that show up mercury are the excretors as it doesn't accumulate in them.


Are you avoiding sugar, dairy and gluten, that is crucial to successfully chelate metals from our bodies. Mercury affects digestion and causes candida and if our elimination process is not working efficiently, any metals we chelate just get recycled and that is why you feel worse when taking ALA or DMSA. The liver, colon and kidneys have to be working well before you take any chelators.

here are some prerequisites for attempting chelation.....

1.BOWELS AND KIDNEYS:These are the main avenues of excretion for mercury. So the bowels and kidneys must be able to eliminate regularly and correctly.
2.LIVER FUNCTION: The liver is the main filtering system in the body. As mercury leaves the tissues and circulates through the blood and lymph system it will find its way to the liver to be sent out of the body.
3.ADRENAL AND THYROID FUNCTION: These glands are responsible for pumping mercury out of our tissues and sending it to the liver. Once in the liver they signal the liver to dump it out of the body.

Sandi

Thanks Sandi
How do you know if the organs you mentioned are functioning properly or not? and what can be done if they arent?

You have to get rid of all chemically and processed foods and go on a clean natural whole foods diet. Eat organic foods and eliminate dairy, gluten, caffeine and anything that feeds yeast. Killing the candida is crucial cause it harbours mercury. Are you under the care of a MD or ND?

Go to http://wholeapproach.com/ they have food lists and diet information and tons of good recipes too, but they won't talk about mercury toxicity...they shut down my threads cause it distracted members from killing yeast. Yeast/candida is nothing but a byproduct of mercury but it has to be addressed to chelate successfully.

Best luck,
Sandi
xoxo

Here is a list of things to do to avoid more toxic exposure...

ways to avoid environmental toxins include:

-Eat as much organic as possible and wash very well
-Rather than eating fish, which is largely contaminated with PCBs and mercury, consume a cleaner source of high-quality omega-3 fats such as krill oil.
-Avoid processed foods -- remember that they're processed with chemicals!
-Only use natural cleaning products in your home, and switch over to natural brands of toiletries, including shampoo, toothpaste, antiperspirants and cosmetics.
-Avoid spraying insect repellants that contain DEET on your body. There are safe, effective and natural alternatives out there, like Neem-Based Botanical Outdoor Gel.
-Remove any metal fillings as they're a major source of mercury. Be sure to have this done by a qualified biological dentist.
-Avoid artificial food additives of all kind, including artificial sweeteners and MSG.
-Limit your use of drugs (prescription and over-the- counter) as much as possible. Drugs are chemicals too, and they will leave residues and accumulate in your body over time.

Hope this helps,
Sandi

I know I am *VERY* toxic. I have at least 17 amalgams in my mouth, that I have had for 14 years. I also have possibly 1 more, from several years prior (I can't remember, the mercury is affecting my memory <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />), and a crown that is almost 19 years old. I have just recently went through 2 pregnancies. I have 2 older children, and didn't have much, if any, problems with those pregnancies. With my last 2, I had such bad sciatic nerve pain, that I couldn't sleep, walk, sit, stand...during my pregnancies without excrutiating pain. With my son, which is 2 1/2 now, I developed undetectable gestational diabetes. It didn't show up that I was "dropping sugar in my urine" when they did my urine tests during my pregnancy. That is one way that they tell they need to test your blood sugar. Since my body was all out of whack, I got bigger and bigger. I also had a lot of weird symptoms that I attributed to being pregnant, that I later found out they continued even after his birth. The baby got extremely large, and got stuck in the birth canal. Thankfully, I had a wonderful OB and everything turned out ok. I delivered a 10lb 5oz baby vaginally. It could have turned out much worse.

I was deathly sick at the time of his birth, with some undiagnosed infection that I came up with. They had given me some kind of antibiotic a couple of days before, and I don't think it was working. I was getting sicker, and running a fever when I went into labor. I had projectile vomiting and explosive diarrhea (too much information, I know) during my labor. It was incredibly embarassing and painful, and I felt like I was going to die. It took almost a month for my bowels to get any better. I also got a weird ear infection, 2 weeks after I gave birth. My ears were hurting so bad that I cried. They were itchy and bleeding and crusty inside. There was also a clear liquid coming out, but I went to two doctors and they both said I didn't have any ear infection. This went on for months and months (and still does it on occasion).

I breastfed my son for 4 months, and then he didn't want my breastmilk anymore. I was saddened by this, but now that I look back, it was another change in the phase of me getting more toxic, I think <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />. It probably made the breastmilk taste different. My son walked and talked incredibly later than other children. He was 18 months old when he finally walked on his own. I had to face a lot of ridicule from my family, because they wanted to blame me for him not walking when he was supposed to. They accused us of carrying him too much, not working with him enough, etc, but that wasn't the case. No one understands my mercury problem, and are very closed minded on the subject. I did not know at the time though, that mercury was the cause of all of this. I have since read that mercury does indeed cause children to walk and talk later than others. He is a perfectly happy and healthy boy now, although he doesn't eat much and is very skinny.

When my son was 9 mo old, I got pregnant again. She was a real surprise. I was still huge from my prior pregnancy (and I still cannot lose any weight, no matter what I try), and so this pregnancy was even harder on me. From the time I found out I was pregnant with her, I felt like I was "poisonous". I was scared to death something would happen to her in the womb, because I knew I was getting sicker. They caught the diabetes in time with her, so I didn't get as big as I could've got. My blood sugar was hard to control, and I started losing my sight. I had terrible night blindness and panic attacks while I was driving. I was scared to go anywhere. I kept praying to God that I would go into labor early with her, and I did a little, because I told her while she was in my tummy that it would be safer for her to be born early, that to live inside mommy's poison body any longer. She did come a little early, and this delivery was very easy. I breastfed her for 10 months though, because I figured she already had been exposed in the womb, and I was hoping there were still enough benefits in the breast milk that would help her.
She had terribly dark yellow poop. No one seemed to really think anything of it, but I did. Breastfed babies usually have a light colored stool, and hers was dark and acidy looking. She ruined almost all of her clothes, because everytime she pooped it went everywhere and it stained like DYE. I just couldn't understand her lethal poopies, but the drs didn't really act like it was unusual. Once I finally transitioned her to more formula than breast milk, her stool started getting normal. When she was finally totally on formula, her stools were completely normal. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> It was then, that I realized the mercury must have done it, and I feel bad now because I exposed her to more of it. She is developing faster than my son did, though. I had heard about mercury poison from fillings several years prior, but I didn't think it could happen to me. It wasn't until the end of my last pregnancy, that I found infomation on the internet that truly made me believe that I am toxic. Now, I just need to get well, and learn how to chelate my kids.

I am sorry about the novel, but I have always wanted to talk to someone about the affects of mercury on my children.

Oh my gosh, your story sounds so much like mine, my first son weighed over 11 pounds and got stuck too, he also had a very large head. I nursed him for over 11 months and he had colic for 6 months and has had digestive problems ever since. He didn't walk until he was 16 months old..but had all his teeth by the time he was 10 months....weird hey??? My youngest seems to be better, but he has some issues as well, which I am certain could be traced back to breastfeeding and mercury...he weaned himself at 6 months, so he probably got less mercury from me.

I hope when I get well, I can convince them to do the yeast diet and some chelation, cause I know from the mercury in me and then what they got from vaccines, he must be toxic.

Are you planning on getting your amalgams out soon?

Here is a site that you can apply to for financial assistance, if you need it...to remove 17 fillings could be rather costly.

http://www.jigsawhealth.org/Apply_Now/

Best luck and take good care, and keep us posted as to how you go.

Sandi
xoxo

Thank God for you, Sandi. That link might be my life saver. I am working on the application and survey, there is still some more information that I need to get for it. Have you or anyone you know applied for this and gotten accepted? I am willing to try it. Yes, I want to start getting them removed, SO BAD!!! Finances have been one of the big issues. I just want to live, and be able to be a good mommy to my kids, instead of a sickly, depressed, vegitating mess! I want to feel what it's like to live again.

It's a comfort, knowing there are people on the board to confide in, that understand what you're going through.

Thank you for this board!!

In your case the issue is not whether you are mercury toxc;it's whether or not your breast milk has high levels of mercury. Find a doctor who will test your breast milk for micrograms of hg and compare this to controls with no fillings or to EPA ,WHO etc. maximum levels for hg exposure.
With only one filling which is so old its lost most of its hg its unlikely your milk has high hg levels.

Andrew Cutler is not a biochemist;he has a degree in chemistry. Most chemists never took any classes in biochemistry.He reccomends people use dangerous drugs like cortisone as if they were candy.

How's cortisone a dangerous drug if it is used correctly?
Do you have theory to back up your claim?

I hope it works for you...and yes I know of a girl in Connecticut that just had it done and I believe the paperwork was pretty quick and painless. She is actually a member of this forum.

Keep us posted as to how you go, and best luck convincing the kids to do chelation, that is my next hurdle, they are now 22 and 26 and think that I am a certified health nut. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Sandi
xoxo

hi i had a blood test done to check for mercury and they found 4 mcg/l but i am wating on my hair test to come back i know that i have been told that you can find it in the blood if you eat alot of fish but i dont eat fish at all but i do have 3 filling and my health has deteriated.

Most of time mercury won't show up on any test you do and some of the most mercury toxic and sickest patients are the ones with the lowest levels, because they are often retaining it and not eliminating it via the excretory organs and hair etc.

Some people in good health can show higher levels because they are often expelling any mercury they are absorbing.

Usually the most accurate way of testing for mercury, is a hair test, not to test for mercury levels (they were usually be very low), but to look at the mineral levels and usually in mercury poisoning, they are not as they should be, there is a pattern sometimes with mercury and certain mineral levels are deranged.

Sometimes, there is a method of provoking mercury into the urine/blood and getting a test with that, but even then, it can be inaccurate and has to be done properly to get a result.

I would never rely on any mercury test. The best way is testing the minerals, and checking your own symptoms also and sometimes taking something to mobilise/chelate mercury to see if symptoms are provoked and worsened, which is another indicator that mercury is causing issues.

My blood test came back normal when I still had my fillings in my mouth. I had all 7 of my mercury fillings replaced and was on a strict anti-candida diet for a year before I found a doctor that was willing to do a chelation challenge test. I had a 4 hour urine collection tested for metals and the mercury came back pretty low. It was a 1. I had to get some blood work before my Doctor would give me the chelation challenge test to make sure my kidneys and liver could handle the DMSA for the chelation test. I collected the same 4 hours of urine, but took the DMSA right before and my mercury level increased to a 14! This indicates "high levels" according to the results. It just shows that the mercury is deep in my tissues. I'm wondering what the regular test would have shown if I still had my fillings in.
in texas and Mommy. I found my doctor through the biological dentist that I went to. Many of them will know what doctors believe in mercury issues and test/treat for it. I'm sure they would also test your breast milk.
chigirl

help. My doctor has never seen mercury levels in a person as high as they are in my "autistic" son. When he was six months old, the dentist was kind enough to let me take breaks and nurse him. This was while she barbaricly drilled my amalgam fillings.

I cannot loose weight, have chest pains, can't sleep, sleep all day, ect. My new baby is eight months old. Should I stop breastfeeding her? Can mercury still be excreted after four years?

Do I have mercury poisoning? I am so fat and I exercise and breastfeed and diet.

Anna i'm guessing your in Ireland, where i am. I can put you in touch with someone in Galway who is very knowledgeable and helpful on these issues. My email address is whitey_ni@hotmail.com

Hi, I know a biochemist online called Andrew Hall Cutler, he treats austistic children and mercury toxic adults all over the world. He's got an excellent track record/reputation and his mercury chelation protocol is proving to be one of the safest ways of removing mercury.

You could look him up online and check him out.

There are also other tremendous doctors who don't get the same recognition they deserve because they haven't written books. I'm very aware of cases of autism (because i've spoken to the parents) who had limited progress with DMSA, and needed other treatments to make further positive impact.

For those searching for information about Dr. Cutler...

Dr. Andrew Cutler