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Mental Health-the key!
#12443
10/18/06 01:12 PM
10/18/06 01:12 PM
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Everyone, breathe deep, accept where you are and that it wont always be this way. . Stress is the enemy. Count the small blessings, we all have them, feel blessed to be alive....things will get better, believe it! Today!
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
#12445
10/18/06 02:13 PM
10/18/06 02:13 PM
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i agree no matter you circumstances a positive attituted always helps you cant be depressed all the time -- i know it hurts so much i have been there but you have to be positive !!
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
#12447
10/18/06 02:45 PM
10/18/06 02:45 PM
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The key to mental health is toxin removal.
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
#12448
10/18/06 03:42 PM
10/18/06 03:42 PM
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It is very hard and sometimes it's a struggle but to remain positive is definitely a key to this whole thing! Those blank looks and friends that don't want to know you ........ be positive and see what happens!
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
#12449
10/18/06 04:21 PM
10/18/06 04:21 PM
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Hi there, I am really going to try and type this post as nicely as I can without being "negative".
I have had moments of having a slight sense of feeling better and suddenly I'll be positive and I have overwhelming urge to go preach this to others. But I stop myself and recall how I am under the cloud of this illness, which is the total opposite and to realise how glib and patronising this can often come across to those suffering badly. I usually get pulled back to my senses very quicly when the cloud of depression and illness comes back.
Please recall how you were when you were at your worst and don't forget this. It is all too easy to forget and start thinking that all it takes is effort to be positive, or breath deeply (how I wish that were true). It takes a less toxic body/mind or an improved immune system to begin to be able to gather more inner strength, even if it's not much but a bit as most human beings are naturally positive and happy. Some of us are not having such luck with healing and have striven for years (so far for me it's 20 years of sickness). If being positive was all it was about, I'd have healed a long time ago.
I am a naturally positive and sociable person and this and many other health issues have torn me apart as a human being. you think it's possible to be strong and positive until you are in its grip totally. Then it's only about hanging on day to day, putting on a brave front or mask to others, feeling crushed inside. If one puts on a false act to others, they assume nothing is wrong and that you're lying about being ill. If you express your pain, suddenly you're "negative" or "moaning".
The fact people get on here and share their pain and strive for answers, hanging on day to day making marathon efforts and not always succeeding outdoes any mere comment of "be positive". To me, it's borderline heroic. Most of us have gone through total hell on earth. Many people with this toxicity have ended up in mental hospitals, some ended their lives. The fact i'm still here or not in a mental hospital, should never give me any right to think I am simply more positive than they are. It makes me think where I could have ended up or could end up (nobody knows for sure) and I should be thankful. I hope and pray that if I should ever get through this and get well that I recall how I was at my worst and don't start preaching to others the obvious. Being positive is basically staying alive for many, feeling happy and having a remote sense of wellbeing is often a dreamed of luxury.
i'm sure you made those comments with the best of intentions, but I hope you realise we are not stupid, we are adults with a serious illness, trying to find out serious answers. . Most of us have been years trying to get well, detoxing etc. when one does not get results, it is devastating.
This is actually one of the worst things you can say to a toxic person, as this is exactly what they want and can't feel. When they are under pressure to conform to this, it can cause them to snap. All very well if it's external circumstnces and not overly severe, but if someone is toxic and cannot feel how they should or gather enough inner strength, they should not have to feel more of a failure for it. They have enough to contend with already.
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
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10/18/06 05:20 PM
10/18/06 05:20 PM
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I agree with alot of your points Bex and I can understand a lot of what you are saying but I truly believe that you will not get well unless you believe you are going to.
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
#12451
10/18/06 06:07 PM
10/18/06 06:07 PM
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Yeah we do have to try to remain positive, but sometimes it is damned hard. A fellow told me to print out a whole bunch of love and gratitudes and paste them everywhere, my fridge, my water bottle, my dashboard....haven't done it yet cause lately I don't have much incentive to love or be gracious. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
but we do have to try!!! Thanks Bex and JID for sharing. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Sandi xoxo
Last edited by Sandi Flood; 10/18/06 06:10 PM.
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
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10/18/06 07:27 PM
10/18/06 07:27 PM
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Hi jid, I appreciate what you're saying, and that is great you have that attitude and may it remain with you.
Believing you will get well is great. If you are not totally incapacitated now and you are going to a good dentist who knows what he's doing (which you are)and receivingf proper treatment you will indeed have the optimism and hopes of a very good outcome.
But those of us who have not had the outcome we wished and hoped, and may not have received the advice we wished we had to avoid these problems are not negative etc, just unlucky.
Believing is great, but again it does not always magically set the stage for automatic healing. Alot of it comes down to the person's general state of health, research in getting the right dentist and treatments and advice from others and good fortune from things going right and as they should. If it was down to attitude, I should have been healed a LONG time ago. Nobody expects a bad outcome or years of suffering and I never envisioned it. It was down to weakened general resistance and too many things at once were burdening my health, plus the wrong things were done dentally. Had I known or been aware, I may have avoided it. But all I can do now is try and pass it onto others so they may avoid similar mistakes.
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
#12453
10/19/06 12:20 AM
10/19/06 12:20 AM
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Bex,
You are smart, and have enough energy for this forum, all i'm saying is feel blessed (not in a religious sense, if you don't want) find some spirituality. Maybe its meant to be this way right now. If you still have your mind, which by the posts you make i'm sure you do..use it, fill it with "how i'm gonna beat this" not possitive thinking-never said that. Too much energy talking about how bad it is all the time hurts the soul. I know you're angry, so am i sometimes. But instead of thinking why me, think why not me. Some people have really terrible things happen to them in this world, we are lucky in some ways, we have support, this forum and i'm sure a few good friends. I'm sorry you took my post wrong, I can't change that, but for the record:
I once was in the England Karate team, rock climber, avid hiker, runner, kayaker, paraglider pilot, scuba diver and some more. Can't do any of those things at the moment. Broke my back 4 years ago paragliding, L1 fracture, c5/6 disc crushed. Recently descovered i'm murcury toxic, 3 days in the hospital with chest pain, muscle pain and twitching. Bad head aches, kidney pain and a mouth full of amalgams.
So Bex, i'm not looking at you from the outside, i'm in it too.
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
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10/19/06 03:51 AM
10/19/06 03:51 AM
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Hi there, thanks for your post. I am sorry to hear about your horrific accident from such an incredibly active life! wow. And now this? Well, I don't know what to say, but it woudl seem you have a great deal of mental agility yourself and strength and the good sense to use it.
I hope you don't think my posts are an attack on what you were trying to convey. What you said was understandable and made a lot of sense of course! But trying to explain the mental impacts of this, is a little beyond me. The negativity and volatile nature of this toxicity, the dark outlook and feeling of doom, is very normal for a mercury person and often typical if the mercury syndrome (though not all experience this). It depends entirely on the areas it's affecting and the specific weakness of the person. many behave in this manner and are very difficult to deal with. I do have a lot of anger, I admit this but really I think it's quite normal to feel that way as I don't think I'd be human if I didn't. I'd probably be a Saint (which I am certainly not). But I am only too well aware of the judgements of others concerning those suffering the mental crippling effects of mercury, which, because it is invisible to others, is so often put down to being self pitying or "unable to look at the bright side". I realise you have not said this, but I do tend to lash out fast over it. Even if I'm out of line at times.
I really am just like anbyody else and want to live. I have spent years (as I mentioned) trying to hunt down teh solution and continue actively to do so. I am not on my rear end, moping and doing nothing. Amalgams were replaced nine years ago at age 24.. I spent years of extreme symptoms following this, salvaiting uncontrollably, screaming fits and many other symptoms. I was in bed most of the time from being so ill. By age 29 - 30, I began to finally see a light at the end of the tunnel and all the garbage of the previous years seemed as nothing compared to the improvemetns I was starting to experience. It felt like a light had been switched on and I was stunned at the change. Well, by age 31, I developed a bacteria infection, which impacted my immune system. From then on, I battled that and was very ill. I never recovered from this. But other things occured also that have added to this and caused me to become almost permanently ill. I eat healthy, I strive all the time for answers and have travelled for hours to see health professionals, paid out a lot of money for testing etc etc. Have found some possible factors, but no dentist is willing to take my case on, as I'm very ill and it is very complex for them. I am still attempting to locate a dentist, yet entering a dental office is so lethal to me, as the mercury vapor already in there is enough to cause me to become severely poisoned, moreso than ever. So I am tryign now to find a dentist that might help me with this too. I have jawbone infections, gum disease and other things I would like to rectify if someone would simply do the job.
So on here, I think it is very good that people can get on a forum like this and have support and understanding by those suffering it themselves, even if some have it affecting them differently. I may not be able to relate to someone having some other symptoms with this, but everybody is different.
It is hard to believe, but I am actually a positive person, always used to laugh and make jokes, active, sociable, but this has been a dreadful impact. This is why I stand up for others gong through the same, as I am well aware of what it can do, parituclarly in the mind. I no longer have any judgements of others with sicknesses, and those that are not visible, but I used to. It's amazing how firsthand experience can really put a rocket up someone's rear end as it did mine.
Thanks so much for sharing your own story. It is a very good thing you have the spirituality that you do. And I'm no professional, but if you want any advice or comments in this regard to amalgams, mercury, etc, please feel free to ask. I've experienced a great deal in 20 years, made some dreadful errors, but to be able to pass on things, and help others avoid similar mistakes, actually gives me a sense that I am doing "something".
Take care and may you experience the proper care you deserve and getting through this! I sure hope so.
forgive the lengthy post.
Rebecca.
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
#12455
10/19/06 05:32 AM
10/19/06 05:32 AM
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I'm not saying deep breating exercises aren't good (they are very beneficial).
But I still say Meditation > Deep Breathing Exercises.
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Re: Mental Health-the key!
#12456
10/19/06 05:25 PM
10/19/06 05:25 PM
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Rebecca,
Thanks for clearing the air, i wish you well, you sound like a very caring person,
...a friend
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