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testing for mercury poisoning help #13530
11/17/06 03:19 PM
11/17/06 03:19 PM
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hi my health has been bad for 3 years and i have been diagnosed with cfs although i think docs so fed up of my range of symptoms that they said i had cfs to shut me up. My mouth is full of mercury fillings (16) and i have had 3 root treatments. I have had this weird feeling in my tongue and i feel i cant speak properly. My tongue is tingling! My legs are sore, I have had chest pains, pain attacks, bad tingling in my head, hands and feet, extreme tiredness etc etc. Dont want to bore you all to bits. anyway to cut a long stort short i think i may be poisoned by my fillings. Im desperate to get a test but can find no info of any testing carried out in the uk.
can anyone help me please
fiona

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13531
11/17/06 03:42 PM
11/17/06 03:42 PM
clare  Offline
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Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 108
uk
hi fiona
all your problems deffinately sound like mercury poisoning to me there are vega tests you can have and im sure theres mercury free dentists that test the level of mercury in your urine you just have to phone around see what testing dentists do hope this helps .

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13532
11/17/06 03:50 PM
11/17/06 03:50 PM
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Anonymous OP
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hi clare
i have drawn a blank with the testing. I live in scotland and i have phoned all the mercury free dentists and none test and they couldnt advise where to get tested. thanks for your reply. have you been in the same situation as me?
fiona

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13533
11/17/06 04:12 PM
11/17/06 04:12 PM
mommy24  Offline
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Posts: 364
Kansas, US ***
I have all of the same symptoms as you do, and I still have all my amalgams, as well. I am in the US, but I agree that doctors use CFS to diagnose people, when they don't KNOW or won't open their eyes and SEE what it wrong with you. I don't believe there are "mystery illnesses". Everything is caused by something. Doctors are not there to find a cause, they are there to treat the symptoms. I can't beleive how stupid I have been all these years. My GP doctor is a great guy, but so brainwashed and lost. He looked at all my symptoms, tested me for my thyroid and then gave me another anti-depressant. I really, truly expected more out of him.
Please keep us updated on what happens.


"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson
~Autism is what we call Mercury Toxicity in our young, Alzheimer's is what we call it in our old.~ myspace.com/mercurypoison
Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13534
11/17/06 04:18 PM
11/17/06 04:18 PM
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hi mummy24
god your story is so like mine. I have been prescribed antidepressants too but i am not depressed. thats the one thing i can be sure of. If i was healthy i would be on top of the world. Have you mentioned to your doc that you think your being poisoned?
fiona

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13535
11/17/06 04:25 PM
11/17/06 04:25 PM
clare  Offline
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fiona
i didnt know what was wrong with me either and i had all the same excuses from doctors saying it was all in my head and try antidepressants i knew i wasnt gonna get anywere seeing my doctor all the time and if they all had there way alot of us would be sectioned now if it wasnt for me looking online trying to figure out what was wrong with me i probably still wouldnt know now i phoned alot of dentists and found one in london which is far from me too coz im in lancashire but he did pre testing and i was put on a anti candida diet and a herbalist did a vega test telling me what i was allergic to and what organs in my body were most effected but there are other tests to if you look online you might find some more infomation on testing

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13536
11/17/06 04:35 PM
11/17/06 04:35 PM
mommy24  Offline
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Yes, I have. I mentioned first to the nurse, who said "What??? You mean by the filliings in your MOUTH?", and she gave me a really odd look. Then he came in and asked me why I think I am being mercury poisoned, and I told him I have severe short term memory problems, unexplained pains all over my body, weight that just won't come off, swollen glands, lines on my fingernails, my mouth is burning...and he just looked at me. He went on his laptop, and typed in all of my symptoms and the little computer spit out that it thought I had thyroid trouble (which I probably do) but what doctors don't understand is everything that we have wrong with us is caused by MERCURY. He felt very satisfied with his diagnosis, and had me go over to the lab to get tested. He said he wanted to test for more "common" things, before he would test for something RARE like mercury poisoning (which is such a WASTE of everyones time and MY money) . He even pricked my finger and took my blood to check for high blood sugar, and it wasn't high. Then he gave me the speech about how life can get hectic, and most of these symptoms can be caused by stress. He would like me to take an anti-depressant. I told him I ALREADY take an anti-depressant. You should have seen the look on his face. So, he said he would give me a different one, one that was stronger and would give me some "get up and go". Fine, I will humor him. I take the anti-depressant home and try it for a few days. Everyday that I took it, about 30 mintues later I started getting drowsy and had to take a nap. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Whatever. That just confirms for me, that there is indeed something "out of the ordinary" wrong, because I don't have reactions to things the way you are "supposed" to.

Then my results came back and it's not my thyroid.


"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson
~Autism is what we call Mercury Toxicity in our young, Alzheimer's is what we call it in our old.~ myspace.com/mercurypoison
Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13537
11/17/06 04:36 PM
11/17/06 04:36 PM
dawn  Offline
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Hi fiona, i too have been prescribed anti depressants, my doc laughed at me when i said i wasnt depressed.
I also live in the Uk and have been diagnosed with CFS.
I never got tested for mercury, but because no doc could tell me what was wrong, i put it down to mercury.
I have had my amalgams removed now and only have a few symptoms left, where as before i had over 30.
Im still very ill though, it takes a while to get better.
Are you on a candida diet, sometimes going on this diet can eliminate some symptoms.

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13538
11/17/06 04:42 PM
11/17/06 04:42 PM
tracy  Offline
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dear fiona i got exactly the same crap from the doctors as you in fact read my post on doctor manager i now have all my amalgams removed feeling bad but i have an alternative health woman who helps me and she is good ive also booked in with another dentist in london to check i dont have a cavitation and there is also a neurologist there im going to see who worked for the nhs FOR 20 years then got fed up with their crap the best test i have used is a test you can find under osumex on the internet but i also had a test last year at a private hospital in london called the Breakespeare if you go for vega test find someone very good cos i had different results from mine so thought they wernt that reliable my natural health lady told me i had mercury poisoning before i told her anything she works for Acmos i dont think id be coping at all without her support good luck Tracy

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13539
11/17/06 04:43 PM
11/17/06 04:43 PM
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Anonymous OP
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candida diet
No im not and have to say i have never heard of it! But i will look into it and thanks for mentioning it.
Im now thinking i will get all my filling removed as fast as i can (which will not be that fast as i imagine this is very expensive)
thanks again
fiona

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13540
11/17/06 06:56 PM
11/17/06 06:56 PM
richard  Offline
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Posts: 146
UK
I suggest you read Andy Cutlers book 'Amalgam Illness - Diagnosis and treatment' A really good place to start

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13541
11/17/06 08:39 PM
11/17/06 08:39 PM
Laura Clement  Offline

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Posts: 396
Maine, USA *****
For those of you who are new to the forum, we offer both Dr. Cutler's "Amalgam Illness" book and his "Hair Test Interpretation" book (extremely helpful for understanding how to accurately determine hair test results), as well as Dr. Hal Huggins' book "It's All in Your Head."

I've included links below if you'd like more information about these books:

Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis & Treatment by Dr. Andrew Cutler
Hair Test Interpretation by Dr. Andrew Cutler
It's All In Your Head by Dr. Hal Huggins

If you have any questions about these books or would like to know the cost for shipping outside the U.S., feel free to contact me any time.


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Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13542
11/17/06 09:56 PM
11/17/06 09:56 PM
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Virago  Offline
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Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 59
UK *****
Hi fiona...
Where in scotland are u?
Im in Aberdeen. There are no mercury-free / AWARE dentists here.
One practice i believe is listed on some sites as 'working toward mercury-free' but i was registered there for a while, and the dentist i saw gave me The Blank Look [ <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> ] when i told her i was looking for someone to remove my fillings.

[I had to travel to Edinburgh to have 9 amalgams removed.]

I personally would not advise getting a 'Kelmer' DMSA challenge test, as i did. Not only is it potentially dangerous [to use DMSA in *this* way], but i dont think its all that conclusive either. My GP didnt know how to interpret the result [606% increase in mercury?] <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Hair analysis may be more helpful in terms of clues to mineral deficiences / abnormalities. [i hope to get one soon]
I dont think its possible to quantify exactly just how much mercury is in ur system. Its effects are always changing anyway.

I think what is more important than testing specifically for Hg is getting the facts on its properties, being adequately prepared, and learning from other ppls experiences.. and this forum is a great place for that.

Anyway, u are welcome to send me a private message if u want the details of my experience so far. Hope this helps! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Virago 30/f/Scotland

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13543
11/17/06 11:04 PM
11/17/06 11:04 PM
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Anonymous OP
Unregistered

Fiona, I have had three different tests - one was a challenge test in which I was given a chelator and had a 24 hour urine done, and then my mercury levels were measured. Another was a hair analysis for mercury. And most recently, my dr. gave me a 24 hour urine test for porphyrins. I get the results this coming week. Just doing a blood mercury or a urine mercury will not give you much information from everything that I have read. If you go to the Huggins website, they have a phone # - maybe they can give you a referral source in your area - or even a dr. that you can do a phone consult with somewhere else. You should also get the books that Laura mentioned above. Hope this helps.

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13544
11/17/06 11:32 PM
11/17/06 11:32 PM
Sandi Flood  Offline
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Posts: 790
Vancouver, BC ****
In my mind testing is a waste of money also...metals are hiding in layers in our deep tissues....you can only chelate so much at once....and that doesn't give you any idea of what lies below the surface. My ND feels the same way, he said if you have resistant candida and metal fillings you have metal toxicity.

Get as much knowledge as you can about the precautions you need to do, research all you can find and then go to the dentist prepared and try to find a mercury free or holistic one if at all possible. Someone on here just swallowed a ton of the stuff and is so sick cause the rubber dam broke...you have to be aware of the dangers involved. And also kill the candida to optimize digestion so that you can eliminate the stirred up mercury or you could get much sicker.

Best luck,
Sandi
xoxo

Re: testing for mercury poisoning help #13545
12/09/06 04:59 PM
12/09/06 04:59 PM
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Anonymous OP
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Sandi,
Just read your post about testing for mercury and you mentioned your ND. What is your ND's name? I have read a book by a Dr. Jonn Matsen and he says that mercury is the missing link for a lot of his patients who just don't seem to get better even though they are doing all the right things. Just wondered if your ND might be the same person as Dr. Matsen's clinic is in North Van.
Chelan


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