News you won't see in controlled mainstream media.

Sunday i got up not feeling great but quite happy and did quite a lot of things but something has happened to me over the last couple of days. Apart from feeling more physically ill, I feel like every single emotion in me has completely died. Its almost like im already dead but still breathing and all I want to do is be in a deep sleep where I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING. Whatever I do I cant get any feelings back at all and I am scared to death

I have gone through this several times in my life, but not recently, thank god. Thus, the reason for me using anti-depressants in the first place. I may have health problems, and they may be severe, but the anti-depressants at least got that part of me under control. Almost a month ago, I stopped taking the anti-depressants finally. I am tired of chemicals, but I am scared, because every other time I have stopped, in 30 days (when it all got out of my system) I crashed and burned and was worse than ever. My 30 days is coming up, and so far so good, since I have been taking the oregano and other supplements. I hope this time will be different.

Maybe you could try St. John's Wort? I have never tried it, but heard it could work. If I do "crash" from the withdrawal, I will probably see about trying St. John's

st. johns wort works well for many people. without side effects.. make sure you buy a high quality brand some of the cheap brands don't work.

I've known a few people who tried St. John's Wort and they all felt that it helped them a lot, and then they eventually didn't need it anymore. That's one of the great things about herbs...no withdrawal or side-effects if you decide to stop taking them.

I agree with others about getting a good quality. Most of the clinical studies on St. John's Wort have used an extract of the herb that was standardized to contain the active ingredients, hyperforin and hypericin.

Here's more information about St. John's Wort:
St. John's Wort

Let me know if you have any questions,

I know what you are going through Tracy, and I completely feel for you. I used to use ignatia...a homeopathic remedy for that dead feeling....and sometimes Rescue Remedy can help as well. But I would get some of the Ignatia first and try that...it really worked wonders for me. You can pick it up at most health food stores here in Canada...if you like I could mail you some if you can't find it in the UK.

Best luck sweetie and feel better soon....

Sandi
xoxo

You can't simply stop taking an antidepressant cold turkey because many of them cause physical dependence. That's probably why you crash after you stop taking them. May I ask which antidepressant you are taking?

I know. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Once I did it, because I was pregnant, but ended up going back on it, and taking it the whole pregnancy. I have weaned off of it too, like you're supposed to, cut the doses in half, then quarters, then take it every other day, then ever 3 days, and I still would crash. It is Celexa. I can't knock it too bad, it's kept me alive through times I didn't think I would survive. I am usually showing some signs rby now of getting ready to crash, and I'm not, so that is a good thing. Maybe I won't do it, this time.

did you get any side effects when you first started to take it when i tried anti- depressants the side effects were horrific i was so spaced out, heart racing and loads of other bad stuff Tracy

Tracy,

I have taken Anti depressants twice now. Once was 7 years ago I was on Eflexor ( Venalavexine) and more recently I was on gosh I cant remeber the name... nope wont come to me but it made me eat.

Anyway first time 7 years ago the Dr just gave them to me like they were a box of sweets or something and I took them home and took one, I eneded up on the bathroom floor throwing up and having a very very major anxiety attack, so, I was taken into Phsiciatric hospital whre they watched me and I was still quite bad for a couple of days, eventually I was OK and I thank god I took them. Within a month I was as right as rain.

This time, just recently, I had efflexor again and same thing happened, I had a major panik attack, hyperventalated and everything, so again I went in and they changed to these other things I cant remeber the name of anf I was fine on them.

So, I do think that they can cause probs to start with, I think you just have to work through that. I was told at the hospital they lower your blood pressure and so cause these symptoms.

Both times they have saved me, I have tried St johns wort, they didn't really help me. When I came off the anti depressants I came off very slowly and still felt a little funny but ok now.

I really think you should try again, it seems you are depressed. Depression is fed by negative thinking, once you start that ball rolling its hard to stop it!!!

Best wishes to you

Sue

I didn't get any side effects from it, that I know of. I was ready to kill myself back in 1995, and I could not even function at all. They got me on Prozac then, which helped a lot, but then after awhile it stopped doing much of anything for me. I was in such bad shape though, they told me I might have to be on anti-depressants for the rest of my life. I don't remember how long I was on those, or what they changed it to, but I know I was able to wean off of it. Then in 97 or 98 I totally lost it again. I was even having terrible hallucinations and I could hear my own voice telling me to do things that I would NEVER do. It was like the devil was inside and I had to fight it. I never told this to my family or friends, because they would've had me locked up. I got on Celexa and it made everything so much better. I even went to counseling, but it didn't really help much. They did ask me who's voice that I heard telling me to do things, if it was mine or someone else's. I told them it was mine, and they said that was a good thing, because I wasn't nearly as sick as if I had heard someone else's. It makes me shudder to think back at that. I basically have 3 times in my life that were major bad points for me. I call them my 3 "nervous breakdowns". I hope I don't ever have anymore. With the Celexa, I felt a difference within a couple of days of taking it. I actually could function, and it only got better. I don't really have any complaints about it, but its a chemical and I want to try and get away from it, if possible. BUT by all means, if I was in the frame of mind again that you are right now, Tracy, I would take them. I never could see any use for me existing if I was just a blubbering, bawling, listless, anxiety stricken individual, so I had to do something.

I hope you can find something that helps. I know not everything will help everyone. It's a lot of trial and error and depends on each individual and our bodies, what will work for us, whether chemical or herbal, but I would start trying something, anything to get out of that place.

*HUGS*

For one thing you dropped off of it much too fast. I would suggest that you drop the dosage no more than 10% a month. No wonder you crashed. Most people (and even most physicians) don't understand how addictive these drugs are.

That being said, if it's working for you why do you want to get off of it? You have to decide which is the lesser of two evils and I know through personal experience that is a hard choice to make.

Another supplement called Rhodiola is reported to be effective with depression and has few if any potential side effects. Worth looking at if you are going down the antidepressant route.

I dont believe my depression is fed through negative thinking, its mercury for me.
On my good days im back to my old positive self, on bad days i get depressed and suicidal and ita caused by mercury.
I tried antidepressants, they made me 100 times more suicidal, i went to A&E, when they saw me they told me not to take another pillI have tried others, but none work for me, i have to put up with it and hope the feeling goes away.
St Johns Wort doesnt touch it, neither does 5HTP.

Dawn, I am of the firm believe that there is actually no such thing as a truly negative person. People who are suffering under a toxic condition feel/behave negatively when the very areas of the brain needed for positive outlook and behaviours are poisoned or blurred. Even when they "act" ok towards strangers, they are deadened and often desperate within.

I no longer judge those people, as I have gone through it and still do and my entire outlook and bheaviour alters like the wind and I feel like a puppet on a string. All due to health. I totally relate to what you are saying.

Most people on here though are discussing the helpful aids of antidepressants, which are not to call anybody negative, but to say that toxicity can cause severe depression and sometimes an antidepressant can act as a mental bandaid WHILST a person looks for ways to heal properly from this condition. It's not a cure, but it "can" divert some of the chemical distortions in the mind that the toxicity can cause.

Health is the cure, but if a person needs an antidepressant as a crutch in the meantime, then they should go for it. but again, the bad side of this is, the toxicity in the first place can not only alter the chemicals and feelings inside, but also cause a person to react to many things they try (including antidepressants). So it makes everything very difficult.

This is why I reckon it's a good move that people are mentioning St John's wart as an option. Andy Cutler mentions this also!

But to be quite honest, I never benefitted from any antidepressants and the only time I managed to get any relief from mental suffering was candida diet and/or mercury detox (at that time). No amount of psycholgoical analysing or councilling got me anywhere, yet I was subjected to it because the medical people decided I was just depressed and needed to admit why this was and what it was in my life and childhood that had brought me to that. All of it was a waste of time and total BS, but they would not listen to the fact of me being unwell. Actually, they said that too was in my head <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Then the antidepressants were brought onboard and they had me from one to the other and nobody told me about NEVER STOPPING them suddenly. They let me go off them and didn't inform me about weaning myself off and I almost committed suicide. I was so close to doing this, that my father had to sit with me on my bed while I was in a foetal position and could'nt speak or move. Did they care? No, they just shoved me on another antidepressant right after that.

Eventually I got off them all and went on the candida diet and at that time, it brought me out of the darkness, even though I still had illness problems. THat was the best antidepressant I ever had (then).

Well said, Bex. Like you I had a very bad psychiatric experience in the past and nearly died.

Now I have to make a decision because my depression is severe and I'm having a lot of suicidal thoughts. Between my psychiatrist (a new one) and my alternative medicine doctor I have a choice of one conventional and two unconventional drug treatments. I have to go ahead with one or the other soon.

HI Aaron, my depression is severe also, plus the suicidal thoughts. I wish diet was working for me this time around, but so far it seems it's not (since me smoking a packet of cigarettes in a day). I cannot shake myself out of it, nor improve at all.

Hope you have better luck than me, I'm almost too tired now to make anymore efforts.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> PLEASE STOP KILLING YOUR SELVES!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

HI EVERYONE,

I AGREE WITH BEX THAT THE CANDIDAS DIET AND LIVING A HEALTHY LIFSTYLE IS THE BEST ANTIDEPRESSANT OF ALL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GRADUALLY DETOX, DETOX, AND DETOX!!! THE REASON WHY YOUR SUICIDAL IN THE FIRST PLACE IS BECAUSE OF TOXINS DUE TO THE DENTAL MATERIALS, SO WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU WANT TO MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE BY PUTTING MORE TOXINS INTO YOUR BODY!!! NOT ONCE HAVE I EVER HEARD OF A HAPPY ENDING FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN ANTIDEPRESSANTS!!! I HOPE YOU ALL REALIZE THAT THIS IN NOT THE ANSWER SINCE YOUR MAKINGYOUR SELF SICKER PHYSICALLY AND AS WELL AS MENTALLY.

IN MANY CASES IV'E HEARD ON THE NEWS A PERSON WHO MURDERED 1 OR MORE PERSONS WAS ON ANTI DEPRESSANTS! SOME PEOPLE HAVE EVEN GONE POSTAL!!! SOME COMMITTED SUICIDE AND SOME WERE EVEN TEENAGERS TOO!!!

I USE TO HAVE AN OLD BOYFRIEND WHO WAS BI POLAR AND WENT ON CELEXA. IT WORKED AT FIRST FOR A FEW MONTHS, BUT THEN HE HAD TO KEEP BUMPING UP THE DOSE SINCE IT WASEN'T WORKING MUCH ANYMORE. SINCE IT WAS ALOT MILDER THAN PROZAC, HE HAD TO TAKE IT AT THE SAME TIME EVERYDAY. IF HE DIDN'T, THAN HE WOULD BECOME EVEN MORE DEPRESSED AND VIOLENT. IT ALSO WOULD MAKE HIM FEEL BAD PHYSICALLY WHERE I HAD TO STAY WITH HIM AT TIMES BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO DIE AT THAT MOMENT. AFTER AWHILE HE HAD TO TAKE MUCH HIGHER DOSES TO WHERE IT WAS TOO TOXIC TO HIS POOR FEEBLE BODY AND TO WHERE IT WAS'NT WORKING ANYMORE EITHER. HE WAS GETTING HEART PALPATAIONS AND EXTREMELY HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE. PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY HE WAS LIKE A WALKING TIME BOMB.

AFTER A WHILE HE GOT SO VIOLENT THAT I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO KILL ME SOONER OR LATER!!! IT WAS ALMOST AS IF HE WERE HEARING VOICES TELLING HIM THAT I WAS TRYING TO HURT HIM IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. HE WOULD FIRST BE VERY QUIET AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN HE WOULD ACCUSE ME OF EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN YELLING AND SCREAMING IN MY FACE AND PUSHING ME AROUND AND THROUGHING THINGS ALL OVER THE PLACE!!! IT WAS A NIGHT MARE I WILL NEVER FORGET. I FOUND OUT LATER AFTER I BROKE UP WITH HIM THAT HE OWNED ALOT OF DANGEROUS WEAPONS OF DIFFERENT KINDS.

THANK GOD I HAVE A WONDERFUL FIANCE' THAT IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THAT PAST BOYFRIEND. PLEASE DON'T THINK I'M ACCUSING ANYONE OF BEING ANYTHING LIKE MY PAST BOYFRIEND. I AM THOUGH TRYING TO IMMRESS ON YOU THAT ONE THING CAN LEAD TO ANOTHER AND WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE EVEN MORE MISERABLE THAN IT IS NOW!!! YOUR BODY IS SCREAMING AND BEGGING YOU TO STOP HURTING IT WITH THESE ANTI DEPRESSANTS EVERYTIME YOU GET THOSE WEARD SYMPTOMS. ITS A WARNING THAT WORSE IS YET TO COME PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY!!!

I TOO HAVE BEEN SUICIDAL MANY TIMES, BUT I KNOW THAT ANTIDEPRESSANTS ARE NOT THE ANSWER!!! I WILL NEVER TAKE ANTI DEPRESSENTS BECAUSE I AM FULLY AWARE THAT THEY ARE DEADLY. I'M ALSO FULLY AWARE THAT MANY DOCTORS, DENTISTS, THE FDA, THE ADA, AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, ESPECIALLY THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, AND MANY MANY MORE CURRUPT ORGANIZATIONS ARE TRYING TO MAKE US SICK SO THEY ALL GET RICH!!! THEY DON'T GIVE A HOOT ABOUT YOU. THEIR JUST INTERESTED IN COLLECTING AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN FOR MEDICATIONS, TESTS, AND FINALLY INVASIVE SURGERIES. THEN AFTER YOU HAVE DIED A SLOW AGANIZING DEATH, THEY WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON AND THE NEXT AND THE NEXT. THIS SICKENS ME TO NO END AND YOU DON'T DESEARVE THAT!!! YOU ARE A PRECIOUS HUMAN BEING WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO BE HEALTHY AND HAPPY!!! SO GET AWAY FROM THESE MAIN STREAM DOCTORS WHO ONLY WANT TO HURT YOU AND NOT HELP YOU!!!

I CAN'T HELP BUT ASK AFTER YOU HAVE BUMPED UP YOUR DOSES OF THESE ANTI DEPRESSANT DRUGS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NEXT WHEN THEY DON'T WORK ANYMORE????????????????????????????????????? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

In this MERCURY SECTION of the forum, click to, ROOT CANAL OR EXTRACTION: ALEX1, DATED 12/7/06. Then scroll down to my post that says, I FEEL LIKE IV'E BEEN ABUSED TO DEATH BY DENTISTS!!! When you read this post about all the hell I'm going through, you'l find that all you kind people on this forum, plus my fiance, have saved my life and given me a reason to live!!!

PLEASE START LIVING A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE. GET PHYSICALLY HEALTHY SO YOU CAN GET MENTALLY HEALTHY. DON'T GIVE UP, BECAUSE WE ALL NEED EACHOTHER!!!


GOD BLESS YOU AND I WILL CERTAINLY BE PRAYING FOR YOU ALL!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

THESE NATURAL THERAPIES WORK GREAT FOR HEALTH AND DEPRESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRY THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Hi Bex, and everyone else,

I always see a pattern assoicated with depression. No matter what the toxin is whether from dental materials, pharmaceutical drugs, chemically processed foods, or cigerattes, etc. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> It will always make you sicker with illness and depression!!! Since you already know this please try to quit the cigerettes, Bex.

My fiance' was addicted to cigerettes for 20 years but finally quit shortly before he met me. He was bound and determine to quit since he felt like he was having a heart attack! What helped him was hypnosis! After several times he quit for good!!!

Cigerettes have hundreds of terrible chemicals that cause many deseases, and cancers that no one can denigh!!!

Please what ever you do, don't give up!!! By your beautiful, wonderful words of encouragment, you have helped me more than you know. In fact, every time I get depressed I think of all that you said that made me feel so much better about my self. It moved me emotionally and I cryed!!! I can not thank you enough, Bex!!! By your encouragement, you have given me a reason to fight for my life and live!!! I even have more energy now, since part of the reason I was so weak and tired was because of the deep depression!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Now I'm going to give you your own advise, please hang in there and don't give up!!! You are such a caring and special person, not only with a compassionate heart, but also with a brain full of knowledge. The world would feel a loss without you. WE ALL NEED YOU ON THIS FORUM!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />THAT GOES FOR THE REST OF YOU GUYS HERE ON THIS FORUM TOO!!! PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP!!!

Hear is a list of natural remedies for everyone that will definitely relax you when your feel anxious. They sure helped relax me, and they are also beneficial for your health as well, both physically and mentally: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

1.ACUPRESSURE BY YOUR SELF OR WITH A PARTNER, 2. REFLEXOLOGY BY YOURSELF OR WITH A PARTNER, 3. AROMATHERAPY, 4.ACUPUNCTURE FROM AN ACUPUNCTURIST, 5. DEEP BREATHING EXERCISES, 6. TENSING AND RELAXING EXCERCISES, 7. GUIDED IMAGERY, 8. GI GONG, TAI CHI, AND YOGA EXERCISES, 9. MEDITATION, 10.DIFFERENT TYPES OF MESSAGE, 11. MUSIC THERAPY, 12. COLOR THERAPY, 13. LIGHT THERAPY 14. HYDROTHERAPY 15. HOT AND COLD THERAPY 16.FAR INFARED SAUNA 17. HYPNOTHERAPY 18. STRETCHING, WALKING, AND OTHER MILD EXERCISES 19.MAGNET THERAPY, BUT ONLY AFTER AMALGAM REMOVAL. 20. LAUGHING TO COMEDY MOVIES! 21. HAVING A LOVING PET TO CUDDLE WITH. 22. ENJOYING NATURE; THE BEACH, THE MOUNTAINS.

Alot of these things promote energy flow. Where ever there is a blockage of energy, there is pain or illness!!! Reflexology, Acupressure, and Acupuncture are only a few examples of this that promote energy flow!

Also some of these therapies produce endorphines which are (happy hormones). Walking is a good example of this.

There was a study with senior citizens with degenerative deseases. 1/2 of them were given pets and the other 1/2 didn't. The 1/2 that had pets had a considerable drop in blood pressure. Their other vital signs improved also. They were more relaxed, happy, and responsive. They also lived longer too.

YES I KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THESE SIMPLE NATURAL THERAPIES COULDN'T DO THEM ALOT OF GOOD. THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO TRY THEM. THEY APPROACH IT WITH A NEGETIVE ATTITUDE RIGHT OFF THE BATT NOT GIVING THEM A CHANCE TO WORK! ITS TRUE THAT IT WON'T WORK IF YOU ARE RESISTANT, STRESSED OUT, AND WON'T AT LEAST TRY TO RELAX WHILE DOING THESE NATURAL THERAPIES !!! STRESS WILL LOWER YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM EVEN MORE AND PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING WELL EVEN IF YOU EAT THE BEST DIET IN THE WORLD!!!

IN CHINEESE MEDICINE, EACH ORGAN IS ASSOCIATED WITH A CERTAIN EMOTION. FOR EXAMPLE, THE LIVER IS ASSOCIATED WITH ANGER. SO IF YOU HAVE ANGER, THAN IT WILL PREVENT YOUR LIVER FROM GETTING BETTER. ANGER IS THE MOST DIFFICULT FOR ME TO OVERCOME, SINCE I'M SO MAD AT THE DENTISTS THAT RUINED MY LIFE AND MY TEETH!!! THE CHINEESE LOOK AT THE WHO BODY,( UNLIKE WESTERN, MAINSTREAM MEDICINE) AND IT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

IF YOU LEARN HOW TO DO ACUPRESSURE OR REFLEXOLOGY YOURSELF FOR EXAMPLE, THAN IT TAKES ALOT OF PRACTICE AND DEDICATION TO DO IT CORRECTLY. MOST OF ALL, IT TAKES CONSISTANCY. IF YOU JUST DO IT FOR A WHILE AND GIVE UP JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T FEEL A DIFFERENCE RIGHT AWAY, OF COURSE IT WON'T WORK! BUT IF YOU STICK TO IT, YOU WILL NOTICE A HUGE EMPROVEMENT IN YOUR HEALTH!!!

BEFORE I STARTED ALOT OF THESE NATURL THERAPIES, MY LIFE OF PAIN, ILLNESSES, ANXIETY, AND DEPRESSION WAS UNBARABLE. EVER SINCE I STARTED THEM MY LIFE IS ALOT MORE BARABLE, EVEN THOUGH I STILL HAVE ALOT OF TOXIC WHITE COMPOSITES, AND BACTERIA IN MY JAW BONE TO GET RID OF.

PLEASE NOTE: ALTHOUGH THESE THERAPIES PROMOTE GOOD HEALTH, IT IS STILL NESSECARY TO GET TO THE SOURCE OF YOUR DENTAL AND HEALTH PROBLEMS SO THAT YOU DON'T ONLY FEEL BETTER AND RECOVER JUST ALITTLE BIT, BUT COMPLETELY!!!

IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND HOW EFFECTIVE THESE ARE FOR DEPRESSION!!!! You can find many library books about how great these natural therapies are for your health and how to do them correctly!!! Even if you just pick one of these therapies you'l notice a positive difference, but you must do it right and be consistant!!! I always find that when I stick to it, I have a feeling of relaxation and contentment with a clear mind. I also sleep like a baby too!

God bless you all once again and I hope this helps!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

FROM SCARLET,

Good advice Scarlet..antidepressants never did squat for me either. I think that Ignatia or Rescue Remedy are much better or try Dr Mercola's EFT...emotional freedom technique..some people swear by it. Try dry brushing or epsom salts baths to remove toxins...that could be a huge part of your depression.

And doing the candida diet is crucial...I fell off the wagon last week after hubby's Christmas party and felt the crappy old feelings sneaking back into my head...and had to take the bull by the horns and get back on track. It is so easy to backslide after just a couple of cheats...and so not worth it!!!

Best luck to you all and feel better soon,
Sandi
xoxo

Hi SandiFlood,

Thank you so much for your kind words of encouragement as well as Bexes that you wrote me in the, "ROOT CANAL OR EXTRACTION ?" thread when I was so extremely depressed. You have motivated and encouraged me to keep fighting for my life and not give up!!! Thank you so much for praying every night for us too. I have been praying for you two along with everyone else who is suffering on this forum from illness, pain, or depression!!!

I love your posts because you always give good and logical advise along with kind words of encouragement!!! I also admire how you can pack quite a bit of information in your short posts. They are short, sweet, and straight to the point.

I wish I didn't have to write a book everytime I need to say something! All my posts are too long and this probably discourages people from wanting to read them.

I'm going to try the things you and Bex suggested on the other thread also. Thank you so much for the helpful information!!! It makes sense that the products you suggested would work great for digestion, which is exactly what I need!!!

God bless you!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

HI Scarlett! wow, I had no idea my post to you made you feel that way, and I'm so glad! Thank you for passing that onto me and it was a pleasure to say it and with praise like that, when I did so little, is very humbling! Thank YOU.

And don't worry, I don't smoke!!!! I just did something very stupid 5 weeks ago, I had a binge of smoking on my birthday (I used to smoke very rarely in the past, like one a week or hardly ever) and this time I thought well its my birthday, I'll have a smoke. Instead of having one, I went for it and smoked them all in oneday. This has thrown me intoa pit of despair and I am suffering dreadfully 5 weeks on. So as silly as it was to do that, it does indeed show that the poisons in cigarettes maybe far worse than I realised.

I appreciate all your recommendations. I have done quite a few things, but my problems do not get remedied by anything like that. I've gone in circles for years and the only time I have ever gotten ANY improvemetns have been from the candida diet, and/or mercury chelation. Nothing else. My depression or other mental affects stem directly from that and no amount of talk therapy, or massage or acupuncture does a thing, I've been there. But that's just me personally. I have gone through teh mill and had homeopathy the entire deal. I know that my body is simply looking for relief from the toxic overload and a way of permanently lessening that, which I coudl only do with diet. Right now, even that isn't helping, so I'm just barely hanging in there I guess and hoping.

Alot of my problems I believe stem from infection and dental toxin issues (i have no amalgams though). I think this is why I am suffering permanetnly from toxicity.

I agree wtih you on the antidepressants to a point, but again there are two sides to this issue. And they should never be condemned if they have actually helped and prevented a person committing suicide (my cousin is an example). No they are not the answer, but in some cases, they do indeed help and we must be careful int his area. In other ways, they are BAD and should never be used on a person unless they have exhausted most other options. Even then, I'd be careful. But certainly, my cousin uses them and she informed me that believe me, without them? She woudl be dead. So who am I to tell her to stop them? I think though that they have also done dreadful things to a person, so I am in two minds about them. I myself never had a good experience with them and if I did, it never lasted and instead I got side effects and odd feelings.

But again, I think for so many of us, it is a lot of trial and error because we are all so different and what helps one is not necessarily going to help another and often people will be drawn to some other area, not ours. But it's good to pass on recommendations regardless and let people decide if they want to give it ago. Most people have tried already many remedies and cleanses and things and often they, like me, are going in circles. What we do need is the answer to the underlining condition, which isn't easy when you get continued contradictions by the dental and medical profession, so this is why we end up having to almost treat ourselves.

Also Scarlett, saturated fats are not the evils they have been made out to be. This is a modern misconception by the psuedo new age "experts' that have also told the public other things to avoid. Sadly, they are a very necessary part of the diet and have been for our ancestors. The alteration of this done in our new age society, has produced the opposite of what they hoped for. The reason is, animal fats are healthy and are able to be used by cells, the other fats we are now told to eat e.g. plant oils like canola oil etc, do the opposite and are not only toxic, but the cells cannot use them.

My reason for believing this also is the proof. I have used saturated fats now for a while (now aside from this stupid smoking I did), I improved from that and my skin, everything responded. All that from using butter, lard and extra virgin olive oil. All the things we've been told to avoid and this is wrong. another lady who has just added these fats to her diet and not done much else, , she reckons it's changed her life (lucky her). I wish I could ssay that, but certainly I can tell it does something.

If people are still in big doubts about this and I'm not saying to splurge on it, but here is a candida link (which I believe is the best candida website on the internet) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidasupport/

If you check out the files and links, you will read about this and other amazing health things that have been suppressed by those in charge, especially doctors. The lady who runs this website is in her 60s, her name is "bee" and she is in prime condition who has studied all these things for years on end. She had been very ill once.

If anybody has questions or concerns about the saturated fat theory, ask her if you want and she can help you understand more about this and why the public have been misled on this issue.

It is only now that people are starting to realise and slowly go back to these old fats they were once always used liberally. I would never be without them.

Wow, I am soo impressed at everyone's posts here- there is a lot of compassion in this place!

Hey , you know what always helps me- and what you may want to try --along with what everyone else suggests too! (every little bit helps)

My aunt is Bi-polar, and I looked up natural things to help with mental illness. I came across info months ago on getting enough Omega fatty acids in your diet. This includes both Omega 3 and Omega 6.

I've been having PMS symptoms and irritablility that I link in with the possibility that I may have a little latent Bipolar condition just as my Aunt. My aunt's condition didnt start until after she had her first baby. This reminds me of hormonal imbalances, tied in with brain chemicals- and this could tie in with my bad PMS mood swings.

Soo- I figured I'd start trying taking unrefined Flaxseed oil and Fish oils daily. I also take Oil of Evening Primrose the week before my periods. I keep all the oils in my refridgerator to keep them from turning rancid.

I have noticed a HUGE difference. I would even experience paranoia during my PMS weeks-- and this also makes me feel i could have latent mental illness in me like my aunt.

With my oils now, I feel like the boy on that movie, "Lorenzo's Oil!"
I make sure that when I get the fish oil, it states it is checked for Mercury.


Hang in there!
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Boldy

Yes the oils are very important to protect us...I use Udo's oil, it is a balanced blend of efa's...and wouldn't be without it. That was the first thing the lady at the health food store told me to get when I first found out I had candida. And the primrose oil really helped my pms symptoms too...and I eat tons of flax seed muffins...they get me thru the bad cravings.

Thanks for the reminder Boldylox...love your name and your picture too!!!

Sandi
xoxo

I take evening primrose oil and flax seed oil, i just cant bring myself to trust any fish oil incase its contaminated, this illness makes me paranoid.

Hi Bex,

I'm so glad to hear that you don't smoke all the time and hope that you feel better soon!

Its difficult for me to believe that none of the therapies haven't helped you even just allittle bit. Iv'e updated the above post with more suggestions that may help you figure out why none are working for you. If almost all these therapies are helping me alot, the walking corps that I am, I would think that anyone who isn't dead yet would be able to at least benefit from one or two of these therapies! I believe though if you have suvived for 10 years after amalgam removal with the bacteria infection you have, and are not bed ridden, then I believe that your body should be able to respond to at least one of these therapies. Please read what I added to the above post about therapies. I think it may help you find out why they are not working for you.

I understand what you mean though that there is no permanent solution for you since you are living with infection constantly in your body. I have a feeling that I have the same thing from all the quack dentists that abused me. Do you think we have the same thing and are suffering from jaw infections because the dentists we went to lied and said that they gave us cavitations, but really didn't? Do you think by some miracle we can find someone to actually do cavitations that will finally end our illnesses, or do you think that there is another reason why your not getting well? I think I'm heading down the same road you are. Although all the therapies I do make my life so much more barable than if I didn't do them, I know I still have to deal with all my dental problems in order to get completely well!

I agree that medication is nessary sometimes too, but only in an emergency when nothing else natural will do like for a heart attack, labor pains, or a car accident. Also when the drug is a none addictive drug and only used for a very short time, for example antibiotics for an abcessed tooth. I had an abcessed tooth from that unathorized root canal I just received from that so called holistic dentist I had. My face swelled so much that my bone thin face swelled as big and round as a balloon!!! It was so bad that the swelling went clear down to my neck choking off my air supply. This is when it was necessary to take antibiotics to get the swelling down. Thank God it wasn't for more than a week, although it caused the candidas to get alot more severe. It also caused my food allergies to get alot worse to where I had no choice but to fast for 3 in a 1/2 days the last 3 days I was on the antibiotics. I believe that the fasting saved my life because it got rid of alot of candidas as the time!!! The antibiotic was also extemely necessary at the time too!!! I just don't agree with the over use of any drug for long term use, especially when a particular illness is caused by toxins to begin with.

What you said about the lard is interesting. It is the first time I ever heard that lard was actually good for you. I'll read what Bee has to say about it though. Thank you for the web site. Usually though I have to here it at least 5 times from different holistic type doctors in order to start believing it. I heard at least 50 times that olive oil and flaxseed oil is excellent for you so in the mean time I'll stick to that until I do more research about lard.

My fiance' said tath the Eskimos eat alot of animal fat and thy arer in good health since they need it to be able to withstand the cold weather. I'm not sure how it would benefit someone who doesn't exercise and burn it off. Also for people who live in warm climates. I know I'll have to read more about this. I am a type A who is suppose to be on a vegetarian diet since type A doesn't have enough stomach acid to digest meat. Also me as an individual can't digest any kind of fat or any food due to mercury and heavy metal toxicity. Therefore I have to have full spectrum plant enzmes before I eat anything.

Although we don't agree on everything it is nice to be able to exchange ideas! I alsothank you for all the suggestions and ideas! Many of them I will try. I already cut out the glutenous grains, and especially dairy, and sugar!!!

No you did not do so little either! You have helped me tremendously with all your encouragement and suggestions more than you know! I hope I will at least be able to help you make your life alittle more barable if I can!!!

God Bless you, FFROM SCARLET, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I've been reading through the top half of this thread concerning depression and antidepressants.

For 5 years, i was given over a dozen antidepressants, ECT and therapy...and NONE of it worked. Conventional medicine is a total joke. Now i realise of course that i've been mentally tortured for 13 years because of poisons in my body making it impossible for any antidepressant or nutrient to get my chemical imbalance "balanced". The answer clearly lies in getting these poisons out of me.