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I have just read the post on questionable dentists and feel now that I have to vent my piece about this man. All the dental replacements he did for me have to be replaced again as my teeth have the fillings running straight across them and are literally glued together. After an x- ray he missed a tooth which had to be removed with a large cyst underneath and a cavity with a large abcess underneath. He gave me 15 bottles of Iv as I did not go to sleep. I still not go to sleep. I have had to have the tooth removed by another dentist and the abcess sorted. His opinion was that he had never seen such poor dentristry work in his life. Heashams website is fantastic and guarantees total cure or money back. He also uses his own de-tox, which I could not use. I dont want to say much more as we are in the middle of trying to retrieve our money and it is obviously a delicate situation. When trying to contact Dr. El -Essway we are often told hes not available and out of the country. People are obviously free to make their own decisions, but personally I wouldnt send my cat to him. Please dont just look at the website and believe everything you see, dig much deeper. I paid £2500 for work that to me is totally useless. There is someone else who also used him and maybe she would like to add her experience. I realise we are individuals and what works for some wont others, but when your guaranteed success, you feel so positive only to have all your hopes dashed.

i totaly understand how tracy feels hesham el essawy claims youl get better within 1 year he shouldnt make promises like that he obviously cant keep them to build peoples hopes up like that is totaly wrong my experience wasnt as bad as tracys and i only have temporary fillings in but im unsure about going to him for permanent ones after hearing wat u have gone through tracy with all this iv lost complete faith in the man

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Tracey, I have got to add my story to this and that is that i used the same dentist - hesham el-essawy - and had mercury removed in may 2006 and now feel 100%. Perhaps you have not felt better because mercury is not your main problem, i think i remember you doing a post saying that you may have cavitations. a friend of mine had cavitations so i know just how debilitating they can be. El-essawy does not pretend to be a specialist in cavitations and it is clear that mercury is his line of practice. I have used numerous dentists before in london, including david harvie-austin, who completly messed up a tooth extraction, and i have found the best who deals with mercury.

I guess each of us just has to find what works best for us. it sounds like you have found a great dental clinic that can help you and i wish you all the best.

Ray

I understand what you saying Ray and I,m truly glad things worked out so well for you. My point is I dont think anyone should promise all a guaranteed recovery if thats not true for some people. The conversations I had with Dr Heasham never once gave me any reason to doubt this and he did say Mercury was a problem for me. As for him not specializing in cavitations, how can he guarantee your recovery, if he knows nothing about them, surely as a dentist he must have some knowledge abou this issue. What Im trying to say is if his knowledge is limited, fair enough, but then the bone of contention still remains, he shouldnt offer all his patients a 100% recovery, which he does. This gives you false hope, I would have been happier if he had been more open about problems that could occur. I went to him purely because of the guarantee and thats very misleading. In hindsight I suppose its a bit naieve to believe the same treatment works for everyone, but you know how desparate and vunerable you can be with this illness, you clutch at any hope of total cure and want to believe its the answer for yourself.

Hello all, been using this site for a long time and have also felt the need for shared info on personal experiences with named dentists as this is a huge part of our recovery and it is so hard to knowwho to trust.Ive been to some bad dentists, some lying dentists and some ones who meant well but didn't have a clue. Hesham El-Essawy is the one I went to after my homeopathic dentist couldnt sort me out after being in severe pain for a year and managed to miss 3 abcesses that had gone into my jaw bone and sinuses, so, for me I could say Hesham saved my life as it certainly wasn't worth carrying on as I was. I would say he is an excellent oral surgeon and removed all my mercury without causing me any toxic effects as others have, nor did he pave over it as others had. Mercury truly is his obsession and that just may be his short coming as it took me an age to get him to take out some teeth that were just causing me too much misery, but in the end he did and he did a very good job of that, too.The teeth he didnt want to take out had been root canaled and he wanted to re -do them which I was reluctant to have done, partially because of what I know about root canals and just that I wanted to be pain free NOW, anyhow I agreed to it but I said at the time I was afraid of it being a waste of time and money .Well I went ahead with it and probably his root canals are very good as he does have some amazing machinery, lazer etc. but these teeth were past it, one had been originally done over 25 years ago and in the end I just wanted them out, anyhow he did not charge me for the job, only the anaesthetist, so I thought that was pretty decent.(This was after a month or so, too.)He does have an interesting procedure for removing mercury that means you have temporary fillings until you have detoxed, unfortunately these temps. do feel like your teeth are all stuck together but they arent meant to be there forever .His theory of why you only put temporaries in is elsewhere explained on this forum and it seems to make sense.I do know of other people who thought they had all their mercury out who ended up going to Hesham because they hadn't had it done thoroughly and he uses a merc. vapor meter to be sure, after all ,the stuff nearly killed him so he is completely sincere about wanting to REALLY get it out, he hates the stuff.As for his detox, I'm not sure that there is any one dentist who can do it all, I think people need another person who is really good at that side of things. I know someone who went to the Munro Hall clinic who says they absolutely saved her life and is totally transformed and loved her whole experience with them including their detox which other people here have criticiized. I guess I'm just saying that everyone can have a different experience with the same people because we all have different problems that need addressing so it stands to reason that there probably isnt any one person out there who is best for everybody.In my case if I thought I had a cavitation I would try and go to someone who specializes in those and since I have had my molars and front tooth removed I found the one person in this country who does zirconiumoxide implants as I wouldnt have metal in my mouth ever again. Sorry to ramble but I dont think Hesham deserves to be run down as I think he is completely sincere and highly skilled but just not the person who could help Tracy. Of course it would be great if we could just go to one person who could do it all, if anyone has had THAT experience I'd love to hear it.

HI toofypegs, . I'm glad you had a very good experience with him, that is great. Sounds like he can indeed do an excellent job. What confuses me is this. Why, if he's such an ethical dentist, would he charge such an amount of money as well as tell Tracy that she would come right? Evidentally, she has not, yet he had her believe she would.

So you can imagine her anger towards him. I like to hear both sides, and glad you have stuck up for his work on yourself, which does indicate he is very much a mercury free dentist. But what does one do when they are almost promised a cure, yet receive not only no cure, but end up worse, plus poorer?

So I can see her frustration and anger at him. He's only human I know and no dentist does a perfect job on all patients, things do go wrong sometimes, but I'm disappointed in him that he would have her believe something he really cannot guarantee anyway.

Again, good for you for passing on your experience and for sticking up for the job he did on you, but I think it's good to hear both sides, whether positive or negative. Sadly in Tracy's case, it is negative and I wish she could have had the outcome you did!

I would like to add that my filllings are not temporary and therefore should not be in the state their in. I paid 2500 for permenant replacements and as for the vapour machine that is so very important. Well I had to wait about two months for it to be returned from America ,where it was being fixed and then he couldnt remember if hed plugged it in and charged it. I had further conversations with him about my condition, after treatment and got nowhere. In fact when I told him I was worried about anger issues, he laughed and said dont worry your husband wont leave you. Bits of my fillings have also started to crumble, so I think I have every right in saying I wouldnt reccommend him to anyone.

From Dr Hesham El-Essawy.

Re: Tracy.

I have followed Tracy’s attempts at defaming me, and the valiant defence that other contributors mounted on my behalf. I think it is time for some truth in all this.

It is true that I believe that it is not right for me to take the patient’s money for removing his or her amalgam without giving the patient a successful outcome through doing my job properly. I have been safely removing mercury amalgam fillings for the last 17 years and have successfully treated over two thousand patients, all of whom were cured from their many debilitating symptoms.

For professional reasons to do with patient confidentiality I am unable to divulge much detail that might help the reader understand the true reasons behind Tracy’s complaints and her unfair campaign against me. I shall only deal with the points that she chose to make public.

The reason we are so successful in what we do is that we follow a particular system which we arrived at from long experience and from reading our patients, and it is that particular system that Tracy adamantly refused to follow I told her many times that her progress will be slow as we cannot see the whole picture without following our system.

Tracy admits on these pages that she did not take the detox that I prescribed for her (which happened to be the best in the world by the way, as shown by our detailed experiments). She also admits to having bouts of anger, and I have to say her anger was never directed at me except in her writings (I am not even sure that these writings are hers). In my last telephone conversation with her in her mother’s house, which I recorded, she admitted that she had (good few weeks) and that she has improved. What worried her was her fits of anger and her depression, and I again urged her to do things our way so that we can help he, but she again refused.

Tracy claims that I missed spotting her abscessed tooth on the x-ray, and that is not true. It is highly unlikely for a man like me of fourty years experience and of the highest qualifications in the world to miss spotting an abscessed tooth. It is written in her notes so clearly, just as clearly as Tracy’s instructions to me not to do anything other than the removal of her mercury. Even if she wanted me to deal with her abscessed tooth, I would not have done so at the time of amalgam removal (the only time I operated on her).

Tracy refused at every turn to follow my system, claiming that she would not pay money for “unproven” tests. These unproven tests have served us extremely well for the last 17 years and have helped save the lives of many patients. The Vega tests to which she was referring are well established. The 17 vials that I had to give her for sedation was foretold by the Vega test machine that she refuses to recognise (she only agreed to have the abridged test for bio-compatibility when I told her that I will not operate without it for her sakes). She badly needed the full test which she refused to have.

Tracy is claiming that the fillings we placed in her teeth are permanent fillings. Well Tracy, you are wrong again, they are temporary fillings. We never place permanent fillings until the patient sheds the entire body burden of mercury, and we do that to make sure that mercury does not find its way under her permanent fillings. (I think she has unfortunately managed to get herself talked into having permanent fillings rather prematurely).

What surprised me was that the dentists whom Tracy went to see for a second opinion did not realise that they were temporary fillings (perhaps he should be excused, for some of my colleagues jokingly tell me that my temporary fillings are better than their permanent fillings). Frankly, it is difficult for me to believe that a dentist cannot tell a temporary filling from a permanent one!

However, perhaps I should take it as a compliment that neither Tracy nor her new dentist knew that her fillings that I have placed in her teeth were in fact temporary, not permanent (it takes me one and half hours to do one permanent restoration Tracy, how long were you in the chair for? Remember?) My temporary fillings which I placed in Tracy’s teeth were made in a particular way for a particular reason, and a very good one at that.

Before I started treating Tracy I was put under immense pressure by her “side” which made me fear for her life, and made me accept treating her ON HER TERMS, not mine.

Had Tracy accepted treatment on my terms she would have experienced much improvement just as all of the other patients have experienced over the many years we have been helping the mercury toxic patients. Had she accepted treatment on my terms and failed to get results she would have been refunded her money without a question being asked after one year of no successful outcome. But she had her treatment on her own terms and under duress and it has only been a few months since she did.

Tracy will recall that she lied to me on the many emails she sent me (evidence is available). Had she told me the truth about her problems I would have been able to help her, but she and her side seem to have a different agenda!

What truly saddens me is that Tracy has deprived herself of a golden chance to recover her health. I sincerely pity her for her unfortunate choices and her false claims.

Tracy says thatshe would not send her cat to me. I am glad she wouldn't as we do not treat cats!

Dr Hesham El-Essawy
121 Harley Street, London, W1G 6AX
www.el-essawy.com
hesham@el-essawy.com

Thanks for giving your side to this Dr heasham El-essaway, Not to dismiss Tracy's feelings, but it is good to hear both sides of something for fairness sake.

Thank you.

I have not commented on these threads, but have been reading them with interest. Assuming that the poster who identified himself as Dr. Heasham truly is Dr. Heasham, I am really rather shocked that a doctor would divulge so much personal and detailed information about a patient on a Forum like this.

Does doctor/patient confidentiality exist in England? Perhaps I'm expecting too much. I feel that the above response from the Dr. smacks of unprofessionalism. A doctor can publicly defend himself on a Forum like this without divulging the detailed information on a patient as was done here.

I guess the code of ethics for professionals is much different in England than it is in the United States.

Just my sorry old two cents.

SomedaySoon (Sharon)

Hi Sharon, I read his post more than once, and quite honestly, I could not find anything unreasonable or unethical in his statements here. As for the actual dental work itself, I cannot comment, only Tracy and him know that for sure.

In his above statement, he has given his outline of the other side to all this, in the hopes it might give readers an understanding of some issues that may have been outside of this dentist's ability to do more than what he is qualified in doing for that patient. He seems to be stating he did what he could to the best of his ability (Though Tracy's statements on top, do indicate that the work itself was NOT done to the best of his ability and cost her greatly it would seem by what she has told us...).

I picked up Dr Heasham's frustration at trying to get Tracy to take onboard the full protocol, which is part of what he does to ensure more safety and a better prognosis for the patient's health outcome. If the patient refuses to do this, and disregards or follows their own way, the dentist can hardly be blamed for a poor post health response, if the treatment regime was a big part of the overall mercury removal process and success...which this dentist indicates it was. It's not just abut the mouth, the entire body needs to be taken into account. It's a very difficult procedure and the outcome from mercury removal is never straight forward, always risky and the dentist can only do his best at working out the best treatment he can to aid that process and try and soften or even avoid unnecessarily worsening the patient (too easy to occur in this process).

Also, one must tke into account, this is his business and his life. If a person gets on a forum and misrepresents, or omits anything deliberately or even ignorantly, they can harm a person's career very easily. So I can see the seriousness behind this and the need for both parties to state things in as much factual detail as they are able to do without actually being in trouble for abusing confidentiality (which I see no evidence of this dentist doing to his patient).

He has read the posts, and Tracy, like many of us, admits to anger and depression (classic mercury symptoms also) on posts (as we also have done) so certainly he has only reiterated what was already stated. That cannot be construed as abusing patient confidentiality.

From reading his post, his statements suggest, at least in his eyes, he did what he could to the best of his ability, and under the circumstances, it would seem that ability was frustrated, due to tracy refusing the treatment protocol. However, Tracy's top statement does not mention her poor prognosis in health improvements or non improvements in this post at all, she has only made statements on the dental mechanics side of it, which she has paid a lot of money for and is not satisifed.

Also, taking into account finance. Many patients, and no doubt Tracy included, probably do not have the luxury of a large inflow of cash to take onboard every possible treatment option and offering, including all the testing, which can end up becoming a huge expense (even without the dental work) and the need to limit things due to finance is totally understandable. So if finance had anything to do with Tracy turning down some of the extra tests and protocols for detox, I hardly see she can be blamed for that side of it, nor should a patient feel pressed to do so. If they are there for dental work alone, then that is what she had paid for and expected satisfaction from. Obviously the health situation is another matter, but in this post, was not mentioned by Tracy to criticise this dentist.

I am trying to see things from both their sides here and it's not easy. Certainly, some of what this dentist stated was an attempt to indicate certain circumstances that were private were also very difficult for him as a dentist, as he is only qualified in a certain area to help a patient. Other things may have been out of his control, which he did not elaborate on and only hinted at to attempt to give the reader an idea of the position he may have found himself in, which may have been an added difficulty in this entire thing. He did not divulge that for reasons of patient confidentiality.

I just feel that for the sake of fairness, there needs to be both sides heard and I felt he stated things as well as he could, at least from his side he did.

I don't know exact facts, I"m only going by what's been said. That's between hiim and Tracy, but patients do have a right to warn people about any medical professional if the problem is indeed serious and factual and especially if the problem is repeated towards other patients. Many patients do not have a lot of come-back, nor the money to take court action. Often they are left disallusioned, hurt and frustrated, and financially worse off, which is why on forums, they are at least able to have some outlet. So long, once again, that it is totally based on fairness and fact, as the dentist in question maybe unnecessarily attacked and harmed by statements that may not be totally justified.
Other than that, it's a risky postiion to put oneself in and can be open for court action if care is not taken.

Also, I personally don't feel a dentist should ever guarantee 100% results, regardless of past success with other patients. There are actually no guarantees in life (aside from death). To tell a patient such a thing and things not turning out as promised could lead to disappointment and upset/anger and I believe this is a pretty bold statement to make. Mercury takes a long time to remove and there is also no way of knowing whether the treatment itself will effect 100% cure.

Though the dentist has offered a refund in that situation, which is a wonderful offer, I just don't feel it's a great move. HOwever, if the offer is genuine, it does show the dentist's confidence in his treatment (which he says Tracy turned down).

When re-reading Tracy's top post, there does seem to be some real problems and discrepancies in the areas that Tracy mentions. If you read, Tracy is not talking so much there about her general health outcome, but more about the work in question and seems to back that up by the second opinion of another dentist who said "I've never seen such poor dentistry in my life". that is a damning statement! If this is so, then certainly Tracy's accusations may well be justified in the areas she mentioned above. I'm a little confused if this is so, why those things were not addressed and rectified?....

I'll leave it at that, but certainly in any of these things, for the sake of fairness, one should consider and hear both sides.

Hi Bex,

As I said, perhaps the laws and ethical rules governing doctor/patient confidentiality are different in England. Although I'd be surprised if it is much different than what is practiced here in the U.S. because we derived the very concept of doctor/patient confidentiality from the English Common Law. Here in the U.S. it is unethical and considered a breach of doctor/patient confidentiality for a doctor to disclose patient information like this to a third party without the express consent from said patient.

I won't go into the semantics of the legal distinction between doctor-patient priviledge and the ethical distinction of doctor-patient confidentiality.

Anyway, basically the professional duty of confidentiality covers not only what patients may reveal to their doctors, but also what doctors may independently conclude or form an opinion about, based on their examination and assessment of patients. The rules protecting the confidentiality are quite inclusive. The duty of confidentiality even continues after a patient stops seeing or being treated by their doctors.

It's that simple.

Hugs,
SomedaySoon (Sharon)

Hi Sharon, I understand what you're saying. I am not familiar with a lot of this kind of stuff, so I am unable to really comment on that side of it, I just felt he was defending his position and possibly he may have felt rather hurt by the damning statements above, especially if they are not completely justified.

But as I said, if what Tracy says is accurate, then certainly it's of concern. But what we get on here is often one person's word against the other and it's hard for anybody else to comment, unless they've had their own experience with that person or there has been other negative reports that begin to mount up on a particular health professional that starts to become obvious they are not exactly all they've advertised.....

Hiya Bex,

Professionals (i.e., doctors, lawyers, CPA's) are held to a higher ethical standard when it comes to divulging information about their customers. The reason for this is because patients and clients place themselves in an extremely vulnerable position when they seek the expertise and services of a professional. It requires them to divulge extremely personal, sensitive, and private information. The relationship that is established -- the "bonding," if you will -- in that type of a relationship is considered rather sacred. Furthermore, the vulnerable position that a patient or client places himself/herself in is acknowledged and protected to a great extent by the "confidentiality" and "priviledged" doctrines. That's the very purpose of the Standards. Otherwise we'd have doctors and lawyers and CPA's all over the place divulging all kinds of information about people as was done here.

In my opinion, Dr. Heasham could have defended himself quite effectively without divulging all that he did. It's not as easy to defend oneself that way -- but it's the right way to do it.

Hugs,
SomedaySoon (Sharon)

Having read this I will not be posting again. anything I wrote was to protect others. I may have Mercury symptoms, but one thing I am not is a liar or fabricator of the truth, I would not be stupid enough to post anything which remotely bends the truth. It seems that this world has changed too much and the vunerable just keep getting slaughterd more and more until you have no one left who believes in you, even the people you think know your true heart. I've nothing more to say, except my concience is clear. Tracy

Tracy, If you want to hold a grudge against me, I'm sorry for that and regret the way I posted above now, when I realise how it must have come across to you personally. Hope you won't, because your side needed to be heard and again it informs others or alerts others to possible serious issues with that dentist. If he comes on and defends himself or gives his side, I thought it only fair to try and see things from his angle also. I didn't mean to forget yours and I'm sorry that I was too caught up in attempting to be the objective in this, and instead came across like I was siding with him and ignoring your testimony.

I feel bad, but it's posted and already been responded to, so it woud do no good if I went back and deleted or edited it! if I could, I'd probably remove it or change it and make sure I worded it much better, instead of coming across the way I must have to you.

Unfair of me, but that was not my intentional believe me. I was attempting to be the neutral viewer I guess, because I know how often many of us are blocked from giving our negative testimony by certain people on the internet who are trying to block people like us from exposing some very negative and serious mistakes in the dental/medical arena. But even then, I always had to take into account the other side and weigh things up carefully and try and make sure I was reading all views before coming to any kind of conclusion. Even the views of those I KNEW were telling the truth, I still backed off from posting anything till I had more than enough info to go on.

Hope you realise that was what I was trying to do here. otherwise I am too hasty to form an opinion before hearing others out also. It takes more than one negative post to be able to clearly see if the mistakes or negligence is truly applicable to that dentist, or wehter it was a bad experience for the patient, but a more isolated case...... I can't tell, I'm not familiar enough with Dr Heasham, but you are with your own personal experience, so I'm sorry how I came across.

Hope you will continue to post, as I meant no harm.

I am a nurse in the UK and i agree with Somedaysoon. Dr Hesham has chose to put himself in a vulnerable position and should have sought Tracy's agreement before posting, although i appreciate his need to defend his professional reputation. Forums like this can exert great influence and power.

Tracy have you considered taking your complaint to the British Dental Association and Dr Hesham have you suggested this course of action? Surely that would be be a much fairer and professional way of exploring this issue rather than relying on a forum such as this.

Dear all,

When Hesham El-Essawy says :

" I have been safely removing mercury amalgam fillings for the last 17 years and have successfully treated over two thousand patients, all of whom were cured from their many debilitating symptoms. "

Does anyone know how true this is? I am suffering severe symptoms of mercury poisoning, and have to consider all options in getting cured, but don't want to be taken for a ride. He clearly states that ALL of his patients get cured. Is there anyone else can back up these bold claims, or just him? There are people who have depression so bad they can't leave the house, or chronic fatigue so bad they can't leave the bed, so does ALL include these kind of people. I would love to know.

I have read with dismay the development of the above thread.
Regardless of who is wrong or right, I am frightened that a well-established practitioner like Dr. El-Essawy could reveal such details about one of his patients. Having an intimate knowledge of the British legal system, I feel he has left himself wide open to subsequent legal proceedings.
I have not beeen looking at posts on this forum for long, but my overall impression was that it is a medium for exchanging experiences, and nothing more.

Dear Russ I apologise to you for starting this thread, it was meant with the best of intentions. In hindsight it probably wasnt a wise thing to do. Apologies Tracy

Anonymous, as I posted above, I was initially shocked. After that, I was frightened that a doctor would violate patient confidentiality as was done here. Now I'm just plain angry.

As an aside: I personally believe that dishonesty hinders the growth of every industry. The dishonesty can be due to unethical behavior, greed, personal ambition, unconscionable sloppiness, or plain stupidity.

I don't believe that doctors are worthy of the pedestal status they are routinely given in societies. Doctors are just as fallible as all the rest of us. Societies consider doctors to be esteemed. I say that is a grave mistake.

As consumers of dental and medical services, I think that people must make themselves aware of the fact that the law recognizes that the confidential relationship that is part and parcel to seeking the services of a doctor is to be protected.

Any professional who does not hold the Code of Ethical Behavior dear, is a professional who's services I certainly will not be seeking. One could logically now ask, if a doctor is willing to violate patient confidentiality, what other ethics, procedures or methods would he be willing to abandon, thereby putting the patient at risk?

That's just my personal opinion.

SomedaySoon (Sharon)

"We never place permanent fillings until the patient sheds the entire body burden of mercury, and we do that to make sure that mercury does not find its way under her permanent fillings." Quote from Dr Hesham El-Essawy

Dr Hesham El-Essawy i am interested in the above statement. As it can take decades, probably a lifetime for a person to shed their entire body burden of mercury do you ever manage to place permanent fillings? Plus how do you know if a person has shed their "entire" body burden of mercury. I am not aware of the existance of a test that can determine this. Perhaps you can enlighten me? Also when you say that mercury will find its way under permanent fillings if a person hasn't shed their entire body burden of mercury what do you mean by this?

"Tracy admits on these pages that she did not take the detox that I prescribed for her (which happened to be the best in the world by the way, as shown by our detailed experiments)". Further Quote by Dr Hesham El-Essawy.

Again Dr, when you say your detox is the best in the world, how do you actually substantiate this bold claim?

Thankyou for these posts and you have picked up exactly on the points I have mde both on here and on my E - mails to Dr. El-Essaway, which fortunately I have kept. I know I was given permenant fillings or at least thats what I was told and believe I paid for, I thought the whole idea of the vapour machine was to ensure no Mercury was left in teeth. I know I cant go into too much detail, but I know of two other people who have not been able to use the detox. I just hope that like some have you already have began to question some of the points EL-Essaway made, you will understand what I am up against, as I stated no professional is perfect, but honest, open communication is everything.

FFrom Dr Hesham El-Essawy


Dear All,


Re: Tracy

With the utmost of respect to all the contributors, including those who were attacking me unfairly, and Tracy who is trying hard to defame my name, I must write again to explain some facts.

Tracy accuses me of placing some shoddy PERMANENT FILLINGS in her teeth, and to sort this point once and for all Tracy, may I ask you to publish the copy of the estimate/consent form which you have signed and in which is written that the fillings are indeed temporary, not permanent. Please have the courage to do just that.

It would be very decent of you if when you ascertain the truth for yourself that you come back to this forum and honourably announce that you made a big mistake and that the fillings are indeed temporary.

The readers will notice that those contributors who graced me with their visit before do indeed have temporary fillings, not permanent ones. What astonishes me is that Tracy went to a dentist who charged her £700.00 and told her that the fillings were permanent!!!

As to your progress or lack of it, I am prepared to have a professional third party of your choice examine you for mercury load in the body as it is now and as it will be in one year’s time, and provided that you agree to follow a proper detox for that period of time, if your symptoms do not improve I shall refund your money without a word being said. But you will have to give the process about twelve months to work, not just the three months that you have so far, especially when I told you explicitly that your progress will be slow!

As a person who bent over backwards to help and accommodate Tracy and her side in view of the immense pressures that they placed me under (they should know what I am talking about) I would love to think that Tracy’s campaign to defame me is based on misunderstanding rather than maliciousness.

As to the contributor who is wondering how we know that our detox is the best in the world, let me say this:
When you remove an amalgam filling from a tooth you will cause that tooth to be filled with mercury vapour. If that mercury vapour is not removed from the tooth and a permanent filling is placed over it you are asking for trouble, for the patient will either get worse or fail to improve (many of my patients come to me having had heir amalgam fillings removed elsewhere and when we do our challenge test on them we find mercury still present under their permanent fillings. When we remove their permanent fillings and detox their mercury from their teeth with our method they start to improve pretty fast.

For the removal of that mercury from the dentinal tubules you must do something, either mechanical such as drilling, or chemical, which is what we do. We discovered by cheer chance a herbal detox that works best of all (it is all explained, including the fact that we only put temporary fillings after amalgam removal for a long while until the patient sheds the mercury body burden, in our website www.el-essawy.com), and we know that because we tried everything else that you may have heard about, we have compared everything on that experimental model, which is the tooth cavity after amalgam was removed from it. The herbal detox that we use works by far the best, and it is made for us by Kitty Campion who is the Guru of Herbal Medicine in this country.

As to the contributor who is wondering how we know that the patient has shed the body burden of mercury, we send the patient for a Vega test which will reliably show that to us and we read the patient’s mercury content in the mouth and in the sweat, and only when all of these read zero do we start to replace the long-term temporary white temporary composite fillings with permanent ones.

Incidentally, our temporary fillings are white and are moulded on the patient’s original fillings in order to preserve occlusion. Perhaps that is what gave Tracy the false impression that they are permanent fillings!

Tracy keeps saying that she paid so much money for this work to be done, and again I call upon her to look in the consent form that she has signed to find out the itemised billing and why it came to so much, and when she satisfies herself with the truth perhaps she could come back and tell the contributors in this forum about the big mistake she has made. If Tracy would rather that I do that myself I will, but I must have her permission first.

As to the contributor who is so indignant that I am defending myself without divulging any details about Tracy other that what she herself put out into the public domain, I am sure that if she knows and considers the full facts involved she will be a bit more understanding of the situation and will see matters my way.

Tracy, I have all the evidence I need to refute all of your accusations, and I would like to invite you to either prove your allegations or allow me to show people the full truth. I say that because of the harm that you may have done to others who may have been in a situation to get their health back but will be put off by your evident lies. I would love to forgive you nevertheless, and if you wish me to do that, please show some good well for a change. I feel that I deserve a little better from you.


Hesham El-Essawy
www.el-essawy.com
Hesham@el-essawy.com

rom Dr Hesham El-Essawy


Dear All,


Re: Tracy

With the utmost of respect to all the contributors, including those who were attacking me unfairly, and Tracy who is trying hard to defame my name, I must write again to explain some facts.

Tracy accuses me of placing some shoddy PERMANENT FILLINGS in her teeth, and to sort this point once and for all Tracy, many I ask you to publish the copy of the estimate/consent form which you have signed and in which is written that the fillings are indeed temporary, not permanent. Please have the courage to do just that.

It would be very decent of you if when you ascertain the truth for yourself that you come back to this forum and honourably announce that you made a big mistake and that the fillings are indeed temporary.

The readers will notice that those contributors who graced me with their visit before do indeed have temporary fillings, not permanent ones. What astonishes me is that Tracy went to a dentist who charged her £700.00 and told her that the fillings were permanent!!!

As to your progress or lack of it, I am prepared to have a professional third party of your choice examine you for mercury load in the body as it is now and as it will be in one year’s time, and provided that you agree to follow a proper detox for that period of time, if your symptoms do not improve I shall refund your money without a word being said. But you will have to give the process about twelve months to work, not just the three months that you have so far, especially when I told you explicitly that your progress will be slow!

As a person who bent over backwards to help and accommodate Tracy and her side in view of the immense pressures that they placed me under (they should know what I am talking about) I would love to think that Tracy’s campaign to defame me is based on misunderstanding rather than maliciousness.

As to the contributor who is wondering how we know that our detox is the best in the world, let me say this:
When you remove an amalgam filling from a tooth you will cause that tooth to be filled with mercury vapour. If that mercury vapour is not removed from the tooth and a permanent filling is placed over it you are asking for trouble, for the patient will either get worse or fail to improve (many of my patients come to me having had heir amalgam fillings removed elsewhere and when we do our challenge test on them we find mercury still present under their permanent fillings. When we remove their permanent fillings and detox their mercury from their teeth with our method they start to improve pretty fast.

For the removal of that mercury from the dentinal tubules you must do something, either mechanical such as drilling, or chemical, which is what we do. We discovered by cheer chance a herbal detox that works best of all (it is all explained, including the fact that we only put temporary fillings after amalgam removal for a long while until the patient sheds the mercury body burden, in our website www.el-essawy.com), and we know that because we tried everything else that you may have heard about, we have compared everything on that experimental model, which is the tooth cavity after amalgam was removed from it. The herbal detox that we use works by far the best, and it is made for us by Kitty Campion who is the Guru of Herbal Medicine in this country.

As to the contributor who is wondering how we know that the patient has shed the body burden of mercury, we send the patient for a Vega test which will reliably show that to us and we read the patient’s mercury content in the mouth and in the sweat, and only when all of these read zero do we start to replace the long-term temporary white temporary composite fillings with permanent ones.

Incidentally, our temporary fillings are white and are moulded on the patient’s original fillings in order to preserve occlusion. Perhaps that is what gave Tracy the false impression that they are permanent fillings!

Tracy keeps saying that she paid so much money for this work to be done, and again I call upon her to look in the consent form that she has signed to find out the itemised billing and why it came to so much, and when she satisfies herself with the truth perhaps she could come back and tell the contributors in this forum about the big mistake she has made. If Tracy would rather that I do that myself I will, but I must have her permission first.

As to the contributor who is so indignant that I am defending myself without divulging any details about Tracy other that what she herself put out into the public domain, I am sure that if she knows and considers the full facts involved she will be a bit more understanding of the situation and will see matters my way.

Tracy, I have all the evidence I need to refute all of your accusations, and I would like to invite you to either prove your allegations or allow me to show people the full truth. I say that because of the harm that you may have done to others who may have been in a situation to get their health back but will be put off by your evident lies. I would love to forgive you nevertheless, and if you wish me to do that, please show some good well for a change. I feel that I deserve a little better from you.


Hesham El-Essawy
www.el-essawy.com
Hesham@el-essawy.com

From Hesham El-Essawy

Re:Tracy.


In an earlier posting Tracy said, and I quote, “When trying to contact Dr. El -Essway we are often told her not available and out of the country. People are obviously free to make their own decisions, but personally I wouldnt send my cat to him.

Well Tracy, the only reason you were told that I was abroad was that I was abroad!

I was actually invited to give three lectures about mercury toxicity from dental amalgam, in Egypt from the 14th to 24th of December 2006, and I believe that my nurse told you that I will respond to your letter when I come back, which I did, and was never incidentally been graced with a reply, instead I stumbled accidentally on your reckless and thoroughly undeserved attempts at defaming me.

Dr. Hesham,

I would suggest that the next time you need to fill your Continuing Professional Development requirements as part of the General Dental Council's ("GDC") requirements for continuing education for dental professionals, that you take a course in ethical guidance.

Specifically, I bring your attention to the GDC's Standards for Dental Professionals and the Principles of Patient Confidentiality. These guidelines are published by the GDC and are readily available to you.

You have an ethical duty and a legal duty to keep patient information confidential. The Principles of Patient Confidentiality says, in part:

1. Duty of confidentiality

1.1 Patients are entitled to expect that you will keep the information you hold about them confidential.

1.2 Confidentiality is central to the relationship of trust between you and your patient.

1.3 The duty of confidentiality applies to:

- all members of the dental team; and
- all information about the patient which you learn in your professional role.

1.4 You must keep information confidential even after a patient dies.

1.5 If it is necessary to release patient information:

- get the patient's consent to do so wherever possible (read our guidance 'Principles of patient consent' for advice on getting consent)

- make sure you release only the minimum information necessary for the purpose; and

- be prepared to justify your decisions and any action you take.


I am appalled that you would discuss a patient's case in the manner exhibited in your posts above without consent from the patient. There are no exceptions to the GDC rules on patient confidentiality other than having to disclose patient information in order to comply with a court order, or the need to disclose "minimal" patient information for the public interest in order to save someone's life in an extenuating circumstance.

This is all absolutely true and I am glad that someone else has posted this as I was going to do the same. His patient may have mentioned things on this forum which he wanted to discuss in private, but what he has done is clearly professionally unethical and I am appalled that someone has let us knowledgeable professionals down so badly.

From Dr hesham El-Essawy

To all those who love to do their fishing in muddy waters I would like to say that, there has been absolutely nothing that you would have learned from me here that you would not have already learned from Tracy over and over again. Once information has been made public by the person concerned who is in this case Tracy it stops being confidential and it will not be a breach of confidentiality to comment on them.

Tracy has falsely accused me of very serious matters in this forum and a few readers have believed her, and that is not in the patient’s best interest. She has made me appear as if I was a crook, and even a crook has the right to self-defence.

How could you have failed to notice that I have strictly limited my comments to her public comments, in other words you knew what you knew from Tracy first. To point out to a patient that her fillings are not permanent as she is saying but temporary is not at all a breach of confidentiality. I have kept all the confidential information relating to Tracy (and there are some relevant ones to this case) absolutely confidential, even though it would have helped my case to reveal some evidence against her accusations, but I did not.

I can assure every one that we take ethical considerations very seriously here. All my honourable patients would testify to this fact.

Hesham El-Essawy
www.el-essawy.com
hesham@el-essawy.com

[quote]From Dr hesham El-Essawy



Tracy has falsely accused me of very serious matters in this forum and a few readers have believed her, and that is not in the patient’s best interest.
















Aren't you confusing the patient's best interest with your own?
How would the fact that a "few" forum readers here might believe Tracy's version of the events "not be in her best interest"? If you're so concerned about your patient, why not try again to contact her and sort things out? If she doesn't want to use your services then so be it.


It seems to me that you're making the situation far worse by continuing to discuss the situation in public. If it's not unethical for you to do so, it seems you are at the least truly pushing the ethical envelope here. Why take the risk?

HI there, I feel this dentist is being unfairly judged on here. Tracy chose to make this public on a forum, as anybody is free to share their experience to hopefully help others. In this case, it was a negative report.

Because this dentist in a way was forced to also get on here
to defend his position (wouldn't you?) he's now criticised for doing so and told he's breached her confidentiality, which he has not.

This is not putting Tracy down, but just seeing this from any perspective, no matter who the accuser is. This dentist has not conducted himself in an unethical manner, nor breached any aspect of confidentiality, in fact, I feel he has been very controlled and respectful, considering the risk to his career.

If someone brings this up on a forum, surely the accused has a right to reply? I am certain he is trying to work this out with Tracy offline as well, and hope that is happening, but if he's continuing to be criticised up on a forum for giving his side and case, then he has a right to respond and defend, which he's trying to do.

Sorry, that is my view. Tracy, this is not against you, so I want to make that very clear. I am speaking only of a person's right to defend, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. His case should be heard. As Tracy's was also.

And I'm disappointed and bewildered at the unfair attacks on his position from others who for reasons I do not understand keep stating he's breached confidentiality, when he has certainly not done this. He's had to address this in some detail on occassion in order to efficiently defend his case, in some areas it may seem he's bordering on the personal, but I found it very carefully done and saw mainly he tried to address the dental side as much as he could. I gathered from what I read, that there were some VERY personal sides to this that may have impacted far more in this case than we realise. In sharing that, it may have helped this dentist far more with his case and the reader to understand, but due to patient confidentiality, he is unable to share that and he has respected that.

I know many of us are angry with some dentists, or things have happened because of them in our lives. Unfortunately, this can then cause us to have it in for them, so it won't matter what he says or how he defends himself, he may find himself attacked regardless. Or have every aspect of his post pinpointed and picked at.

I find that unfair, and I think no matter what our experience, to see things also from his perspective as well as Tracy's is only fair.

Once again, as he stated, he has only brought up things that was already stated on a public forum before. So I'm not taking sides here at all, I feel for Tracy, but I do feel for him as well.

It is right to defend and address the situation as clearly as possible so the reader "may' get a better idea of the situation.

I hope they both can sort something out. I don't feel there was any deliberate malice here, just a very difficult situation!

In Response to Dr Heasham El-Essaway

The effectiveness of VEGA testing is questionable. The only study i was able to see (on the internet) said it was ineffective. DO you have any research based evidence to substantiate it effectiveness (i.e any published studies)

Secondly testing the breath and sweat will not tell you what the overall body burden of mercury is. Mercury can be held in organs such as the brain indefinately. So to use these tests to determine and state to patients that they have shed their entire body burden of mercury or not would be inaccurate and misleading.

Thirdly bio compatability tests are also limited. It is possible to have sensitivities to materials without anything showing up in blood results. This can happen with people and allergies

You also state that you undertake challenge tests. These have been found to be detremental to mercury toxic individuals because of the amount of mercury it mobilses and potentially redistributes around the body causing further damage. If you dont know about this issue please read Andy Cutlers book "Amalgam Illness - Diagnosis and treatment"

You also make the claim that your treatment is the best in the world. No one can substantiate such a bold claim. To be able to credibly do so you would have had to have undertaken sound research on all the various detox methods used in the world and critiqued them along with your own. If you have actually done this I would be interested in looking further at the studies.

Richard,

There is one factor in research that is not given full consideration, and that is the skill of the operator. I have seen some very useless Vega test reports, but I know from direct experience that it is a wonderful instrument that helps my patients consistently and without fail. I draw your attention to one of Tracy’s complaints (again!) which was that she had to be given 17 vials of sedation over the three hours. That was something new to me to see a patient who needed that much, and as she mentioned, she was not even fully asleep. Phillip Weeks, the very skillful health practitioner who did the much abridged Vega test for material compatibility for Tracy phoned me to say that she is ok with that sedative but she will have to be given a lot of it. She was kept consciously sedated all along but she surely needed a lot of it as the Vega machine determined. I can tell you of many experiences that will show you why I have faith in Vega testing. My confidence in it started from zero and went up all the way. Let me tell you, it has saved my own life.

Once again, the Vega is as good or as bad as the person pressing the buttons. I personally cannot get my brain to understand how it works, but, I do not use it myself. We are very fortunate that we have a highly skilled team to serve our patients.

As to judging the body burden of mercury, testing for mercury in the breath is just one piece in the puzzle, and it looks at excretion ability. We additionally look for the Vega test reading and, most importantly, for the patient’s led rating of his or her subjective percentage improvement.
As to mercury in the brain that you say stays indefinitely, I big to differ. When you observe like we do how depression is usually but not always one of the first symptoms that go, you must wonder, if depression is to do with the brain and mercury stays in the brain, then why is it one of the first symptoms that go? That, together with the improvement in brain fog, concentration, short-term memory, which all improves, would argue against the assertion that mercury does not leave the brain.
Yes, I am familiar with Andy Cutler and his book. With the greatest of respect, he did not remove amalgam for anyone and he has not had the direct one to one experience that we had. Much of the information contained in his book is yesterday’s knowledge to us. I believe that we have moved along some distance ahead in the care of our patients.
As to compatibility test, we do not use blood tests for that as they are not sensitive enough, we use Vega testing and it serves us very well indeed.
As to what you say that “the challenge test is detrimental to the patient, I think you must have meant by that the administering by the patient of DMSA and the testing of mercury in the urine, and that is not what I meant by the challenge test as we apply it.
What I meant by “the challenge test” is what we use to find out if there was any mercury left under the permanent white fillings of the patient who had his amalgam removed but experienced no improvement.

In our challenge test we get the patient to rinse for three minutes with our wonderful herbal detox, and that brings the mercury reading in the mouth from say 30 to zero. We wait another ten minutes and we test again, and when we find that the reading has shot upwards we know that the detox has dragged mercury from under the white fillings. We never do anything that can be remotely detrimental to our patients.

I do agree with you however that administering DMSA is detrimental to the patient’s health, and not for the reasons that you mentioned along with other people. The real reason as we discovered from our own research is that DMSA itself contains a huge amount of mercury, the mercury that shows in the urine is not one that was mobilized out of the tissues but an expression of the huge mercury load placed on the patient by taking that DMSA. I strongly advise against taking DMSA, contrary to Andy Cutler of course.

As to my claim that our herbal detox is the best in the world, I would like you to repeat the experiment that I did to find that out and it is easy to do. When you remove amalgam, read the cavity, and then apply any of the known detox formulas that you know of, and you will easily come to the same conclusion as our selves. Try it and see for yourself, the results are quite reproducible.

Best wishes.

Hesham El-Essawy
www.el-essawy.com
Hesham@el-essawy.com

I absolutely and totally agree with Bex on this one!
Give the guy a break!

Sorry to carry this on but I think what Tracy posted may have been read by many on this forum, but we are wise enough to make our own decisions and question things if we feel strongly enough about it. We are all adult enough to make our own informed choices. However I have to say I'm sorry Dr El-Essaway but in trying to defend yourself I believe you have only made people question your methods more. I have been using DMSA and find it difficult that it would be reccommended by Andy Cutler if it wasnt safe. I think this must be proven by someone as there will be a lot of worried people on this forum. Alot of people follow and trust his protocol. I find someone who uses the word DEFAME slightly worrying too, do you rank yourself above any other. I have looked at your site and wa quite impressed, but what you've posted on here is going to leave some people with grave doubts. I think you have done yourself harm, but thats just my opinion.

Dr Hesham El-Essawy

Thankyou for taking the time to respond. You have clarified quite a number of areas of confusion for me and added some more food for thought. I have found it useful getting some of these issues out into the open a bit more.

Regards
Richard

Dr El-Essawy

Please can you publish your research that shows DMSA contains mercury? I'm sure that as a professional you will be happy to validate such a controversial statement.

Many thanks

Dear Dr El hesswy
Please show us proof that DMSA contains mercury, if not, it only proves you are a money maker as you cant make money on DMSA yourself only your detox treatments and telling people to stay away from the one safe drug to use to rid mercury of the body.

Perhaps it's Cutler or Huggins who are the money makers. Have you read any of Huggins' books? So many unsubstantiated statements.

At least here, Dr El-essawy has been man enough to come on the forum, explain his methods, deal with queries and state his views on mercury. How many other dentists have done that?? Give the guy a break.

I don't know whether Andy Cutler has any links with companies that produce DMSA, but I still think that such a powerful statement - DMSA contains mercury - needs further clarification and back up. It also contradicts the experiences of the many people and autistic children who have got well using DMSA. If it contained mercury, they would have got worse.

DMSA is not without controversy, there are many articles detailing problems with DMSA and DMPS.

As I understand it, if you had a mercury vapour testing machine that was accurate, it would be easy to test whether DMSA had any mercury in it by gargling it or even testing or vapours when excreting from a challenge test. Simple and logical.

I'm not doubting that it would be easy to show whether DMSA contains mercury or not. So let's have the proof ...

Well I have asked Dr El Essawy about that in the past and from memory what I wrote was along the lines of the answer, which for me suffices.

Being able to test DMSA for mercury is not the same as proving that it contains mercury. This explanation does not satisfy me.

Just to clarify, I have been told that dmsa has in fact been tested and mercury vapours found. Satisfied?

This could be an unsubstantiated rumour, or it could be scientific fact. Can you point me to the relevant research / studies? Thanks.

From Dr Hesham El-Essawy

Dear All,

Those who are doubting what I said about DMSA all they need to do to verify my statement is to get a DMSA solution and read the mercury vapour coming out of it. It is easy really.

in my experience when I took that reading from the batch that I got which I was told by a well known nutritionist that it is pharmaceutical grade, the mercury reading was 450 µgm per cubic meter. That was a shock to me at the time.

I am talking here about an easily reproducible experiment if you want to satisfy yourselves.

By the way, I am not prone to making wild unsubstantiated statements, and any one who accuses me of being a money maker or money grabber or the like is welcome to exchange his bank balance with mine. My reward is much more in the progress and recovery of the people we help, not in what they pay us for it. And I am not trying to put down some body else’s products to promote mine as the herbal detox we use is not mine anyway.

Is it not time for contributors to this forum to resist the lure of “Tracyism” and refrain from falsely accusing people and trying to blacken their name unfairly?

Dr Hesham El-Essawy
www.el-essawy.com
hesham@el-essawy.com

Dr Heasham, I dont know why you think I'm luring anybody. I have contacted people and asked for comments to discontinue, but I have no power over what they post or question. These posts are nothing to do with me. You chose to come onto the forum to defend yourself, which is of course your right. The people who are posting are asking questions about methods you have posted. I cant stop that. But I think if you read them carefully, like I said before these are adults, trying to find answers and are not questioning your abilities. Well thats the way I see it. If you think I have anything to do with it ,you are wrong, I have not put on any posts or spoken to anyone about it. These people will not follow like sheep, they are educated and able to think for themselves. I even know of a couple of people who since you posted have decided to come to you. Believe me on a forum like this my voice is not that important and people will still choose their own way Tracy

Please tell us the name of the company, the DMSA was made.
I dont believe this for one minute anyway and if you would like to prove to us that DMSA does contain mercury i will be more than happy to visit your dental office and you can prove it in front of me. I only live a couple of miles away, i could bring my own DMSA aswell.

Just a few thoughts. Not taking any side here, but feel this needs to be said.

First, I agree that patient confidentiality (at least from US standards) was breached in some of the above posts. Tracy was indeed made to look bad. Tracy, don't worry it doesn't change the view of those who follow this forum regularly.

Secondly, I have been using ALA exclusively for three months waiting for three months after amalgam removal. I had waited to try DMSA because of some of the bad press that I have heard.

Truth is, after I tried it I am impressed. I have made more progress since adding the DMSA than before. Admittedly though, I am one of those who feels better while chelating. It's hard to believe that there is mercury in it.

I guess what we have to do here is...sift through all of the information available and try to make an educated guess. At the same time we need to keep our ears open to new avenues if these aren't working for us. For now, my chelation expericence has only showed positive results with DMSA.

It was good to hear your positive results with DMSA. I was interested to read about them.

For anyone that might want to learn more about the issue of doctor/patient privilege and confidentiality, the guidelines are easily accessed via the internet (both US guidellines and British guidelines).

Those of you who might be interested for future reference and dealings with doctors/dentists, the theory behind the doctor/patient privilege and confidentiality, is, in part that: the privilege of the confidence belongs to the patient. That means that the patient is free to discuss his/her experiences without permission or approval from the doctor.

Because the privilege of confidentiality belongs to the patient, the doctor must get approval and permission from the patient to discuss any aspect of his/her case with another party.

To reiterate, the privilege of the confidence belongs to the Patient, not the Doctor.

This is true in the US and in ENgland.

If a doctor feels the need to defend himself because he does not agree with a particular version of events or the opinion of his patient, he still must get permission from his patient to discuss the case.

That's not saying that a doctor can't defend himself. As a poster mentioned above, the doctor in this case could have defended himself in this Forum by using a much broader approach and without discussing the patient's case. It would take creativity and some sophistication -- but it could have been done.

Ethics are just as important as skills in doctors. In fact, ethics play an enormous role in the profession as a whole. There are reasons for these guidelines and they should not be overlooked.

Tracy might not care that her confidences were breached. However, I still think what has occurred here could be a valuable lesson for everyone.

Ethical guidelines are boundaries. Boundaries are needed -- rather like fences are. If fences are removed and the boundaries become blurred or disappear, then we have nothing but a bunch of animals running wild, trampling over each other, causing untold damage.

Sorry for the lousy metaphor.

I would like to say that I was suffering from very severe post viral fatigue. All of my doctors said that nothing could be done. It was debilitating and I was on social security benefits and couldn't afford any dental work to have my amalgams removed.

I desperatly wanted my mercury removed because a health practitioner told me that it may be causing my chronic fatigue.

I went to see Dr El-essawy in Harley Street. He removed my mrecury fillings for NO COST as I was already neck high in debt. I would like to say he has been very generous and I am well on the way to recovery. I am now able to work part time, and will, when I can pay Hesham for his dental work. I believe he has saved my life.

Maybe other people have had bad experiences but all I can say is what happened to me

Certainly appreciate your story Susan. Some of us need to hear as much info as possible before making these massive decisions, as some of us, like yourself, have spent a "small" fortune already.

I, too, appreciated your story Susan. I don't believe that anyone is saying that Dr. El-Essawy has no redeemable qualities. We just feel that he has shown some unethical behavior in his posts. I'm very happy for you as I wasn't as fortunate as yourself and had to take out a loan to pay for my amalgam removal. Again, that was kind of him to help you out.
Sometimes, it's hard to be objective when the person being discussed has done an act of random kindness for us. Just he same, I'm sure we all appreciate your post. Helps to keep us balanced.

On the other hand, I would not go to any dentist who would breech my confidentiality rights as was done to Tracy.

Hi,

I have only just found this new site as I have been very ill for the past year and so have not been active on any of the newsgroups and lists I belong to and I was shocked to find how some people have been defaming the name of Dr. Hesham El-Essawy.

Dr. El-Essawy is one of the most qualified mercury free dentists in the UK with years of experience under his belt. He certainly knows how to do his job and not only this, but he shows true compassion to his patients as he has been where they are...near to death's door due to mercury poisoning.

I read Hesham's reply in his defence and there was nothing unethical in his statement. Hesham was defending himself against the claims of Tracey, and this he had a right to do. We heard Tracey's side of the story and we heard Hesham's...there are always two sides to any story and this is needed for us to see the full picture. But, as we saw, Hesham only told us what Tracey did herself!

As everyone could see, Tracey failed to tell us everything on her side. Nobody can go into something whether it be a dental or a medical procedure and only do half of what the dentist or doctor recommends. We have to trust doctors and dentists and it would seem that Tracey did not trust Hesham. This seems to be down to the fact that she was unsure of the tests and detox which were needed for her treatment. Surely Tracey should asked before her appointment for the treatment what it entailed and checked out what she was not sure of? If she had done this she would have found that, just as Hesham explained, Vega testing has been used for years in the UK and is a very reliable piece of machinery. I had my first Vega test 8 years ago and was astounded at the results. It picked up on many allergies and diseases which I had suffered from (and some I'd even got rid of) for years since a child and I know the machine was correct in this as I had NOT given the practitioner who did the tests any information regards to my health.

If patients do not follow what Hesham (or any other dentist for that matter) asks them to how do they expect to get well? How do they expect there not to be problems? There has to be trust on both sides and Hesham trusted Tracey. She should have been totally honest with Hesham with regard to her health. No patient can undergo treatment, with any dentist, by insisting it be done on their terms and not on the dentist's terms. It is the dentist who is the qualified one, not the patient.

I have been referring people, through my website, to Hesham and will carry on doing so. One or two 'bad stories' does not make a dentist a bad one, especially when we find out that things went wrong due to the patient and not the dentist.

Hesham's offer of a refund was genuine as this is his policy. He offers a 'money back guarantee' if the patient is not satisfied with the work done and does not see an improvement in their health.

As for DMSA containing mercury, this is something which I learned some time ago, and not I may add, from Hesham. I've read this numerous times from various different sources.

As for sending your cat to Hesham, although he said he doesn't treat animals, I'm sure if he did he'd have absolutely brilliant results as he does with his human patients. Maybe it's something he should think about? lol (If you do Hesham..make sure you clean up all those cat hairs before I pay you a visit...they give me terrible sneezing bouts! lol)

Regards to all.

Lyn Rennick (London)
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Lyn@LynRennicksAMPSsociety.co.uk
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You have some nerve coming onto this forum and making judgements about something you know nothing about . You do not know the full story or indeed have all the facts. This is between Dr heasham and myself and any other questions asked are asked by people making their own judgements and enquires. I think you should stop and think very carefully before you make remarks about something when you dont have the full facts. People on here had agreed to stop all this crap and youve started it off again I suggest that wont make you too popular amongst other forum users. I suggest if you want to make any more comments you keep me out of it, as I said you do not have the full facts and are making a lot of assumptions.

uh, "Lynn of London" -- I suspect that the Doc in question here has urged you to make this post. Nevertheless, I saw no mention of your profession. All of the professionals (i.e., attorneys, health care professionals, etc.) who have viewed Dr. Hesham's conduct here are in agreement that he has breached confidentiality.

Having said that, this is ultimately up to Tracy to decide whether she's bothered by such a breach. As for the rest of us who prefer to see a law abiding holistic dentist, we now know who NOT to see.

I think we need to give both Tracy and Dr Heasham some respect here and leave them both alone. If they want to go further in person, that is their decision. But both their sides were given, people made their comments and it was hoped it might be left at that and it had been till now.

We've heard them both out, we responded and continuing the argument by making further provocative statements to my mind, is unfair on both parties.

Lyn,
You imply, by using the term "refer," that you are some kind of medical professional. I have read your website from top to bottom, and it is clear that you are no more or less than the majority of users on this forum.
Your whole website is founded on your "cure" having seen a dentist, whose name is available to anyone who cares to visit your site.
Obviously you have had some form of relapse recently, so would you be prepared to express similar apprehension in your dentist, as was the case with Tracey and Dr. El -Essawy?

Tracy has a lot of friends on this site and some of us are aware that not only is she very unwell, but she is also going through some very traumatic events, and she dosent need a nobody like you on her case. You are nobody of any importance, so butt out, go find some other crap to stir and leave Tracy alone. Many will want to protect her, especially at the moment from having to deal with bullshit from an interfering B like you, so do us all a favour and keep your patheitc useless opinions ti yourself Mrs no one of any consequence.

Hi,

I am sorry if my words offended people here, but I only replied to what I read. I'm sorry if you did not like what I wrote or feel that I did not have any right in coming onto this forum and writing what I did. As I said, I was not active on any newsgroups for a year as I was ill so I was not able to reply to any postings at the time they were being posted.

For those who do not know, I have had my website for 5 years and I have had hundreds of people write to me for advice and asking me for the name of a good mercury free dentist in their area, one who I could recommend. I have a full list of mercury free dentists in the UK and Eire on my website, which was given to me by the Treasurer of the British Society of Mercury Free Dentists, one of whom is Dr. Hesham El-Essawy.

People write to me after they have been to a dentist and they let me know how it went and whether they would recommend others use the same one. I can't say that I have had good reports back from all the dentists whom I have had on my list but when there have been a few complaints about the same dentist I have removed the name. But this has only happened once and nobody has ever complained about Dr. El-Essawy.

I do not claim to be a professional in the field of mercury free dentistry. I have gained the knowledge which I have by having lived with the symptoms of mercury poisoning for many years, listened to other peoples stories of how they have also suffered, been given information from professionals and done my own research from books and the Internet.

I would not like to express my apprehension in my dentist due to a relapse as I have not suffered a relapse. My website is NOT based on my "cure" as you call it because I am NOT cured! Although I am not prepared to go into all the details here, I will say that I still have a number of amalgam fillings in my mouth and am still suffering from the effects. Yes, I have met Hesham El-Essawy, but, without being rude, that is my business and nobody else's. But I would like to say that when my body is ready to have this toxin removed from it I will not hesitate in allowing Hesham El-Essawy to do the job for me.

I have only heard good reports back from people who have been treated by Hesham. All I did on this forum was to try to let people know that he IS a good dentist and that due to a patient not wishing to be treated by him on his terms, ended up worse.

I'm very sorry if this offended anyone.

Regards.

Lyn Rennick
(London)

HI Lynn, we're all entitled to our opinion, but you may have noticed this thread has already discussed a lot of it and I think it was becoming something ongoing, to where it would have been much better resolved offline between the dentist and Tracy. Certainly, I feel Tracy and Dr Heasham would like this also and have things settle down!

Your second post better explained things and if your experience with this dentist was good and you've heard good thing, that is great. But as for further discussions on who is right or who is wrong, or taking sides, when none of us REALLY know exactly all details, then I think we ought to leave Tracy and Dr Heasham work things out on their own and leave our opinion in that area out of it. Tracy has kindly asked for that, but she cannot stop people continuing to post regardless. I'm posting right now, so I'm not doing much better myself. Just wanted to make it clear though.

No hard feelings.

' and that due to a patient not wishing to be treated by him on his terms, ended up worse.' You still continue to make assumptions and statements about something you know nothing about. I suggest you think carefully before you post again and only post facts. You have no first hand knowledge about my treatment, but it seems you think you do. I dont know about anybody else but I always have doubts about some ones reason for continuing to post unproven statements, and it starts people questioning a persons integrity

I agree with Bex, that things should be left to settle down otherwise we will keep going round in circles. Lyn is entitled to her opinion and has spoken of her personal experiences as we are all entitled to do.

Anonymous - why were you so aggressive about this? This forum is all about helping people, not writing obscenities about other posters. Have a word with yourself.

Peace

Ray

Lyn, Can you furnish us with your sources that state that DMSA has mercury in it maybe a report, study or website.

Do you know Raygee people who know me , really know me know that I would do absolutely anything to help anyone ,even on the days Im feeling really bad myself. But something that started to really annoy me is that you keep adding all these posts saying how magically you recovered and yet youve openly admitted you couldnt use the Detox either, so did you follow the full protocol I think not maybe you were just one of the luky ones some of us have not been so lucky so maybe you should take a look at yourself and count yourself as one of the lucky ones but have more sympathy for those of us who believed in the detox and couldnt use it and i think maybe people like anonymous are getting a little annoyed at me being continually slagged off when im not a bad person and dont have a vindictive bone in my body I have 3 kids to look after a father with cancer and a mum critically ill in hospital so get off my case once and for all or at least get a conscience

This was put to rest once before, yet it has reared it's ugly head once again.

The first problem is that Tracy's name was used in this posters comments:
"Tracey failed to tell us everything on her side."
"Tracey did not trust Hesham."
"Surely Tracey should asked before her appointment for the treatment what it entailed and checked out what she was not sure of?"
"She should have been totally honest with Hesham with regard to her health."

Secondly, just because someone states there is no breach of confidence doesn't make it so. What many of us were talking about originally was that patients have rights both in the U.S. and England with regard to their privacy. No doctor or dentist worth his oats is going to breach that trust, for both legal and ethical reasons.

Now that this issue has been broght back up, Tracy does have a right to protect herself as she has been with this forum for some time (not like some of these posters who have only come on for the first time to defend someone and not to help others).

Regarding lyn Renick, its funny how she only came to this forum recently when it has been up and running for years, did someone put her up to this? Yes i think so.

At least Lynn identified who she is.......

And that makes a difference does it Ray, big deal, shes still no one of any importance. The important thing is that you have made your point time and again, things went well for you, so just as you have a right to say that , people who were not as fortunate have a right to say so. But just because she gave her name, so what, she still has no right to make judgements about me or my experience. Y ou know if someone's had a good experience and say so once, that seems reasonable ,but its almost like you just cant let it go , which has started me wondering exactly where you're coming from. As was mentioned before the majority of us are friends, some very close and come onto help each other, its a little worrying when some people only come on to keep making the same point again and again and I cant speak for anyone else, but frankly Im sick and tired of hearing your point now . I think we're all clear you are well, good for you

i think we should let this post drop now tracy is having alot to deal with at the moment no one knows what happened but tracy and hesham themselves so i think we should just leave it at that please.

I agree with Clare. Tracy has a lot on her plate right now. This isn't helping.

As to my fellow anonymous poster. Who cares what your name is here. At any given time there are 7 to 9 anonymous people on this forum. It is allowed here. For those who want a name, there are other forums that require membership. That's fine too.

Back to Tracy. Please leave her alone. Up unti now, this has been a very friendly, compassionate, and helpful group. Now others are coming on, it seems, only to argue. Tracy has added a lot to this group. It's not necessary to come to her safe place and trash her. As for anyone saying, "We're not trashing her." Just saying it doesn't make it so.

From Dr Hesham El-Essawy


I did not intend to come back to this forum, but am forced to do just that because of some of the recent obnoxious postings, and frankly on the face of it, the owners of some of these postings do not have any reason to be proud of themselves.

The attacks on Lnn are indeed abominable. She has helped thousands if not millions of searchers, and for no personal gain whatsoever. She is the sort of person, together with Pam, whose names I would love to put forward for the Queen’s Awards. She is hardly ever a candidate for attack by the unidentifiable posters on this forum.

And to you, the obnoxious poster who is implying that I am putting some people up to speak on my behalf, you would be lying if you say that. I have not approached any one to come to this forum and speak on my behalf. Had I wanted to do that, this forum would have been swamped by many thousands of posters who would defend me in a similar fashion to the valiant people who defended me here, and who would give their proper names and telephone numbers and not hide behind a thinly veiled anonymity, and who would tell you of their stories that would frankly amaze you.

I have not even contacted those who defended me here on this forum to thank them, with the exception of one who emailed me. I thank them all from the bottom of my heart for doing so here.

It is easy to join in the “bashing game” but not so easy to say, wait a minute, let us hear the defendant’s defence before pronouncing judgement on him. On this forum I was pronounced guilty before I even opened my proverbial mouth! How shameful!

It now transpires that this forum is made up of a group of friends supporting each other against any chosen victim, and any one who confesses an opinion that differs from theirs is a target for abuse! Frankly, what you did here to Lynn is disgraceful.

My main line of defence seems to have been forgotten in the middle of all the blablas. Here is a reminder; I asked Tracy to look at her estimate and consent form that she signed and come back to this forum and say it when she discovers that she has made a big mistake and that she has accused me falsely. She has not done so until now despite her frequent postings thereafter.

Tracy, I am still waiting. If you lost your copy I would gladly send you one, alternatively, if you would give your consent to do so I would publish it myself. That should hopefully put an end to this matter.


Tracy said in one of her postings that she knows of a couple of people who decided to consult me after seeing these postings, and Tracy, you are quite right about that, but, how did you know? In fact quite a lot of patients have come to see me after reading these postings and they also expressed their views about what they read, and I am not going to mention that here in case I upset one or more of the holy members of the anonymous gang. Those who defended the indefensible should be ashamed of themselves.


Tracy, we are all human and humans make mistakes. I accepted to treat you in good faith and with the full intention of helping you to recover your health and nothing else. Why you turned out like this I do not know. But I have not wronged you and you can verify that for yourself.

But it saddens me to see you suffering because of all this, after all, you sat on my chair and I owe you an assured amount of respect no matter what happens. I could have helped you just like I have thankfully helped thousands of other sufferers, I was there myself before and know how you and the others felt under the scourge of mercury toxicity, and that is why I am doing what I am doing, really to help others.

Tracy, to the discerning reader, your abstaining from producing the documentary evidence that I asked for to prove my innocence would work against your case.

If it helps you in any way, I would like to drop the whole thing and say that I forgive you what you did to me and am prepared to put it down as a mistake or a misunderstanding and no more.

I do indeed wish you the very best of luck and do wish you an all encompassing peace.
Now, may I respectfully ask the others to devote their time and energy to something a little more useful!

Hesham.
www.el-essawy.com
Hesham@el-essawy.com

I agree with Clare too; let us put this to bed, enough is enough...we are wasting good forum space here and it is just one 's word against another's...nothing is being proved here at all.

As you have read Dr Hesham I tried very hard to stop all this myself and as for how I know clients are coming to you, they simply told me so and as they will im sure verify to you they come with my blessings. As i have tried to explain to people on the forum I am under a great amount of strain at the moment having two very sick parents, although feeling extremely unwell, that has to be my priority at the moment even though it is highly stressful to deal with. I have no other feelings in my heart at the moment than utter guilt and frustration that I am not well enough to do my best by them, even though I am trying my best. Life is extremely difficult to say the least and I wish I could not only feel better, but feel some peace in my mind and soul, so that I am able to get through this trauma. I am not strong enough to argue with anyone about any issue at the moment and have no wish to do so. All I care about at the moment is being able to function to the best of my ability, which is pretty dire, in order to help the members of my family who are suffering terribly. Tracy

From Dr Hesham El-Essawy
Re: Tracy


Tracy,

In the beginning of this thread you said that you would not send your cat to me, and in the end of it you said that you sent me your friends for treatment with your blessings. That proves that you do indeed possess a very good nature and a big heart, and I am very grateful to you. I am equally sorry to have caused you grief on this forum and do apologize for it. If you ever wish me to continue with your treatment I want you to know that you will be most welcome.

I pray that your parents and yourself will be cured of all your ills and will enjoy the best of health and happiness.

Yours sincerely,

Hesham.

Thankyou Dr Hesham for that post. I am sorry that things got out of hand the way they did, I can only repeat I am under a great deal of family strain and am finding every day very difficult to deal with. Obviously under this kind of strain its hard to deal with your own health issues. I have tried so hard to keep going on behalf of everyone else but the strain of everything is becoming very hard to deal with. I still have a terrible sleep problem, getting probably two hours a night at the most, nothing seems to help this, and obviously my anxiety is sky high over recent events in the family. When I appear to be angry, I know it isnt specifically meant in my heart to be directed at anyone, but just the question I suppose thousands ask, why is all of this happening? I dont want to go into too much detail, but my mums symptoms are very similar to mine and of course I'm up against the NHS trying to save her. I don't want to appear to anyone to be whining and feeling sorry for myself, but friends know I am hanging on by a thread and my mind is in turmoil. To be honest its all just like one big nightmare and you wonder if and how its going to end. Tracy

Wow! I am from Michigan and just stumbled across this forum while searching for answers to the long list of questions I have pertaining to mercury poisoning. I am 40 years old and have not been myself for quite some time, probably due to the 30 or so silver fillings in my mouth. Anyhow, I just read this entire thread and I am very impressed by the unity and seriousness of ALL the posters here, including Dr.Heasham. I think it's great that Dr.H cared enough to show up at this forum to explain himself and share his knowledge. At the same time, I think its awesome that many of the posters here challenged his findings and stood up for one of their own members(Tracy). Thanks to all for the sincere way you carry yourselves here and I look forward to reading your posts in the future.....Scott

"The beauty of the soul shines out when a man bears with composure one heavy mischance after another, not because he does not feel them, but because he is a man of high and heroic temper."

—Aristotle

What do you mean about the fillings breaking or looking like they been glued? This concerns me now. I was going to get treated but not sure.

I want a proper dental check up and mercury free