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grame munro hall clinic #17289
03/29/07 04:14 PM
03/29/07 04:14 PM
clare  Offline OP
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Posts: 108
uk
hi ev1
i went to this clinic today for a cavitat scan turns out i have 3 cavitations but wen he looked at my fillings he asked who did them as one of the ingrediants was silver i had my amalgam removal done by hesham el essawy but the dentist said its not the type of material you would put in a mercury toxic person and that biocompatability testing was not proven to be accurate he said there is a blood test i could have to see wether my immune system is reacting towards the silver now im confused coz i really believed cavitations was my problem and that still could be the whole problem so im getting that done first i cant detox coz i got to many toxins in my body and he said that im not excreting mercury at all at that its just sticking to me organs today has been the worst of my life the traveling was horrific i had a panic attack and started to get really nausea i felt like i was being possessed sorry to bore everyone but im so confused about everythin and feel so bad i just cant wait to have these cavitations cleaned out hopefully then my body can start to heal properly.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17290
03/29/07 04:53 PM
03/29/07 04:53 PM
smitho  Offline
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Posts: 94
hi clare. now you have got me worried. whats been put in my fillings.
how did they know you have silver in your fillings.
surely hesham would know not to put metal in the fillings.
he told me his fillings are metal free.

do you mean that the vega testing. has not been proven to be accarate.

i was going to go to them before hesham. but the use no rubber.dam. or anything to block the throat.. but i think they do use a mercury vapour analizer..

hope dr hesham comes online to sort this one out!

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17291
03/29/07 05:13 PM
03/29/07 05:13 PM
clare  Offline OP
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hi smitho
im not sure how he knew that silver was one of the materials but i think he does have a mercury vapour analizer or somthin simular and yes he was talking about the vega testing not being accurate but im sure they use rubber dam cause they asked if hesham used one so i asumed they did im as worried as you are i feel like a guinea pig being tested on i just dont know what to believe anymore

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17292
03/29/07 05:48 PM
03/29/07 05:48 PM
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clare, did Hesham tell you the name of the composite filling he used on you? If not you could ask Hesham what the name of the composite filling was. Then do a search for an Material Safety Data Sheet on the internet and that should tell you what is in the filling.

In my opinion, it seems rather careless for a mercury-free dentist that is removing amalgams not to use a rubber dam. I mean .... I'd think that a dentist would want to use every protective measure that is available even to the point of redundancy to try and avoid mercury exposure when removing amalgams.


Re: grame munro hall clinic #17293
03/29/07 06:49 PM
03/29/07 06:49 PM
JoeUK  Offline
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Posts: 98
Birmingham UK
Thats quite worrying. I was planning on seeing hesham for my removal of amalgams and thought the composites would be metal free.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17294
03/29/07 06:53 PM
03/29/07 06:53 PM
clare  Offline OP
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uk
i will check it out maybe the other dentist got it wrong i will phone hesham tomorrow

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17295
03/29/07 06:58 PM
03/29/07 06:58 PM
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None the less, how awful for you , big sympathy

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17296
03/30/07 03:53 AM
03/30/07 03:53 AM
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that was me, Elvis, hope you slept ok last night.Feelin bad mad and sad for your trials.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17297
03/30/07 05:56 AM
03/30/07 05:56 AM
clare  Offline OP
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uk
thank you elvis
didnt sleep well last night had about 3 hours sleep legs still feel like jelly and i cant stomach any food im irratable and feel pysically sick phoned hesham doesnt come in till 11 so im waiting on a phone call see what he sais.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17298
03/30/07 01:48 PM
03/30/07 01:48 PM
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What did dr Heaham have to say, Claire? Thanks.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17299
03/31/07 04:08 AM
03/31/07 04:08 AM
clare  Offline OP
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Posts: 108
uk
hesham said that my fillings do not contain silver and how would the other dentist know this without knowing what material it was now im even more confused why would the other dentist say this if it wasnt true

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17300
03/31/07 06:24 AM
03/31/07 06:24 AM
Elvis  Offline
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Try not to worry Clare, you have enough to think about with the cavitations, whatever your fillings are right now prolly ain't going to make that big a difference. Most important thing is you don't torture yourself with the what-ifs and can try and rest and recuperate, Y'all been through an awful lot a stress.
Arnica 200 twice a day for shock is unbeatable and can't hurt at all, you can order it from Helios Homeopatic , and get a good night's sleep by whatever means.
We're ALL confused , give yourself a break for a while, I'm sure you will get to the bottom of it.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17301
03/31/07 07:01 AM
03/31/07 07:01 AM
richard  Offline
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Posts: 146
UK
You could ask the dentist at the munro hall clinic why he thought silver was in the fillings. Was he just making a wild guess or did he have some testing procedure he used?

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17302
03/31/07 08:15 AM
03/31/07 08:15 AM
JoeUK  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 98
Birmingham UK
Thats it.I would say do exactly what Richard says and this will clarify alot. If their is no evidence or sufficient reason to suggest then it could just be an assumption.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17303
03/31/07 08:46 AM
03/31/07 08:46 AM
Elvis  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2007
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Sometimes I wonder if dentists are like a bunch a over-educated, overpaid hairdressers who want to know who cut your hair last just so as they can tell ya what a bad job they did and ya shoulda come to them first.
No offense.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17304
03/31/07 09:01 AM
03/31/07 09:01 AM
tracy  Offline
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Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 928
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Dear Elvis I read your post about Arnica is it really effective and does it take long too work cos I badly need something for my nerves not to go into too much detail but at the moment my nervous system is absolutely shot to the point Im finding it really difficult to function as my mum is in hopital again and I am worried to death about her and there is a big family feud goin on which I am caught in the middle of I was so bad yesterday couldnt visit my mum and when I go to bed I wake all the time with panic attack so I am absolutely exhausted on top of bein ill I jump at every little noise I really need something Thanks Tracy

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17305
03/31/07 09:23 AM
03/31/07 09:23 AM
JoeUK  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 98
Birmingham UK
I found EyeQ Fish Oil Taking 4+ morning and night helpful for nerves. This adds fatty acids to the brain and helpsit combat stress and anxiety. Rhodiola has helped as well.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17306
03/31/07 10:29 AM
03/31/07 10:29 AM
tracy  Offline
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Thanks Joe I really need all the help I can get right now Its crazy since I became ill I realised that all stressfull things make me worse obviously and in the last two years my God have I had more stress with family members than I think I could have handled if Id been well no matter how I try and rest my mind never switches off cos of all the crap thats going on I think a dose of EST would do me good to blank out all the crap thats happened its hard to believe that when your next o fkin know your ill they just keep dmping and dumping Tracy

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17307
03/31/07 11:02 AM
03/31/07 11:02 AM
JoeUK  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 98
Birmingham UK
I know how difficult things can be. When I was well no matter how stressfull things got I never felt as bad as I do now. I just feel panic for no reason and spend most of my time trying to calm it down and relax.

EyeQ has helped this but its not a cure. you just have to take it a step at a time. Im going to see a CBT Therapist. They deal with all problems and will change your behaviour and help understand whats going on and why and what you can do.

All the best

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17308
03/31/07 11:13 AM
03/31/07 11:13 AM
Dental Holocaust  Offline
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Posts: 137
UK
Did an NHS doc advise you on CBT? One psychiatrist told me it's just a fancy term for positive thinking. There's no way anything like that could help me, because i'd just be too aware that it's poisons that are screwing up my thoughts, and the thought of sitting in front of a therapist who knows nothing about what most of us know on this forum, disturbs me. It depends what your problems and situation is, but ANY therapy made me feel more suicidal, because they just had no clue how i am affected, or most importantly, WHY.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17309
03/31/07 12:01 PM
03/31/07 12:01 PM
Lyn Rennick  Offline
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 19
Hi,

The machines which Hesham uses for testing are totally reliable and he would never put anything in your mouth which was going to harm you.

How did the Munro-Hall's know there was metal in your fillings? As far as I am aware, they don't do any testing of their own but send patients elsewhere. Have they now got their own test machines? I'd appreciate a reply so that I can update my website with the info if needed.

Thanks.

Lyn
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Lyn@LynRennicksAMPSsociety.co.uk

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17310
03/31/07 12:03 PM
03/31/07 12:03 PM
Elvis  Offline
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Tracy, I'm feelin mighty reluctant to make any suggestions, arnica is a common first-aid remedy for sudden traumatic events and is not dependant on your constitutional type ,a homeopath would determine which one you are so it's highly individual. At a guess, you would prolly benefit from either arsenicum 200, or aconitum 200 , I would try the ars. first , 1 pill 3 times a day for a week. These are fairly high doses so you would need to be careful to not antidote the remedies from EMF's like mobile phones, microwave if ya got one, also no peppermint toothpaste. (You can wrap the bottles in foil to protect them though) Best thing to do is call Helios 01892- 536393 and sometimes they give advice on the phone and you can order from them. In times of crisis, the low doses don't seem to have the desired effect so I don't know about the possibility of much relief from a 6x or 30 like they sell at Boots.
The best thing to do in a family feud is refuse to participate if they'll let you, it wreaks havoc on the nervous system, and quite often it doesn't make a darn bit of difference to finding a solution.
Best thing I learned from my Uncle Floyd who is a part time Chinese sage is; Never argue with a fool, passersby may not know the difference.
He got me right where I live on that one!
Hope any of this helps but my homeopathic licence hasn't come in the post yet .

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17311
03/31/07 11:02 PM
03/31/07 11:02 PM
JoeUK  Offline
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Birmingham UK
Im sure if you find a good therapist and actually explain to them the WHOLE SITUATION with toxins and how its helped others it can only be a benefit.

I know what you mean though about some counselling though.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17312
04/16/07 08:28 PM
04/16/07 08:28 PM
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Clare,

are you totally sure that the dentist you visited just took a little look at your white temporary fillings and said that they contain silver? even without knowing what type of material it was!

did you ask him if had x-ray eyes that can see silver through a white filling?

if what you say is true and not a result of a simple misunderstanding, I find it an astounding statement beyond belief. why did he say that I wonder! that is truly sad!

Dr. hesham el-essawy

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17313
04/25/07 05:01 PM
04/25/07 05:01 PM
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Anonymous
Unregistered

From Dr Hesham El-Essawy


According to this forum, one dentist took a look at my white composite fillings and claimed that they have silver, another (?) dentist told my patient that I put cadmium in her root canals and that my temporary fillings are nothing but bad permanent fillings! What will I be charged with next, putting radio-active plutonium in patient’s teeth?

Frankly, this is very difficult to believe.

Hesham El-Essawy.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17314
04/25/07 06:09 PM
04/25/07 06:09 PM
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I think most of the extreme accusations will dissipate. It's your honorable conduct that will remain. You've done a fine job of defending your positions.

Thanks for participating.


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Re: grame munro hall clinic #17315
04/28/07 08:00 AM
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Can you get your fillings tested to really see if their is any silver I think thats the best method than we know for sure whats going on.

I have heard of stories of people experimenting especially neuro surgeons and doing unwanted surgery and trying new things which lead to disaster and the patient not knowing a thing.

Re: grame munro hall clinic #17316
04/13/08 06:50 AM
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mati  Offline
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Was anything resolved about this?

I have been looking at this clinic and it looks good, so I wonder why there is not much about them in the discusions.

I have contacted the Munro clinic for their comments. I am sure that some testing had been done and maybe there was an error. We will see.


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