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Re: Amalgams all out today; What to expect?
#18299
04/30/07 08:22 PM
04/30/07 08:22 PM
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For me, I had immediate worsening after last removal, some headaches, crying and then feeling like I was being repoisoned.
Then went into a kind of slight remission of symptoms, as though things had improved. But later, about half a year to a year after that, I got worse again and then the stored mercury really started to leak out. And I was besieged by symptoms. It was like an on and off again nightmare. My body would lurch into attempting to push more mercury out that had obviously built back up from it leaking out of my organs. No sooner had I got into a massive detox ourburst of salivating and crying fits, than it would subside and I would feel cleaner as though I had improved. But this would only last a while, until more mercury would rise up to be excreted and the same thing would build until anothe eruption fo salivating and crying. I often had to lean over a bowl or the toilet because of it pouring out. IT was disgusting and something I could barely control.
It went on like that and I just had to aid it all with chelation spells, trying to speed the process up. OFten increasing the symptoms even more in the process and feeling like I was going crazy. But I didn't know what to do, as leaving my body to do it naturally was agonising slow and I felt the need to try and get more out of me. But either way, it was hard.
Andy's protocol in the end was the way to go, it allowed more removal of mercury without too much of the wild mobilisation from other ways that were totally and utterly interolable. His was not easy, but definitely better and I think through his, I then made more progress in the end than with any other. And I only used DMSA. So I hadn't even gotten onto lipoic acid, which he says is the far more essential chelator...so DMSA was even enough at that point!
So it's hard becuase it's different for everybody. I think you can only take it day by day and do whatever you can to help yourself. It would be great if we knew what to expect, but that's the thing with mercury, it's unpredictable much of the time. But certainly the stored mercury will have to start shifting out of you. The body will try to do that on its own, but you can aid it and speed it up with basic chelation or just with what you're doing now in the meantime.
Later, you can chelate properly to clear your organs/brain.
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Re: Amalgams all out today; What to expect?
#18301
04/30/07 08:46 PM
04/30/07 08:46 PM
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DMPS (oral), is actually better than DMSA. It is more tolerated and more effective. And the good aspect is you only have to take it every 6-8 hours, rather than every 4 like DMSA.
I would start taking it as soon as you can, because it may actually help symptoms as it chelates. Usually people expect all these side effects and are often suprised to discover it can actually make them feel better sometimes as they chelate.
Side effects are dependent on how seriously poisoned you are and what dose you're taking. You may need to start very low and work up if things are too much. The main thing is sticking to the frequent dosing to keep things even. That is even more important.
You "May" find some increase in symptoms during the chelatino around, or between rounds, depending on how your body responds. Some people feel better during chelation and worse inbetween on the breaks, some the opposite. At some point, you will have to expect some increase in symptoms, as the mercury has to be shifted out somehow. THe key is not to force yourself to do more than you can even bear. Problem is, some are so poisoned, either way they are in a state, so sometimes you have to tolerate intial big flare ups until enough merury is reduced to where things start going much easier.
I'd say you maybe pleasantly surprised. Many people I know of who are chelating with DMPS wish they could take it permanently because it makes them feel better. So hope that might encourage you a bit.
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Re: Amalgams all out today; What to expect?
#18302
04/30/07 11:06 PM
04/30/07 11:06 PM
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The IV DMPS is excellent in my opinion, nothing compares to that. I would also take the IV EDTA if they offer it to you, because chances are good, in this world, you have other metals to contend with also, like most people.
I use a DMSA formula, but not every 4 hours, just in the evening before bed, with a little bit of fresh cilantro to boost (not required). I also use chlorella throughout the day, maybe 3-4 times, about 1/2 teaspoon or so, you can do more if you like, in a glass of water with a little bit of fiber thrown in. That's my basic recipe for feeling fine and pretty normal every day, the DMSA at night (sometimes if I wake up at night I'll take a few more also, 25mg ea DMSA) and chlorella through the day. Drink plenty of water. Get plenty of fresh air and exercise. Eat greens. I take 2-3 days off from chelating each week, still do the chlorella w/fiber on those days. Lots of vitamins on days off (do not take vitamins with too much iron or copper), hyaluronic acid seems to help achy joints.
Get a colonic, next best after the DMPS. if you had a sore throat you need to clear your stomach of any mercury ASAP or it will leech from there for who knows how long.
Congratulations. I'm next, later this month...
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Re: Amalgams all out today; What to expect?
#18304
05/01/07 11:04 AM
05/01/07 11:04 AM
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for me it is a rollercoaster ride, one minute i feel okay, next im feeling terrible. I felt much better before removal, it was because my dentist didnt use all precautions which left me exposed to more mercury. Also, if mercury has affected your thyroid and adrenal glands, chelating will put a real strain on them and it could make you alot worse, so its wise to get these in order first. My symptoms after removal were, crying spells, ear ache, tinnitus, depression, fear, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, insomnia, night sweats, alot more but i cant think of them right now. It takes time for symptoms to go, i still suffer from these and its been a year. Im using ALA on its own, Andy cutlers protocol.
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Re: Amalgams all out today; What to expect?
#18305
05/01/07 01:07 PM
05/01/07 01:07 PM
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>Are you using DSMA and EDTA with amalgams still in?? According to Andy Cutler, that's really dangerous.
Yup, have to. My knowledge of mercury poisoning prior to this incident was near to null and void... I went to a dentist to get a crown for a chipped tooth with an old amalgam filling and he essentially ripped it down and washed it down my throat.
I feel much better Blicero, I probably would have died if it weren't for the great doctor I found to help me, I was in really bad shape. I can at least run again by now without all my bones aching, my hands are no longer numb, my kidneys have stopped aching.
I know all the things people say but obviously they are wrong. . >Also, even with amalgam out, using DMSA the way you're using it is very dangerous according to Cutler.
I disagree with Cutler. If I do not take the DMSA my hands start getting numb again, my neck gets very stiff, other stuff. And also, though I was unaware of how devastating the mercury posioning could be prior to this, I have chelated and cleansed for many years here and there, always with success and my health normally is excellent. I have been an organic food nut suince my mid-20's, have always eaten copious amounts of garlic with hommus and lamb chops, have used cilantro and spirulina for years, etc etc etc. all of these things which I do attribute my normally good health to and not vice versa.
It does not make sense to me to allow things like free mercury to sail through my bloodstream and take hold, it does make sense to use whatever means I can to flush it out out of myssystem asap, amalgams or no amalgams.
The longer a heavy metal stays within your body, the longer it will take you to recover because those metals are starving your body of oxygen and other nutrients. I don need permanet damage, thanks, but I will chelate whether Andy Cutler agres with it or not. I have 3 very well qualified doctors in agreement on this for me, helping me with this. Far as I know Culter also reccomends large amounts of ALA, and I saw a thread where someone was asking about constipation as a result... yes I too experienced constipation with the ALA when I took it too so I stay away from that. took me 3 days to get moving again last time. Now, THAT is dangerous when your body is loaded with heavy metals. I prefer my doctor's 30 years of experience with this and his advice to Cultler's any day.
hey I hear you are feeling better, congratulations again.
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Re: Amalgams all out today; What to expect?
#18306
05/02/07 05:32 AM
05/02/07 05:32 AM
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Everyone is different, one size doesnt fit all, personally i couldnt take cilantro or chlorella, i had horrifying results. I can handle DMSA and lipoic acid with no side effects really, i hope its working!
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