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i'm getting worse and worse.. algin, c, selenium.. nothing is helping.. I'm losing more and more brain fucntion... I can't think logicaly... only in patterns....don't know what's real... I feel the mercury in my brain is killng of thousands of cells a day.... I really am becoming a vegetable... I just cry all the time... my mother cres because of me and I know she's in pain but I don't have any feelings towrd towards her ... I can't function, don't care... this is it.... i just...

We went to a toxicologist yesterday and he said there's no way amalgams could have brought this up, he's worked there 25 years bla bla.... and he told me (and my mother) to het me a psychiatric help, cause he thinks it s schizophrenia....

truth is, I know it already is.... brought on by metals probably ... but I can't function.... I don't feel human....

and everybody now thinks I'm a waco.

and I am.

Oh sh*t Jinx!!! What the h*ll is one to suggest with this going on? I do not understand why there is nothing that is helping you. Strict candida diet with good fats? Seems to do what? nothing?

Then supplements, which dont seem to be helping either. I mean it's really hard to hear someone go through this and feel this useless. In your area, you just dont seem to have the kinds of people you actually need right there like Andy Cutler for example. Or someone else that is well up on all aspects of this.

Please, if the DMSA is not, has not helped, stop chelating at all. Obviously if it's not going to lift anything, then steer clear, because as you know, some here advise strongly against chelating with amalgams in. I am in two minds, but nobody wants to risk you to a worse fate.

The only reason it was ever suggested to do some "dmsa" chelation was hoping to heck there could be some stabilising of your symptoms just enough to maybe you could get the last amaglams out.

As you know, before doing any chelating, you were not functioning then either and could not even look at further amalgam removal.

Certainly I do not think the cilantro and ALA did you ANY favours. And never touch brain chelating agents at this point, especially due to the fact you are not under a health professional. I was hoping DMSA may have stabilised you a little. Guess that has not done a thing.

Jinx, do you feel you need to simply stop all supplements completely? And just concentrate on diet and fats? Keep it completely plain and basic and see if your body might do something on it's own without having to handle supplements? Or try that and SLOWLY introduce one vitamin back at a time? E.g. starting with JUST vitamin C?

no wonder your mum is in a state. What parent wants to see their child go through this kind of torment? This is what I mean, they poison us and leave us to it and then when we seek help, we're treated like nutcases. As though really it's in our minds (actually yeah it is, literally).

Jinx, I dont know what to say and I cant make this better one bit. I just ask that you stay alive and somehow keep getting on the forum, even just to spill this out when you need to. Something has got to settle somehow, sometime. Have you tried actually just diet and good fats alone?

Please try that, as the supplemetns could actually be a problem at this point. Your gut maybe in trouble also and perhaps these things are just not being absorbed at the moment.

bex truth is I don't really understand you... my higher brain functions, front of my brain, are stuck, they don't. I just CAN'T think.... i'm completely bonkers... and with each day is worse...

i know I meet the criteria for schizophrenia now, I just can't stop it, control it...

i dont have a sound mind anymore... it's like the lights went off....

it's so humiliating....

but thanx for reply

At this point it sounds like you need psyciatric drugs to deal. No shame in that, we all need them to get by during hard times. I would concentrate on that first, then worry about the mercury. The damage the mercury has done can be helped greatly with supplemental support (but you need to know which hormones and functions are lacking though) and allopathic meds. See a doctor, get help. There really isn't anything more anyone here can do for you on the psycosis front.

actually I went to a psychiatrist yesterday and she prescribed some lose dose neuroleptic... (yeah know it's )...

problem is one is feeling even more dead on it. I think I should be on antiseizure meds than neuroleptics.

As far as I understand you still have amalgams. Keep looking for someone who can take them out properly. Russ recovered substantially when he had his fillings removed. It is very important to find a gooood dentist. Taking ALA when you have amalgams is dangerous. Don't do that. Everyone says you shouldn't chelate when you have amalgams too. So avoid using DMSA for now too.

Good luck brother
-Colin

I agree with you Colin. Problem is, Jinx cannot find a good biologic dentist where he is and nobody else has been able to locate one for him. I sure hope that happens because it is obviously the only way.

Unfortunately as he's said, his previous removal experience was a diaster and has left him in the condition we now observe on here.

He is barely functioning. All the diet and supplement advice and he was still not responding. This is why it was suggested that "maybe" some DMSA taken andy cutler style might do something, considering Jinx was desperate to use it anyway just to do "something" even if it got him to a point where he might be able to get the other amalgams out.

But I know there are risks, and normally that is the last thing I'd ever suggest to anybody with amalgams and never previously have! even though another member on here "sosick" is actually now functioning better from doing this herself (chelating with amalgams) and can now consider the rest of her amalgams being removed. Before chelating, she was so ill she couldn't. Again, not everybody will respond in that way.

This is why it gets very confusing. NObody knows what to suggest to Jinx because it seems he's damned if he does it, or damned if he doesnt, plus he's got nobody there to help him, no professional who is right into this

What is the guy supposed to do? Algin didn't help him, nothing has. DMSA he felt did "something", but then he went and used ALA and had cilantro in a meal he didn't know about and now it seems he's worse than ever.

If Andy Culter or someone working in this area was on this forum, they might be able to suggest particular things for Jinx' situation. But it's really hard to see him go through this and this desperate and just sit and suggest the same things to him over and over that he's already been doing.

I no longer know what to offer. And I have tried to locate biologic dentist in his area and cannot. I think he should avoid chelation also, but he stays just as bad regardless. At least with the DMSA he admitted that it seemed to do something in one area, but felt worse in another at the sametime.

I wish more could be done for you Jinx. And if I find out anything that seems that it might help you in your situation, I'll let you know.

Jinx....What is the most vitamin C you have taken at one time, maybe some real high doses would flush it out...it sure makes me feel better.

Sandi
xoxo

I see. It is a delicate situation indeed. One thing we can do for jinx is pray for him or send him positive energy.

I still strongly reccommend that you find a good dentist, jinx. Even if it means leaving your country and spending a fair amount of money.

om mani padme hum
-Colin

i really need to thank u guys, you are great. too bad your support and effort is futile in actuality...

it's really bad... sorry, but I'm lacking words... seems my long-term memory chips away every day... sometimes... most of the time, I'm forgetting I'm even mercury poisoned or about this forum...

I'm having 2 next teeth pulled out... I will be left with 2 smaller fillings that will have to DRILLED OUT , and the exposure would still equal to half the one I got 7 months ago which put me in this state...

do you think it would be ok to chelate with those 2 small fillings? guess you never know..... DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jinx, I am just glad that you are having those teeth pulled. The less mercury, the better. I do not know if chelating with the leftover two small amalgams would be suitable or not.

Even professionals argue on this. Everybody just wants you in some kind of state where you are coping better and it's disheartening to see this NOT happening.

Let us hope that the extraction of two teeth holding big amalgams may take some of the ongoing load off you and see what happens then.

problem is, there are big chances that it's brain mercury causing most of this... I don't think existing amalgams contribute much....

That could be true Jinx, but you still need to reduce your blood levels and that can only be done once your amalgams are gone, so your body can start to do that, with or without DMSA.

Yes I know, easier said than done. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

yet I can't function without at least SOME brain power... I watched a moment ago a show called 'wife swipe' and throughout didn't know what it was all about, who waswho, didn't get anything at all, only at the end did I realise, when the wives came back home. i can't function being the mentally retarted and actually insane person I am now....

what do you advise me guys after having the teeth pulled.. go and drill out the other two or just stay and WAIT!?!

Jinx, I am like this most of the time. I cannot really read books or watch movies and in fact if I do, I get more upset so I avoid it.

AFter you get your teeth extracted? I would wait for a few weeks for that to settle and get the last two amalgams out as soon as you can.

If you can, get the dentist to do what he / she can for you as far as protection goes. If you can get them to understand your situation or at least do their best, it's better than nothing.

Easy for people to say do this or that, I've had that myself and some people are simply not as ill as others. But my view is this. You are so ill right now, and you won't know if you're risking yourself worse by chelating or not because you still have amalgams.

If all of this is GONE, then you are free from any sense of risk with chelation as far as amalgams are concerned. That part will at least be gone.

To me, chelation and diet are the main things to concentrate on (after amalgams are removed!). I know you've heard this many times over, but keep the diet going, it's all you have right now and for me, cheating is disasterous. I stick with a plain diet of eggs, meat, and vegetables and good fats.

That is it. If I start heading into high carbs or straight sugar, i'm in even deeper trouble.

Jinx it sounds like your sufferring severe Anxiety. This is from fearing of going crazy and the thought of the mercury causing it. It may sound like schizophrenia but I dont think you have that unless you hallucinate.

Read optimum nutrition from patrick holford. It suggests alternative therapies.

God bless

Patrick Holford is a joker. He has no idea the impact toxins have. I've had to educate him about mercury myself since his clinic which i went to for treatment are so unaware of toxicity. Only go to him if you want your mercury poisoning dealt with by exercise and counselling.

The thought of mercury does not cause anxiety. It's mercury that causes lethal anxiety.

The thought of mercury does not cause anxiety. It's mercury that causes lethal anxiety.

Exactly. I became symptomatic a few weeks after getting a thimerosol-laced flu shot. I had been in very good health - physically and emotionally - before that incident.

A psychopharmacologist I saw to help me with my headaches, vertigo and autonomic blunting (I can't feel anything but gross stimuli) did a checklist for OCD with me. One of the 'signs' of obsessiveness is believing that toxins are affecting you.

I never saw him again. I find it infinitely more plausible that toxins THEMSELVES can cause OCD, and that dealing with them as best as possible is the only way to health.

He also told me to stop researching things online. Thanks for that advice. Ignorance is bliss, right? Worrying about mercury is a sign of neuroticism, right?

I'm tired of being more logical and realistic than the professionally trained physicians I've been paying to see.

Anxiety?

man I don't feel a thing, I'm like a deadman. that's the case, apart from positive schizophrenia there's also negative schizophrenia where you lose all your brain function, like alzheimers of a sort, and that's what I'm getting.


"I'm tired of being more logical and realistic than the professionally trained physicians I've been paying to see."

you nailed it glicero, it's like they can't take the facts.

Jinx dont be so hard on yourself.

Your doing well and can write very well on here...Most people cant even do that. Most people cant even read properly but you manage to read and reply to everything so dont be so hard on yourself.

What symptoms are you sufferring that makes you beleive you feel nothing?

I know of patrick holfords clinic...I think its fantastic since I have alot of people who have been succesfully treated for depression, anxiety and schizophrenia..

What is it about toxins that they dont understand dental holocoust that you may know? Im quite interested in knoing more.
Thanks

james, I guess know how I "feel", and how I used to.. it's gonna be hard to understand for you since you're not in my shoes.

you say I read properly, but I'm never sure if I read things 'right'. the same goes for expressing yourself - I'm never sure if the words I've chosen repreent what i wanted to say, plus I'm never sure what I really want to say.

plus I'm completely blank, my affect is not spontaneous, I feel comatose. I know I was writing all these things still way back, but now, it's not even remotely comparable.

and actually, there are times, and it's like 70% of the time where I can't write things up. it's only when I can that i come here. like this post, as i'm wiriting it I got a sudden surge of vocabulary, but I know this will pass.

and my senses are all bland.

plus this MASSIVE confusion, I'm thinking one thing one day, and another thing the other.

I have no imagination, can't visualize things.

I have no feelings for my family.

CAN'T RELATE TO THER PEOPLE!!!!

etc etc

and most of the days I am quite insane, really. like yesterday, didn't care about anything, I weas "happily" living in "my world".

all of this is just too much to put into words really.

Im sorry to hear.

I just want to say dont feel bad if you need to go on meds but be careful of side effects.

I understand about the no feelings and CANT VISUALISE!!!! I HAVE THAT and its a PAIN!!! Its like a loss of concentration.

Have you tried www.neurogistics.com or neurorelief.com

They both deal with chemical messengers in the brain without DRUGS and use urine/saliva and blood samples.

This may help you? What other tests you done? Food intolerances? Diets?

Also what are you taking at the moment for supplements or medication etc? PM me if you dont want to post here.

What's fantastic about it. The fact that it costs a fortune and that they don't treat mercury poisoning, candida and other neurotoxins that cause mental illness? They certainly weren't successful for me. I was treated for months, did the full protocol, and then basically got told it was all in my head when it didn't work.

"What is it about toxins that they dont understand dental holocoust that you may know?"

Do you mean that they should not be expected to understand that poisoned brain cells cannot respond to nutritional intervention? Nutrition is crippled from the onset. Mercury interferes with cellular, enzyme, endocrine and neurological function. Maybe Holford should learn about toxicology before he starts ripping people off.

Hey, Dental, I believe you are skeptical about Cutler's regimen... given that, do you have a belief about how to get mercury out of the brain? Do you feel that your strategy has been working to heal the brain?

Just trying to gather some data points for my own strategy.

Thanks.

Yes their is a whole host of problems that it can cause but they wouldnt just ignore them.

Their is so many tests to see any kind of problems. Their is also the possibility that things are all in the mind but thats not so true all the time.

What tests have you had done or therapies have you tried?