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Tuesday, I am scheduled to get my first amalgam replaced. I am really scared. Despite the fact that I am really ill, brain fogged, exhausted, etc., I still function enough to work part time with my own business and take care of my home and family. As always, I have some important things coming up for work, and am afraid removing the one amalgam will make me nonfunctional because I am so chemically sensitive and I'm not sure how I will be with the replacement material. I am debating going to the office and getting samples to bring to my other dr. who uses the electrodermal screening machine to see what I am least reactive to, and then going back another time for the replacement. I did have a compatability test done, and I am not sure what the dentist will recommend. The dr. with the electrodermal screening machine also told me to wait a bit until I can move my bowels three times per day before amalgam replacement - he has me taking ground flax seed to try to get this to happen. I don't know if I should just do it, or if I should wait. Part of me wants to just do it because I feel like I know I need to finally do something about this, and the other part is so afraid of irreparable damage. Any advice? What was it like for you guys after you got your first replacement done? I'm always afraid to take a risk of taking something new or doing something like this because I need to function. I have to work - my husband recently started a new business and I, as sick as I am, am the one holding it together here financially.

Thank you all again for your support and feedback.
T

i got REALLY sick for 6 months and almost no improvement. this was my experience after removal, before that i was totally fine. my advice is leave them, or pull them as last resort if u r terminally ill. best of luck, i hope to get my mind back over the next 6 months, and i hope u don't loose everything in your life like i did, although i do have valium and cigarettes as my friends now. lost family, partner, all of friends, and while around people i am completely alone. benza. ifit were not for moving back home with mum and dad i would be living in the gutter, looking for food in bins, although in the first 2 months i couldn't understand what people were saying, and finding a bin would have been out of my capicity so i would have starved even if there were one laying on top of me.

Anonymous,

Were you chemically sensitive before amalgam removal? Did you go to a biological dentist who follows protocol? I know my dentist is excellent when it comes to removal - from several sources. But I don't know if I am too sick to handle the removal. I am functioning, but do not process what people say, feel "autistic" a lot of the time, have vision problems, etc. I don't know how I complete everything I do in a day with my state of mind.

I appreciate your feedback and am sorry to hear how difficult it is for you.

Andrea, what do you mean by "feeling autistic"?

Do you not have emotions?

Andrea:

I hope this helps. When I first found out I was mercury poisoned I wanted to yank those puppies out. However, my doctor and the material I read (Dr. Huggins and mercury poisoned website and forums) highly, highly suggested a light detox and major change in diet before proceeding in order to get the maximum benefit out of the removal.

I have heard that some even proceed with detoxing for 3 months prior to having anything removed because their bodies don't just have the mercury toxin in them, but other toxins from bad diets etc. Also, when you are mercury toxic, toxins that normally would have been eliminated stay in the body because the organs that normally eliminate are now not functioning at their full capability. And, you might consider this, if you are not having regular BMs then it will be a burden on your body to eliminate other things. It's always better to be safe than sorry.

Also, its is vital to get the work done by a biological dentist who follows the Huggins protocol, using the dam to catch mercury chunks (so you don't swallow and repoison) and aspirator to remove the fumes/vapors so you don't inhale them and repoison. www.iamot.org has a list of biological dentists if you don't know of one. Always call around and make sure they are using the protocol. If they scoff at it, move on.

Gabriella

Hi Gabriella. I originally found out I was mercury toxic in 2001. Since then, I have been on the strict diet, and I do have one regular bowel movement per day. This dr. just seems to think I should get myself up to 3 before I get them removed because I am so hypersensitive. I have been going twice per day the last few days since I've been taking the flax meal. My dentist does follow the huggins protocol and has a great reputation. He is the one pushing me to do this because I have tried a zillion types of detox, vitamins, etc. over the past six years and cannot tolerate any of it for an extended period of time. He feels I need to get them out in order to move forward. I know he is extremely careful, follows all of the precautions, etc, and has helped many sick patients. I have been communicating with one of his pretty sick patients over the past couple of months and she is getting stronger, tolerating more foods.

But again, I am scared. My thought is, if I can't even take a vitamin for an extended period of time, how will my body tolerate having a new material permanently put into my teeth. On the other side, if I am really hypersensitive, I am sure I am sensitive to the amalgam in my mouth and maybe getting it out will bring me to a better level of wellness. I will be trying light detox again prior to removal if I cancel this appointment. I tried NCD at a very low dose and got dramatically worse over the winter.

Thank you so much for your support. This is so scary, and I do want to figure out how to do this slow and gentle so that I do not become incapacitated.

Andrea

Blicero, regarding feeling autistic, I do feel numb and disconnected with others. I become uncomfortable when talking socially with others (something that I never had like this) and my symptoms seem to worsen with the anxiety. I have auditory processsing problems and need to have things repeated frequently. I have trouble with abstract thought and take things literally. I have significant attention problems and feel spaced out. My frustration tolerance is low.

The feeling of being disconnected, spaced out is what makes me describe this as feeling autistic.

Andrea-

Thanks. I was curious because the symptom I have that's driving me mad is an inability to feel any emotion. Total numbness. I've always had my quirks and semi-Aspergers'y side, but I've also always had very strong emotions. Feelings of happiness, sadness, love, nostalgia, etc etc.

About 4 weeks after getting a flu shot with thimerosol, my ability to experience any emotion simply disappeared. For example, if a loved one passed away, I would literally not be able to feel sad. And again, that is NOT the real me. But it is something I've read on a few websites of autistics that they can't feel grief.

Anyway, I hope to get my emotions back, either through detox or outright chelation.

Oh, Andrea,

One other thing: I think selenium as seleniomethionine is a crucial supplement for both the removal and the period after. It has a strong chemical affinity for mercury, bonds with it and essentially neutralizes it in the body.

Small doses of 50 mcg seem best for this supp.

Blicero, I totally understand what you are saying about this not being you. I was not like this either. When I think about it, I don't feel happiness or excitement either, my feelings for love and affection have been blunted. I think the more of a fog you are in, the more blunted the feelings.

I also understand your frustration with the flu shot. I think my symptoms actually started years ago when I was in college and had to get a MMR shot with thimerisol because there was an outbreak on the campus. But my emotions actually became totally blunted after eating a lot of tuna years later and not realizing what it can do to you. Sometimes I think, if only we would have known then what we know now...

I hope detox helps you to get this back.

Thanks for the advice on Selenium Blicero.

Be well.

I've been diagnosed with chemical sensitivities and suffered from it for over 20 years. I had the compatibility testing and feel that I have suffered no ill affects from the material that they used.

Andrea...I'm the above anon who is chemically sensitive. I wanted to add a bit more because I know where you are coming from. Since amalgam removal ( I had them all out within two weeks and had a mouth full of amalgam), I continue to progress in a positive direction. In my case, I have never looked back or regretted the decision to have my amalgams removed. I strongly believe that the compatibility testing was the right thing to do. Many have felt relief from the brain fog after amalgam removal. The exhaustion is something that I still battle unless I use my supporting supplements.

If you feel comfortable getting some of the material and taking it back to the Dr.who uses the electrodermal screening machine; then you should do it.

I want to be honest with you. People with chemical sensitivities are in for the long haul when it comes to chelation. If you have Andrew Cutler's book read what he mentions about chemical sensitivities. I was also encouraged to see that he mentioned MCS. At the same time, I wish I had removed mine sooner than I did.

Hope this helps. It's a "there's good news and there's bad news" thing. But, I am 100% sure that I am on the right track.

I don't know... I am pretty sensitive, diagnosed as allergic to plastics as a child even... my chelation is going pretty well (very well) and I still have amalgams too.

I think one of the most important things you can do for yourself in that type of situation is stay away from sugary food, avoid large amounts of pesticide treated grocery store stuff, watch out for chemical laden cosmetic things like moisterizers, deodorants etc. Shop at the health food store as much as you are able instead maybe grow your own pesticide free tomatoes, stuff like that. I may be allergic to plastics but I am pretty healthy. At least I assume so if I feel good.

My blood work always shows up as me having an allergic reaction to some unknown something, but I guess because I've balanced it out over the years with a healthy diet I really don't feel the reaction even though my blood work may show it. I didn't even get hay fever this year. One thing that really really bothers me is mold though, that is an ongoing issue and can make me quite ill, swollen eyelids, laryngitus, the whole bit.

I have to use quartz/glass filler filling material for the white fillings, have a few, no problem. I would like to do the amalgam replacements with zirconia which is suppose to be even better in my situation but every dentist I meet says they do it but then never actually do. That is kind of weird.

I had my amalgams taken out over a year ago but im still very sensetive to chemicals, not so much cigarette smoke, but paint, glue, nailvarnish, chlorine, etc.
I was emotionless when i had mine removed, it was so scarey to me as i have children who i love so much, the only thing that gave me my emotions back was thyroid meds, i felt dead inside before.

Dawn:

Can you elaborate a bit on the Thyroid issue? What meds are you taking? Did your bloodwork show Thyroid issues?

How soon did your emotions come back?

Thanks!

I was on levothyroxine which did me no good at all, most people dont do well on it, so i started armour dessicated thyroid hormone about 8mths ago, and im alot more human now, though i still get ups and downs due to mercury.
About 13 yrs ago i had most my thyroid removed as the tablets i was taking did nothing and i was getting worse, if i could go back i would not have had it removed and i would have tried iodine and got my amalgams removed but now its too late.
My emotions came back straight away after taking Armour, its not easy getting the right dose though!

This was me above.

Andrea: You sound like you are okay to proceed. I can tell you that I too was extremely chemical sensitive before and after getting the amalgams out. It's much better 3 months post removal. There was a point where walking into a room filled with folks that had perfume and cologne on gagged me. I couldn't go out to the garage because of the pesticides (which in the past I could handle). I had to ask my family to go easy on the air freshners and not wear cologne around me. However, 3 months later after amalgam removal and 9 rounds of chelationm I can tolerate smells much better and can even wear perfume. Like others the varnishes, sealents, stuff like that, are still a problem for me. Just last night my husband was on the other side of the house outside and I could smell the sealent 15 yards away.

Like others, as soon as the hormones started to get straightend out via chelation, adrenal and thyroid support, the dead feeling has left and I can relate to others.

Again, you sound like you are in a good place. Another thing that would help BM regularity is to eat veggies at lunch and dinner and drink lots of water with a little bit of sea salt.

Take care,

Gabriella

Gabriella,

What are you doing for both adrenal and thyroid support?

My main symptom is the emotional deadness thing, so if it's addressable via adrenal/thyroid suport, I'd like to try.

I'm taking a small dose (6 mgs daily) of Idoral iodine for the thyroid. Also I believe iodine can actually help 'chelate' (not quite accurate, but somewhere between chelating and passivating) mercury.

funny I do that too. Just now and then a few sprinkles of salt, I like the Himalayan sea salt of late.

Wow, you guys are great. Well, I changed my appointment Tuesday to a consult with the dentist and will receive some of the materials to bring to the other dr to check on the EDS machine. The problem is that I can't take the chance on becoming totally brain dead over the next couple of weeks because of things I must get done for work. But I will schedule another appointment for soon.

For those of you guys with young kids, how did you find your ability to take care of your kids and spend time with them after having them removed?

Thank you all - you are great!

blicero....

Let me start by I have been on 1 1/2 grains of Amour for a year now. That did not really help because I was mercury poisoned and the mercury was inhibiting the Armour's ability to do "it's job".

I don't know if its ONE thing that got me to where I am today, but can tell what I did. After being diagnosed I was put on a strict no dairy, no sugar, no bread diet. I went all out, all organic. I found a friend who was already eating like that and she gave me a bunch of recipes, which I stuck to 3 or 4 for two months. In 6 weeks this brought my overeall body (not mercury) toxicity levels down from 20 to 13 (on a scale of 1-21).

I also drank ALOT of water (RO then I put it into a Vitalizer Plus machine to oxygenate it), added sea salt to my eggwhites and steamed veggies, and put in a whole house filtration system to stop the chlorine from touching my skin, it was making me sick after every shower.

I was also put on herbal drops to help me gently detox. They were different ones for the liver, kidney, pituitary, etc.

After 6 weeks of this I had my amalgams removed one quadrant at a time 1 week apart. I don't know if everyone can handle this, but "I went for it" because I felt as Elvis says, my intuition said I could probably handle it. At this time, I was still tired as ever, crying all the time, depressed, suicidal, impulsive, irrational and had to pray all the time to stay sane. And had a bladder infection almost every week and herpes breakouts. It was awful. I coudn't stand to be touched because it hurt (a symptom of adrenal insufficiency).

As each quadrant of almagam was removed I seemed to get an eensy bit better. By the 4th week, it was amazing, I had euphoric feelings and energy.

Then I started chelating. All the time still sticking to the diet and drops my doc was giving me. As soon as I started chelating my energy levels rollercoastered, some days were awesome, some were awful. At the 3 month mark I started to notice that I was fatigued ALL the time, no more good days.

I reread Andy's book section on Adrenals and the Thyroid. Both my first doc and my 2nd doc said they were weak. My 2nd doc had me do the saliva test. This showed low cortisol levels in the afternoon, however, my energy levels did not match with the test. I convinced my doc to let me start on hydrocortisone. I could have done isocort, not sure how you spell it, but I knew enough from Andy's description and the posts on this formum and Andy's forums that I had symptoms of severe adrenal insufficiency for the last 5 years, that progressed as I got sicker and needed something stronger than the herbs (I had herbs before that from the 1st doc, but they only did so much and then nothing).

So...the doc gave me some HC and away I went. Nothing happended on the first dosing she suggested, which was just do it as the test shows once in the afternoon. I decided to take a risk and do it in the morning, lunch and the afternoon. What a difference! Went back to the doc and convinced her I needed more based on Andy's book (copied the pages and had her read before we met). She gave me 140 pills for one month to see how I do. I also convinced her to give me a prescription for 1/2 grain of Armour to add to my already existing 1 1/2 grains of Armour to see if I would do better with just a little more. PTL, she gave it to me.

Then last week I finally decided and had the energy thanks to the HC, to go to the www.stopthethyroidmadness.com website. I spent 5 hours reading it, reviewing my past lab results from 1999 to now and WOW I have been thyroid deficient and adrenal insufficient for a LONG time!

So...I took another risk, and started folllowing the suggested dosing schedule (incremental increases) per the website under Adrenal Info for HC. This made a HUGE difference it just a day. I also started "stress dosing" as they suggested on the website and this made all the difference in the world when we had an all day party for my sons 16th birthday. I never would have made it without the HC.

I also added the 1/2 grain of the Armour to my 1 1/2 grains that I was already doing and then 1/2 grain at lunch and 1/2 grain at 4pm, to mirror the body's natural cycles and HC dosing schedule, and that made a huge difference.

No, I still cannot run or exercise, but hey, now I can go to the store and grocery shop, get the mail, bring in the garbage cans on garbage day, and do some minor errands and stand a little longer, which is huge when preparing dinner for the kids. I am assuming, based on the info here and everywhere, that at some point the majority of the mercury burden will be lifted, all the rest I am getting and the proper diet will lead to full adrenal healing, or that I will only need a little and that my energy levels will make a full recovery. I have seen so much recovery just in the area of thinking AND this is a little thing, but its big to me my strength is returning, I can open jars and potato chip bags and lift things without paying for it the rest of the day and without getting out of breath.

I also noticed that when I started officially chelating the Andy way March 17th with DMSA (started on 12.5 mgs) that although it didn't make me feel good during it, that afterwards I would notice little differences in my thinking more clearly. More than anything, after I added ALA a month or so ago, along with switching to 50 mgs of DMPS, I really began to see differences in my ability to be patient, be able to finish a page I started reading, read more than one page, concentrate, think clear thoughts, my cognitive thinking improved and my overall sense of well being improved. The depression also lifted. Before I would have to really pray alot to get it to go and, yes, I faked it for my family and for my sanity. I noticed the more I gave in to it, the more it showed up. Then finally, the drugs, the diet, etc. all seemed to kick in and the sky opened so to speak.

I really suggest going to the website and they have forums for that too that really help.

All the best to you,

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Andrea, you might want to try to get a Friday afternoon appointment if possible and if you don't work Saturday or Sunday just in case you don't feel well a day or two after the removal. I am in the process of getting my amalgams removed and have had severe nausea one time the day after, and another time I had more mild nausea for a few days. I don't know whether it was from the novacaine(which usually has sulphites as a preservative) or from the mercury, or from some other chemicals the dentist used. I am also very chemically sensitive. So far I have had my amalgams replaced with porcelain inlays and onlays. Those were large fillings. The dentist wants to use composites for the smaller fillings. He is not a holistic dentist but wants to replace many of my fillings since they are mostly 20-35 years old and he is worried about decay possibly forming under them(I already needed one root canal because of this). He doesn't use Diamond Lite, and I am afraid I might have a reaction to the composite he uses.

One thing I read on the net is that vitamin c reduces the effectiveness of novacaine and other local anesthetics, and a website recommended not taking vitamin c within 24 hours before getting dental work.

i was the first anonymous poster who said about the 6 month to date ordeal.

my dentist is the most recognised in our state, i had no health problems before this, very high iq, building a good life, and felt she did an excellent job. i am certainly mercury sensitive, and just had to add that if i could go back i would have paid her $10,000 to make sure she never called to ask if i wanted the appointment, and offered another $10,000 to remind me 6 months later that i didn't want the fillings removed. so far recovery which there has been none, has cost 20,000$AU

as bizarre as i'm writing, i'm just trying to portray the extreme nature of what has occured.

Thank you anonymous for the tip about having a couple of days of not working afterwards. I will definitely keep that in mind. How did you feel after those couple of days? Any significant changes in how you felt either way? I wish all the best to you with your health.

Benza, I hear what you are saying as well. I do think about the risk all the time and in my mind am trying to decide, should I or shouldn't I? My plan if I finally do move forward is to just replace one first, and then see where I am at. I know I cannot take a risk at once of removing all of them in one day. I am so sorry you are having such a hard time. I totally understand how it feels to be so fogged - because that is how I live my days too. I hear your warnings about losing everything - I am very scared that if I get worse, I will lose my relationships with my family because my health issue is not an easy one for any of us as it is. Take care and I hope for you that over time you begin to feel stronger, clearer, better.

Andrea,
Just wanted to let you know I'm praying for you and the upcoming removal. I had one removed at a time and did alright. I had and still do have rollercoaster days of all the weird feelings you discribe in your above posts. I have three small children 4,6, and 7 now and I explain to them that mommy needs to take it easy when I'm having "one of those days" I make sure I do not schedule too much or else I would be no good at all for them. I am also very chemically sensitive but a little bit better after removal. I still cannot wear my wedding rings or any metal except titanium.
I haven't begun formal chelation except diet because like you stated, lack of regularity in bowels.
I trust and pray God will bless you and your family!
Veg

Thanks Veggiemom for your prayers and support. It must be so hard being like this with three young children. I have one beautiful son who just turned nine and he is my whole life. I really want to adopt a second, but also want to be better. I know what you are saying with not doing too much so you can be there for your children. This is a struggle I have, as I have to work part time financially. It is much easier for me when I am off to fully be there for my son. Everything I do takes so much out of me.

I will also pray for you and your family as well. I hope you get stronger and feel better over time.

I am feeling somewhat better now but am still not feeling great. I also have problems with candida and food sensitivities
(sometimes I get an extreme reaction after eating garlic- A candida die off reaction perhaps?) I am very sensitive to perfume, diesel fumes, and some cleaning chemicals. My gums still feel irritated, althout rinsing with warm salt water a few times a day helps calm them. The wird thing is that some of the gum irritation is on the other side of my mouth from where the dental work was done. I am taking a break for a while. I want to wait at least a few weeks before I get more dental work done. My dentist wants to use composites to replace the smaller filings. I have no composites in my mouth and am afraid I might be sensitive to them. My dentist does not use Diamond Lite. So far I have had porcelain inlays and onlays installed, and one crown(I don't know if it is nickel free).

Mercury can cause candida, candida methylates mercury and makes it even more toxic ( so I hear). Candida messes up the gut and frustrates detox, mercury messes up the gut and can cause candida.

The cycle can be very bad, especially if someone is immune comprimised in even more ways. Dealing with candida can be crucial because it can add to the misery of mercury or even surpass it in some cases.

Doesn't mean aggressively treating it, becuase that can be dangerous. The body builds up a certain amount of yeast naturally to a metal toxic environment, but problem is because the body is weakened and poisoned, it goes beyond that and cannot control further overgrowth which then becomes an illness in itself.

Mercury and/or candida both can cause chemical sensitivity. So it's a two edge sword. Both should be addressed simulatanously. Antifungals are risky if they are not used carefully because they can kill yeast in large numbers at onetime, releasing not just massive amounts of dead yeast toxins/alcohols, but also any heavy metals the yeast happened to contain, which can mean acute toxicity and then the need to chelate the re-exposure back out.

I have had this occur, so it really can happen. But usually if the person may have had a long standing overgrowth of yeast that may have had plenty of time to absorb mercury. So it can be an initial shock and in some cases apparently it's dangerous.

I chelated the metals back out with DMSA, so luckily that did work. But again, cause of my ongoing other health issues, candida continues to afflict me and I can only barely get it remotely under some control with a strict, but healthy diet. I believe the diet is the first and best thing to address (removing gluten, wheat, sugar, milk etc) and going from there. Becuase the diet supports the immunity and aids detox at the seametime. Healing can often take place through diet alone in some cases. But most of us need more than that.

Is it possible for you to stick to porcelain if you feel it suits? Cerec is a good one and apparently very biocompatible. I realise it's more suited to large plus sized fillings, but I think cerec is a little different from typical porcelain...

Your extreme reaction to garlic could be die off, but also wild mobilisation of other toxins. Garlic is potent and can redistribute mercury and other metals easily and often into worse areas. I had HORRIFIC reactiosn to garlic supplementation and had to go into emergency one night because of the agony of having toxins basically rammed into my gut area from the garlic.

Some people do great on it and seem to feel it aids metal detox...for me? I just can't. Once I could to a point, but yes it always produced a reaction either way of detox/die off, who knows? The food maybe safer than the supplement.

I forgot to mention my extreme sensitivity to cigarette smoke and sensitivity to candles burning. The perfume sensivity is particularly annoying since it means I need to avoid crowded indoor places. I might be feeling pretty good one day, then suddenly someone wearing cologne or perfume comes close to me and some of my muscles might start aching(or perhaps some might even start twitching?) and I might suddenly get a severe headache. Perfumes usually contain aldehydes, and those with a mercury and/or candida problem might not be able to properly deal with even a very small amount of inhaled aldehydes. The food sensivitvities are a big pain since the reaction may be delayed quite a bit, and it is difficult to figure out what caused it. I also wonder if it is a candida die off(which I guess is a good thing even if it is very uncomfortable) or if something else is going on. I like eating plenty of garlic and cayenne pepper(it helps with my sinus problems) but sometimes I have a strong reaction later(especially after eating garlic). Lately I don't have a problem after eating yogurt, but there was a time when I had a strong reaction after eating yogurt. Dental work scares me since I don't even know what is causing the nausea(The novacaine? The sulphite preservative in the novacaine? The mercury released during dental work? Chemicals the dentist uses? Inhaled mercury from just sitting in his office? cleaning agents used to clean the dental office(strong cleaning agents are used to disinfect dental treatment rooms).