News you won't see in controlled mainstream media.

I am losing the plot with this diet. I have been on it now for two years, and am SO sick of it now I can't face another egg for breakfast. 12 months after amalgam removal, I had my temporary fillings drilled out and composites put in, and got re-exposed to mercury all over again - must've been some mercury vapour lurking in my teeth where the dentist drilled to put new fillings. Seems like Hesham is right on this point, for me anyway - you've got to detox the tooth completely.

Anyway, so instead of slowly getting better as I was before my dentist visits, I have got worse again - BIG metallic taste in my mouth all the time, fluey feeling back and worse, and candida symptoms from hell. I reckon I have lost about 6 months progress. I am SO fed up.

What I was wondering was, because sticking to this diet is a form of torture for me at present, was what people think about these low-carb foods

http://www.lowcarbshopping.co.uk/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=196&strPageHistory=cat

and whether they might be worth alright to eat without causing me too much harm. I know about Bee's diet, and have been doing it for a long time . Just can't handle it anymore. It's a quality of life thing, and believe me, I am really really fed up with it now.

I take probiotics and am grapefruit seed extract - but go slowly because I don't want to release too much mercury. Chelation is DMSA a la Cutler protocol.

any thoughts...?

Nicola

The stuff at that website seems extremely expensive! You can design your own low carb diet at a much lower cost by avoiding these expensive low carb bread and low carb pasta products. Also avoid low carb chocolate, as it seems to be extremely expensive(over $1 for a bar less than 2 ounces?), and many low carb chocolate products tend to have plenty of saturated fat.

I suggest that you try a diet of nuts, fish(low mercury fish such as sardines, herring, and salmon. Try alternating these to diversify the toxins, and don't eat too much of these). Also eat plenty of vegatables, eating more of the lower carb ones. Some say to avoid carrots due to higher carbs, however I think carrots are an important food to eat but in moderation. Fat free unsweetened yogurt with live cultures is an important probiotic and a good sources of protein and calcium. I recently found lowfat(or fat free?) cottage cheese with active cultures that has a lower percentage of its calories from carbs than unsweetened yogurt. It is lower in calcium per serving than yogurt but higher in protein (since yogurt has more water than cottage cheese, 2 pounds of fat free yougurt is roughly equivalent to one pound of fat free cottage cheese in terms of calories).

Try adding olive leaf extract to your regimen to fight the candida. Start out slowly and gradually increase the dosage as you can tolerate it. Take plenty of vitamin c , B vitamins, and a good multi mineral supplement. Take a tablespoon a day of high lignan flaxseed oil. I initially had huge carbohydrate cravings when I went on a low carb diet, but after adding plenty of nuts to my diet and eating plenty of low carb vegetables as well as flaxseed oil, the carb cravings have gone. I also decreased my coffee intake to just one cup a day.
I suggest that you slow down on the DMSA. You should eat eggs, broccoli, and garlic(if you can tolerate it!) . The se high sulpur foods will have a mild chelating effect. I think you should add olive leaf extract and combat the candida problem first before doing full strength chelation.

It's difficult to comment on your diet without knowing what exactly it is you are eating. If you are sick of eggs for breakfast, why not eat something else? Maybe what you really need is more variety, and some new ideas. I've been doing the Paleolithic Diet for over a year now, and it is similar to the candida diet. As I've gone along I've picked up and discovered new recipes and combinations.

I've been thinking of starting a thread here asking people to talk about their favourite foods and recipes on these diets. Maybe I'll do that.

Are there particular foods you feel you have been denying yourself, and really miss? Are there foods you are craving but telling yourself you can't have? If you could be more specific maybe we could help.

Regards,
Linda.

I'm afraid that I don't tolerate nuts (too high carb) and I steer clear of fish because of the mercury content. Eating tuna fish helped get me where I am. I basically eat meat, non-starchy vegetables, eggs and good fats. I have a bad reaction if I eat anything with grains, or dairy, which wipes out another two food groups. Obviously I'm off sugar, alcohol etc etc. The reason I was looking at the low-carb website is that I am desperate to eat something else without it having a disastrous impact on the candida. I am also worried that having eliminated so much from my diet I will be super sensitive to a lot of foods now.

I eat eggs for breakfast, with ham or tomatoes. Usually a salad with some sort of protein (chicken or tinned sardines) for lunch, and meat with cooked vegetables for dinner. I 'snack' on raw vegetables like peppers or endives. This seems to keep the candida symptoms at bay. Nuts are a disaster at the moment, as is anything with gluten.

I guess there are no real shortcuts, just slogging on with it. It is so hard though, and I am so fed up....

Nicola

I've posted a recipes thread with a link and some of my own recipes. They include none of the things you say you don't eat, apart from cheese, and that is optional. I hope it helps <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Linda.

thanks Linda for the recipes. I don't really have a problem with variety on the savoury front - it's the sweet carby things I am craving at the moment (yeast talking), and I resent it so deeply that I can't enjoy a piece of chocolate when I feel like it. That's why I was looking at the low carb website and looking for someone to tell me that it would be OK to eat low-carb chocolate...!!

Seriously, though, if you have any breakfast ideas that don't involve eggs, dairy, grains or sugar, bring 'em on!!!!

Best
Nicola

I understand the sugar cravings. I don't have a candida problem, but my biochemsitry is out of whack in other ways and this is causing cravings.

Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but is there anything you are eating that could be causing the cravings? Too much fruit can do this, including fruit juice. Also, grains of any kind. (You said you don't eat those, yes?) It's also quite common to crave if your body is not getting enough healthy fat. I've been advised to try drinking some olive oil when I am craving, yucky as it sounds, and I find it sometimes helps.

As for breakfast, you can have anything you want. Most people who eat SAD (the standard American diet) seem to think that a proper breakfast has to be a carb feast. But you can have your favourite lunch or dinner food for breakfast, why not? Leftovers from the night before? Personally I am quite happy with routine and every morning I have a pile of veg either steamed or raw, plus a little chicken cooked in butter, Tamari soy sauce and a dash of white wine. I also add walnuts, thankfully I'm OK with nuts. I eat a lot of chicken because it is cheap, unfortunately -- I'd love to be able to afford free range. I cook a batch and keep it in the fridge, then take a little out here and there when I want it.

If your stomach turns at the thought of these foods in the morning, maybe you could investigate having some kind of smoothie. Often they are yogurt-based, do you eat yogurt? There might be other things you could use instead. I'm not the one to ask there because I'm not very keen on smoothies.

Eating this way, in my experience, is only hard when the cravings get a grip on you. If you can weather them (and I struggle with this myself, I'm far from perfect), then at some point when the cravings lessen you will find that your body thanks you immensely for taking care of it in this way.

I know what you mean about getting sick of a certain food. Ditch the eggs for a while. I actually tried having pureed raw liver for a few days because it is so very good for you. Unfortunately my drive to be healthy met an equal drive to resist hideously awful-tasting food and I haven't had any liver of any kind in months LOL. I think I'll survive though.

Linda.

"I'm afraid that I don't tolerate nuts (too high carb) and I steer clear of fish because of the mercury content. Eating tuna fish helped get me where I am. "

I said eat the low mercury fish. Sardines is the lowest, but herring and salmon are also low in mercury.

http://www.gotmercury.org/

Dry roasted peanuts have around 15% of their calories from carbohydrates. Less than 3% of their calories are from sugars. While peanuts are really legumes and not nuts, most people think of them as being nuts.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c219k.html

Dry roasted cashews have 23% of their calories from carbhydrates, but less than 4% from sugars.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c20nt.html

Dry roasted almonds have 13% of their calories from carbohydrates, but less than 4% from sugars.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c20nn.html

Dry roasted pistachio nuts have around 19% of calories from carbohydrates, and less than 6% of calories from sugars.

These are low carb foods, although some are lower in carbs than others.

With respect, Nicola said she doesn't tolerate nuts. If that is what her body is telling her then that's valid for her.

Peanuts are a tricky subject. Not only are they not nuts, as you said, but there are 2 major problems with them. Firstly, they are extremely high in omega-6, the fat that most of us get way too much of, and have to work hard to balance out with omega-3. Any fish oil you supplement with isn't going to have much effect if you are eating handfuls of peanuts as well. Secondly, peanuts contain aflatoxins, even roasted ones. Just not a very good food choice all around, when you could be eating other nuts like almonds or walnuts instead.

BTW if you eat the nuts raw rather than roasted, you will get the benefit of the living enzymes in them, which get killed with heat.

Linda.

if your problem is brain mercury, diet and DMSA won't cure you. Some people need the chelate with ALA to get well.

And some people need cilantro to reach deep layers of the brain.

Nicola...You might take a look at the SCD (Specific Carbohydrate Diet). Some on the Adult Metal forum are on this diet and it works for them. Their recipe for yogurt is the only yogurt that I can tolerate. Here is a little info that I found on the web. This diet allows me to broaden my choices of foods that otherwise cause me problems.

Yogurt made the SCD way has fermented longer than the standard yogurt, allowing the bacteria additional time to break down the lactose in the milk. This results in a yogurt that is easier to digest and absorb (simple carbs) in the small intestine thereby leaving less to cause trouble in the large intestine.

It seems that in many commercial yogurts additional milk solids are added as well as some of the SCD illegal ingredients. Commercial yogurts also ferment only for 8 to 12 hours. SCD yogurt is fermented for 24 hours.

http://www.scdiet.org/2recipes/indexa.html

Just an idea.

I haven't looked into the SCD joghurt, but wondered whether sheeps' or goat's milk joghurt would be OK, due to lower lactose content than cows' milk. Anybody know?

I will have a look at the link, thanks.

Nicola

Why are you sure that cabohydrates are bad for you?If you crave fruit or grain, maybe they have something your body needs.If your program is'nt working, you ought to try something else.

I don't think I could live without carbohydrates. Great energy source. I don't have any food allergies however, I eat bread everyday, whole wheat or white, love a good french bread, and I eat pasta a couple times a week too. If you sprinkle pasta with flax seed or similar you can avoid a lot of the 'sticky' gluten problems. Or eat plenty of veggies at the same time, basil pesto my favorite.

Two years seems like an awful long time to stay on a diet. I thought diets were things you did for a while and then went back to normal eating afterwards.

If there is one thing you should avoid forever it's sugar, and of course chemical sweeteners that subsitute for sugar. Xylitol and stevia are my favorite alternatives.

i used to feel that I had to eat wheat products. I have recently gone a few weeks without wheat and feel better. I increased my intake of nuts to replave the calories.Some carbohydrates are okay if they are complex carbs. Pasta and bread are simple carbohydrates.

Nicola have you tried a bit of brown rice, or red potatoes..I used to make oven fries with red skinned potatoes or sweet potatoes, that was a real treat for me. And amazingly enough I can eat potatoes now, but only as a limit of course. Don't want to encourage any new candida.

Best luck sweetie and hang in there!!!

Sandi
xoxo

Yes two years is a long time to be on a diet, but my understanding is that the candida is there while the mercury is there, and the mercury isn't going anywhere fast (while I detox with DMSA), so I have to stay on the diet until the mercury is gone and my gut slowly heals. I think I have a LOT of mercury.

Any carbohydrate gives me bloating and discomfort, so I am simply feeding the candida if I eat them, and making myself worse. Blasting the candida with antifungals and releasing mercury also makes me feel worse, so I am simply on a 'hold' position while I detox the mercury. Hence the diet for 2 years.

I think that realistically I will be eating this way for a long time, and it gives me no great pleasure to say that. Thanks for all the suggestions....

Nicola

Even if I weren't ill, I would be eating this way for life. To me, "diet" is the collective food choices a person makes, not a temporary weight-loss system or a "fix" for a while. The things the anti-candida and Paleo diet eliminate are generally bad for everyone, especially sugar and grains.

http://www.mercola.com/article/insulin.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2006/nov/9/i...se-your-risk-of-deadly-kidney-cancer.htm

I agree with Linda, even WHEN I am well again, and I intend to get that way, come hell or high water....I will avoid grains and most dairy too...and needless to say, the deadly white sugar.

But I can't wait until I can eat some real protein and the occasionally fried food...I really miss them. But do try the yam/sweet potato fries, they are the best!!!

best love,
Sandi
xoxo

A large percentage of Americans and asians are blood type A and should be vegetarians according to many including my MD.
Humans have always consumed alot of fruit which is high in carbohydrates.One study showing a correlation between grain consumption and kidney cancer does'nt show a causal connection . A diet high in protein is proven to cause kidney failure.Grains have various trace minerals that other foods don't have.Is there any evidence that people who eat a high carbohydrate diet have an increased incidence of cancer or other serious diseases?I think the opposite is true..We have enzymes to digest grains.Maybe the bloating and other problems are from poor food combining.
If you have sugar with a meal you should'nt get a sugar rush becuase the overall glycemic index won't be that high .When you have a high glycemic food between meals ,you get a sugsr rush.

You are very lucky to be able to digest the grains, many mercury toxic folks are lacking the enzymes to digest gluten...that is one of the things mercury does, inhibits the enzymes that digest the proteins in gluten and dairy. And then the colon transit time is reduced and we excrete toxins and heavy metals much less efficiently.

Sandi
xoxo

You're way off base here Anon. There are various criticisms of a vegetarian diet and its capability of maintaining health. Some people do well on it, others do not. My own naturopathic doctor says that she sees much more healing over the long-term when people get their protein from meat and fish.

Some people do eat a lot of fruit. In this day and age, it tends to be people who are not insulin-resistant who do well with it. That is not a natural condition to have, it comes from eating a poor diet, and so you have to take certain steps in order to heal it, including consuming little or no fruit.

Our ancestors were able to eat things like fruit and occasional honey because they were not also eating donuts, chocolate bars, cookies, etc.

A diet high in protein is NOT proven to cause kidney failure. Present the actual facts here please. If a person consumes large amounts of meat and does not balance it out with other dietary requirements like healthy fats and lots of veg and fruit, then yes that will cause problems. Another problem is that Americans who consume a lot of meat are also eating meat which has been grain-fed on feed lots and injected with hormones and all kinds of things. This is bad for anyone.

Look at the remaining indigenous populations of the world who eat their native diets. All of them eat meat to some extent, some more than otthers; in fact, some Inuit populations have a diet that is about 90% meat and they do very well with this, they are not dying of kidney failure. Poor health only tends to become a problem when they switch to a Western diet. I recommend looking into the studies of Dr. Weston A. Price to find out more about this. You can try this link for a start: http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm

And yes, there is plenty of evidence that grains are not very healthy foods. Some people can eat whole grains without any trouble. The majority of people cannot. Grains are a recent addition to the human diet and no, we don't have all the enzymes we need to digest grains properly. Grains contain enzyme-blockers, amongst other things. That's because they are essentially seeds, and seeds have natural defences like these to prevent creatures from eating them. Overconsumption of grains is linked to all manner of diseases including cancer, leaky gut syndrome and autoimmune problems, heart disease and more. They also contain an abundance of omega-6, which is the main reason why there is such a huge imbalance in the essential fatty acids in the Western diet. This also leads to a lot of problems.

No grain contains trace minerals or anything else that can't be got from other sources, where did this idea come from? The human race exiisted and thrived without grains for millennia. There is nothing any grain contains that is not contained in more abundance in fruit or veg. Just to be sure, because our soil is often in pretty poor condition these days, you can take a colloidal mineral supplement.

Do your research Anon and you might be surprised. Try looking at the Weston A. Price site, there's loads of info there. Also try the links at the Mercola site that I have posted in this thread. I'll give them again here:

http://www.mercola.com/article/insulin.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2006/nov/9/i...se-your-risk-of-deadly-kidney-cancer.htm

Regards,
Linda.

Hi, I have found that I have had differing reactions at different stages of my life and have altered profoundly. At onetime, I did extremely well on raw fruits and vegetables and little meat (I only had meat sparingly and hardly ever ate eggs). I had also eliminated sugar and gluten from my diet. But still had some milk in my tea and cereal (non gluten cereal). So I did excellently on these foods, especially raw.

However, people change sometimes through circumstances and it appears through other problems my body is so different now to what it was then, as to be almost completely opposite. The only similarity is having to stay off sugar, gluten, yeast.

If I try and eat that diet now? I do not get away with it. I now cannot eat fruit at all, other than some lemon juice and "tomatoes" (if they are technially a fruit). I only get away with meats, eggs and low carb vegetables, little plain acidophilus yoghurt and "maybe" some raw almonds/brazil nuts. Branching out into fruits and grains and my troubles begin to worsen quite rapidly. THen I have to go through the pain of waiting till symptoms subside again. Cheese included.

This is how bad I have become. I feel that through infections/bacteria etc, that my body now deteriorates readily through anything that is sugar, even natural and that means high carbs in veg and grain, not just fruits. Almost as though it feeds this now so easily.

I am sad because though I had to once miss out on sugar and gluten, I could still eat the other stuff once, including natural treats like some honey, and carob. I did so well on those things once with fruits etc that it just amazes me how different I now am.

So I think the main, worse things anybody can consume is the typical sugar, gluten, white flour type of diet. But those of us that really have so many things wrong at once, may find ourselves heavily restricted in order to control symptoms. I dont enjoy it, but that is how my body now responds. So I eat mainly the foods I once would hardly eat at all (eggs and meat).

I really think a person has to find out what suits them. Avoid the obvious garbage foods and concentrate on all the natural and go from there. If some of the natural stuff causes problems? Eliminate that also and see if there is improvement. If you find you do ok or even well on meats and eggs, great. If not? limit them. Problem is, they give so much of what we need like iron and B12 etc. I dont know if one can get enough of that from just vegetables, considering also how much now is stripped from those foods in this world.

Everybody is so different, that what one person can tolerate lots of, another person may have to limit. I wish personally I could go back to my previous diet, but it is not worth the agony.

I believe in my personal opinion that all these natural foods should be fine to eat for all of us. Nuts, seeds, fruits, vegetables, yogurt, meat, eggs, honey, properly prepared grains, etc. But so many things have mucked so many of us up, as to tip us into some strange reactions, even to good foods.

I also am an advocate of Dr Weston Price because of his extensive studies around the world of so many cultures and the healthiest specimens and finding out exactly what they ate, their lifestyle etc. He got the best out of them all.

Mexicans and central Americans eat lots of fruit and grain, especially corn and have low levels of diabetes and cancer until they come to the US and eat our high fat low fiber diet. Asains eat lots of rice and have a diet with a high percentage of carbohydrates but live longer than North Americans.
Is'nt Weston Price a dentist not a nutritionist?

Do you mainly have carrot juice Sandi or a variety of vegetables?

Yes, as far as I am aware, Dr Weston Price is both a dentist and nutritionist. In fact, dentistry was part of what lead him to study cultures around the world because of how much worse the western dental problems were.

If low fat diets were the answer, why are people getting fatter and sicker? These are the "in" thing, yet are simply not working. It isn't the fat you should be blaming, but rather the white flour, sugar and WRONG fats like hardened vegetable oils/trans fats.

Two people I know are fat and eat every low fat food they can. Guess what? They are not only NOT getting slimmer, but fatter as far as I can notice. They assume that if something has fat in it, this means they will put on weight. Wrong. Perhaps if they started eating the right natural foods they might find a change.

If you actually read Price's studies, you will find he mentions all kinds of foods for health like fruits and vegetables etc. It isn't just about meat and fats, however he has discovered cultures who surivive nicely on a mainly meat and fat diet. He does not advocate eating this alone, but rather a balance of these foods to get the best of both worlds.

You only have to look his findings up yourself. It is very interesting.

Here is another link that Dr Mercola talks about him as well.
http://www.mercola.com/2001/jan/28/weston_price2.htm

To me, Price has gone out on a limb to provide evidence for his studies for the rest of us so we can benefit from it. Photographs as well.

Here is another link for you so you can find out the types of people who are part of the Weston Price foundation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_A._Price_Foundation

If this doesn't convince you that these people might just have some clue of what they speak, then nothing will. The asian / Mexican culture is FAR from the only one to study and certainly is not the healthiest compared to the other ones Price discovered.

The asian diet is certainly far better than the typical western one, but this hardly covers it all. I did well too once on fruits and vegetables and grains and low meat consumption, but the main reason why I improved was ousting sugar, gluten, white flour, yeast out of my diet.

I do just as well on meats, eggs. fats, no fruit, vegetables. Simply because the bad foods are out of my diet and are replaced by natural foods and healthy fats. I no longer get the heart symptoms I started getting when consuming the hardened vegetable oils (interesting that). They disappeared, yet I now eat liberal amounts now of butter, olive oil, fish oil, flaxseed oil etc...and even fat on meat.

i do moan about the anti yeast diet im on but i know il never eat wheat,sugar, etc again, its not healthy.

Apparently. I had some trouble digesting grains when I was real sick with it (literally could not poop when first ill after the dental work, used an OTC herbal colon cleanse to clear that), brown rice would pass right through and I am big on brown rice so that bothered me a lot. Seems to have cleared up.

It may be that I get some good enzymes from other stuff, yogurt, fresh veggies, I am big on salads too. Many days that's all we eat around here. my daughter has always been the only kid I know who loves salad but she has been eating it since she had teeth unlike lots of bottled food fed kids, something she never experienced. I am also quite active, which helps keep things moving along too. And I drink lots of good clean spring water.(not bottled).

Combination of things I think, I rarely eat processed junk foods. Only bread and things of that nature (pasta) make the processed food list here, I never buy that stuff, they are full of hydrogenated fats and soy.

Just as a note Sandi... a couple weeks ago I made a great big pot of chili con carne (using several varieties of fresh peppers from the garden to flavor it, no prepackaged chili mix) and oh my gosh, I ate a whole bunch and the next morning I think my colon and entire intestine emptied itself nicely (not diahrea) into the sewer.

I have to do that again, better than the colon cleanse product I bought, certainly much quicker! Beans beans good for your heart...!! I don't recall having gas after though so omit the ending of that..

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I eat a variety of veggies and salads and fruits and up to 10 green and carrot juices a day, depending on how well I feel. I think my body might be detoxing a bit too fast, the iodine must be moving out a lot of mercury and chemo metals, I have been feeling kind of paranoid lately....really feeling yucky!!!

Sandi
xoxo

Celiac disease which is a genetic inability to digest glutn only affect about two percent of the population.

Your friends on low fat diets are obviously fat because they consume too many calories.If you eat a diet that has only 10% of it's calories from fat, you will be hungry all the time and get fat because you overeat. You should have at least 20% of your calories from fat but no more than 30%.
Our ancestors a million years ago probably did'nt have meat every day
.Maybe different people do better on different diets because of blood type and other genetic factors. While Asains ,Mexicans and Central americans eat grain , they don't eat much wheat so maybe wheat is worse than rice etc.I can't believe that a diet of meat eggs and fat provides adequate nutrition Bex.

Have you looked into the macrobiotic diet Sandi ?

No Anon, I haven't. I have to do this one for at least a year or maybe 2....I don't know how I am going to do it.

Sandi
xoxo

Anon please do your research before coming to conclusions. There have been plenty of links posted here. If you also eat loads of veg and fruit then this diet will lead to health and healing.

Sandi,
If you are juicing ten times a day , you might get carotenemia if all your juices have carrots. You should'nt have more than a few carrots a day.

Carotenemia? Do you mean when your skin starts looking orange? This is not harmful and many believe it is healthful. It looks very weird though. The first skin to start looking orange is typically the skin on the hands and feet.

Yup I am turning a bit orange, but I am olive skinned so it suits me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> And I do drink several green ones a day, not all carrot juices. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Sandi
xoxo

Your own link shows that the ancestral paleo diet was very low in fat and high in fiber and carbs.
Grains are very good sources of silicon, lithium , molybdenum vanadium

There is debate about this. Do some research.