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Anyone any good at understanding hair test results?

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html

I am number 112 – 38 years old Male, London, UK

I do not meet the counting rules, so I assume that means the test is valid. I am Toxic mercury.

I am reading Andy’s hair test book at the moment to try a figure out what it all means.

Sunshine:

I am no expert, though I have Cutler's book too.

You do not meet counting rules, neither did I. But your mercury level is high. I think page 160 might explain. "Some hair tests are easy to interpret because the person's mineral transport proteins are tolerant of mercury, their mineral transport is not deranged, but they get exposed to a really large amount of mercury and it shows up nicely in their hair."

Like I said, I am no expert, but I have been tracking my results over time. I could not attach a word file - how do I convert this to acceptable file type?

Anyway, you can see toxic levels coming down. Unfortunately, no one told me to get a test before I started massive supplementation and chelation! So levels are already lower than they probably were. But I did not show high mercury in hair, but you can see some deranged mineral transport, and my blood tests show classic mercury signs of low dhea-s, and testosterone levels.

My question to you is like "Do you eat titanium rods" for breakfast or what? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> But if you look at page 106, Cutler says it is not uncommon to have elevated titanium levels with mercury induced mineral transport derangement. But you don't meet counting rules. Hmmmm? But I think connection is there.

Like me, you show low iodine and lithium, see page 124 and 125 - you probably have seen this by now. I would be interested in hearing what you have figured out, and how you might treat low lithium and iodine levels.

Thanks!

TW

Hi Sunshine,
did you get the tests done by a practioner of some kind?
When I got hairtests done,the results came back with pages &pages of detailed info. about each metal,mineral etc. and explaining how to balance these out through supplements &
diet etc.
I am suprised that your results are not explained to you!
wow mercury looks high to my untrained eye.
I know I'm not a doctor but when I got my results,which were high too in various metals I was told the hair levels showed up higher during or after detox when the mercury is leaving &that it's a positive sign it's leaving the body.
I'm rambling now and need to sign out...

"Do you eat titanium rods" for breakfast or what?

LOL, excellent. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />That is so funny Tumbleweed! Hahahahahaha Supurb! I was wondering why my titantum was so high! Why did I not think it could be those pesky Titanium rods I munch everyday at the breakfast table. Lol lol lol <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Thanks buddy for having a look at my results. Yes, page 160 is very similar to me, and also there is someone on page 216 that is also very similar too.

“Some hair tests are easy to interpret because the person's mineral transport proteins are tolerant of mercury, their mineral transport is not deranged, but they get exposed to a really large amount of mercury and it shows up nicely in their hair."

I think that this comment is very relevant to me and my test results, so its really cool you noticed that too. Thanks. Great minds think alike!

I have just read Andy’s hair test book and I have complied my own findings, which I will post them or email u if u want?

I would like to see your results too, especially if we both have low iodine and lithium. What are u doing about that? Can u send me a PM on this forum? Does that work? Otherwise I will just give u my email.

Sunflower.
I got my tests done at “Doctorsdata” which is the lab which Andy cutler uses in his book, so it makes comparison simpler.

The results came with 4-5 pages of explaining whats what. Andy Cutlers book “hair test interpretation” is almost 300 pages long and gives a massive amount of information, what to do, what it might mean, what it does and does not mean, really detailed stuff. I found it fascinating, trying to figure out what my results mean and what actions I should take because of the results.
If mineral transport is deranged because of the merucy then hair test result become very difficult to understand and a lab report will not take deranged mineral transport into account when they print out that standard stuff.
Deranged mineral transport is very common in mercury people.

It would seem that my mineral transport is normal and my results are therefore valid. But since I don’t trust “doctors” to interpret my results…I gotta do it myself.

Yeah, mercury looks high to me too, well into the red! Bingo! At least now I know for sure it’s the mercury that’s been screwing me over all this time! Chelation here we come.

And yes, I was mildly pleased to see high mercury, at least my body can get it out on its own. But maybe my body burden is very high, and its hanging on to even more………I don’t like thinking things like that. Reading the book was important for me. I need to know for myself.

I have my 3rd quadrant of amalgams for removal this wednesday coming. Last quadrant will be 2-4 weeks after that, all going well.

Tumbleweed……you kill me man. Titanium rods indeed! LOL <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Hi Sunshine,
Titanium rods made me laugh too.I have ordered the Andy Cutler book&the Hal Huggins 1 too.Will soon know what you all talking about.Feel so humbled by all of your wisdom...
The last of my fillings are coming out on Friday.Hope all goes well for you on Wednesday.
May the force be with you.

Sunshine:

If you want to post your e-mail, I could mail you my hair and blood tracking forms and see what you think. They are Excel files - do you have Excel? If not, how about Word? I could convert them.

I will say that where you show high mercury levels in hair, I don't. This MIGHT be due to the fact my new doctor had me on NDF+ for a number of months before I had my first hair test done.

It would be cool to see your results, especially to see if your mercury level drops over time as you chelate. Maybe you could post results after each test?

TW

HI Sunshine

I had a look at your hair analysis. I'm no expert, but I recall from Andy Cutler's hair analysis book that if you have high hair mercury, you have mercury issues, period. My first hair test was the same - no other metals but high hair mercury into the red. Also elevated calcium is another indicator of mercury issues.

Your low sodium / potassium levels show that your adrenals are in trouble - do you take adrenal support? Your thyroid looks OK-ish (Na/ K ratio), but your blood sugar ratio (magnesium / calcium) is over 30 and suggests blood sugar problems, probably linked with low adrenals. I would say adrenal support plus a very low GI diet would be the way forward, as well as supplementing magnesium to try and even out the imbalance. Copper looks very high to me, but I don't know much about how to bring that down, but I'm sure Andy talks about that in AI.You have a high overall toxic representation - you must be feeling rough. Treating adrenals and possibly thyroid (I would do some serum or saliva testing to get another view - none of these results - hair, serum, saliva - are 100% accurate) should help a lot.

Dean should be giving his view on FDC. He's pretty insightful too.

Have you removed your amalgams / chelating?

Best of luck
Nicola

The Force is strong with you, young Sunflower, but you are not a Jedi yet. Congratulations for ordering the books and getting the mercury out, you too will soon discover the power of the Force.

Tumbleweed, lets have a look then danielproudfoot2001@hotmail.com
Whatever, excel or word.

Imgeha, thanks for looking too. No adrenal support, I have no adrenal knowledge, but that will be investigated next. Copper is a serious issue and I need to take steps to sort that out. Yes, I’m feeling rough, I have good days and bad days, but better recently which is cool. I can still work which is important. I have 2 more quandrants of amalgams to remove. Chelating will not start until earliest 4 days after final mercury is out.
FDC – yes that is a wonderful group. I get the emails everyday. Lots of mercury knowledge going on there.

Anyway, I have done lots of research on my hair test results. I have typed up my findings, so that I remember whats what, so that it’s clear in my mind what I need to be doing. Since you all so kindly spent some time offering help I will post here what I figured out.
However, it’s a bit long, not a book or anything, but 4 sides of A4 paper. More of a 10 minute job than a 1 minute wonder. I will email u the file if the post does not come out that clearly. The WORD file has got color and underlined bits and bobs that make it much kinder to the eye.

And its not quite finished yet. I will try and finish tonight because Wednesday I get some more amalgams out and that usually screws me up and I will be unable think straight for 3-4 days. I am longing to get this toxic slag out of my mouth, but not looking forward to the side effects again ……no pain, no gain <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

29th September 2007

Hair Test number 1. Collected 5th Sept 2007

(Note: anything in blue type means I should consider supplementing that)

After reading Andy cutlers book “Hair Test Interpretation” I have made the following observations:

---------------my count result---- rules
Counting rule #1 ----- 10 ----- (5 or less go right)
Counting rule #2 ----- 13 ----- (5 or less go left)
Counting rule #3 ----- 3 ----- (4 or more hit the red)
Counting rule #4 ----- 13 ----- (11 or less in middle green band)
Counting rule #5 ----- this rule is not meet. ----(2 rules come up 1 short each)

I do NOT meet the counting rules. This implies I have normal mineral transport.

Rule 3. I score 3 here; this is regarded as “unusual” (page 26)
Rule 4. I score 13 here; this is regarded as “unusual” (page 26)
If two or more are unusual then the level of suspicion can be bumped up one level to “Suspicious”
So……………….my results do not meet the counting rules, but they are “suspicious”

Mercury Indicators
Mercury – elevated hair mercury means mercury problems, regardless of orderly or deranged mineral transport. So even if I miss-read everything else on this hair test, this alone shows that I have a mercury problem and that I should get all amalgams removed and chelate it out. Page 245.
I should not delay chelation longer than 1-2 months after amalgam removal.

I have very low Lithium levels (in the red) together with high calcium; this is frequently associated with mercury poisoning.

Aluminium + Titanium are both very high, particularly mega high titanium. These are NOT a toxic problem. Page 86, 87, 239
High hair aluminium is sign of a mercury problem. Page 239. (Maybe from my high antacid use of 9 years?)
“Aluminium becomes elevated due to mercury induced derangement of mineral transport before the test meets a counting rule. “ Page 87.
“Titanium is vastly elevated very early in derangement of mineral transport” page 250. I think this perfectly fits my situation.
High Titanium + high aluminium is a sign that I am mercury toxic. Page 107.
High titanium could also be due to “a post for dental implant” however my post was removed about 12-15 years ago. So I don’t know if it could be that. I think it is more likely that the high titanium is due to a mercury problem

Page 160. this person is very similar to me. high mercury and does not meet the counting rules. The symptoms are similar, i.e lots of physical, digestion problems, but no mention of mental problems. My mental problems are much less then many other mercury people. Only (haha! only???) some short term memory problems.
“Some hair tests are easy to interpret because the persons mineral transport proteins are tolerant of mercury, their mineral transport is not deranged, but they get exposed to a really large amount of mercury and it shows up nicely in their hair.” – I think this is just like my hair test. That is assuming that the mineral transport is NOT deranged and that I am reading the test correctly. This person chelated and got better.
Page 216. This is another example person of high mercury levels and does not meet the counting rules, just as on page 160. This person greatly improved after chelation.

Other problems
My calcium/magnesium levels are out of sink. This means I have blood sugar regulation problems. (page 112, 228, 253)
I have been supplementing magnesium all year, but not calcium because calcium made me constipated. When I did the liver flushes it was obvious when I took the mega doses of magnesium that my body was retaining magnesium (because my bowels did not flush as much as they should have.) I think this is linked to the two being out of sink.
Ratio of calcium to magnesium is not within reasonable limits, which means I have glucose intolerance. P112.
For high calcium I should take calcium supplements. Page 251. plus vit D, magnesium plus Boron.

My potassium/calcium levels are out of sink. This suggests “a physiologically inappropriate level of thyroid hormones” page 56.

Abnormal ratio calcium/phosphorous mean I should have a high fat diet. Page 253.

Potassium and sodium down, with calcium and magnesium up means adrenals not making enough cortisol or adrenaline and the thyroid is somewhat low. Page 113
However my magnesium does not follow this, but I have been supplementing magnesium all year, but it is close enough to investigate these problems.
Page 253. supplement: chromium, vanadium and zinc

Copper is a problem for me. I have very high copper into the red. I need to NOT supplement copper. I need to investigate copper and be aware copper is a serious problem. Page 86, 115.
I do not know where I could have got copper contamination from in the outside world, so I assume it is due to my liver & kidney problems. (I assume my liver & kidney problems are due to my very high dairy consumption, poor diet and mercury.)
Liver problem, gallstones (9 flushes and still lots of gallstones coming out), lead to copper excretion being mildly reduced.
Since mercury and copper are excreted in the bile, copper + mercury are a common problem with people who have weak livers. That’s me! Page 116.
High copper is due to poor excretion by the liver.
Zinc inhibits copper absorption, as does Vit C. Molybdenum reduces body copper. Iron reduces copper too. Page 256. I currently supplement iron, maybe this is why when I muscle test iron, my body seems to need more of the stuff. Talk to simon.
Supplements that will increase bile flow will increase copper excretion, milk thistle.
High copper causes kidney troubles. That’s me!
Low adrenal function causes copper accumulation too. Page 117.
Body copper is lowered by progesterone. Supplement progesterone? What is this stuff, isn’t is a woman’s hormone or something, anyway….investigate lots before taking something I know nothing about.

High hair calcium levels indicate that I need to supplement calcium. Page 109.

Low potassium means I have low thyroid function. Page 111. However my levels are not very low, but they are low enough to investigate my thyroids. Once chelation starts, these get stressed so best to investigate now.

Exercise is good for me, because of high calcium relative to sodium and potassium.. I will feel better if I can exercise, better health and mood. This I know, yoga makes me feel fantastic, however due back pain I have been unable to do any exercise for 1.5 years. Page 114, 254

Zinc. My zinc levels are normal. This seems strange to me, because things such as liver, kidney, bowel problems usually occur along with zinc deficiency.
The only time you don’t take more zinc is if it is normal and mineral transport is orderly. Page 260 says if normal do NOT supplement. This applies to me! But……………should I supplement zinc anyway for Copper because copper is a big problem? Also for my high molybdenum levels? Don’t know, I need to ask Yahoo FDC.
Mercury people tolerate high level zinc supplementation for prolonged periods of many years. Page 85. My zinc levels however look fine, so I question if I need to supplement zinc???????????????
Because my copper is high, I should supplement zinc because it inhibits copper absorption. Anyway, I need to ask Yahoo FDC for confirmation.
Poss supplement for adrenals, but until I investigate adrenals more, that should not be the reason to take zinc.

My Manganese is low in the yellow. I am deficient so I should supplement 5-15 mg per day. Page 258.
(AI says it should be supplemented only in low dasage page 158 AI)

My cobalt is very low, in the red. This might mean I have B12 deficiency so that means I should possibly keep supplementing Vit B12 and consider increasing the dosage to a higher level. Page 128. Overall I think I should increase my B12 dosage.

SCD – specific carbohydrate diet – this is a diet that mercury people get along very well with. I should investigate this. Buy “breaking the vicious circle” by Elaine Gohschall.


Arsenic looks ok, all the other supplements will help this anyway. Arsenic and mercury often cause chemically sensitive due to deranged liver.


My thyroids look ok, sodium + potassium are similar.
But….potassium to calcium looks bad, which suggests a thyroid problem.
Is my supplementing magnesium having an effect?
Whatever….thyroids should be investigated further.

Iron. I should stop iron supplementation. My iron level is a little high, (maybe because I have been supplementing it?) but prob no need to supplement. Iron is in my diet anyway.
BUT……..why when I muscle test iron does my body need iron?????? Check this with Simon. Page 255. Is it because of copper toxic?

Boron is low. I should supplement boron 3mg. page 255. before I take this stuff, investigate what it is.

Iodine was very low. Need to investigate Goiter. Ask Simon. Supplement kelp??? Page 257

Lithium is very low, in the red so I need to supplement lithium. Page 257.

Molybdenum – I have high molybdenum, in the yellow so I should NOT supplement this. I could supplement with copper and zinc IF it is a problem. (but I should not supplement copper, so that’s out anyway.) So, if anything, supplementing zinc could be of benefit due to high molybdenum. Page 258.
I think someone said I should supplement this, so I should check with Yahoo FDC again to make sure.

Selenium is low in the yellow, so I should supplement with selenium and VIT E.

MY CONCLUSIONS
I am mercury toxic.
I do not meet the counting rules, which means that my test results are accurate. But since I am mercury toxic, they might NOT all be accurate, so I should not assume everything is spot on. The high mercury reading is very significant. This means chelation should be tried.
My results are “suspicious” – my iodine is very close to the red, which would tip-me over into meeting the counting rules. Could my daily salt consumption affect my iodine level? Maybe? Ask simon.
When I can exercise again, I should do so, as this will very likely help me. Exercise is good, as is obvious as I love it when I am able to exercise.

Further Investigations
Thyroids/adrenals – tests plus read-up andy’s files, because even if not a big problem now, they could become worse when chealtion in under way. But, maybe they are screwed up now anyway and I just don’t know it yet. Investigate! My waking body temperature remains lower than it should be. Investigate.

4 x per day saliva cortisol test
Thyroid testing, at least free T3, free T4, antithyroid antibodies, (plus others?)
TSH test, then checkout secondary hypothyroidism.
Look up tired adrenals in yahoo FDC and Andy’s AI

When testing thyroids get other hormones tested, like testosterone.

Blood sugar levels – investigate, ask Simon where to start!.

SCD – specific carbohydrate diet Buy “breaking the vicious circle” by Elaine Gohschall.

Liver metabolism? – whilst I’m looking into all these bloody tests, I may as well see if any point in getting liver tested as the same time, although I know mine is full of gallstones.

Supplementation
Note: taking supplements is very important, but getting my supplements quantities exactly right is not important.

This is a LOT of supplements; I assume I need to refine these down somewhat. If I take this many supplements I will not have enough room to eat any food! Discuss with Simon and FDC as to what to keep and what to not.

These recommendations are ONLY from the hair test book/hair test results.
Omega 3 – flax oil – 10-50 grams per day.
Calcium – 500mg (should be twice level of magnesium)
Selenium
Vit D – (get more sunshine!) (may help with the calcium?) (think its Vit D3 I need)
Vit B12 – 1-12mg (not mcg)
Manganese 5-15 mg ( but low dosage, not above RDA.)
Boron - 3mg. investigate
Lithium – yes, but what dosage?
Chromium – 200 mcg per meal plus 1000 mcg extra per day.
Vanadium - ? this is all about adnenals, so investigate them before taking this.
Vit C – 4-12 grams per day. Buffered for is better.
Milk thistle. 1-2 capsules per meal. (Equivalent 250-750mg silymarin)

With the following supplements I need specific help to see if I should take, ask Simon+FDC
Kelp? – ask Simon (start @ low dosage)
Zinc? – 50-100mg per day. I think yes, but ask yahoo FDC
Molybdenum? – 1,000 mcg. Ask yahoo FDC
Iron – no stop taking this supplement.
Progesterone? – investigate be taking it, but I think I have enough supplements.

I am already currently taking the following supplements(2nd Oct 2007)
Magnesium citrate 1000 mg (morning)
Btaine & pepsin 960mg + 20 mg (breakfast, lunch and dinner)
Vit E 400mg (600iu) (4000pct RDA) (breakfast, dinner)
Vit C 368mg (600pct RDA) plus vit E 30mg (breakfast, dinner)
Vt B12 100ug (10000pct RDA) (breakfast, dinner)
Ion plus vit C 10mg plus Vit C 300mg (breakfast, dinner) – need to stop this.
GTF chromium 120 ug (breakfast, lunch and dinner)
2 x large Dosage Multi Vit B (breakfast, dinner)
Turin 2000mg (breakfast, dinner)
Pobiotic (1.5 teaspoon at bedtime) (this replaces the grapefruit seed extract)

All supplements quantities and timings need re-checking. Also muscle test each new supplement with Simon.
When introducing new supplements, take one new one at a time and slowly build up dosage until at required dosage, then on to the next when sure everything ok.

End.

Phew….that was long, fun, interesting and important.
Think I should to re-read “Amalgam Illness” again now.

Sunshine:

Wow! You are not only a Jedi Master, I think you are ready to take on Jabba over at Pizzahut! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Anyway, I've ignored this book enough, let me delve into it and what you posted, and think about it for awhile. One thing, careful on over supplementation. I don't know what I am talking about quite yet, but some authors think that you can do too much, and you are better off getting what you need through a natural diet. I'm reading now a book called " Extraordinary Healing" by Art Brownstein, MD that warns against trying to replace diet with vitamins and minerals. Some of the stuff you can buy might be great for you. Others might cause problems long-term.

Later,

TW

For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter mercury. You must feel the Force around you.

Careful over supplementation? Yes, you read so many conflicting infomations, its difficult to know what to do. I have decided to go with Andy’s protocol and that includes heavy supplementation. I have not been doing heavy supplementation so far, but I have tried everything else, so I may as well try this too.

My diet remains uber-healthy.

Wise , you are, Master Sunshine...
Life improved for me with intense supplementing &diet changes with help from a nutritional therapist.In 2003,hair tests showed copper levels nearly off the charts but these came right down after about 8 months of supplements/diet.
Had a whole cupboard full of various supplements,about 30/40/50 a day.(now it's about 10)
They have such powerful healing capabilities &it might feel a bit unnatural to take specific vits.&mins in such large quantities but as you learn more about the diseases the imbalances can cause,I find supplementing a good diet with vit&min far superior to masking an illness/symptom with some medical drug.
I'm sure that one can take too many vits,mins,but it is probably not physically possible to consume in food alone the amounts needed at the moment to help correct all the specific imbalances...down the line you can ease off...

I am a fan of Patrick Holford,you no doubt have heard of and if you don't already have it "The Optimum Nutrition Bible" is great.He's lots of other books on more specific health issues
but the opt.bible is a great general one.
He believes and has me convinced that in this day &age we all need to supplement our diet,even those of us who eat an organic,healthy well balanced diet.The extra need being due to stress,environment etc.Not just us who are sick,but everyone.I take high strenght multivits&minerals 3 xdaily &
lots of immunce C,vit c with immune boosting herbs &LOTS
of organic veg,fruit,as many different colours as possible.
He also talks about food combining which is great for stabilising blood sugar etc...

I know I am preaching to the converted here,and rambling too.
Patrick Holford is where it's at.
Sunflower
ps also"Food is better medicine than drugs." is another 1of his great books,I recommend a look!

It's your father's lightsaber. This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or as random as a blaster, but an elegant weapon for a more civilized age. For over a thousand generations, the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times, before the Empire.

“Improve your digestion” by Patrick Holfford was the 2nd health book I ever read. That was February this year! It opened my eyes to a new way of thinking. I found it amazing that for almost every ill in that book, he recommended diet to solve the problem. I couldn’t believe that diet could solve all those digestive problems that book talks about, so I tried it out to see if it would help me.
I have had chronic heartburn for years. I mean real real bad heartburn 24 hours a day, nightmare bad heartburn. 2 weeks of a healthy diet and heartburn was 95pct gone. Mine blowing stuff for an ignorant city boy like me. Made me want to throttle the stupid doctor that said I would “have heartburn for life, and here takes these pills for the rest of your life too.” – The bloody pills didn’t even work very well, and caused loads of side effects.

I have had 37 years of taking multiple OTC drugs and prescription drugs, but no more. I have had enough of being poisoned with man made, chemically engineered gunk.

I'm so glad to hear that.I love to hear these sucess stories.
It is so powerful &mind blowing.I have lots of his books &
recipe books too.
This sounds extreme but I don't know if I'd still be around if I hadn't changed my diet to the optimum one,
I was getting frightening hypoglycaemic episodes,where I'd nearly lose consciousness.I know if I arrived at doctors I'd be given drugs but through this diet I know what to eat,&what foods to combine, and my bloodsugar is balanced.
I've been to a few of his seminars in Dublin,but it's usually same stuff as in the book,with the exception of any up to the minute new stuff. I got to say thankyou in person so am delighted to have met him.He also has a book "Optimum nutrition for your childs mind"it's excellent
Sunflower
ps As for the doctors' diagnosis/prediction of"heartburn for life " there is a quote from "The secret"that I love
"incurable =curable from within"

My second Hair Elements Test dated 25th November 2007
The purpose of this second hair test was to see what has happened to my copper levels.
My first hair test, just under 3 months previously, had high copper (in the red @ 59)

First test and second hair test Number 112 series – 38yrs Male, London, UK

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/hairtest.html

This message will list what has changed since then. A lot has changed.

Since then I have taken steps to reduce my copper levels by supplementing:
zinc 100mg, Molybdenum 1,000 mcg, milk thistle 800mg, taurine 2000mg.
I also massively increased my Vit C intake from below 500mg to 6-9 grams per day depending how I felt. When I felt real bad I moved up to bowel tolerance which for me is about 12-14 grams per day. I have had a lot of bad days.

I have also upped the rest of my supplements too
Vit D3 1000 IU, COQ10 200 mg, Boron - 2mg, 100ug Vit B12, 150mg Kelp, Magnesium citrate 1000 mg, Betaine & pepsin 960mg + 20 mg, Vit E 600mg, GTF chromium 120 ug, 2 c Multi Vit B large Dosage
flax oil – 1 table spoon, plus ¼ tsp each of sage, thyme, ginger, cinnamon, cloves, Plus 1-2 tsp himalayan rock salt per day

Most supplements have been split up and taken at breakfast, lunch and dinner.

This was a big change in my supplementation regime. It did not happen over night, one supplement at a time was introduced to make sure nothing bad happened, so I have not been taking all these supplements for all the time between the different hair tests. But I did introduce zinc, molybdenum, milk thistle and taurine first.

I have religiously excluded all copper foods, and all sulphur foods for all the time inbetween tests. (I am intolerant to sulphur foods)

Almost immediately after the first hair test (and before changing the supplements to the above) I had a big turn around in my health status. At the time of my first hair test I was really sick, chronically ill. My health was in perpetual decline, nothing helping me get better. My biggest problem then was my digestion. It was really bad. I could only eat salad (excluding sulphur foods) for breakfast lunch and dinner. Anything else gave me major symptoms lasting 5-10 days. I was malnourished, underweight and in serious serious trouble.
No need to specifically say how the turnaround happened as it will take too long,(it was nothing to do with the above supplements) but I reduced my toxic body burden significantly. One moment I was sick as a dog and fading away, the next my digestion was 60pct better, I put on 10kg in 1 month, 60pct of my food intolerances fell away overnight and I started healing at long last, slowly but surely getting better.
Although my diet is far from normal it is a million miles better than it was at the time of the first hair test. I am actually digesting my food now, whereas before I was not doing that very well.
My BM’s became much more normal, 2-3 times per day and color went from light tan to a much darker color. I know this is to do with bile from the liver, so I assume my liver is working better now. It certainly feels much better, although I still have gallstones giving me grief on a regular basis.

Symptoms:
Chronic back problems with chronic back pain in top, middle and lower spine for 9-10 years. Gradually leading to inability to do any physical exercise, although I can still work in my office job. This has got better recently, especially the muscle weakness has calmed right down since I have been amalgam free. I hope to be able to do some exercise soon.
I am still very underweight. I weight; 62kg, I am 6foot 1 inch tall.
Chronic fatigue just started to rear it ugly head this year.
I feel tired, weak, lacking in energy most of the time. I am stuck in second gear.
Multiple food intolerances are now much better, “only” dairy and sulphur and additives like MSG
Multiple chemical sensitivities – still remain but difficult to test.
Tingly arms, legs, head…..yes….everyday.

What else has changed in-between hair tests?
I got the remainder of my amalgams removed. Two quadrants, with rubber dam and oxygen. Each removal caused much brain fog, pain and nastiness which repeated 7/14/21 days later. I went amalgam free on 1st November 2007.

I started chelation as per protocol 12.5mg every 4 hours for 3 days even dosing at night. At the time of the second test I had done two rounds @ 12.5mg. I have been getting symptoms on rounds which I think confirms my mercury toxicity. I have had to reduce my dosage times from 4 to 3 hours and I will reduce dosage levels on the next rounds from 12.5 down to 6mg. my color vision is getting better as each round in completed.

Here I highlight the major differences between the two tests:
Aluminium is down from 14.0 to 3.0
Mercury is down from 4.1 to 1.8
Titanium to down from 32 to 0.7
Magnesium up from 40 to 58
Sodium up from 12 to 80
Potassium up from 11 to 20
Copper down from 59 to 32 – good news!
Molybdenum down from 0.10 to 0.029
Iodine up from 0.13 to 0.25

Also interesting to note what happened to the things I decided NOT to supplement:
Manganese – is lower in the 2nd test
Selemium is slightly lower but basically unchanged.
Lithium out of the red now, even though I did not supplement
Maybe I should supplement selenium and lithium?

The first test did not meet the counting rules, but was pretty suspect.
The second hair test does not meet the counting rules.

I don’t have any experience with these tests except for my own, but they look quite different to my eyes.

Looking at the two tests I would say they reflect what is happening in my life…I am slowly getting better, my problems remain but are less serious.

Sunshine How would I do a hair test when I shave my head every 8 days?Can I use hair from the armpits?
Were is the best place to order a test Kit? I done the Greenpeace kit but used my short hair and did not show high mercury.

Hi Lawdog

First things first….you need to buy that book I keep banging on about.

You will self diagnose yourself in the first 60 pages. It is very satisfying realising that you are not mad, that in fact you are just sick….. and not mental.

Anyway…………….hair tests

You can use pubic hair. Not ideal. Not as good. But it does the job just fine.

Andy Cutler also wrote another book, which is all about hair tests and what they mean. Called “hair test interpretations: finding hidden toxicities”

If you read all my above thread you will see how much time and effort I have put in to understand my results. Bloody loads and its hard work, but it was worth it because I learn lots that I did not know about myself. I found out ALL my organs are full of mercury and everything needs help and support…which is why I feel so ill and why I need to take so many supplements. But as you can see from my two test results, the actions I have taken have worked and I am less ill. But no way could I understand my results without first having read the book “amalgam illness”

But anyway…I keep distracting myself…..hair tests…..

You need to do the right test, from the right laboratory. If u do anything different it is not possible to compare your results with others, so the test will be pointless.

All instructions are here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_hair_test.html

when u have done the test then you post the results as I did on that website, the those people on Yahoo FDC will help you understand what it all means.

It costs $93....they post worldwide.

http://www.directlabs.com/

you need to order the “hair elements” test (NOT “hair toxic element exposure”)

And no……before you get any great ideas about showing that test to your doctors and getting some help from them…don’t bother. They will not understand it. My doctor called it “mumbo-jumbo”

That sounds good that you got that copper down.. my copper stayed exactly the same though I took 50 mg zinc daily for months... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I have to add that I still have all my amalgams in my mouth though...

errr yeah, amalgams in yr mouth are not going to help.

i supplemented zinc 100mg per day

yeah, agreed. Some people just don't get it with the first warning, or even a second warning. I haven't even managed to convince my dad to take out his cursed amalgams, and yet he clearly suffers from mercury poisoning, from which I barely escaped without more serious damage. The mercury leaking out from amalgams will challenge your body every day, every hour, every second, by using up glutathione and leaving the body vulnerable to other toxins or pathogens, even if you are otherwise healthy.

So you are telling me that "I just dont get it"??????

Well you don't need to take it personally. I'm obviously a bit frustrated in my attempts to tell other people that they should take out their amalgams, but nobody is taking me seriously. It is really frustrating. I was mainly talking about my experience with other people. Sorry for inconvenience.

For myself, I have realized that things went best home if someone yelled it in my ears, although it hurt of course. Probably part of being mercury toxic.

Well I take it personally because I DO get it. I know what these poisons can do to you. My situation is just so bad that I have to consider carefully every step I make - getting any worse isnt an option for me. That would be same as death.

It is very hard to convince other people about the amalgam issue ( example) both my mom and brother are showing signs of mercury poisoning , even as they see the progress that I have made in only 7 months post amalgam ,they are still sceptical , I have even offered to pay to have all the dental work done but still no takers ( you can lead a horse to water...........................) I am 100% sure that amalgams were causing my illness

getting those amalgams removed is key , even as I was having my almalgams replaced I was still sceptical , I would think to myself , how can something so simple( amalgams) cause so many problems

only 7 months ago I was only 50% sure that the amalgams were causing my health problems , but as I see my progess in only 7 month I know for sure that it was the root of all problems ( got to get rid of the scource my friend ) there is no other way , but do it safely and only do what your body can handle

Finn.
Yeah, I understood that clearly. But there is no way you're getting up from that misery unless you remove your amalgams, and the sooner the better. If you die from that, you would die otherwise too. Your situation is very serious, but waiting and doing nothing will not help things, for sure.

In addition, if your glutathione is completely depleted, nothing will likely happen after you remove your amalgams. Getting sick after removal is just a luxury that more healthy people experience. After that you can use DMSA to mop up the mercury, because your body is going to do absolutely nothing to get rid of it. This is my advice, consider it.

Finn: You are doing the right thing. Take your time, read and learn as much as possible before jumping in. Make sure you know what you are letting yourself in for before amalgam removal.

I jumped in and got one amalgam replaced without protection and it really screwed me up big time.

In the end it took me 9 months to get all mine replaced. I had 8 amalgams in all. Removal without protection took me 4 months to recover from. When I say recover I mean recover enough to start getting the rest out, and not recover to my previous self. It took me 1 month to recover from each removal even with full protection in place.

It was a long, difficult & painful time, but it was a necessary evil.

hi Finn, you're doing the wise thing and gathering information so you can do thing to the best of your ability. That is not easy when you're dealing with a neurotoxin and just getting amalgam out is far from all there is. i wish I knew then what I know now.

MOst people are wiser than myself, they take listen and take heed. I never did, I rushed in and got them out and I don't know if that did me much good to be honest, I still wonder if damage may have been done, but I can't be certain of course.

I really did not understand what I was dealing with and even though I had READ not to rush and get amalgams out, I did it anyway with zero protection, accept for 2 amalgams. Hmmm, seemed to get away with it at the time, but who knows what it did to me long term.

But again, I did not have then what I have now and my immunity, though lowered through severe poisoning, I still detoxed. I had healing crisis and I was stronger than I am now and in the end, I was getting well from it all and chelation worked. It was hard because I spent my time making detox a total nightmare due to the fact I'd take anything so long as it moved mercury and then wonder why I'd go insane with symptoms.

So I settled on Andy's and that was the ticket. Not easy, but not total insanity either. You get pretty sick usually no matter how you go about it. Moving this poison around and out, doesn't usually make you feel too hot.

I really hope you can gain encouragement from all this, because the info here is excellent. What better than by people who have been there? I really do recommend the cutler books and protocol, I wish to heck I had known all this then, but that's life sometimes.

Hi Sunshine,
I got my hair analysis back and I'm in acceptable range with mercury!! I had a hair analysis done a year ago and the mercury was off the charts on it. I've made some progress, this makes me soo happy. I have two more fillings to go, I plan to have them removed in march. Alot of esential minerals were defiecent on it. I've added minerals and a good multi vitamin. I have a appt. with a new doctor in march, I plan on having blood work done then to test everything else. NCD was the main thing that I've taken. I've done one parasite cleanse, I'm wondering in what order did you do your cleanses? I've kept up with your progress and it seems that you've done your research. I would appreciate any advice that you have.

Hi Treva.

Those hair tests are real interesting, but I found real hard to understand. I read the Hair Test book by Cutler and that was the only way to really understand what all those bars actually meant. If this one is up and that on is down…..it all means something! Can you post it up here so I can have a look? Or maybe post it on the Yahoo FDC way? Those Yahoo people will be able to decipher it about 1 million times better than me but its always interesting to see these hair tests.

Well done on the parasite cleanse. So many assume they don’t have them because….well because because……”I can’t possibly have PARASITES! They wouldn't dare!” LOL

I did my cleanses all in the wrong order. Its good that I did them, but it would have been better and easier if I had done them in a better order.
I did them in the following order : 9 x liver flushes, 1 kidney cleanse, 1 parasite cleanse, 1 kidney cleanse, 1 bowel cleanse, 1 parasite cleanse. I have just finished the last two, so I am liver flushing this weekend.
Pls note liver flushing is most certainly off the Cutler protocol and frowned upon on Yahoo FDC, but I feel I am strong enough, and experience enough, to have another go. On my 9th flush I was still getting golf ball size gallstones coming out. Liver flushing is frowned upon because it is so heavy duty cleansing and puts your liver under enormous stress. Your liver is most likely already stressed due to multiple mercury problems…..so the added stress of flushing can be a bit much. I did too many liver flushes back-to-back without having a rest, or doing anything else.

Sorry….i digresses as usual…….

You should do the following in this order and not at the same time:
1) bowel cleanse.
2) Kidney cleanse

I am assuming that you have done some research about diet and that yr diet is as healthy as possible? That’s real important.

Do not do a liver flush. You are in the process of amalgam removal, so you will be having fresh exposures to mercury (its unavoidable even with all precautions) of which the liver takes the brunt of the detoxing. Avoid for now.

I only have experience with one bowel and one kidney cleanse, I am sure many other products are as good, but I had excellent results with what I used and I can and do recommend them wholeheartedly. Both are inexpensive.

http://humaworm.com/coloncleanse.html
http://presentmoment.com/product_in...;osCsid=6d22d875bdffec7141123bb9d0ab9138

Both take 1 month and you will feel much better from doing them. you can continue taking them when you are doing the dental work too.

Edit; Ohhhh! When did you do the parasite cleanse? If it was over 3 months ago….then you should do another parasite cleanse. The good news is that you can do that at the same time as the bowel cleanse. I used the humaworm herbs.

So that would then mean you do the following:

1) bowel cleanse + parasite cleanse.
2) Kidney cleanse

The Humaworm Parasite cleanse is a bowel cleanse and a parasite cleanse all in one, so you can just do that.

Good luck and take care

Hey Sunshine,
I don't have a scanner at my home but I'll scan my hair analysis at work. I would like to see what you think about it!! I went to my regular doctor last week for blood work, I showed him my hair analysis. That was all it took, he refused to do my blood work!! He said the hair analysis wasn't FDA approved and got real upset. He asked what made me want to get a hair analysis. I told him that I had been sick and the previous doctors that I had seen had done nothing for me. He said that I would have to pay for the blood work that my insurance wouldn't cover it. I think that I'm defiencent in vitamins as well. I've had problems with my lips for almost three months as well as a feeling of food getting stuck in my throat sometimes. What I've read on it, I could be defiecent in Vit A or B's. I explained this to my doctor, only to leave him more angry!! I found a alternative doctor but I can't get in with him until March. It's very frustrating to go to a doctor for help and for them to turn you away. Anyways, sorry I was venting!!!
I hope you can tell me something from my hair analysis, I'll post it tomorrow. Thank's for all the advice, your very helpful.

Your doctor withdrew tests because of the hairtest you had done? What is this world coming too!
Unbelievable! What a wanker!
I will have a look at yr test, post away……..i’m looking forward to it. I only have experience with my own, so you really should post it up on the Yahoo group as they have much much more experience than me. Are you a member other there?
Anyway….post it up and I’ll have a look <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/reading.gif" alt="" />