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Do you think this is wise? I had 7 large amalgams removed but still have many more. I think I need to get some mercury out of my body before getting more amalgams removed. Any thoughts? My environmental sensitivity seems to be getting worse again. I am scared.

Hi JK98,
I don't know anything about"cilantro",so cannot give any advice about that; but just wondered did you get all 7 removed in the same day?How long ago did you get them replaced and what else are you doing to detox?How many more fillings do you have?

I got the Hal Huggins book &Andrew Cutler book the other day & I was scared too,when I read about some of the
detox products,some of which I've been taking for over a year,with fillings still in.
I got the last few replaced yesterday but was scared too,after the effects of the previous visit had left me sick for 2 months,and even though I wasn't fully detoxed I went ahead to get the others out,my reasoning being that I might not ever feel "well enough "to get the last ones out.
I am aware this could be a dangerous way of thinking...
I will let you know if I made the right decision,feel good so far
only 24 hrs though!
I suppose I have been self-experimenting with various remedies,even when a practioner gave me a specific dosage,I would experiment /reduce if necessary the amount,
I know we are all so unique,at the end of the day we have to figure out what suits each of us.

I am also really environmentally sensitive,I believe that everyone is just some are not aware of it yet!
It's a tricky one to avoid all the products that other people around you are using &exposing you to.
I will look up cilantro &see what I find out.
Meanwhile,try and sweat some mercury etc out, maybe,steam,hot
baths &then rinse off after?I am going to have one now
with some seasalt,

No. You cannot take chelators with amalgams. Cilantro is the worst because it should never be used when mercury blood levels are still high. Algin and Natural Cellular Defense are not real chelators but can help with elimination and are safe to use.

Check this out:

http://mercurytalk.com/wiki/index.p...ile_amalgam_fillings_are_still_installed

Remember this: No chelation before amalgam removal. It can make you much worse.

I still have many more fillings(perhaps over a dozen? I am too depressed about it to count them). The 7 that were removed were huge(perhaps around half the mercury that was in my mouth?). i had them removed in three sessions. as for the environmental sensitivity, sometimes it is much worse than others. When it is very bad if i get just one whif of diesel fumes or cigarrette smoke I might feel horrible for quite a while. This might happen just by walking past someone on the sidewalk who is smoking. I wish smoking would be banned in all public places, even outdoors as well.

No eggs? No garlic or other high suphur foods? I thought these might be helpful to detox from mercury and are needed to build up the immune system. No milk? I don't drink milk, but I do eat plain cultured cottage cheese and plain lowfat yogurt. No caffeine? I need coffee but limit myself to two cups a day. I was using one cup a day for a while. I need the coffee to wake up. 400 IU or more of vitamin E? My body doesn't like that I was getting nosebleeds when I did that.

Cilantro is generally recognized as a food that causes deep mercury stores in the body to be released. These deep stores are tissues that are hard-to-reach using other foods or supplements.

I agree with the previous post in that cilantro should not be used while amalgams are still in place. Also, cilantro should be used in the later, more advanced stages of detox and only then, not by itself, but along with a chelator.

It's an excellent tool for detox but should only be used in the correct context.

Hope this helps.

Everyone here seems to have the right idea. Eating cilantro allows mercury to cross the blood-brain barrier readily. If you have high levels of mercury in your blood the cilantro will cause a net flow of mercury into your brain. If your blood has low mercury levels than the cilantro will cause a net outflow of mercury from the brain/CNS into the blood.

-Colin

Just a reminder; Cilantro is the American word for this common garden herb.

In the UK it is called “Coriander”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

I used it while all my amalgams in and was not aware that it can mobilize mercury , i was using it to detox , probably one of the worst mistakes i have ever made ,i only used it for about a week and felt the worst i had ever felt within a a two week period and lasted for months , why take the chance. I know that you are in a very difficult period right now , you just want to start to detox the mercury , believe me , as soon as you get your last amalgam out your body will start to detox on its own , the upside of what you are going through is with every amalgam you remove your body have less of a mercury burden to deal with . you can use products like algin or even acivated charcoal , these will absorb some of the mercury in the system with out mobilizing the mercury and can use it while having amalgams in

Oh my lord!
I especially ordered organic coriander from my local market and have me taking hoards of it in my soups for the last 3 weeks or so,recommended by a friend as a great aid to mercury detox.I thought it would be harmless to try it.I have 3 plants of it on my windowsill &have been eating the raw leaves every now &then!!!,I thought that "cilantro "was some kind of tablet or food supplement.I would NOT have guessed cilantro was another word for corriander.Yikes
All of these so called beneficial remedies I've been taking have probably been the reason I've been so sick for the last months.
I'm going to order some Algin.I found a local supplier but they said It needed to be recommended by a practitioner first.
I am so broke from the dentist,the supplements etc etc...

As I now have all of the fillings removed
Would it be ok to continue woth the coriander in smaller amounts or/and less frquently than I have been(nearly every
day.Or should I wait untill later?

My way of thinking is if I take lots of charcoal&extra vitamins/minerals,the stirred up mercury will be soaked up and excreted????

That's a tough one. Muscle test yourself for the cilantro if you feel comfortable muscle testing. Your safest bet is to just not use it yet. Clay baths are very good for getting rid of mercury, or you can just apply wet clay to yor skin.

-Colin

Hi Sunflower. Yes, I fell for that dirty American trick too which is why I posted cilantro = coriander. And I had the same reaction as you as I was eating it as part of my health diet ….. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

“Would it be ok to continue with the coriander in smaller amounts or/and less frquently than I have been(nearly every day.Or should I wait untill later?”

That depends, some people do ok with it, lots of others get seriously screwed up with it. Mikey said it was “one of the worst mistakes he ever made.” He also said “why take the chance.”

You have in your hands an excellent chelation protocol from Andy Cutler. Coriander/cilantro is not part of that protocol.

I too say “why take the chance.”

i know very little about Algin except that is also not part of the cutler protocol, but i have not seen problem posts about it.if u do research it, i'd be interested what u find out.

I'd wait for 3-6 months before doing anything, but this depends on how well your body is able to detox on its own after you removed the fillings. If it feels like hell after you removed all your amalgams, just wait, it will probably last a long time. Then after perhaps half a year you can consider beginning to detox yourself. I found alpha lipoic acid to work well for me, it clears away the candida as well as the mercury, but quite gently if you do the dosage right. Cilantro has also antifungal and antibacterial properties, maybe this is why it causes adverse reactions too. You want to avoid using strong antifungals and antibacterials, because they can really mess you up. I got very unpleasant reactions to St. John's Wort too, because it has antifungal, -viral and -bacterial properties too.

I eat cilantro with a few amalgams still in without any problems at all, in fact I like it a lot. I use chlorella too, and DMSA and alpha lipoic acid now and then also.

The only thing I seem to have issues with is coffee and other high caffeine items. Major headache if I overdo those.

Far as I know, coriander does not chelate, only cilantro, the fresh green plant. Coriander refers to the seed of the cilantro plant.

Hi sosick,
when I talked about coriander in the above post I
was referring to the fresh green leaves of the plant.
We call the cilantro plant by the name coriander in Ireland &UK,
as Sunshine informed us earlier.
We definitely call the entire plant coriander over here!
(just a thought maybe it is a native american plant called cilantro,and when it arrived here,many years ago as seeds,it may have been called coriander because that is the name of the seeds!???
Anyway you said you felt ok taking it,even with amalgams.
I will probably lay off it for a while as I'm taking other things now but plan to take it at some stage...
It's tricky to know what is helping &if something is not or if remedies are maybe clashing with each other!

CAFFEINE:
In my opinion caffeine is bad news,it is such a powerful stimulant! Maybe it has it's usefull? purposes...
I have not touched tea or coffee in about 5 years.Maybe I'm allergic to it but it makes me hyperactive and euphoric,and then I crash down later,and I'm not talking one cup,I mean 2or3 sips!
CHOCOLATE,which also contains caffeine:
I went through a phase earlier this year of having 2 or 3 small squares of really dark organic chocolate,95%caocao content,same reaction ,I would be flying around &feel fantastic for about 6 HRS and feel awful the next day.
I then had 2or3 squares every day,for a couple of weeks,and ran myself into exhaustion.
I then tried to wean myself by taking a few of the pure caocao nibs(pieces of raw caocao bean)but was just kidding myself,still taking the stimulant.I went cold turkey then,and no joke the next 3 weeks or so,I was really ill,detoxing from it,apparently it's also high in copper which I also had a problem with...

An odd time I have a craving for it but vow never to go near it again,yes the good quality stuff has minerals in it but I can get them from other foods.
And the withdrawl I went through was severe enough to turn me off permanently!

I guess my advice to you if you love your coffee and you must drink but it gives you a headache,then maybe make sure
you make it weaker or have water soon enough after your coffee...?
I think that caffeinated stuff puts unnecessary pressure on the body, but that's a personal opinion!
Sunflower

Well it actually wasn't coffee last time it something called yerba mate from SA that a friend gave me and I wasn't aware it had so much caffiene but after 3-4 steady days of it sitting on my desk... oy veh. I felt it coming on for two days... I kept drinking he darn stuff..

I don't have to drink coffee, not addicted to it, like it a lot though, I do get a nice headache after 3-4 cups every time. I usually drink green tea or a decaff herbal mix like chai. Sometimes I run out though and don't feel like hiking to the store for a few days... I got two big boxes of green tea last week so i don't go through that again. Stunning migraine.

However, eating cilantro helps my headaches a lot. I have no idea why people have such a fear of using cilantro with a few amalgams, truly my experience has been exactly the opposite. But, I was chelated hard via IV for a few months last spring so that may make a difference, I think they unloaded a lot of other stuff besides mercury too (like lead) with the IV. Cilantro is the closest thing I can find to the clear headed well feeling the DMPS IV's gave me. Then again I thank Jesus a lot too that is quite helpful have no doubt. I am asking and asking God to fix the rest of my teeth I really hate going to the dentist. In the meantime I am just chelating a little bit now because alas, end of season no more fresh cilantro I am stuck with the grocery store variety I have a pot on the porch but it's growing very slowly and a grasshopper seems to have enjoyed munching quite a bit of it too.

You should take something to bind the metals when eating cilantro if you are going to use it to chelate. Chlorella or DMSA, garlic supposedly makes mercury less toxic by raising your glutathione levels etc. I know they all work well together. And eating just a little bit of cilantro, well i did that at first but throughout the summer I was eating tons of it and i felt truly wonderful. Miss it quite a bit the past couple weeks. Alpha lipoic acid with DMSA just a few times a week seems to do the trick these days if my head starts feeling muddy and there isn't any good cilantro around. I have been getting my dose of garlic all week by eating homous instead and salad with raw garlic sprinkled in. I put a whole bunch of new garlic in the ground around my lilies and I have a couple gigantic elephant garlic bulbs in there too, those'll be fun in the spring.

Everything's a matter or experimentation sort of if you're new at this because mercury cannot possibly be the only heavy metal that affects us all. So depending on what else you've got, results may vary. I didn't show any aluminum on my blood tests at all for example and lots of people are quite high in that dept.

I have also been eating feverfew of late to make sure the headaches stay away. The feverfew is very reliable for that.

"I know that you are in a very difficult period right now , you just want to start to detox the mercury , believe me , as soon as you get your last amalgam out your body will start to detox on its own ,"

The problem is that I am too sick to get more amalgams removed. The strange thing about this illness is that for years my main problem was fatigue plus a bit of muscle ache and chemical sensitivity. Now quite often the fatigue is much less, but the chemical sensitivity is at times much worse, I at times have some cognitive problems, and I have infections in my mouth. I just started using a mouth rinse called Prevention that has zinc and peroxide. I think it is helping, but the progress is not rapid. The decrease in my fatigue level has enabled me to lose around 35 pounds(is the decreased fatigue due to weight loss, or is the weight loss due to less fatigue, or perhaps both?). I am now only around 15 pounds overweight.

Hi Colin,
just noticed that I never replied to you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />!
Sorry about that...
I have never tried a clay bath,will definitely give that a try at some stage.Funds are at rock bottom from all the potions and concoctions I'm taking at present.The clay will have to wait in line.
It is wonderful to learn from all of you about the variety of remedies because we are all sure to find something that will help each of us.
Thankyou
Sunflower

No problem, Sunflower. I have had health problems for many years now and suspected mercury was the culprit. Muscle testing showed that I had mercury and clay tested god for me. I did a lot of clay baths and eventually just started rubbing wet clay on my skin. It took me about 5 months to completely remove all of my mercury but I don't feel any better.

Its obvious to me now that mercury isn't and never real was the problem for me. I'm quite convinced the problems is vaccination related, more specifically, I got a stealth virus (simian cytomegalovirus) from the polio vaccine I recieved when I was 18 months old. I use muscle testing a lot for diagnosis and a stealth virus seems to be consistent with the testing.

I am basing my self-diagnosis on several things: My health has slowly sloped down since a young age. I am very sensitive to viruses (colds, flus, I had EBV bad). And I have "adrenal fatigue" that doesn't respond to treatment (viruses can supress the adrenal gland through messing with the pituitary). Sorry if I went overboard on my history.

Last point. Clay removes mercury very good and is very cheap. My personal opionin is that it is probably superior to DMSA. Any kind of clay should help but LL's magnetic clay is good stuff. If you just rub the clay on your skin wet you will never run out.

-Colin

Yeah, I believe adrenal fatigue has a lot to do with the body fighting the parasites, bacterias and viruses. It can be chronic in the sense that your body can't kill off the parasites and viruses, but keeps trying. Or then it can come and go like for those who remove their fillings, and finally improve in the end. In both cases your body is in a very stressed state most of the time, which isn't nice if you ask me.

I agree!

colin, I don't know but i feel your symptoms sound like you are still mercury toxic. Treatment resistant adrenal fatigue, pituary problems, EBV, weak immune system etc.

I think muscle testing can be a fine tool but it's not always accurate in my opinion. There is also some controversy about clay baths.

If you had your amalgams removed properly and you had NO improvement not even a little bit a mercury problem is unlikely in my opinion. If you had some improvement but still feel unwell you could still have some in your system.

I personally would not trust clay baths and muscle testing enough to be sure my body is 100% mercury free.

Hope this didn't offend you. Just trying to help.

No offense at all. You are right to not be 100% trusting of muscle testing, it isn't always right. I had a few amalgams in my baby teeth and they fell out with the teeth, so I didn't have to deal with removal. I also had vaccinations which I assume is where most of my mercury came form. My health problems seemed to be linked to the vaccinations I got when I was young. I am quite confident all of my mercury is gone though.

It is true you never know for sure and I still am just partly guessing but I really feel it is a virus at this point, my ND does too so we're gonna work on that now.

Thanks.
-Colin

Hi all,
Regarding vacinnations.In 2000,I had a meningitis vac.and have not been well since.The few days after vac.I spiralled into symptoms,anxiety,swollen ankles,weakness,dizziness,and became ill for months after &had to take months off college.My health has never been properly recvered since.It varies from day 2day.
2 weeks ago ,I had one of my days were I get suddenly anxious then exhausted &need to lie down.I lay down,kind of waiting to feel better,it always passes, when suddenly I experienced this sharp,jabbing pain shooting into my upper left arm.At first I thought what the hell was that,&then I realised I had felt that before,it was the exact site of the vacination ,which I got October2000.
It was not because I had even been thinking of vac.s that was the last thing on my mind!
Anyway it is possible that with all this chelating/detox,I have been clearing mercury? or/& other stuff from that site on my arm.
I thought this very interesting indeed.

Colin,
you mentioned some strain of cytomegalovirus,my natural practitioner said I also had this,and that it would not clear untill the last few fillings were removed,3tiny ones in particular in the same tooth, with high galvanic currents.
I felt ok during all the filling replacements except these 3,I felt impatient,anxious and on one of the fillings ,for a few minutes this unbearable shooting pain right up into my ear.
This could have been because I took no local anasthetic but dentist said all I should feel is cold water as the fillings were all right on the surface,far from the nerves.
Sunflower.
I had never heard of cytomegalovirus before that,and at first thought it was some kind of made up name for patients with no other diagnosis!

Hi Sosick,
Thanks for the reply &all of that info.I'm a bit tired today and have to get off the computer now,I'll write a bit more next time.
Sunflower

Do you know if the vaccination had mercury in it?

Interesting, sunflower I wouldn't be suprised if your vaccination is at least part of the problem.

Yeah cytomegalovirus is fairly common, at least compared to simian cytomegalovirus. Simian cytomegalovirus is believed to trace back to contaminated batches of the polio vaccine. The polio virus used in the vaccine was grown in live monkey kidneys and some of these monkeys also had simian cytomegalovirus. SCMV is thought to be stealthy in the human body because it has lost any antigens on its surface which our immune system can recognize and label as an invader. So we have a virus but don't have the immune response to get rid of it. Not good.

-Colin

bg123
I don't know.that's why I put a ? after the "mercuy or/& other stuff."
I can't find any info. on meningitis vaccinations.I looked over in the vaccination section on this forum but did not see it listed there.
Mercury or not I had an adverse reaction to it!
Sunflower

Colin,
So the immune system thinks of it as it's own?
I have every intention of getting rid of this cytomegalovirus!How about you?Do you mean you will have SCMV forever?
Do you mind me asking,what remedies/treatments do you take for this?

I believe the body can heal just about anything.
"incurable=curable from within"

Essentially that is what they say. This virus is not recognized as an invader so it isn't attacked. I also have every intention of removing this virus but finding a way to do that shall be a challenge.

As far as treatments go the thing I have been doing most lately is immunics (immunics.org). Although immunics seems like the perfect treatment to me it hasn't made me feel better yet. The basic idea is conciously taking control of your immune system. Immunics holds to the idea that we have 12 bodies:

Celestial
Gravitational
Spiral
Etheric
Astral
Karmic
Mental
Emotional
Physical
Universal mental
Universal emotional
Universal physical

... and that sickness generally begins in the higher bodies. They have a bunch of things you can do including removing immune dysfunction, installing missing function, removing pathologies (including viruses, bacteria, etc). I've been doing it for a while and haven't seen improvement but I have heard of other people being helped by it.

The body can heal just about anything. The secret is how to nudge it in the right direction, or how to ask it nicely to remove the problem <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

-Colin

Colin,
that sounds very interesting, I will have a look.It's amazing how some things just feel right and you can feel openminded & drawn towards some remedies/ideas and others grab no interest.
Thankyou (all 12 bodies) for that,
sunflower