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Feeling worse after shower?
#29070
12/15/07 04:50 PM
12/15/07 04:50 PM
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Do you have this? It happens to me almost every time, after showering I feel more shaky, weaker, more fatigued etc... Cutler says that feeling more tired after shower is a mercury toxicity symptom, I wonder what might be the mechanism behind that....
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29072
12/15/07 08:52 PM
12/15/07 08:52 PM
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When I first started detox I felt this way. It also matters if you have chlorinated water. Hot water AND chlorinated water can affect you because you breathe the chlorinated waters' fumes and your skin absorbs the chlorinated water. Chlorine is a known toxin. You can find cheap shower filters on the internet.
I don't know if it's just me, but also when my adrenals were weaker at the beginning of chelation this was a major issue for me. Now that I am a little stronger I don't seem to be affected by these as much.
Hope this helps.
Gabriella
Gabriella
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29074
12/15/07 09:32 PM
12/15/07 09:32 PM
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okay, let me ask you another question.
When someone has been frying food, do you find the air and the atomosphere very uncomfortable ?
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29076
12/16/07 08:47 AM
12/16/07 08:47 AM
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Gabriella, did you take something for your adrenals?
I don't know if it's just me, but also when my adrenals were weaker at the beginning of chelation this was a major issue for me. Now that I am a little stronger I don't seem to be affected by these as much.
Hope this helps.
Gabriella
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29077
12/16/07 09:57 AM
12/16/07 09:57 AM
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Well, in the Uk, sometimes when I used to walk in a chip shop, it would be very uncomfrotable and it would hit me instantly.
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29082
12/16/07 04:59 PM
12/16/07 04:59 PM
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I woukld get shocks all day long too, the car especially, when i was real sick. Thankfully it stopped, early summer or summer. Haven't noticed it in months. had to be the mercury, I have no idea what else it might have been because the more I chelated the less it happened. It was so noticeable it was even one of the things I mentioned to the doctor at my first visit.
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29085
12/16/07 08:07 PM
12/16/07 08:07 PM
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Finn: Yes, I do take something for my adrenals. It's called, "ADR" by PUR, you can get it online at www.emersonecologics.com. Also, I HIGHLY recommend visiting the site: www.adrenalfatigue.com and reading the book by the same author, Dr. Wilson, called "Adrenal Fatigue the 21st Century Syndrome." He also has adrenal support supplements available and has a very good program you can follow by yourself (don't need a doctor to buy the products or do the therapies he recommends). I also recommend: www.drrind.com. Both sites are excellent in regards to addressing adrenal fatigue. One must make lifestyle changes as well as adding the supplements. As you will see on the websites, in the book, everyone pretty much recommends no sugar (this stresses the adrenals and the thyroid, which are usually both not functioning properly), removing any toxins (including amalgams and chelation) and most important...REST! The website www.adrenalfatigue.com and his book are really, really good at helping one take one step at a time to address adrenal fatigue. It's not an overnight thing...takes time. As with most of us though, it's a combination of things. I also recommend the saliva test, the one that tests your cortisol levels 4 x's during the day. This helped me understand where my adrenals stood. You may need HC or Cortef for a month or two if they are really fatigued. I did it for 4 months, a little long, but I got ill advice, now I know better. Ater a year of therapies am I getting back to normal...still I feel the best when I am resting, chelating on a regular basis and basically following the recommended strategies of Dr. Wilson. Hope this helps Finn. Best to you, Gabriella <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Gabriella
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29086
12/17/07 02:47 AM
12/17/07 02:47 AM
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Re Glancina’s post above <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/twothumbsup.gif" alt="" /> I’ve read those books and read those websites. They are very good indeed. That is very good advice. www.drrind.com is particularly good. A great place to start investigations. I’ve found the temp graph very helpful in seeing whats happening to me and what each product did for my temp. 7-8 weeks i been taking my temp 3 times a day....very informative. I’m following Dr. Wilsons recommendations too. I’m doing all the herbal supports before I get heavy with….HC.
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29088
12/17/07 08:00 AM
12/17/07 08:00 AM
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Gabriella and other, thanks for the tips...
Actually I have that book by Wilson. The problem is, I dont know what the problem really is with my adrenals. You see, my morning cortisol is (blood test) is always very high, last time it was 780 (150-650). And I did the saliva test too, the morning level was low (just below the range) and the others were "normal". (but my sleeping rhythm isnt normal either, when I did the test I used to get up really late so that might have affected the morning result).
I also tried HC for two months and didnt really feel any better. I started from 2,5 mg and upped to 10+5+5 a day, no effect.
I also took the supplements Wilson recommends for many months, not much effect.
So I dont know what is going on. It feels like my cortisol or adrenaline is too high all the time... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
But I know that it is the adrerals that are messed up and its causing all the symptoms, many alternative doctors have agreed. The problem just is I dont know what is the problem exactly, what is low, what is high etc...
Has anyone else had abnormally high cortisol in blood?!
EDIT Oh one more thing, I dont have Cushing's, thats been ruled out by other tests.
Last edited by Finn; 12/17/07 08:20 AM.
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29089
12/17/07 02:58 PM
12/17/07 02:58 PM
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Feeling wost after the shower- get a filter to remove the chlorine. Andy Cutler talks about this. Sensitivity to chlorine strongly suggests that you are deficient in taurine.
I also would use only chemical free soap, shampoo and conditioner. I use Avalon.
constant shocking problem-Oh my, this one used to drive me crazy and whenever I got brave enough to mention it to a dr. they thought I was crazy. In my opinion (because there is nothing on the net that I could find, but based on my personal experience) this is caused from being dehydrated. That is why it gets worst in the winter when the heat is running, but still doesn't go away in the rest of the year. I soon learned to use this as a sign that I needed to drink even yet more water!
Oh, it just occured to me as I was looking over this that taurine has an effect on the electrolyte balance (helps with getting magnesium into the cells) so the two things are probably connected. I use magnesium taurate.
Missy
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29090
12/17/07 04:13 PM
12/17/07 04:13 PM
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Finn: sometimes its a COMBINATION of therapies to heal the adrenals. Do you still have mercury in your system/body? If so, adrenal therapy can help to a point. However, one must remove the burdens: diet, lifestyle and toxin stresses. As Dr. Wilson notes in his book if the adrenals aren't responding, toxins are the problem.
Also, for me it took SEVERAL months, almost a year before my adrenal therapy had a noticeable change. It was a combination of destressing, diet and chelation along with a LOT of prayer.
Gabriella
Gabriella
Step by step, that's how you achieve success.
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29091
12/17/07 05:13 PM
12/17/07 05:13 PM
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Yep I still have 5 fillings. Hmm does Wilson really talk about mercury in his book...? Dont remember, gotta check later...
Btw, do you have any idea if that adr formula product can be used if you happen to have too MUCH cortisol?
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29092
12/17/07 05:41 PM
12/17/07 05:41 PM
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Hmm does Wilson really talk about mercury in his book...? Dont remember, gotta check later...
Btw, do you have any idea if that adr formula product can be used if you happen to have too MUCH cortisol? Yes, page 228 he talks about Body Burdens and if you are not progressing as you should be check for a list of things. One of the things is on page 229-230 "Dental Problems". Adrenal cell extracts (supplements) are discussed beginning on page 209. I would re-read 209-245. I think many of your questions will be answered there. Gabriella
Gabriella
Step by step, that's how you achieve success.
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29093
12/17/07 05:49 PM
12/17/07 05:49 PM
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Finn: There are also different stages of adrenal fatigue when cortisol levels can skyrocket to compensate for other issues. Below is the link to the stages of adrenal fatigue which can help you locate where you are at: http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%203.htmlGabriella
Gabriella
Step by step, that's how you achieve success.
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29095
01/12/08 07:00 PM
01/12/08 07:00 PM
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A hot bath made me feel significantly worth every time. Not immediately but the following two, three days. A shower was not so much bad, so I changed my habit and also shortened the time. I also realised that air pressure change has the same effect. Physical activity has similar affect as well. I came to the conclusion, that all of them mobilize mercury. The good news is that these symptoms have softened recently. (After around a dozen bottles of Algin, much more Chlorella, let alone Whey protein.)
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Re: Feeling worse after shower?
#29096
03/01/08 01:28 AM
03/01/08 01:28 AM
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My knees become red and VERY weak during and after hot showers. I'm not sure how long this has been going on, but it's probably been a while. Has anyone else experienced anything similar with his/her knees?
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