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i am officially homeless now. everyone in my family has so many issues themselves, they can't have empathy or compassion for another. especially a 23 year old like myself who is very sick. they have all abandoned me and none have listened, learned, and no matter how many people i get to talk to them about heavy metals, they don't care. no matter how much testing, doctors, or evidence of my fatigue and mental health my entire life, they still don't care and want me to just be fixed. it's truly unbelievable and i realize for sure that i have absolutely no one.

my mother kicked me out for like the 8th time in three years because she thinks i am lazy and won't fight the illness and take 10 prescription meds like her. she says i am a grown man(she's been saying that since i was like 17) and i am living off of her. all i do is isolate in my room and have been waiting on disability so i can for the first time get what i need to hopefully get beter. one day she'll be supportive and speak as if she believes me and she says, "your way just takes longer rather than using meds to get well." so she knows i have a problem and there is a way to get well but she takes her issues out on me none the less and will randomly and spontaneously take things out on me cussing punching etc and then kick me out. she obviously doesn't care if i have a fulfilling good life with actual good health rather than take meds that don't even work. she's very bitter of her own life and doesn't realize how sick i am and how i have no one.

dad is alcoholic using cocaine and mother is just totally not aware of how to love anyone or her behavior. dad is the same. neither one know how to love. all of my other family are the same so i am totally alone. after all the emotional and physical abuse from both parents, i have no idea how i am still fighting and haven't went ape on the world. but maybe it's supposed to happen this way cuz i am totally different than my family. i don't think like them and my love to them isn't conditional like theirs is to me. i don't think they are cognizant of healthy relationships and just how to be happy in general. but anyways, maybe it is time for me to go out on my own.

my disability hearing is very timely because it is this tuesday after waiting approximately two years. my lawyer says i worked enough to make around 640 bucks a month. i'm wanting to check into low income housing and i've talked to a couple people that had it. one girl had around the same money a month as i would get and paid 200 dollars a month on housing i think. i talked to a friend the other day who has a roommate and they pay like 40 bucks a month a piece for their nice appartment which is for low income people. anyone with experience with this? i am in north carolina.

the most important thing is for me to get well and i don't know if i am gonna have enough money. how much is andies protocal a month? with basic supps, chelation like dmsa and ala, and food? i may not take dmsa and just ala. i'm not sure yet because i don't have fillings and my exposure to copper comes from chocolate etc. there is mercury too i am assuming though from vaccines.

obviously, i can't stay homeless and get well. i have no family. so i have to get a place Lord willing and i just hope it is a decent suitable one i can find. my depression, anxiety, fatigue are horrible and i get suicidal feelings sometimes cuz depression gets so bad. the despair and gloom and doom is profound and was hospitalized for it just this august. after that hospitalization my family was supportive and mom said she would never abandon me. so did dad but already they have screwed me. my family is so stupid they don't realize me being alone isn't good but i have no choice. i don't think being around them is a positive thing either so it's like a no win situation.

i just hope God takes care of me and this is supposed to happen. i know being around my family is no good because basically my parents are really sick and the other family members are just lost for real. none of these people know what family means or love means. i'm scared because i have never been on my own before and having this condition makes it really scary. ideally, i wanna be on my own and going to school and working. having a life and being with my friends. but i am not even close to well enough for that. anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

sorry for such a negative depressing story but it's my reality unfortunately. i hope everyone is making improvements.

shawn

hey shawn I'm really sorry about your family issues. If your mum kicked you out, where are u staying right now?

what are the chances of you actually getting the disablity money?

I can't work myself in my profession, but I got myself an easier job of handing out leaflets, maybe you should find one like that yourself, do you think you'd be up for such kind of job? It doesn't require any mental effort, and I get enough money to afford myself supplements especially dmsa.

As for the ala/dmsa issue I think you could use ala on your own, problem is ala increases copper in your body over time, but I think you can always counter it with zinc supplmementation, better ask andy on the frequent chelation forum (know you belong there as well).

Oh and try doing coffee enemas and candida diet, they helped me imensly in the past, they can help u as well so you have greater chances of being on your own.

and hang in there shawn, sorry for not wiritng more but my brain feels dead now.

Shawn, your town or city, or one nearby should have a homelsss shelter run by a church. I would find one, Christian based, if I had no place else to stay.

Consider offering some kitchen help or something of that nature in exchange for room and board for a while. They may even provide a bit of job counseling/training.

I think it's important to keep in mind when trying to present issues, like you feel you've got, to others, is that most everyone has issues of some sort or another that they have to deal with on a daily basis so yours may not ever take top priority to anyone except yourself.

Sorry to hear about your situation, sounds like your mom and dad are dealing with quite a bit themselves.

Praying for you.

Hi Shawn
I am so sorry that you are going through this. Sounds like you have had a rough go of it with your parents and still going on. It's hard I know no one believes me either. Just when I think everyone is behind me...well not so. This weekend I was told I am not walking enough and working enough, bills are piling up cause I keep buying the supplements. It's so expensive and yes I am seeing some improvement. I want to get better so I CAN work more. I just can't do it right now. I am a trooper till after I have eaten lunch and then I am worthless until about 6 pm. I cook supper and eat and watch a little Tv. If it is a good nite I sleep if not I wonder around in the dark all nite.
It never ends, I believed that they(my family) would see me getting better and know this was the right way for me but in reality I think too much time has passed since they thought I was gona die. They see me getting better and so they increase the work for me,another words they have stopped helping me and I am right back on my own. They don't get it, the stress from a heavy work load just kills me and puts me 2 steps back. My work is tough(I clean apts and houses) used to be easy for me but now puts me in horrible pain if I try too much. I try to limit everything I do and sometimes when I over do it then I can't function for a couple of days.
I think they are trying to push us to be strong but they just hurt us. Society is so caught up in the conventional way of medical treatment. You know they think I am stupid cause I won't go and get that magic pill that will cure me. I am allergic to a lot of things right now and that so called magic pill could be my death sentence. They just don't get it and I believe by that by the time I get better they won't remember what a struggle it was for me. This way takes so long and they will forget.
I have even offered to leave and go stay at my dad's and take some of the burden off of them but they don't want me to leave. Catch 22 damed if you do and damed if you don't. Fun world we all live in. What happened to the days when you took compasion on the people that are sick. I am told all the time I don't look sick well they need a day inside our bodies....one of worst days, you know the whole lagged down feeling,every muscle in your body screaming, oh and lets not forget the can't find your butt from a whole in the ground feeling. Well they would not be able to deal with it. They think I have truly lost it when I can't find my way.....I can't control it,happens when it happens. Pushing me to do more only makes it worse and the downgrading remarks makes the brain fog worse. Confusion from trying to figure out what to do to make they're situation better(when I can't) just makes my head swim.
I pray you get your disibility. Sometimes I feel if I were by myself it would be easier to do all we have to do to detox and get well. No one telling me you are not doing enough of this and that, nobody telling me I will never get any better and that I will never work again. They all believe that but you know what GOD tells me different and so I am not giving up. I have supported every thing they have ever done for many years and now it is my turn...well that is how I feel and so I am not gona stop getting my supplements or my food. I have done without a lot of things over the years so they could have what they all needed. It is my turn to have what I need. It would be different if it was just a new shirt I wanted but it is my life so I say don't let anyone stand in your way.
Money, yes it costs me alot to get the supplements maybe about 250.00 a month give or take. I haven't started andys protocol so I am not sure of cost on that. Sunshine can tell ya he is doing the protocol right now. I am going to give it a go after the first of the year. My food usually runs me about 300.00 a month but that is feeding 4 of us so lot less for 1 person. The housing thing...here in town they have some low income apts but you have to get on their waiting list so it takes some time to move up the list. I live in texas so you might try seeing if they have some like that, don't know. But faster you get on the list the better.
Sorry for all the bitterness, I am usually not like this but they were throwing stones at me this weekend and the result is I am sick today. I feel like <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ithitsthefan.gif" alt="" /> and so I feel hard toward them today. Tomorrow will be a new day! Every one is gone today so the house is mine...yse yes yes!!! I know it is hard to be alone but if there is no negitivity I cope a whole lot better. So I welcome the fact that they are not here. Besides God is always with me and he will figure all of this out for me and for you as well. I believe that without his guidance I would not have found out the amalgams were making me sick. One thing about being this sick is my faith in God has really become very strong and so I know he will fix all of it and I just need to find some patience. Easy to say huh when your family just wants it now.
Well I have griped enough LOL Just wanted you to know you are not alone at all. Hang in there Shawn. Where there is a will there is a way. I will be praying all turns out well for ya!
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Hi Shawn, sorry to hear yr troubles.

Good to see you over on Yahoo FDC asking plenty of questions…..and even a reply from Andy himself no less. Keep on asking, keep on reading. You don’t have to pay for that knowledge.

The following is from page 134 of “Amalgam Illness” :

“If you have a really restricted budget and can’t get a doctor to do anything for you, see if you can do this each day:”

Minimum supplements:-
VIT C – 4 grams, 1 with each meal plus one at bedtime.
Vit E – 400-800 IU
Milk thistle – 1 cap with each meal. (Equivalent 250-750mg silymarin in total)
Flax oil – 1 tbsp (need to keep this in the fridge…smell it to make sure it is not rancid)
Magnesium – take ¼ to ½ tsp Epsom salts with each meal
B-50 or B-100 multiple Vit B supplement
Zinc 50mg – but you have a copper problem, so you should be on 100mg
Molybdenum 250-500 mcg – this stuff is bloody expensive…..i’d say exclude due price
Chromium 200mcg with each meal.

Plus anything else you take specifically.

Shawn, I don't honestly know what to say. And I thought my situation was bad! Wow, you're family has issues and for you to carry this type of sickness, along with almost zero family support and the addition of abuse is just dreadful. Diabolical actually.

I have not been in that kind of situation on the personal family front as such (only one stage in my life, but not as bad as yours), but I do have a sickness benefit here in nz that helps me to pay for rent, and what I require for health. However, even then it's minimal, so it's a struggle.

I hope that someone somewhere will help you find some alternative accommodation away from your family, because you really need to concentrate on YOU. I am most sorry for your parents problems too, and sad to say the kids are the ones who tend to cop the brunt of their parents issues.

So let's pray that this very painful transition may lead to something better for you in the long run. Don't give up on your faith, no matter how tough it gets, it's something you have turned out the way you have and is a testament to yourself and no doubt your faith as well.

Yes, the chelation products are not cheap at all but at this time I would not look too far ahead. THe main thing is that your living arrangements become more stable again and you're able to get some form of disability/income.

You can chelate a little at a time, it does not have to be rigid. So long as it's 3 days on (or longer) and a break inbetween. I would also again seriously look at the diet and basic supplements involved in this, because that is the foundation of your health too. Copper excretion may start to occur if/when your body gets what it needs and the toxic junkfood (sugar) is eliminated and some copper free supplements that are helpful to copper toxicity are taken onboard.

Unless you are geting the more expensive chelator like DMPS or DMSA, you should find ALA isn't "too" bad every now and again because it's just an antioxidant.

Hi Shawn, just another note. I belong to the frequent dose forum and saw that you typed a message and Andy responded to you. Looks like he does not recommend ALA to chelate copper....

I would then have to apologise to you for recommending it, but I seem to have heard some conflicting information, so it's made it quite hard.

I also thought if you "did" have mercury (from past vaccinations etc), that it "might" help you, however doesn't look like it's the recommended thing to do in copper toxicity.

I hope that the proper diet and supplements (zinc and molybdenum with every meal that Andy suggested, and perhaps other helpful supplements recommended earlier for copper excess) might help you. It does seem kind of strange that copper toxicity would be in isolation though. One would wonder if doing chelation for mercury might actually help you anyway?

However, if ALA increases copper absorption, then that sounds unwise. wonder if Andy could advise you on what to do in case mercury is a part of this. What does somebody do who has both these toxicities at once and requires a chelating agent that will not make one worse whilst helping the other.

I wonder if you would respond to a course of DMSA....it might be worth a try. Certainly it does not increase copper and "if" there is any mercury in accessible areas, you may notice something.

I would focus at the candida and perhaps other parasites. I can honestly say that I have not seen any person so far who has only metal problems, but no candida and other pathogens. Candida is known to cause a multitude of mental problems, moodiness, mental laziness and at worst even hallucinations and panic attacks.
Treating your problem with zinc and molybdenum is not going to take you far, even if it is Andy Cutler that suggests it. I have not heard of anyone getting well on such a treatment alone, but you'll have ask Andy about that.

On the other hand I would suggest you try ALA, because it is a multi-purpose agent that bites on many things. A bad reaction to it confirms you have a problem that responds to treatment. I would also try an anti-candida diet for a few weeks and see if you get die-off reactions.

thanks everyone for your concerns and suggestions. i wish i was just dealing with heavy metals but everything is compounded right now. the disability hearing is today so everyone keep your fingers crossed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />. this is like the most important thing cuz if i am not approved, i'm gonna feel like giving up. i've already been waiting for two years.

the family dynamic housing situation isn't fun at all but i'm numb to it now. it's happened so many times. i checked out housing though yesterday and it could take a year waiting so we'll see what happens with that. if i get the disability, it could really be ideal for me having my own place and just working on getting me well without other sick family members taking their problems out on me.

i do have candida for certain because of the pronounced symptoms like itching. also, i am pretty certain i have mercury because of vaccines and not ever being able to excrete heavy metals due to poor metabolism. so i wasn't saying i don't have mercury but that my gut tells me copper is contributing the most. from the hair analysis, book, and other info, my symptoms seem more like copper and my mother had high copper too on her test.

i saw where andy replied to my post but i don't know what to think cuz what he says is conflicting with other info. on this website, http://www.idssports.com/rala.php, at the bottom of the page where it says, "R-ALA as a chelating agent" it talks of ala chelating copper. also, in a book specifically on copper toxicity called, "why am i always so tired," by ann louise gittleman, she says that she uses ALA a lot to help get deeply stored copper out of brain and organs. lol this is when i wish i was an expert.

i guess i'll just have to try it. i have mercury too so maybe it'll help. the ann louise woman has been treating copper for a long time so i would think that she wouldn't be lying in her published book about ALA helping with copper toxicity.

Shawn. You have lots of things going on right now, a millions things to think about, you got different health advice hitting you from left, right and centre and you don’t know who or what to believe.

This is what happens to everyone when the learning starts…..its so confusing, so many new ideas, so many conflicting ideas too…..who to believe????? What do to first????

You have to make you own mind up about that. It takes time for all the info to sink in and make sense.

You can only do one thing a time anyway, so pick one thing to focus on, to learn and understand it. When u understand it, do what you are happy with. All the rest of the stuff, drop it for now and narrow yr focus.

One thing I would say is; don’t mess about with the mercury. Don’t do things that might mess about with mercury. Taking ALA to deal with candida and copper is a recipe for disaster and can only end in tears. Your tears.

If you decide to start chelation, then do it correctly and safely as per cutler protocol.

No offence to the link you quoted about ALA, but it’s from a bodybuilding, muscle building, steroid pumping website. You think you may have mercury poisoning, so you should read and take advice from mercury documents not from the type of links you quoted.

Playing with ALA has the potential to funk you big time. IMHO It is not worth the risk at this stage. IMHO taking ALA is probably the riskiest thing you could do now.

You said “i guess I’ll just have to try it” ?

I can think of 20 different better things to do for candida and copper before playing with fire & taking ALA.

Good luck at the hearing.

Hi shawn, wish you all the best re the disability and housing situation. Let us know how things turn out.

I know it's hard to know how to handle what you have, given it's obviously a multi factoral problem. I think it would be wise to ask someone on frequent dose forum about the possible combination of mercury/copper being involved here and what to do about both at the sametime!

I would definitely take the advice of treating candida, the amount of symptoms this causes is as bad as any mercury, copper list you'll find. In fact, if you treated your candida, you would then know exactly how the metals are affecting you outside of the candida and probably be in a stronger and clearer position to get onto treating that.

Believe me Shawn, without treating yeast, I was so overwhelmed by symptoms, I coudl barely function let alone think of treating other issues. I believe that diet is essential and the supplements andy suggests and others I would not hesitate in taking. You won't know unless you try and it doesn't seem like a huge deal to me to get those two at the very least and take with each meal.

The man knows what he's talking about and some information has been updated, he is learning more and more as well. I would have a lot of trust in him considering there does not seem to be the horrible results from his advice that I see elsewherea and I feel he's very accurate.

If he feels ALA is unwise in copper toxicity, you may need to be very careful with the idea of taking it onboard. I know there is conflicting advice out there and it seems some people with copper can take ALA, others cannot. I've seen that in his own book. Sounds like he's more against it now than he was then...

You can be pretty sure that yeast will be causing many of your symptoms and it maybe very tough for your body to let go of metals if it's too high in yeast and toxic from that and other things at the sametime. If you deal with yeast, you should find your body is stronger and more efficient in dealing with other problems. I would start on that personally and go from there.

my lawyer told me i was approved for disability today. so now it is on to looking for my own place.

what should i do to treat candida? does andy talk about candida in his book? i know about the veggie meat diet. so follow the diet and take vit/min supps for now? what about probiotics and anti-fungals etc?

shawn

HI Shawn, a big congrats on getting the disability! You deserve it and I hope the same for your living arrangements.

I'd start with the diet and forget antifungals for now. Antifungals are too harsh to start with and you will likely get more than enough (die off) from the diet alone. You could detox quite heavily and feel quite ill for a while before improvements.

If you really want to add stuff later, that's up to you, but the diet itself usually brings enough symptoms.

Usually the standard candida diet is simply no sugar, no fruit, no grains, no yeast, no milk or cheese, no honey, no yeast, no high carb vegetables like potatoes, corn, peas/beans and you exist mainly on meats, vegetables, acidophilus yoghurt (plain and sugar free), raw nuts almonds/brazil, seeds, lots of healthy fats like butter, extra virgin olive oil, lard, mercury free fish oil, etc.

Basically the western Price diet, but without the high carbs like grains etc. Some people can handle non gluten grains, but some of us have to give it all up, at least until enough candida is killed off to where these foods can be added again later on.

I used to handle limited fruit and limited non gluten grain, so long as I gave up all sugar and gluten and yeast. But these days I'm much sicker and have to stick to the more rigid diet.

The diet is healthy, no matter what is wrong. It's not just about candida, it's to help heal the body. Candida, if it is overgrown will naturally die off when you starve it of the wrong foods! But you may find it hard at first as you can get severe cravings for sugars etc, as the yeast fights to survive. It's a test of will power and something you need to battle with. Eventually the cravings will subside, but it may take a few weeks.

You can also feel quite sickly as the yeast dies and toxins are expelled from dying yeast, as well as other toxins from your body coming loose from the lack of sugars and other toxic foods, and the addition of healthy foods.

It is worth it and I think it's the first and best basic step.

Andy does indeed talk about candida in his book, but he is not all that "up" on candida, his main thing is metals. He does recommend treating yeast though because it can cause untold misery in mercury or other metal toxic people. Unfortunately he doesn't really mention the candida diet, and that is the biggest part of healing this condition. The rest is just supplementary.

You may find after you completely stop eating sugars and the other wrong foods, that something starts to happen. It may not happen the same day, it may occur days later. I remember getting cravings so bad and headaches and feeling ill, I was a mess. So many toxins came loose, I could hardly stand it. But it was worth every bit of temporary misery. Weeks later, I felt like a different person, though still mercury toxic, I just felt so much happier and healthier.

My depression and anxiety lifted too. If you get this part right? I think you'll be in a much better position to fight the other stuff.

Congrats Shawn, that’s good news.

Wise words from Bex.

Great news shawny! congrats!

Shawn:

Glad to hear you got approved on your claim!

TW

Shawn, there is an alternative to using ALA, if you want to go slower. The combination of C + E + selenium, supports well the generation of the glutathione peroxidase enzyme, which is a powerful free radical scavenger and has also anti-viral properties. Magnesium is also really essential, detoxing candida etc. seems to drain a lot of stuff like magnesium, and a deficiency in magnesium will lead to a really restless and jumpy heart, and muscle stiffness and pain. I had this problem, and 350 mg magnesium per day totally calmed down the heart in a few weeks. On the other hand I didn't find zinc so useful, perhaps for hair regrowth, but for detoxing it does not appear to have a great impact, although it is probably not harmful either. However, when detoxing, your requirement of minerals, vitamins etc. increases to above normal, so you better not leave out anything essential.

But I would still try out ALA in a small dose to probe the situation. You won't probably die from taking 10-20 mg. Only if you have SEVERE depression or other severe mental problems would I recommend to stay away completely from ALA. ALA is still the agent that can give fastest relief. If you just feel spacey from the ALA (10-20 mg), but it goes away within a few hours, you are ready for chelation with ALA in low doses according to the Cutler protocol (10-20 mg per dose). More serious symptoms of course indicates that you are not ready for ALA. Taking care of the candida will solve your copper problem on its own, there is no need to focus on it. I never worried about my copper levels at least. Spaciness is by the way, a symptom of candida, not mercury, this is mentioned on several web sites about candida, some even appear to mix copper toxicity with candida. Candida toxins and metals differ from each other like a day and night, you can't arbitrarily assume that their effects would be even close to similar in my opinion.

Spaciness is a symptom of both. I've experienced it. I've had it when I've been feeding or killing off yeast and I've had it after being in a dental office from further mercury vapor exposure. There are people who have also experienced the dreaded brain fog from moving/removing mercury too.

I doubt even a professed expert could assume to know exactly what problem is causing what symptom. If anybody reads books or looks up on the net on both candida symptoms and mercury, they will see how many symptoms are not only similar, but identical in many cases and overlap. It is very tough to differentiate and even then....we're not inside the body to see exactly what is going on. One would need to treat the candida to see what symptoms are "left over" from mercury. Whch I have done in my life before. Though improved, I was still very much poisoned and again found symptoms overlapping from both.

Such symptoms could be anything like depression, anxiety, loss of motivation, exhaustion/chronic fatigue, sleeping problems, panic attacks, stupor, cold body temperature and the list goes on!

Both conditions can be responsible for these symptoms, anybody who has had both im sure can attest to that. It is simply best to treat them and enjoy any benefits that come from doing so, whether it was candida or metals that was responsible for whatever symptoms.