News you won't see in controlled mainstream media.

I had an appointment last week with the natural medicine doctor,
who said he had a theory that the candida which accompanies mercury/metal poisoning is a natural protective response by the body.
He said that he was aware most people would not agree or accept this as truth.
I like this idea as I believe that the body is always trying 100%it's best to sort things out and I quite like the idea of eating foods in moderation instead of cutting things out so strictly & feeling somewhat miserable because of it.
I do not eat sugar etc and have no intention of heading down that road but I am really easing off on the intensive purposefull killing of the candida ,such as not drinking Pau d'arco every day,not loading up on the garlic,grapefruit seed extract etc like I've been doing and just having some garlic every now & then,
I think garlic is great stuff, I love it.Good for so many reasons.

I feel more positive about this because I have confidence that my body will get rid of all the harmful stuff &replenish the good stuff.
He recommended I start taking the bio-acidophillus which the nutritional therapist had told me to stop back in December because my gut levels measured in balance but he said I still need to maintain those levels...
again more conflicting advice.
aagghh.

To sum it up I feel better while taking the bio acidophillus,
I feel better taking some garlic, maybe 1 every 2 days or so,
BUT feel so awful when trying to kill off the candida...
(Yes, I know it's probably the die off I'm complaining about)

BUT he might really be onto something,lets just say that the body IS producing,encouraging some candida to protect itself in some way?
And we are working hard to kill it off & in the process, using energy that most of us here really need,ending up tired,exhausted(like me) and suffering awful die off symptoms only to find that NO MATTER how impeccable our anti-candida diet is ,the candida is back with a vengeance.

I believe he really is onto something here.

Hi sunflower. I believe this to a certain extent, but not fully. I think in the presence of heavy metals, the body builds up a certain amount of yeast regardless in a possible attempt to bugger itself.

But again, when the immune system is low and poisoned, this certain higher level of normal yeast easily gets out of control and can then take over and become even worse than the original problem. Because of candida, I nearly ended my life more than once, was so close t it becuase I could not take anymore.

Treating candida has saved my life a number of times, with or without amalgams. I was mercury toxic yes, but letting yeast run riot was literally killing me slowly. Apparently it methylates mercury, makes it more toxic. Yeast overloads the gut and liver with it's own toxins, overloads them to where your body cannot handle anything.

With candida, I suffered serious suicidal depression. When I treated it, this improved quite a bit for me and I even had health improvements, even with the amaglams still in. I managed much easier, lost some of the toxic bloat, got more colour in my face, even my hair, nails grew longer, eyes sparkled etc. Yes I was very mercury toxic, but just treating the yeast and improving my health was the wisest move I made.

I think the problems are when people aggressively kill yeast. We know it's normal and natural to have yeast, so trying to get rid of it all just doesn't really work and isn't really wise. I think it's more about allowing the body to get the chance to lower overly excess levels by not feeding the yeast even further with junkfood sugars etc.

The body will still grow more yeast in a metal environment, even if you're not feeding junkfood. But if you add junkfood to the mix (sugar), this already overgrown yeast is a recipe for disaster. If you exclude sugars and stop feeding the monster, the body reduces it to a more tolerable level. Even then it can still be a threat.

Candida also absorbs metals, like any other areas of the body and killing candida aggressively can then release those metals into the system and repoison a person quite severely. Starving excess candida out naturally by slowing reducing it with a healthy sugar free diet, is probably the best and safest way to start. I would not personally take strong antifungals, I think foods can be natural antifungals like garlic, onions etc, so long as you can tolerate them and they don't irritate you.

Coconut oil is another one. I don't think it's necessary to take drug antifungals unless it is a dire situation and there are no other immediate choices. Candida, when it's out of control, can devastate a person's health and if yu are already poisoned? You do not want to pull your body down further by feeding it sugar and other stuff that not only feeds yeast, but lowers immunity as well.

I think personally it's all about building the immune system with healthy foods and if you really feel you need more sweetness? Then limited fruit might be tolerated. However, if you have serious candida? Then fruit maybe as bad as sugar. Just as grain can be. You have to just go by what you can handle.

The things that poisoned me most were sugar and wheat/gluten. They used to throw me into a pit of total and utter despair. Sorry but I don't believe that feeding yeast is the answer, nor do I think it's a lifesaver. I think it maybe a bugger to a certain extent, but it so readily spirals out of control with the least encouragement from our diet. You certainly don't need to encourage it any further than the metals already are.

That's just my experience. Leaving the candida to flourish is putting even more strain on the gut, liver and immunity and in doing that, I was almost bedridden everyday. What a relief to reduce this candida to a bit more tolerable levels. Plus as I said, sugar isn't good for anybody, even the healthy. It is a poison in itself, so how can eating that be good? when there are natural sugars / carbs available to us in fruits and grains and honey? If you can consume them and still be ok? You're lucky. My candida is so bad I can't. I used to be great on them once though, so long as I didn't consume junk sugar or gluten/wheat. The only reason I got this bad was serious virus and other infection. With mercury, I was ok on a limited candida diet.

It is normal to feel worse when reducing some yeast, it releases more toxins when it dies, but it is at least temporary and the long term gain that many get from this is well worth short term discomfort. Also other toxins too can be released because teh body asserts itself and start to detox more rubbish as well. After a few weeks from doing a candida diet, for me at that time, it was like the sun came out. My body thanked me for it.

I've been wondering about this too. If it is helping to protect us from the Hg, then maybe it's helpful right now?

i have also read that candida will consume it wieght in mercury , what would happen to all that mercury if you killed all the candida ? would it be releast back into the system ?

From what I have read, I believe this. Cutler talks about it too somewhere, where the flora in the intestines is altered by the mercury(or vice versa?). The mercury can then be lodged in the candida (fungus/bacteria) and the mercury is not in your organs, which I suppose is a better place for it to be. Some of the things our bodies are forced to do, because of how seriously poisonous the mercury is, hurts. All the various symptoms your body produce can be read (if you know how to read them) and mean something. Dry lips = dehydration. Adema = kidney problems….etc etc

My understanding is our bodies are continually trying to keep us functioning as best possible, everything it does, it does for a reason and that is to keep us as fit and as well as possible. All this trouble we go through is our bodies attempt to get rid of toxins and be balanced.

For me, I will do a parasite cleanse every 3 months to keep my bugs at bay

I agree completely

When I went on the candida diet, I had candida die off symptoms. I had typical dizziness and feeling drunk (from the released alcohols), some headache, exhaustion, sleepiness, nausea and moodiness etc.

However, when I used a strong herbal antifungal, all hell broke loose. I felt as though I had been acutely poisoned. Interestingly, I was right. I had released metals from aggressive yeast killing and I had symptoms that were not so much die off, but acute mercury toxicity (i believe).

I had night sweats so bad I soaked all the sheets. I smelt of metal. I was an absolute mess. I had chills and fever/flushing. I had tremors and severe depression/anxiety. I had to use DMSA chelation to get this stuff back out of me and it worked.

I had read a few times now that killing yeast aggressively with antifungal use in a mercury toxic individual, is not only foolish, but potentially dangerous. Apparently testing was done and found that after antifungal use, there was a marked increase in mercury found in urine!

I can believe that only because of my own experience, so yes it can happen. So even with the candida diet, my body had indeed kept a certain amount of yeast there, probably for some protection. But the diet itself enabled my system to lessen just enough yeast to improve my health and help lift some awful symptoms.

It's a balance. Eating sugar is unwise either way. You're just feeding something that can explode into a very big problem and very quickly.

you can't really ever get rid of all yeasts, and it probably isn't a good idea to try. but, you want a healthy balance, yeasts can get out of control and contribute to allergies, fatigue, sensitivities, etc.

A little bit of of your pau d'arco tea and grapefruit seed extract now and then should do the trick. I stay away from sugar too, mostly. I eat it when it's in processed store bought foods though. My favorite yogurt has sugar in it. And of course the occasion coca cola etc. beer.. wine... pastries.

I don't eat a lot of junk food but every now and then, a couple times a week I admit to even loving pastries.

I am not a easy dieter either. But I try to balance it with fruit and veggies, grow my own etc.

Mostly I use honey to sweeten stuff, i think as far as yeasts are concerned sugar or honey, same thing really in that respect, candida likes honey.

I think when you overdo trying to kill candida you kill a lot of good bacteria too, so.. moderation.

I can always tell when someone has an overblown yeast problem... they'll have a pasty look about them, a waxy look to their complexion, not much color. In those cases they have a lot sensitivites too and should do a full few weeks candida cleanse. And then get back to a normal balance by eating lots of good unadulterated yogurt and fresh fruit and veggies. cottage cheese is also good to eat, good for your stomach.

I totally agree that the candida can "save" us from the mercury by absorbing it and that it will be released when you kill off the yeast in the gut. It seems like a catch 22. You can't get rid of the mercury until your digestive system is healthy enough to eliminate it safely, but killing the candida to improve your digestive health releases the mercury....

Just the diet, along with foods like coconut oil and garlic may be all some people can handle for a while. I may have done it a little to fast because my adrenal symptoms were worse after I did chelation and killed off the yeast. Do I regret it? I might have gone a little slower with the chelation, but I don't really regret it. The candida, the unhealthy gut, and the mercury were contributing to so many other health problems. This whole thing needs to be so individualized. We really need to monitor our symptoms and not go to quickly. Yes, moderation is the key!

chigirl

I'll have to disagree on this. There is nothing nice about candida, they are opportunistic pathogens that take over weakened individuals. They are also not always seen along with metals, but they are always seen in all immunocompromised individuals, e.g. those with AIDS etc. No metals need to be involved, but in immunocompromised individuals, detox failure is also common (lack of glutathione etc.).

pgm. I'm leaning much more to what you're saying, due to my own experience with this horrible organism. It definitely IS an opportunist and can take over. Uses up much needed glutathione that the body is already having drained by mercury and leaves the person in a cycle of ongoing toxicity unable to properly detox.

Candida also caused me, even outside of the mercury, to be suicidal and often bedridden. Treating it, saved my life a number of times. Not treating it was the stupidest thing I ever did. Perhaps for some they can get away with a more relaxed diet than others. I think it depends on how poisoned you are, how immune compromised you are and what else is going on, as to how well your body will naturally keep yeast levels in check. If it cannot do this, it needs help and often alot of it to fight and reduce the overgrowth.

By "save" I really mean preventing the mercury from going into the brain or other organs because it was absorbed by the candida. but yeast is certainly not good. If I really think about it, I guess it is better to be dealing with hormone and adrenal issues, and possibly a "stressed" liver then having candida or mercury.

Bex, sounds like you have really been through a lot and are doing much better. That is so good to hear. There are so many ups and downs with this illness, it takes a strong determination to stick with it, but it really does pay off!

chigirl

Hi Chigirl, I wish I was doing much better. I am actually much worse. But treating candida has in the past been a godsend. During my amalgam days and even post amalgam, the diet was pretty essential for gaining immunity and health benefits.

These days it's different. I have been pretty much ruined by virus and other infection. Taken a huge toll on my immune system and not something I have been able to recover from. Diet only barely helps me function to some degree, but since my last dental visit (not amalgam, I had composites redone with porcelain), the visit and the work pretty much finished me.

I guess I was exposed to toxins from anaesthetic, plus a lot of mercury vapor that is already in the dental office itself (from other people having amalgam placed or even replaced). I get ill everytime I go in. So I was there for hours at a time and I guess I got very poisoned.

I am still trying to recover from that and am not doing well. But hanging in there I guess you could say. I would warn people who are very unwell, toxic, sensitive, to watch out for this. Even andy cutler knows that certain people, when going into a dental office, can (just by being there, even for a mere consultation) take in a lot of mercury vapor and become poisoned by that alone.

I know some who have had to chelate all over again by one dental visit. It can be devastating. I never used to have that problem before the virus, so I guess my immune system is very very vulnerable.

I saw a lot of yeasty looking stuff come out during my last colon cleanse, after the high enema part. Mucky frothy yeasty stuff. I used some chlorella in there and followed that with some bentonite clay in the water. The chlorella really drew a lot of stuff out... I have never seen it recommended for that purpose but it certainly did something very good.

Maybe chlorella kills yeasts and maybe that why I get foggy headed if I eat it. I didn't get foggy headed using it the other way, in fact my head felt remarkably clear all that week. I have to get back to it. Very effective for me.

I used about a tablespoon of chlorella to about 2-3 quarts of water, same with the bentonite.

"Your body is always trying to get well."

Humans have always been coming in contact with mercury, especially though the consumption of seafood. I too have read about Candida and its ability to absorb Mercury. On reading it I automatically realised that Candida is the bodies natural way of escorting mercury out of the digestive system and out of the body.

Otherwise our ancestors would have had a tough time eating fish.

My theory has been that Candida is there for a reason - it would come in extremely handy for people who had a large seafood component to their diet. However, once your seafood diet was completed, then the mercury contamination would start to subside, and the Candida would probably subside and the body would go back into balance.

But what happens when the mercury doesn't subside, as in the case of having mercury amalgams? The body, in all it's wisdom of the natural mercury elimination procedures, does whatever it can to get well. But no matter what, in the case of fillings the mercury is still in the system. My theory is that candida, the bodies natural mercury absorber, goes overboard trying to fight a battle where the rules have changed. It is then the problems of too much candida comes into play...

So the question I have is: does the candida grow in result of mercury entering the intestines, or in anticipation of it? If the candida is taking care of leaching mercury then the removal of the candida would be a bit of an unknown, however if the candida is there in anticipation of mercury (mercury bound up somewhere) then removal of candida MAY be beneficial.

If there was a way to just cut it back, as opposed to complete irradiation, then in that thinking it should be all good.

Also remember that Candida can get into the blood stream. Now, that also makes me wonder if that is also a natural progression for the body in trying to remove mercury.

Don't forget though, having mercury in our fillings is UNNATURAL. Just because the body might be doing what it thinks is right for a "natural case of mercury contamination" doesn't mean it's doing the right thing in this instance.

does anyone know if there is a test to determine your glutathione levels ?

I have been on a crusade for the past 13 days,
I have had such a rough few months.It's now 5 months since last amalgams replaced.I have had a few months were most of my days I was so fatigued and flu like I did not leave the house,I could not.
I decided that ,with my recurrent symptoms,one of which was thrush,I had to tackle candida.
Now it is NOT from a dodgy diet because for about 5 years now I've had no sugar,no artificial stuff all organic,vegetables fruit,gluten and dairy free etc etc...a great diet BUT these
symptoms have just got so out of hand I have gone a few steps further.
I have gone super strict on my diet.
I have completely cut out any fruits and everything with any hint of anything sweet like that.
It is Day 13 and I still feel tired for parts of the day but it lifts after resting for shorter periods,there is a steady and gradual improvement happening!
The underlying irritability has vanished!
Craving for foods are gone.
Instead of snacking on fruit or even occasional dried fruit I am snacking on chopped raw vegetables and seeds and nuts.
I am not sure if I should ideally cut out nuts too,but hey one step at a time.
I am taking the bioacidophillus too ,twice a day and have not yet started with the candida killers supplements (tackling diet first ,nice and slowly) but have increased B5 and Vitamin C,
I read these will help with the toxins released from any dying candida.
I have already gone through a range of uncomfortable and awful die off? symptoms,itchy rash,headache,heavy fatigue,emotional outbursts,anxiety,confusion,dizziness,and spent 2 days in bed feeling really upset &down,by day 10 the sun came out so to speak and I felt like a new woman,I am still sick but this has allowed me some more room and energy for further healing.
I also took 6 days break from the computer and any health books!I started reading a fiction book and watched some funny tv just to focus on something that didn't keep reminding me of being sick.It worked wonders to just switch off when my symptoms were not too distracting.

Ha good work sunflower. Sounds like you have a good plan of action going there. I’m glad you’ve had some success and r feeling better<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/applause.gif" alt="" />

Re nuts: if you soak them for 12 hours in salted water, then bake them in the oven at real low temp, like 50-60 deg’s for 12-24 hours. What this does is neutralises their enzyme inhibitors resulting in a nut that is much more easily digestible.

To put that in English…nuts have stuff in them to stop them growing and to stop them turning into compost. If you soak the nuts, you wake them up, they think its time to start growing. The enzyme inhibitors are neutralised and they start growing I little bit. Now the enzymes inhibitors are gone the nutrients are much more available and its much easier the digest.

As an added bonus they taste better too. They come out all crispy. Yumm.

(cashew nuts only need soaking for 6 hours tops)

I normal soak ‘em overnight and in the morning put them in the oven at low temp for the day. Piss easy, tastes great.

For more top tips check out “Nourishing Traditions” by Sally Fallon.

edit: same applies to seeds

Thanks.sounds delicious I love nuts and seeds so much,don't really want to cut give them up so will try this.
I would give them up if I have to though.
How much seasalt, just a pinch or more?I can see how the water would revive the life in them and
presuming 50-60 degrees is not high enough to destroy any goodness left in them.

I watched "messages from water "have you heard of/seen this?30min doc about
this man who realised that water had it's own pattern like that of a snowflake and he studied millions of samples of water from all over the world.And did studies to show how positive thought/intentions/energies influenced the shape of the water
molecules.It was just amazing.

I think that would be our favourite Dr. Emoto <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I've just bought his book.

salt….i take a lot of salt everyday….so I salt quite heavily….1/3 a teaspoon….whatever….for me with salt…the more the merrier. Great for the adrenals.


Exactly!

Yes, Dr. Emoto. Yeah I have read one of his books. Amazing stuff. God knows if it true or not….but my water cooler looks like this…….LOL

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Seriously…it does.

i did once to the pepsi challenge and i think i could just about tates the difference, but was very subtle....so i could have been wrong. was a fun experiment.

Sunflower...have you heard to the cloud experiment?

LOL