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avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32405
02/25/08 05:14 PM
02/25/08 05:14 PM
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I have a sweet tooth and want to know whats the safest or the best alternative to sugar? i know their is splenda which i hear is good.

or splenda?

Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32406
02/25/08 05:23 PM
02/25/08 05:23 PM
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I think Stevia is the one I heard recommended on a candida forum that I belong to. This forum is very aware of health related issues, so it must be pretty good stuff. Certainly if it was toxic, it wouldn't be near that forum. Everything on there is information for buildling up the immunity and healing.

It's hard to get off sugar when you start off and it can take ages to get the cravings under control. If you really require something sweet to help you through this, stevia seems to be a good option.


Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32407
02/25/08 05:26 PM
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xylitol is the best, the birch variety. stevia is ok. I grew it last year in the garden, never developed a full real taste for it. It is quite sweet but doesn't compare to honey which my favorite. But it's on the shelf for days of honey outages.

splenda is a synthetic, best to avoid synthetic sugars, y'never know..

xylitol actually helps stop tooth decay, kills bacteria in your mouth.... enetrs the bacteria cell wall and destroys it. Neat stuff, a tad expensive if you use a lot, like for baking and stuff. It makes astounding good baked items though, the birch variety that is.

Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32408
02/25/08 05:30 PM
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I can’t handle any sweet fruit, nor any sugar, refined or natural, nor any honey, nor any molasses.

But I can handle “Agave” – tastes like honey….awesome stuff.


http://www.detoxyourworld.com/cgi-b...&PN=agave%2ehtml%23aF0017#aF0017

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Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32409
02/25/08 06:05 PM
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I'm having an awful time staying away from sugar, but I am trying. I am doing better...I am not eating any total "junk", but I don't know if I can ever get completely away from it. I have some stevia, that I need to experiment with more, and see if there's things I can do with it.

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I can't handle any sweet fruit, nor any sugar, refined or natural, nor any honey, nor any molasses.

Sunshine, What exactly does it mean, when you say you cannot handle it? It makes you have symptoms? What kind?


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Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32410
02/25/08 06:22 PM
02/25/08 06:22 PM
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I love junk too. but i try to find good junk. With the exception of coca cola, which i love, I allow myself one or two 8 or 10 oz bottles per week of that... and the other junk, potato chips, corn chips cheddar crackers etc... I always check and make sure there aren't any hydrogenated fats in there or soy. soy at a minimum is ok but don't over do it, don't eat it everyday.

I betcha there are hydrogenated fats in these bagels though. I buy them at the bakery so no label to check, they taste wonderful. I hate beng without junk food it's a shame. salsa and chips ummm... beer... an occasional pizza...

I have a huge need for carbohydrates or I get so skinny. i've always been this way. do not mention the word pastry to me. I gave up donuts years ago though and I have not eaten pork in several years. I do eat lots of yummy natural yogurt. There is sugar in there though.

agave is suppose to be good stuff. if you can eat that you can eat xyltol and stevia. Both of those are natural too.

we go through a lot of xylitol when it's in the house, gets expensive for a sweetner. my daughter especially loves it. It's actually good for you, kills bacteria, inhibits yeasts etc..

one thing I really hate is cake. how I have always hated cake, those thick super sugary icings, eeeuw.

Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32411
02/25/08 07:50 PM
02/25/08 07:50 PM
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i use stevia, agave and xylitol, xylitol tastes just like sugar but so expensive. agave is nice on pancakes and porridge, its just like golden syrup to me and very easy to buy. Birch xylitol is better than corn but harder to get here in the UK.
Stevia is probably the healthiest but it doesnt taste like sugar more like liquorice, its very economical, i use this mostly, i have a terrible sweet tooth.

Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32412
02/25/08 08:59 PM
02/25/08 08:59 PM
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Stay away from Splenda...it has really bad chemicals in it. Everything I have read says that xylitol is the best choice but that stevia is okay.

Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32413
02/26/08 02:41 AM
02/26/08 02:41 AM
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I have learned to no longer desire foods that are sweet, so I don't need natural or artificial sweeteners. The sweetest things I usually eat are carrots or peas. One could start using cinnamon to help food taste sweeter. Cinnamon is an antifungal that is loaded with minerals. Imo it also tastes great. Here is the nutritional breakdown for cinnamon.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=YT-1006

Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32414
02/26/08 08:33 AM
02/26/08 08:33 AM
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I can't handle any sweet fruit, nor any sugar, refined or natural, nor any honey, nor any molasses.

it means if I eat any I get digestive problems; bloating, heartburn(acid refleux), constipation, dehydration…the more I eat the longer the pain. I tried some honey 3 weeks ago. Was 1 tsp …I had digestive problems for 5-6 days.

This is why I am so strict on my diet. The honey was a controlled experiment to see if I could handle any….. I could not.

I love Cinnamon. In fact I like it so much I supplement it everyday. Yummy. Most of my cooking has at least a sprinkle


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32415
02/26/08 12:14 PM
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Sorry, the link I included in the last post was done in error, and this website won't let me correct the post. Here is the correct link for the nutritional breakdown of cinnamon.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c202u.html


Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32416
02/26/08 12:58 PM
02/26/08 12:58 PM
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I have perfected my sugar free chocolate. I only use agave syrup for sweetening.

So here is the chocolate - truffles

handful of cacao nibs ground
maca powder
carob powder
cashew nuts ground
agave syrup
goji berries halved
coconut oil
naughty I know but a drop of Cointreau - it makes a big difference and the small amount does not affect me though you can leave it out

Make small balls and roll in dessicated coconut and carob powder then pop in freezer.

Oh boy!



Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32417
02/26/08 01:18 PM
02/26/08 01:18 PM
Sunshine P  Offline
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

they look great. wow...i can eat all those ingredients too.....

do you just mix it all up? in fact can u give me the recipe?


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32418
02/26/08 01:24 PM
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Sunshine

Yes just mix it up. I do not measure the ingredients just guess then adjust to taste. I only use a little maca powder though - a couple of teaspoons and about the same carob powder as cacao.

Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32419
02/26/08 01:31 PM
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That’s my kinda recipe…guess and chuck it all together <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Wow, me taste buds r tanging….only thing I don’t have is cacao nibs…… but I know where to get them <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32420
02/28/08 08:00 AM
02/28/08 08:00 AM
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Oh boy!

Mati. I tried those sugar free chocolate truffles last night. My 7 year old helped me. Only took 10 mins to make.

Oh boy!

Thank you very much.

Oh boy they taste great. Wow! One of the nicest treats I’ve had in the last 12 months. And no digestive troubles today either!

I had to hide them away from myself; I nearly eat the lot there and then. My daughter loved them too which is cool. Its good to get her eating some of my food.

I think next time I will add a little salt and maybe try a sprinkle of nutmeg. Cinnamon would work too.

Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32421
02/28/08 09:50 AM
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Great! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />

Those are good suggestions. I will try them. I know what you mean about eating them all. I only dare make a few
or else oops they're all gone. Did you put them in the freezer?
It makes a difference I think. Good nutrition for the kiddies.

Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32422
02/28/08 01:06 PM
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Yeah, as per instructions I put them in the freezer….they came out just prefect. I am looking forward to munching some when I get home tonight <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/twothumbsup.gif" alt="" />


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32423
03/04/08 04:19 PM
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Mati, I made a second batch. This time with a little salt and some vanilla pod seeds…..yes….works very well indeed.

Do need to be careful not to overindulge <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32424
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To heck with sensible <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insertevillaughhere.gif" alt="" />

I made some two days ago and put a drop of dark rum in and coated them in cacao powder - best yet!

I forgot to put some salt in but will remember next time. Vanilla sounds good. These are toooo nice!

Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32425
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mati,that is a great recipe, im going to try it.
i made some of my own
agave nectar
vanilla
natural lemon flavour
gogi berries
coconut oil
carob powder
cacoa nibs
cacoa powder.
i just ordered the cacoa butter to make the real thing but must say using coconut oil is great and my skin looks like im 21 again after eating all the chocolate.
il try the rum, what a good idea. i took some chocs into work and everyone said how great they tasted.

Re: avoiding sugar to avoid amalgams...is stevia any good? best alternative? #32426
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hey Dawn

That sounds good. What is the natural lemon? I think the cashews are good in it.It gives you more protein also. I did think about getting the cacao
butter but it is a great way to get some coconut oil down. Wish I could look 21 after eating chocolate <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ilovecandy.gif" alt="" />

Mati's #32427
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Some of mine are coated in coconut flakes, some in carob powder. This time I went in big with the maca powder too…that stuff is great for my libido!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

These things taste amazing…..do we have a name for them yet?

Mati’s truffles?

Mati’s Amazing Truffles?

Mati’s Amazing Sugar free truffles?

Mati’s Amazing Truffles Incredible Sensations?

Yes….thats perfect

Mati’s Amazing Truffles Incredible Sensations

Or [color:"red"] Mati’s [/color] for short <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
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Great name <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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that stuff is great for my libido!!!!!

I'm fortunately too sick to be bothered, being single <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/zzz.gif" alt="" />


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