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Hello everybody:

Do you buy bottled water, or have you found a better way like a filtration system? What company makes it?

I was going to post specifically on the "Purchasing a Water Purifier" thread, but this is more on drinking water, and I thought more people would see it here. That thread on buying a water purifier mentions Culligan.com as a whole house system, and I recently got a flyer from Aquasana stating it is purer than bottled water, guaranteed. And it cost 1/10th of bottled, and was rated a Best Buy by Consumer's Digest. Do you think this is true?

I have been buying bottled water for a long time, and was wondering if it could be done cheaper and better at home. I have a shower filter from Sprite, and a tap filter, but I use it just for cooking - I don't think it is that great, but better than nothing.

Thanks!

TW

i used bottled water for a while, then I decided that the plastic taste of the bottled water was not a good thing, and that tap water would probably be healthier than the bottled water.. Years before that I tried a water filter, but mold and/or bacteria started growing in it. The water quality in this area is probably quite good, although the water might pick up some lead from the pipes. Some are also concerned about chlorine and flouride in the water. One thing people should never do is drink warm or hot water from the tap, or use it for cooking. One should also let the cold water run for a while before using it for drinking or cooking.

Web page about brass faucets with lead.

http://www.mwra.state.ma.us/04water/html/Lead_Faucets.htm

I have bought bottled water for a long time. I just recently, finally got a filter for my kitchen sink tap. I wanted to long before, but I either forgot, or couldn't afford it at the time. I still drink bottled for the most part, but use the filter sink water for cooking, etc. We have terrible water. We live in a small town and have a water tower. It is full of chlorine, and nobody else much notices this but me. I have been allergic to chlorine for a long, long time. Maybe it has something to do with the mercury, I don't know, but I am sure it could. I know I have been very over sensitive to chemicals, since I've been mercury toxic. On very hot days, it almost smells like straight chlorine coming out of the faucets.I know this is not good for me. I need a shower filter badly, but haven't got that far yet. I am doing the best I can, with changing the things in my life that are making me more toxic, but I can only do a little at a time. Eventually I will get there.

I met someone in a neighboring town, when I was buying my water filter, and she said their water is so bad, that they have the Culligan plan, and that they come out and put filters under all their sinks, and I guess they pay a monthly fee for this. They STILL have a tap filter on their kitchen sink for the drinking water, even WITH the Culligan that they have.

I never drink tap water. Only drink bottled spring water now. I used to drink distilled water, but after much reading i changed to spring water. i get it delivered to my house. i have a water cooler at home which makes for an easy life <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sweats.gif" alt="" />

This is the one I have got

http://www.healthy-house.co.uk/products/plastic_undersink_water_filter.php

I was fed up with the expense of bottled water. Mine takes fluoride out too.

I'm very picky on the water I drink as any chemicals or bacteria in the water and I get an immediate reaction. Most bottle water has some fort of chemicals or bacteria or they use "ozonation". Ozonation is an excellent sterilizer and cleanser but the only problem is that it kills all the good bacteria in your intestines also.

Carbon filters are good for removing chlorine but as was mentioned they accumulate bacteria and most if not all contain copper and other metal and/or metal compounds.

mommy, I'm very allergic to chlorine also found tremendous relief with a simple shower filter bought from Bed Bath and Beyond for $24.99
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=13724199 They say that your body absorbs a tremendous amount of chlorine in a shower so when you do get a filter on your shower you will notice a lot of difference.

Supposedly distilled water is the purest water but there are negatives associated also. Sunshine, in your reading what was it that made your decide not to drink distilled water any longer?

The optimum solutions are either reverse osmosis system or ones that use multiple technologies to fully purify all the water in the house. Unfortunately good systems run around $5000 for whole house systems. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

After a LOT of reading about water, spring water is the gold standard for drinking water so I will continue drinking that.

I put quartz crystals in the bottom of my water cooler to re-energise the water. I can taste the difference.

However I still shower and bath in the tap water and a water filter is on the to-do list.

Q: On a scale of 1-10 how simple and easy is yr water filter to install?

Q: why did you go for that water filter?

James….distilled water. Ummm….i read a real lot about water and explaining it is difficult because I don’t fully understand it myself, certainly all this talk of energy and life in water is beyond the twilight zone to my mind. I will try.
Distilled water is water that has had everything removed from it. All the minerals are gone. The water is lifeless. The structure (life force) of the water has been smashed away by this removal process. Distilled water is not a natural form of water and your body is not used to hydrating itself with this de-mineralised water. When the water goes into the body it ……(ummmm?)…..sucks up minerals to get it back to its natural state. When you are very sick this can be a good thing….distilled water goes in sucks up some crap and off it goes. But drinking distilled water for extended periods is not a good idea. You body is 70pct water, blood is 90pct water…so the quality of the water you drink is vital to your well being…..most of you is made of water after all.

As I said I don’t understand all this weirdness, I work in the city, but read some books & I bought some quartz crystals put them in the bottom of my water cooler to re-energise the water. I did the Pepsi challenge and the water with the crystals tasted better. That’s good enough for me.

If this has wet (LOL) your appetite to learn more about water I can recommend some cool books if you wish, I learned a massive amount about something very important from reading them. Time and money well spent IMHO.

I got a pic somewhere of the crystals…I will look it out.

I feel like freak posting posts like my last post. No way would I, could I, believe there could be such differences/life/energy in water. I promise you I used to be a normal ignorant person and I used to sneer at people talking about life forces, energies and all that cobblers…….what have I become?

[Edit: do not answer that!]

Sunshine, 1 being extremely dificult and 10 being easy I'd rate that shower filter a 9 for installation. All you do is screw off your shower head, screw the shower head onto the filter unit and screw the filter unit onto the shower pipe. Takes about 5 minutes max.

One suggestion I'd recommend is to find some teflon tape and put it over the threads on the shower pipe. That way when you screw on the shower filter it won't leak at all.

I opted for this filter 'cause it had a carbon filter which I knew worked great for removing chlorine which was my main goal, because it was sold by a very good company and not insignificantly because $25.00 is a great price. (ones I've used in the past were $50+)

Money well spent. The filter works very well at removing chlorine and an excellent benefit is that your skin and hair are softer, shinier, and have retain more natural oils. Quite frankly it was one of the best $25 I've spent.

If you work in an area where there are other major problems that you want to remove besides chlorine then this filter may not be for you.

Was interested to hear what you read about distilled water. I've read some glowing accounts about distilled water by individuals who were health practitioner types and then I've read similar to what you mentiioned about what happens to the water and what it does to the body when distilled. Think I'll stay away from it for the time being.

What I would probably like to do at this time is get an "under the counter" unit that is either reverse osmos or one that has multiple filtrations (carbon filter, sediment filtration, remove metals and just as importantly an ultraviolet system that kills bacteria). Haven't found the one I want yet but there is probably a solution around $300.00 that can be installed into the water line.

The bottled water costs me nearly $2.00 per bottle $60/month and just as much as the cost I'm getting weary of hauling them from the store.

I'm really glad this topic has come up. I was just about to start a new thread on this myself. I've been thinking of getting an RO system which has a remineralisation stage, however the minerals appear to be just calcium. You can also get drops which you add to your water that contain trace minerals for eg: http://www.vitality4lifeshop.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=244

I'm not sure if this would be enough to compensate for the minerals that are pulled out of the water?

Sunshine, I'd be very interested in reading up more on this. Could you please provide the names of the books you mentioned?

Cheers,
Cara

Hi Cara

Two books to start you off, both about water and salt, both completely different.

“Water and salt, the essence of life” by Dr. Hendel and peter Ferreira

and

“Water and salt, your healers from within” by Dr. Batmanghelidj

Both books are very famous, came highly recommended to me and I concur they are powerful books.

Which is read first? Depends how much alternative health knowledge you already have? How far you have travelled on the road to recovery? If you just starting out go for Dr.Batman’s book. This was one of the first health book I read….blew my mind really….i have big time benefited from that one.

If you already know some about alt health then maybe “The essence of life” – some parts where completely new to me….this also was even more of a mind blowing book, truly inspiring stuff. If you want to learn about which water is best and why….then start here.

Whichever you read, you will be amazed. I think “The essence of life” is what you should start with

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Water-Salt-...ks&qid=1204233479&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Water-Salt-...ks&qid=1204233511&sr=1-1

James…thanks I may sort one of them filters for myself. if you read “Water and salt, the essence of life” by Dr. Hendel / Ferreira you would change to spring water rather than filtered tap water.
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Sunshine, I've tried various spring waters and they haven't seemed to work for me. The water is probably great but from what I've read there is very often bacteria that grows in the bottles of many of these bottled water products. I think that is what seems to bother me.

For whatever reason this water that I've found called "Springtime" artesian water seems to work.

Btw, have you read up or tried the units that "alkalize" the water? I'm sure you've read all the glowing things about how an alkaline body has no disease growing in it, etc.

I've tried to alkalize but my body has been fight it. Hoping that with the mercuries removed and other things I've done that I'll be able to start alkalizing.

I bought a reverse osmosis system at at a local harware store and am very satified with the sytem , and quality of the water , I think that taste is better than bottled water , it will make about 3 gallons of water per day

mikey, how much was the system?

That's a nice shower filter, I'm going to have to see about getting one of those.

I am worried about the plastic leaching into the water. Glass bottled water is so expensive.

Alkalise the body: Yeah I’ve done all that. Good to know about that stuff, its important. its tricky at first to get your head around it, but its like riding a bike once you know how.

How to alkalise yr body …………. eat alkaline food, exclusively. Don’t eat acidic foods. Drink lots of freshly squeezed juices. Fairly simple really.

Only way I have changed the PH of my water was to add hydrogen peroxide, but I can’t be arsed anymore…too much trouble. My diet is completely free from processed food now anyway and I minimise acid food and maximise alkaline food as much as possible. Once I understood about all this stuff I don’t need to think about it anymore….i know what is healthy to eat…so I eat it. for example; quinoa is alkaline, rice is acidic…so I eat a lot more quinoa now.

If you want to alkalise yourself I would suggest a vegetable juice fast. Min 3 days, if you managed 7 you massively will feel the difference. It is a challenge……

As ever, I can recommend some books if u want.

We drink filtered water (just a plain ole carbon kind), but have not done much research into it. We originally put a whole-house filter (again, sand/carbon type) on when we moved into this new house. The water here is VERY soft naturally, but they chlorinate it, sometimes heavily. (Luckily, though, they do not flouridate). We loved this filter UNTIL, we started noticing the green/blue build up in the tub and shower floor. Started looking into that. Apparently, the purer the water, the harder it can be on pipes (some say this is a myth, but when we turned that filter off, the copper build up stopped.) I really think excess copper is playing a role in my health as well, because my symptoms escalated when we moved into this house, and come to think of it, they improved some when we turned that blasted filter off.

See, I feel danged if I do, danged if I don't here. Copper pipes -- well, copper and sometimes, lead. PVC -- BPA, and possibly plasticizing metals, the pond -- parasites, etc. There seems to be very few perfect water sources.

Sunshine, yes I'd appreciate the book recommendations on aklalization. A 3 day vegetable juice fast would be very beneficial, I'm sure.

How you ever tried the Master Cleanse?

Manonash, here's my recommendation to you regarding the copper and lead in your pipes.
http://www.roaringlionpublishing.co...roduct_Code=MQGSH&Category_Code=

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PH-Miracle-...ks&qid=1204300072&sr=8-1

That’s very good place to start reading. Also has a great veg juice fast in there. I managed 7 days…..it is most definitely a challenge;-) good luck.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Juice-Fasti...s&qid=1204300441&sr=1-13

This was good too, but its about juice fasting and detoxing and doesn’t go into any detail about PH values. If u want to learn about ph values….then other book is best. If u want to get low down and heavy into veg juice fasting…..this book is cool.

Nope, never done a master cleanse. I’m too underweight for that. Even a veg juice fast was a bit dodgy considering how underweight I was, last thing I needed was to lose more weight….. but I was desperate at the time, nothing else was working, so I tried a veg juice fast. I did lose 3-4 kg over 1 week but it was worth it. That together with some other stuff I did simultaneously was when I started getting better.

Sunshine, thanks for the links! I will be ordering the Juice Fasting book from Amazon here in the states.

Have you ever used "saltwater flushes"? Found out about those while doing the Master Cleanse. Much preferred over enemas, colonics or herbs. Very effective also as when I did the Master Cleanse after a couple days I had stuff that looked like black tar coming out of my backside. Then a couple days later it turned dark brown then a yellow color. They say if you stay on the cleanse long enough it finally comes out clear.

http://www.ionizers.org/alkaline-water.html
I just recently got the orion ionizer, best investment ill ever make. Also got an aquasana shower filter. Wish i would have gotten these sooner.

Yes, I’ve done some salt water flushes. Smelly results really.

I did read up on them, but apparently they should only be used on master cleanses….which I haven’t done…..but I’m not the expert really. Pretty effective way to flush the system out quickly though. Epsom salt flushes have a similar effect too. Good to know just in case i get a blockage.

Enjoy the book.

Good idea to get a pic, now we will not confuse the two James’s. Had a tough day? LOL

hi james : I paid about 180.00 dollars for it , I thought it was high at the time , but when I compared the price of bottled water over 1 year period , the cost of the RO system was about half the cost ,plus I know where the water comes from and the quality of it , it claims to filter out 98% of all contaminants including heavy metals

me too, I have been drinking ONLY bottled water for about 4 years now.I drink a variety of different ones,because they list minerals in varying amounts...
The tap water here is fluoridated and I get stomach cramps very quickly if I drink any.It's a challenge to avoid it completely ,I shower &bathe in the fluoridated water and brush my teeth with it too..I use the bottled water if I need to cook anything like rice,etc.
I intend to get a top quality filter at some stage.I don't know how long I'll be living here though...

i drink bottled water, i will one day soon get a reverse osmosis water filter systerm when i can afford it. i read recently it doesnt get rid of fluride which is my main concern.

I drink bottled water too. I wish I could afford the reverse osmosis system but no money at this point. We live in the country in west texas and have well water but they do so much oil drilling around here I am afraid to drink it. I try to get spring water when I can. money is just very tight right now.

Hello all:

Thank-you for the posts on this - as usual you guys have some great ideas. I just ordered Dr. "Batmans" book on Water and Salt on Amazon. I can see argument of using spring water, but like, I think James said, I wonder about the quality of a lot of spring waters.

In the meantime, my new Dr. is recommending and is a distributor for Nikken - www.nikken.com/culik Anyone hear anything about them? I am thinking about trying a couple things...

TW

Update on water: I've found a great, inexpensive source of water. Most of you should be able to have the same access.

The local Publix and Kroger stores both have water filtration systems in their stores that filter the water right there. Publix charges .30/gallon, Kroger .29. Both systems filter the water twice through carbon filters (carbon filters remove chlorine, other chemicals and make the water taste good), reverse osmosis (removes fluoride, sediment, and much of the real nasty stuff), and then through ultraviolet light twice (kills bacteria).

This type filtration is exactly what we need to have healthy, pure water. Carbon filter, reverse osmosis and ultraviolet light make water about 98% pure.

Only way this water can be contaminated is by the bottle you put it in. I put a couple drops of dish detergent I get at the health store and rinse the bottle out with tap water I boil. When too lazy to boil the water has chlorine in it but in reality after letting it dry dry upside down there's probably miniscule trace amounts.

Even if you don't have Kroger or Publix in your area there's probably other stores that have these type of filtration systems onsite. If any of you want me to get the phone # off the filtration system so you can call to find a unit in your area let me know and I'll get the phone #.

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