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Re: Some questions about supplements.
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03/14/08 05:37 PM
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Hi Turmoiler,
Yes, omega 3 fish oils are perfectly safe, so long as you get a certified brand. The best I've heard yet is "blue Ice" brand. This is top stuff apparently! I use Nordic Naturals fish oil, and I find that ok. Cod liver oil is a great one to have, because it also has vitamin A and D naturally, plus some omega 3. But again, make sure you get a mercury free brand. I think blue ice if you can get it, will be the safest bet. I am not sure on all brands, because sometimes it's marginal. Get the smallest dose bottles of any of these things so you can try it out.
Actually, I've found that taking vitamin like vitamin C, E and selenium and zinc all seem to work together! All of them are in foods anyway, but because of mercury, we are often depleted badly of antioxidants and it's a good idea to supplement them, perhaps in higher doses than the ordinary healthy person because we are in such need. Apparently they all work together! Complement eachother and I think this is true. Iodine is another one you may want to look into. I was surprised at how much mercury blocks this! And how necessary it is. That's why in mercury you find so many people suffering thyroid issues too. The action of iodine is often blocked. It also can precipitate some detox though. In using it myself, I felt metals starting to move around and felt the symptoms strongly too. I've read a bit about it and though Andy Cutler does not believe it's a chelating agent, I believe that it displaces mercury and I think a certain amount of detox does occur. Selenium the same I feel. I think they are necessary elements because mercury depletes them all so badly, including magnesium and essential fatty acids.
I think glutamine is fine. I used it in my multi and it's just fine. No problems. The ones you may need to watch out for are the ones like direct glutathione, methionine and cysteine! These can cause too much mercury mobilisation symptoms and in some cases, in high doses, it's been quite devastating for some people. For example, I cannot handle garlic at all. I used to though, but then I couldn't. Sometimes in mercury, your tolerances change and sometimes amalgam removal can do that.
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Re: Some questions about supplements.
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03/16/08 06:13 PM
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Hi there, Iodine is an essential element normally contained in seafood (seaweed etc and to a certain extent foods if the soil happens to contain adequate amounts). Dairy food too, IF the cattle are being exposed to enough iodine. However, unfortunately this essential nutrient is mostly lacking in our soils. The asians get a lot of iodine through their high intake of seafood, seaweed. And other areas do too due to adequate iodine in soil. Unfortunately the western world isn't so hot on the iodine front. Unless of course they are consuming iodized table salt. They added iodine to table salt because the lack of iodine was showing up as a swelling of the throat (Goiter). The addition of iodine to salt appears to have been highly effective against goiter. However, this does not mean a person's intake of iodine is necessary adequate for their needs, particularly if they are exposed/toxic with mercury. mercury has an affinity for the thyroid and other areas and blocks the function of iodine and displaces it. This is why it is a good idea to supplement the elements mercury likes to compete with and displace and minerals like magnesium and zinc and selenium are some more that are wise to supplement with. Unfortunately, tablet salt has other undesirables like anti-caking agents, bleaching, aluminium, and has many of the natural occuring minerals removed apparently, so though the benefit to using it due to iodine maybe lessened due to the other undesirables. So perhaps the better way to get more iodine is to use a good healthy salt alternative like celtic sea salt with 84 naturally occuring minerals which have not been removed and then supplement extra iodine yourself with an iodine containing supplement like kelp (make sure it's a brand certifying tested and free of contaminants), or lugol's iodine, iodol, etc. Whatever works best for you. So there are certainly ways to supplement it and make sure you get enough eachday. It is also wise to start iodine slowly and build up to tolerance, because you can get quite dramatic detox symptoms if starting a bit too high too soon for you personally. Depends how many toxins you're storing and how well your body's elimination pathways are functioning. I now consider this nutrient absolutely essential and I don't know WHY I never saw the truth about it before. Doses vary for each person, but there is a limit to where you can get excessive iodine too. So it's wise to stick to an amount that is generally accepted as recommended, before raising it a bit further to gain more therapeutic effects. Sea salt does NOT contain enough iodine for daily needs. Please believe me, I've been there and I gave up my iodised table salt because I thought I was doing the healthy thing and substituted with redmonds real salt, which IS a healthy salt. BUT, the problem is, I did not recognise the requirement for iodine and the loss of the iodine I had been getting from iodised table salt was enough to make matters much worse over time without me being away of what was happening. I believe this then caused other minerals in my body to decline as well, because it tends to cause a dominoe effect. So my blood tests were pretty atrocious this time around. Low thyroid function and severely low on iodine, magnesium and zinc. So much for my sea salt! And the irony of this is, lack of iodine can wind up causing all kinds of problems in the body that no amount of sea salt additions were going to help! Supplementing with a multi which contained iodine was helpful to me, as were the additions of selenium, zinc, magnesium, vitamin E etc. But I felt I needed a bit extra and used lugol's iodine. I have a highly diluted form of lugol's though, so I only get about 250 mcg a drop. However, when I took 4 drops of it, per my doctor's advice. My detox symptoms went through the roof and I had to stop using it until symptoms calmed down. Now i have to watch it and just take a drop or two when I can handle it. The dose is still pretty small considering what other people might use, but my body cannot cope with too much right now, as I am too toxic and it just forces me to excrete more toxins/metals than I can handle. Iodine seems to be effective against toxins of all kinds, pathogens/infections, metals (aluminium, mercury, lead, etc). I have no doubts it causes a detox of these things, I've felt it and experienced it. So yes it does occur. It also provides more protection against infection too and any toxic exposure. Not just an aid to rid you of them, but a preventative measure to protect you, so that they'll be enough iodine in you that should be there, so that other toxins cannot sit in the areas where iodine should be. Please click on these two links and read the articles. http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Liodine.htm http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Liodine2.htmPlus this one too - http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1594/is_5_12/ai_77749311Lack of iodine can also cause adrenal problems, because it's more stress on the body. Though too much iodine can overstimulate and also strain adrenals, which are trying to keep up. So you can see, you need enough of it, but not an amount that's too much too soon. Rather pace yourself. Kelp by the way is apparently beneficial to the entire glandular system (including adrenals) as is celtic sea salt. An adrenal fatigue book I has actually recommends a mix of celtic sea salt and kelp. Some don't like kelp because they think it has contaminants and should be avoided and rather someone should just use the celtic sea salt and an iodine supplement like lugol's or something. it really is a bit of a controversial topic, just like mercury!
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Re: Some questions about supplements.
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03/17/08 09:51 PM
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Hi Sergio, I think it might be a good idea to try an iodine containing supplement and just start at the low dose and work up. It depends on the amount in the supplement or lugol's, because some lugol's are much more diluted than others.
The one I have is 250 mcg a drop, and this is pretty low in comparison with other ones. Some kelp can provide around about 250 - 300 mcg of iodine per 1000 mg of kelp. It can vary. Usually it'll state on the bottle somewhere how much iodine is available in each tablet of kelp.. I am not sure of the ideal dose for each person. I would not go overboard and starting taking more than 1000 mcg, but keep it around the doses already mentioned perhaps and work up from there. I would not take over 1500 mcg per day personally unless under guidance for therapeutic reasons.
You'll usually know when you've taken too much, apparently you get moisture in the nose, or leaking a bit from the nose. When that occurs, you're saturated and need to stop for about a month and try again on a lower maintainance dose.
Some even only use a drop of lugol's twice a week (but this is less diluted one). So I am not sure how much it must provide, probably quite a lot.
Sometimes the symptoms can feel hyper, you can have a transient reaction to it from overstimulation, or detox symptoms. Or you can get some brain fog and tiredness etc.
It is hard to know how you'll react. I don't see any reason whatsoever not to have extra iodine with amalgams. Mercury displaces much needed iodine, and it's wise to supplement with those things (like selenium and zinc etc). Iodine does not pull mercury from amalgams, it just competes with it inside the body, because mercury will get in where iodine should be. And you need more iodine to offset some of this.
Same with essential fatty acids too, mercury depletes these as well.
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Re: Some questions about supplements.
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03/18/08 04:27 PM
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Hi Sergio, the "recipe" was really simple. Just equal amounts of both. Here it is:
Vitamin C – Make Your Own (Sodium Ascorbate)
How to make Vitamin C, which is called sodium ascorbate:
Buy ascorbic acid crystals
mix equal amounts of ascorbic acid crystals and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) in a glass (1/4 teaspoon = 1,200 mgs. of vitamin C)
add filtered water
Ascorbic acid crystals can be hard on the teeth, so mixing it with baking soda and taking it in water avoids this problem.
I hope that helps. Not sure about the filtered water though....I don't have filtered water personally, but the water we have isn't too bad.
You can also add a vitamin C that also contains bioflavonoids. E.g. rutin, rose hips, Hesperidin, etc, it's up to you.
Here too is the vitamin C flush and apparently Hal Huggins recommends this in his mercury detox pamphlett as well.
Vitamin C Flush
To assist with problems related to the intestinal tract, it is recommended that you do a Vitamin C Flush. This involves creating a short-term diarrhea, which begins a process of flushing out mutant bacteria colonies and heavy metals, such as mercury, that hinder normal chemical reactions in the intestinal tract and bowel. Mercury creates an imbalance in these bacteria that are unfavorable to proper digestion of amino acids (protein building blocks) and the manufacturing of vitamins and certain enzymes.
Please note that each person is unique and will react differently to the C-Flush. Do not expect your experience to be the same as someone else’s.
The C-Flush Procedure
1. It is recommended that you do the C-Flush on Saturday. The procedure can take from 5 to 7 hours. Plan Accordingly.
2. Take one level teaspoon of Vitamin C Powder mixed with 1 level teaspoon of baking soda in 5 ounces of filtered water every twenty minutes until diarrhea occurs – up to a maximum of 15 teaspoons of each in one day. If you have not achieved diarrhea after 15 teaspoons, STOP! Do the procedure again on Sunday.
3. During this procedure drink plenty of fluids to avoid dehydration, i.e. sip Bee’s Electrolyte Drink (1/4 teaspoon ocean sea salt and the juice of 1/2 lemon in 6 ounces of filtered water) and herbal teas, particularly ginger or fennel – see Recipes Folder.
4. If you experience nausea, bloating cramping or gas drink more ginger or fennel tea, or chew on raw ginger.
5. Continue to eat regular meals throughout the day.
6. Continue to take supplements as regularly scheduled.
Do one C-Flush procedure each week for three weeks in a row then skip three weeks and do one more on the 7th week (3 weeks on, 3 weeks off, 1 week on again). This protocol will help eliminate undesirable bacteria and help balance bowel function.
Excerpts from: Value of a Vitamin Flush - <a href="hhttp://www.drhuggins.com/default.asp?PageName=Vitamin%20C%20Flush" target="_blank">hhttp://www.drhuggins.com/default.asp?PageName=Vitamin%20C%20Flush</a>
I hope this all helps Sergio. Best of luck! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
PS. I don't eat oranges because fruit feeds my candida problems. I used to be able to eat some fruit, even with candida because I had mercury but not the problems I have now (viral/infection etc). So you maybe just fine too. But sugar/wheat/gluten/yeast? Were always nightmares for me, even when I wasn't as ill as I am these days. So to my mind they are the worst culprits. The ones you mentioned are fine. Rose hips are good too, because you won't get that in your sodium ascorbate, and they're a good one to have.
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Re: Some questions about supplements.
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04/29/08 10:14 AM
04/29/08 10:14 AM
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Has any tried this product, "amino sport " by biotics research? www.bioticsresearch.comThe nutritionist recommended it but it is derived from whey protein, which I have been sensitive to. Do you all supplement amino acids or do you rely on food for a sufficient intake? I have been eating sesame,hemp,sunflower ,pumpkin seeds in large quantities and some organic goji berries which contain 20 or so amino acids. I would love to hear if anyone has tried that product & and if it is worth the risk of being sensitive to the whey protein if the benefits will outweigh that...
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