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i was reading a hal huggins book yesterday, he says that stainless steel has nickle in it, anyone know if its true because i cook in stainless steel pans.
i have been looking for glass pans but i think they are not made now,i used to have a set of four, i wish i still had them, dawn

It's endless isn't Dawn, I was also told Nickel is in Broccoli and chocolate! Perhaps we should just live in a bubbble. LOL Love Tracy x

dawn, they do have nickel, but i've heard it's ok to cook in stainless steel as long as you don't cook anything acidic, like coffee. acid supposedly sucks a lot of nickel ions from the pot.

Thanks, so cooking tomatoes in stainless steel is out then. What next!

"bubble" - lol, trace (just read it now)

check this web sight www.kitchenfantasy.com then scroll down to products ,then down to glass cooking pots

thanks mikey,il try and order some but it looks like there is limited stock.

What about cast iron, is it ok?

On the glassware, they used to make a stovetop set of saucepans out of higher heat grade pyrex, but don't anymore. I think you can still find them on ebay and stuff like that. However, if it is not specifically designed for stovetop use, do not use it there, it can explode into a bunch of little pieces. I've read about that happening to some over at mothering.com.

I feel damned if I do and damned if I don't with this cookware thing. I'm also looking for some glass reusable bottles with wide necks (easier washing) to carry in the car.

Apparently some stainless steel can definitely leech nickel, test it with a magnet, supposedly the more magnetic it is, the less nickel is in it.

A good option is cast iron or enameled cast iron. Glass is also fine.

I remember reading that sweating is the best way (possible one of the only ways too) to remove high levels of nickel in the body.

Thanks for the heads up dawn...gotta change my cookware now though.

I was using stainless steel pots and pans for a few months and stopped using them when I realized they were increasing my mercury symptoms. I noticed when I'd scrub them clean under hot water I smelled metal, so I don't know if inhaling that was causing me symptoms or cooking with them, but I felt miserable at the time I was using them, I just didn't connect that what I was feeling was mercury symptoms, I just knew I felt awful at the time. I just found the other day some glass pots and pans you can cook over the stove with called Visions, they're glass cookware, they just can't be used on a glass stovetop. Unfortunately they aren't making them anymore, but websites are selling what's on the shelf still. I got some from cutleryandmore.com and cooking.com the other day, I saw one at amazon.com too.

I found a good set of enameled pots at target. They are enameled steel (not stainless, no nickel) and the enamel is just powdered glass that they fire on, and it is very safe from my understanding.

A lot cheaper than glass cookware, though glass would be great.

Dawn, I bought Corning Visions cookware from ebway. 1-10" frying pan, 1 1-liter saucepan, 1-2.5 liter saucepan and 1-4.5 liter soup/stew pot. I love 'em !!!! Including shipping there were $80,00 total.

Food tastes so much better without all that metal leaching into it from the pan!

There's also nickel in the stainless steel forks, knives and spoons we use. Bought bamboo online from a place called "Crate & Barrel"

Hi james, Thanks, yes i saw them on Ebay, so i ordered a glass steamer from the U.S, cost £30.
I noticed Amazon have them too, im going to order more before they sell out.
Dawn. P.S, i can smell metal from my stainless steel pans too!

So, is stainless steel no good to cook in? Why's that then?
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Hi Sunshine,i was reading a hal huggins book, he mentioned that stainless steel was actually nickel,i was shocked!
i thought it was safe to use but its not at all.
dawn.

Every which way I turn I am getting gassed & poisoned!

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Sunshine, if you do some searches and reading you will find that stainless steel contains nickel and a congolomeration of other metals that can include copper, tin, aluminum and others.

There's a book written by a lady named Hulda Clark that is about healing yourself naturally who many people reference on this forum and many other forums and is considered a very important book in the health community. She is dead set against metal contact of any kind, not only dental but any metal used in cooking or glasses, knives, forks, spoons, etc. Dead set against using Reynolds wrap or wrapping food in any kind of metals, etc. Makes sense too if for no other reason than metals are not soluble.

The holistic dentist who removed my mercuries is absolute dead set against nickel and in his opinion it is a major cause of cancer. He said that when Michael Landon died very quickly of pancreatic cancer that he his mouth was full of nickel crowns, many that he had put in with the year of his death.

That is just one man's opinion of course but of all the things I've done to maximize my health, changing out my pans and flatware (forks, knives and spoons) was the easiest and very inexpensive. 'Bout $80.00 for a full set of glass cookware on ebay, $20.00 for bamboo flatware on Crate & Barrel. http://www.crateandbarrel.com/famil...mp;amp;DIMID=400001&SearchPage=1 They are all very beautiful pieces and I've had a lot of compliments from friends and relatives.

A nice benefit is that the food tastes better on many dishes without all the metal leaching into it while it cooks.

Thx James

I know aluminium cookware is dangerous, but I didn’t know stainless steel was. Seems it’s the other junk included…..lovely…just what I always wanted…more toxins.

I just been googling pots and pans….Teflon is nasty too…..oh what a joy! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dead.gif" alt="" />

Sunshine, yes Teflon is really nasty stuff.

My first experience with using glass was with these organic baked french fries I make. Used to use a teflon cookie sheet (which is what most us use to cook stuff like that). Used a rectangular glass baking pan (not one of the visions corning pieces I bought) to make the french fries. With the teflon they would be very hard and greasy. With the glass they come up crisp but tender inside and with very little grease and they tasted noticeably better. So the cooking benefits of glass are very nice too.

I don't know if you buy on ebay or not but here's the visions corning glass cookware that I bought. I really do like these pieces a lot. Got the 1-1 liter saucepan, 1-2.5 liter saucepan, 1-4.5 liter soup pot/stew pot and 1-10" skillet. There's a lot of other pieces but really that is all a person really needs. I think you can find these same items on Amazon but they cost quite a bit more Here's the ebay link: http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...title=corning+visions&category0=

If you wanted to start with a small investment to try these pieces then this is what I'd recommend: the 2.5 liter saucepan and the 10" frying pan. http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Piece-Visions...747QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks James. I am bidding on one glass frying pan on ebay. I will get one and test it out. cheers

Cool Sunshine, be interested to hear how you like it.

Dawn, I was under the impression that Huggins just wrote 1 book. Has he written a series?

Visionware made skillets too? I didn't know that. My mom used to have one of the saucepans.

You may have to adjust some of your cooking times for the oven, as the glass will heat differently than metal baking pans. I'm not sure how you adjust though.

I'm really aggravated about this. I just bought DD 2 stainless steel tippy cups in December trying to not expose her to Bisphenol A, and now there's nickel. I feel damned if i do and damned if I don't here. I'm not so sure about giving a child a glass tippy cup to throw, not to mention I'm not sure if there are any. So, is the plastic actually better? Sigh. I feel like we're not safe unless we just go back to the spit over a fire these days.

Ok, are the glazes on enamelware, and corning ware ok? White only? I've even heard talk of lead in some crock pot glazes, but never looked it up.

Thanks!
Shonda

The enamel on pots is good, its just glass. Even colored ones are safe unless they are from the 1970's, when they had cadmium in them if they were illegally imported.

They are just as safe as glass from my understanding...and I did quite a bit of research.

Hi James,i read it in the book 'Uninformed consent'. i dont know if he has any other books other than 'its all in your head'
Cheers Dawn

http://www.mothering.com/discussions/archive/index.php/t-10410.html

Here is a pretty good discussion. There's a good post by "americle" toward the bottom of the thread.

Interesting discussion altho they are all talking about their microwaving. If you are serious about your health one of the first things you do is unplug the microwave. The Q & A however at the end is excellent altho they question visionware which I've never seen in many health discussions that I've read. The sources I've read place toxic metals at the highest of priorities to eliminate and the plastics and polymers at significantly lesser priority.

Another nice perk to the visions corningware is that you can cook, bake and refrigerate your food in it so it is very versatile. Yes, you can also microwave in it too if you still do that.

What I will usually do is make a pot of soup in the 4.5 liter, eat about 2/3 of it, put the lid back on and put it in the refrigerator. Then the next day I will take it out, let it stand for a while to acclimate then heat it right up in the same pot. I don't usually like to eat leftovers at all as leftovers aren't as healthy as freshly cook but what the heck, nobody's perfect.

Many of the people at mothering think as you do and won't use a microwave at all. They discuss the safe cookware thing there all the time, and never come to any great conclusions because there are flaws with almost all of them:
stainless: nickel, but less so if it's the heavy kind that a magnet will stick to
aluminum: well, aluminum
cast iron: heavy, can be difficult to clean, hard to cook eggs in until you get them seasoned really well, can't be put in the dishwasher
enamelware: the good kinds with thick enough enamel are VERY expensive
visionware: has a tendency to explode without warning. I thought this was the cookware I wanted until I read story after story of it exploding. Now, I'm not sure about whether the old borosilicate kind did or if it's just the newer stuff, but I think that's why the old was taken off the market? I could be completely mistaken about that.

I personally want the le creuset (I think that's how it's spelled?), but cannot afford it and amalgam removal too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

Shonda

I"ve never heard about visions corning exploding, would like to know the circumstances. My guess is that it was people who had the pot/pan in the refrigerator then stuck it in a pre-heated oven, microwave or hot stovetop. The dramatic change in temperature could cause problems.

I can't seeing something like that exploding, tho. Explosions are usually when you have air trapped inside of something like a bottle. Open-ended items don't explode. They may crack or fissure but an explosion is virtually impossible.

But actually, I've never heard of even cracks or fissure. Friend has had a set for years with no problems.

Actually, the net is full of stories of people who had the stuff explode without these drastic changes, or small changes in temp, like cooling on the counter out of the oven when the contents remain hot but the outside begins to cool. There are stories of them exploding in the dishdrainers, etc. too. I think the older borosilicate ones are less likely to, but still do sometimes.

On the Le Creuset, anyone know of what is used to produce the different colors? I know LC is known for the great colors and I like that too, but wanna make sure whatever they use to color the enamel is safe. I think that they used to use cadmium in the reds before a certain date, but stopped after like 1990? I tried looking but all I found was info on the cadmium and that they stopped using it, some say in the '70s, but others say '90s.

Did some searches and read some message boards where you are correct, there have been instances of explosions. Thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention.

I'll take my chances on the glass cookware rather than mess with the cadmium, iron and ceramic in the Le Creuset, tho.

To each his own, but the last thing most people in this dental/mercury forum want to do is add more metal into their diet. We're all trying to get the metal out of our mouths and bodies rather than figuring out ways to put more in.

Btw, make sure you aren't allergic to any of those metals as they score high on allergy tests.

Make we should all become raw foodists like the true health kooks say we should that way no cooking. LOL