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Hi everyone,
The past few months have been a bit rough,all kinds symptoms,I have been needing to rest alot and have hardly left my house or garden at all,went to local shops twice.
I have hardly looked in a mirror but about 2 weeks ago, I noticed parts of my face were yellow tinted.The palms of my hands and soles of my feet too.
I wasn't too alarmed and didnt think much more about it,just thought 3 things
liver, detox and the homeopathic remedy "chelidonium homaccord"(which I've been taking since February ,for the liver
but the box also states for hepatitis...and so I thought maybe this was causing yellowness.

Anyway yesterday mid-morning I started to feel very ill and exhausted(even more than before) I lay on my bed feeling so ill,I thought that I was dying.
After a few hours I felt easier but have been resting since.I went out into the garden and looked into a mirror in the daylight,my face is very definitely yellow in parts.<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/unsure.gif" alt="" />
The white of my eyes are still white though.
Maybe this is some sort of natural healing crisis.
Thismorning same time felt ill again but was not as sick,just scared of feeling the same as yesterday.

Anyone know of what this is?I am thinking it's a "healing crisis",and the yellow,I always associate with jaundice is my liver clearing out.yippee
I'm going to see the natural medicine man tomorrow.

In one way it's good if it just happens every morning at the same time,I can plan my life around it!! The unpredictable nature of my symptoms is what frustrates me the most,
Also on a positive note it's when my son is at school so I can just crawl into bed till it passes.

I have just done a yellow search and read a post entitles Dr Peatfield, by Sunshine...
it lists yellow tinged skin as a symptom of hypothyroidism.
And all of the other symptoms match me too.

That is defintely jaundice sunflower, and you need a doctor ASAP.

It means your liver is not working properly. Basically, your liver is dumping urine wastes into your bloodstream. And it can kill you.

You need a doctor asap!! I wouldn't rely on a homeopathic doc for this one. find an integrative med doc if you are able and get yourself there asap.

I would also stop drinking the tea, maybe it is causing problems.

Are your bm's normal? A couple every day? Any Pain? have you ever done a colon cleanse or liver cleanse?

Sunflower

I think the key here is that the whites of your eyes are not yellow. With jaundice, and Gilberts syndrome, the eyes also go yellow.

Yellow-tinged skin is a symptom of hypothyroidism, as the liver doesn't function so well when hypothyroid. I can personally attest to this - I have Gilberts syndrome, and am hypo - and my main symptoms are liver-related.

I would get your liver tested by your GP - just to rule out anything ominous. Then forget about him, as he will be useless for thyroid matters. Can you see Dr Peatfield? - he's probably your best bet.

Best

Nicola

Going yellow indicates liver problems. I know u recently went amalgam free and have been …coping…. with the after-effects of that. The liver is the largest detoxing organ of the body and is in the front line for detoxing the mercury in the body.

Going yellow indicates your liver needs some serious support. Sorry to say but I don’t think it means you are having a healing crisis. I think I means your liver is struggling and needs supporting.

But I have never been yellow myself, and I’m only going from memory so I need to read up about this. I will have a look tonight in some books, but Amalgam illness is full of different supports you can take for liver. I will look ‘em up when I get home tonight and give you the page numbers.

In the mean time what liver support are you on? Taurine? Milk thistle? Glycine? Vit C? Have you ever done a liver flush? Have u very recently done a liver flush? I need to read a bit more….but certainly it should be herbs and spices and all things nices before a heavy duty liver flush especially if the liver is so stressed you are going yellow.

I don’t think it’s difficult to help and support the liver, but you do need to take active steps to support your liver in this stressful time, sooner rather than later too. I agree with Sos that you need to see a regular doctor too, as well as the NP.

Anyway…I will have a read tonight and report back. It might be kidney stuff too, so I will read about that as well.

Have a read here http://onibasu.com/wiki/Liver_support

googled at random but worth looking at as it lists possible causes

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/yellow_skin.htm

My palms and soles of feet are often yellow/orange. I told Dr Peatfield about it and he said it is because when you are hypo, beta carotine does not metabolise properly. It happened the most when i was poisoned with moving into a new house with the chemicals.

Page 135 of amalgam illness gives liver suppport from Cutler. You don’t need to take them all! just some of them.

Vit B6 and milk thistle is what he recommends. I know Taurine is good too, so i take it.

Thankyou Sos,
what tea?
I have never done a colon or kidney cleanse.
Bms about 2maybe 3 per day except for the past 3 days I've had 2 or 3 bouts of diarhoea in the mid-mornings.
No pain except ,a bit bloated,windy and need to go to the loo urgently during the midmorning attacks.
I have been eating a rigid anticandida diet for around 4 weeks now...but have had no cravings or anything so did not suspect
this as a dieoff reaction.
It feel is certainly a detoxing of some kind and definitely my liver,gallbladder under serious strain,because I've felt flulike and feverish around that area of my body.But I don't feel it's deadly alarming because after some resting I feel alot better.
Everyone I've talked to who has been sick with jaundice was laid out unable to move 24 /7 for weeks on end.
I am not this bad.For the rest of the day I am still able to cook,and take care of my son.
But still get fatigued and have to prioritise on things every day.

I was at the natural doc today,spent 2 hours there, he ran lots of bio energy tests and all the usual came up:
liver,stomach,gallbladder,thryroid,all the effects of mercury and other metals too I suspect.(last tests lead &nickel)
When I got home the results of the heavy metal urine that tests I did a few weeks ago had arrived and mercury showed up at 10ppm which they said "is a very high level"
I feel delighted to have this in writing to show all the sceptics around.
Natural doc says he dosnt think 10ppm in particularly high but I am glad that mercury is showing up at all.

imgeha,
Thanks for reply,I have an appointment to get a blood test done tomorrow with GP.Like you say better to rule anything out and for peace of mind.
I read all about mercury poisoning and time after time there is always this little doubt at the back of my mind,could this tiny amount of mercury cause such flipping catastrophic problems.Mind blowing.

Sunshine,thanks for replies & links,I actually logged on latish last night because I had been worried but after a glance at the links I got pannicked(I had been feeling anxious already!)
and could not read anymore,had to go and calm myself down!

I don't think I'm taking anything as liver support except the readisorb liposomal gluthathione.
I take plenty of pure ascorbic acid dissolved in water but with food or close too.
I have not taken any vit c for 3 days now because of stomach upset in mornings.
(and I'm not pregnant unless it's an immaculate conception!)

I've never done a liver flush ,I am threading very cautiously and gently with my liver as it's always showed from tests to be stressed & strained.
I have been reading through those links,
Thanks for all the help support.

The natural doc gave me some more remedies to take but they are for radiation,electricity sensitivity,which is also causing me problems right now.

Mati,
I have been orange before! About 2 summers ago,I was eating alot of carrots and sweet potatoes!My palms and face were orange,but as it was summer I think it looked like I had put fake tan on my face with my hands!

It is interesting that it happened the most when you moved into a new house with the chemicals.
I als wonder about if my central (gas) heating could be poisoning me with carbon monoxide,maybe I should get this checked.

Do you take anything to treat hypothyroid?
Also did the yellow/orange go away after a while.
I can live with the colour just as long as I know exactly what it is and why it's happening

Thanks again...
I got my amalgam illness book back today after 4 months so will be busy studying it .

Yes the orange went in time as i detoxed a little. It was orange though and you say yellow. I remember a friend on a candida diet who went yellow. It went as her health improved.

I am taking nothing as yet for hypo. I was given glandulars and they made me ill so I am getting the saliva test done first.

Mati ,what's the saliva test for?
I have been doing the anti candida diet,super strict for about 4 weeks.I wonder if it just pushed my poor liver over the edge.

The natural medicine man gave me a few remedies to take,what do you all think of this:
www.nutrienergetics.com

also the nutritional therapist recommends this(product called NDF plus)I know how some of you feel about the chorella & cilantro.I think this looks like agreat quality one:
www.bioray2000.com

I have just read an older thread about NDF plus-
YIKES there are lots of horror stories.
I am too scared of Andrew Cutlers protocol.
Don't know what to do.

I took NDF once after I released a lot of mercury from antifungal use. I must have taken too much NDF too soon and I was almost bedridden for 3 weeks. I never got that with andy cutler's protocol, so long as I stuck to the frequent time dosing. If I messed up, missed a dose and continued on regardless, then I would experience redistribution and that would then cause severe effects.

I think people are afraid of Cutler's because it's medicated, (DMSA), rather than natural. But natural does not necessary mean that bad things don't happen. They do because you're dealing with a neurotoxin and the way this stuff is moved can cause severe side effects and it can easily be migrated into more sensitive tissues and into the brain.

Cutler's seeks to reduce redistribution and move mercury out more evenly and safely due to keeping the chelating agent levels even in the blood. This is why he recommends taking it every 4 hours (or more often if needed).

If you want to talk to someone about NDF, you may find this guy here of great help to you:
http://www.garylittleton.org/gl/content/view/31/31/

He took it and I think he tried NDF plus and had a horrific response to that, but I am not sure what happened or how he got himself out of it. He's used cutler's as well. He's done both, he'd be a good one to ask. He seems to have a great deal of knowledge about mercury and other issues and the best things to take whilst you chelate/detox and how to prepare etc.

I hope this helps.

I would never use a chelator with an alcohol base. Not totally sure but I think that applies to NDf, HMD and things of that nature. If there is cilantro in there or chlorella, cilantro, chlorella and alcohol do not mix real well from my extensive personal experience learned the hard way a few times over.

You might just consider eating cilantro, a couple sprigs a day in small salad, with some garlic chopped up in there and then go whole hog for the chelator pesto at some point downline.

Sounds like you are feeling ok sunflower, that's a relief, had me worried. Dandelion is real good for your liver and kidneys, you should be able to find some growing weedy near the garden, pick some tender leaves, make salads with oilive oil and lemon juice, a bit of salt. Should make you feel much better by the next day. That was one if the first items that made me feel better when i was real sick, the dandelion. It cleans your blood somehow, liver, maybe your kidneys a bit. And it's free for the picking. It really works. and nothing is better than fresh.

You might also seriously start thinking about a (hulda clark recipe) liver flush. It's an amazing thing.

I am so jealous of your chickens.

sunflower

It is the adrenal stress one. Through Dr Peatfield it is £100 but at canary club in the US they do it for $140 and you get the sex hormones done too so it is less than half the price. If you get the thyroid test with the adrenal it is only $199. Geneva sent me an ice pack but I read somewhere else that you don't need to freeze saliva. I must say that I am disappointed in the follow up from Dr P. I have not heard from him at all about the glandular.

It is always good to get in touch with a few people who have tried these different things. Nutrienergetics should give you some contact numbers for this.

Bex,
Thankyou I'll talk to that guy.
You are right about me being afraid because of the fact it's not natural...but what I'm really scared about is the effects of mercury and how worse I can get.I have had some rough times and dont want to feel any worse than that.
Each time I tell myself I must be over the worst now but mercury is continuously surprising me

Sos,I have some dandalion tea(which I have not drank in a few months,for some reason,but we have a pretty wild garden,with plenty of dandalions,I keep looking at them lately maybe my body knows what it needs if I just stop to listen!
I'll start off slowly,and try one thing at a time,or I may not know what remedy is giving what results.

Is the liver flush safe for someone with a seriously stressed liver?It's on my to-do list for the future but I think I'll get some liver support,need to read more about it.
Chickens are so delightful,my son likes to pick them up & carry them around ,we have 6 (one eyed willie didnt make it,we think a fox got him,we have spotted 2 foxes lurking around the park behind the garden) he was the weakest of the bunch,he had one eye,and had to feel his way around,and hardly ever left the chichen run(reminded me of myself!)
They have just started (they gave us easter eggs) and give us 6 eggs every day.

Thanks for all your help

Hi Sunflower, I can understand your concerns! The mercury is a much bigger concern than DMSA. DMSA poses a problem if one is simply intolerant to it and cannot even take the tiniest dose (e.g. even 1 mg may set them off). Usually you can tell if it's that or mercury detox. I think it's good stuff.

But it is really up to you and what you feel like trying. A dentist in my country (one of the top) uses NDF for his mercury patients and has done for years with success. He has read Cutler's book, but prefers his own protocol and obviously it must work or he would have abandoned it. However, I was not so tolerant of the stuff when I was mercury toxic and had to go back to Cutler's. Every person is different.

He would use it even on those who had amalgams, but he would make sure they brushed with it first, spit out and then take the dose. Just to be extra careful. But before this? there is a pre prep. This means that the gut and liver MUST be in a state where they can handle further increase in the movement of toxins from detoxification.

He would put them on the candida diet and use gentle herbal antifungals (though I found the diet alone ok for me, antifungals were often too strong and can release metals from yeast by splitting them open). I was very sick after an earlier antifungal use so I preferred to just do the diet instead, but the antifungals he gave me did not pose a problem (probably because earlier ones had already done the damage!). Also probiotics were required after the yeast was reduced by diet and etc. Plus support for the liver etc and other vitamins/minerals.

Later came NDF when the patient was improved enough and ready from the diet and other supplements.. And starting the NDF at a low dose that was suited for the individual (certain testing was involved).

I had problems with my liver and other issues, so I was a particularly difficult patient!

NDF is best to start with ONE drop, as it is pretty potent stuff. You ramp up slowly as tolerated. healing crisis can occur, so you can drop back or take a break if you need to. You will know if you want to continue with it or not. I would never overdo it, you need to find out how you respond to the stuff.

Mercury is never easy anyway. Post amalgam removal is a real roller coaster ride of symptoms whether you chelate or not. Chelating speeds up the slow detox process further and can sometimes "help" symptoms, but usually it increases them at the time. However, I didn't want to wait around, I was so ill from the mercury that I wanted out of me A.S.A.P. But too often I overdid and backfired! It's tempting to do because you just want to get well.

Whatever you decide to do, I hope that it works out for you.

Re NDF – Cutler protocol


That’s fair enough and totally normal with new things. I was scared when I first started chelating. That feeling will not go away until you try something. But just jumping in and taking NDF because your NP said it was great……all you are doing is giving the responsibility of your health to someone else. “NP said it was ok….so I will follow what he/she recommends.” Did he explain that some people get really hurt when they do this protocol? (yes…that’s all NDF is, just another mercury detox protocol)

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Chelation_products.html#NDF

Some reports with zero effects, some with good effects, some with nightmare effects.....but what will it do to you??? Thats the most important thing…..what will it do to you? The only way is to try it and see what happens. Personally i would not even take the risk of further damaging my health. My health is too precious to take such a risk, but loads of other people thinks its an acceptable risk…except of course those people that get screwed up.

Please read all the messages in the link before you decide to take it nor not.


That’s fair enough and totally normal, but you should be just a cautious about protocols like NDF.

Re cutler protocol. You heard my stories of getting occasionally hurt…but I learn from my results, and because I only make small changes I recover from my setbacks quickly. It’s usually because I specifically changed something or tried to push things quicker than I can handle, but everytime I do…I learn something new….thats what the protocol gives me….control and the ability to detox the mercury at a pace that I can handle. At least I always know roughly why I have had a problem, so I can avoid it next time.

What is the biggest thing I learned? I learn I am very mercury poisoned and I react to minute amounts of chelators and I need to be very careful and selective of my choice and method of chelators…that’s because I am so sensitive and so poisoned. So talking stuff like NDF is not on the cards for me….its not worth the risk.

Sorry to startle you with my posts, but going yellow is not usual and needs to be addressed. IOU a favour and now I know how to repay your kindness of a couple of months ago. I will send u a PM.

I'd pay close attention to what your body says... dandelion is one of the best liver supports available. The tea... is probably old. As long as no one has sprayed pesticides or herbicides near your garden for a year or two, then the best thing you've got is that fresh dandelion, better than anything you can buy in a store. No need to start slowly with that either, it's simply good good good and will not ever hurt you. Eat it fresh, make a salad with it. Put a bit of garlic in to thin your blood a bit and help eliminate mercury too. Olive oil and lemon make a great salad dressing/vinegrette and help clean your liver too. You really can't miss with that one. You can use some apple cider vinegar in the dressing if you'd like too.

If I were yellow and couldn't make it to a doctor, dandelion salad (not tea) would be the number 1 first thing on my list to help clean my blood. It's the only thing I know of that really does a good job with the liver quickly. I'd eat 2 small salads per day if possible, maybe take some vitamin C. Drink plenty of water. Do not use onions in a dandelion salad, the oxalic acid may not be helpful in this regard.

I have to agree with sunshine... going yellow is not usual and needs to be addressed.

I am not sure I would attempt something like DMSA with a prexisting liver issue, not without a doctor to keep an eye on things anyway.

You might also get sunshine's advice concerning liver flushes with all this, he's done plenty of them too. Personally, I don't think it would hurt you, Chances are excellent that what's causing the problem are blocked bile ducts and the liver flush takes care of that really well. The epsom salts also help your kidneys release toxins. You are suppose to do a parasite cleanse prior to that though, and that may cause some issues if you aren't able to do at least a few days of something strong like black walnut hull tincture first.

Black walnut hull will also help clear your liver and kidneys btw, because it kills parasites that block your bile ducts too. You are suddenly able to pee a lot better is the very first thing you notice after using black walnut hull, no wonder because it really clears you out, it is also recommended for jaundice. I have never seen the whites of my eyes so white as when I was using black walnut hull daily. It's very effective for that.

Maybe you can try some of the mini daily liver flushes instead too, the olive oil/lemon or olive oil/grapefruit flushes are quite safe and will help your liver let go of stones though not as many at one time like the full epsom salt-olive oil/grapefruit flush. There's a page at curezone about that, I'll link it here.

Liver Flush recipes:

here is the link to the hulda clark liver cleanse:

http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp


and here is a page with some other options for liver flushes too:

http://curezone.com/faq/p/s.asp?a=28,571,2826&s=21

Hi everyone,I've read through all the replies but am a bit tired to reply more today.
I am really scared, I keep asking myself how bad can it get and I think of Sandi,how she was with us one day and gone
the next.I am trying to be positive but She was the queen of positive.I think I really need to hear some success stories.
Sorry if I sound depressing.Surely you all feel this at some point,seen as we experiencing similiar stuff?
I am just a bit anxious and scared at the moment.
Thank you all for the kindness and time to reply,I am so gratefull.

Don’t be scared Sunflower, no way. Be thankful that you have discovered it now. Remember when you had that mole removed and they found it did have a thingamajig attached?…remember how happy you where that you took action early and sorted it out before anything bad could happen?….well….this will be the same too. After you have sorted it out, you will feel better, happy, satisfied & proud and you will be healthier as a result too.

I react very badly to dandelion and milk thistle, and yet handle things like turmeric very well. I don't have any severe symptoms anymore (thank god!) , but I do get some nasty symptoms when I overwork myself physically.

So my advice is try turmeric if you don't handle dandelion or milk thistle well. I hear chlorella is also very cleansing for the liver and I react good do that and have been taking it as well.

Good luck and hope you find something that helps out

-Gary

P.S. Whatever you do in response to this, try not to overdo it! Mercury can't be overcome by force, its the most toxic non radioactive substance there is and you have to be gentle in your approach. More is not better...take it a step at a time.

Turmeric is good advice. I have been reading about Jaundice and Turmeric has been used for years to cure jaundice. It is a bit sulphury...so depends on how you handle sulphur foods....but defo worth investigating.

I have eaten tumeric every day for the past 6 months or so!
I actually just thought perhaps that was turning me yellow...
I started to take it for it's anti imflamatory properties but the more I read about it it's really amazing properties.

Are you eating anything high in carotenes? I was eating red virgin palm oil and that tinged me yellow because its such a dense source of very easily absorbable carotenes.

I eat peppers most days ,also carrots and sweetpotatoes very often,probably 3 or 4 days out of the week.Possibly more if I've added them to a soup.
I try and have lots of different coloured vegetables though but I would say I have high betacarotene intake for sure.
A practitioner recently told me that people with hypothyroid can have trouble processing betacarotene.
Maybe it's causing me problems but I am still trying to vary my diet as much as possible.
The yellow has faded right away,yesterday,and today I just look pale and washed out.

Do a test and take a break from high carotene foods...it may make a big difference. If I eat too much carotenes (like a big serving of sweet potatoes or carrots) I will feel extra dumb the next day, I guess you could say brain fog. For vitamin A I eat a lot of butter and also take a supplement of vitamin A extracted from fish liver oil, as retinol from natural animal sources is a lot better for the body and easier to utilize.

Spinach is the most carotenes I eat that doesn't effect me negatively. The thing is detoxification has two phases, carotenes can speed up the first phase but if your second phase can't keep up it can make you feel worse than if you didn't eat as much carotenes.

Thanks.
You are right.Yes action is needed.I feel I am on the right track, at least I have found for sure mercury & other metals are poisoning me.I have a few important decisions to make now about chelation.But can't do it right now ,need a few days to gather my thoughts & recharge.It can be scary when I feel so ill,weak & vulnerable and to be then given harmfull or inappropiate advice from doctors and practitioners,who sometimes it seems know even less about it than I do.
I thought I knew a bit about it but the deeper I delve the more overwhelmed I feel.A bit out of my depth.

Hi, the sweet potatoes and carrots may have caused brain fog because they are high carbohydrate vegetables and will likely feed yeast (brain fog can be a side effect of that). I cannot eat them because of this. Spinach likely won't because it is not a high carb vegetable. The test will be to eat something with high carotene, but low in carbs and see if the brain fog occurs. If not, then it's highly likely the higher carbs of the other veges were the problem.

I have to second the advice on butter!

Sunflower, I don't know if you have seen the testimonies I put up about Cutler's protocol? you mentioned on here that you don't see much positive stuff happening? I think you may need to read this: http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/sh...&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
(also often people who get well, leave and do not come back, they just get on with their lives, so people are constantly drifting on and slowly drifting off, sometimes it's hard to keep track, so it can seem very negative, when it may not be).

You will always get some people who seem permanent residents, because often they maybe suffering other things as well as mercury, or something else altogether and struggle to find the answer. Also mercury detox is not a speedy process and can take a couple of years or so (depends on the level of toxicity and the effectiveness of the chelation programme, and the person's overall health and elimination). So people will likely be sick for sometime post amalgam removal as their body tries to slowly eliminate the storage, chelation will speed that up and likely make things much more effective, than if you tried to "let nature take its course" because it's a slowwwwww road and doing nothing doesn't usually help much, but hurting yourself with over-zealous chelation/redistribution doesn't either.

Bex, the worst offender for brain fog is virgin red palm oil for me, so its definitely not yeast. I can eat grains fine without brainfog. If I eat a Tablespoon of palm oil and get ~300% super easily asborbed carotenes (because they are dissolved in oil) I feel so stupid the next day and almost like my brain is swollen.

This alone is a very important realisation/understanding for you to make. Takes a long time for that information to ”sink in” properly…did with me anyway.

This is a good thing. Congrats. I have learned that I must go at my own pace too. I try real hard to only do things that I understand. I find I must focus on learning one new thing at a time.

Again, this is SO important. They DON’T know, they DON’T understand, they know just enough to bugger u up. You been hanging about on herb allure for 6 months or so now….you know massively more than your doctors about mercury.

Again….understanding this is so important. One new thing at a time.

Keep asking questions. You may get various different answers…but they will all help you decide what you want to do to get better.

Hi Sunflower
I am so sorry you are having these problems. I am doing a liver flush right now and it is one I ordered from Dr Schulze. I was scared of doing the other one. I was worried about stones getting stuck and my worst fear is a hospital. Did not want to go there. I am on day 2 of this flush and so far so good. It is a 5 day flush. The herbs he has you take with it actually help to dissolve the stones which sounded good for me. I will keep you posted on how well I do and my results.
I don't know if you are doing the castor oil packs but from what I have read they are excellent for the liver and helping with the congestion...I think they also help soften the stones. I have been doing them for about 5 months and have seen a world of results with myself. Another thing that has helped so so much was a colon cleanse. Oil pulling helps with digestion and cleansing the blood, well that is what I have read. I also do dry brushing, don't know if that will help with liver but is good for the lymph system. Also hydrotherapy in the shower right on the liver...hot as you can stand for 15 seconds and the cold as you can stand for 15 sec, 7 times each. I also use a mini trampoline for excercise and lymph. Reflexology too especially on the feet.
Don't know if this will help but I figure anything you could do to give the body some help will make things easier.
Here is a link where I ordered the flush from:http://www.herbdoc.com/abp_1024x768.asp
I am also taking his superfood and is giving me lots of energy, it tastes a little weird but I will get used to it. Hope you feel better soon.<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sunnyflower.gif" alt="" />
Rachel

Thankyou Skieslimit,
My worst fear is a hospital too.Seriously, and my life being in the hands of people who
1.don't have a clue
2.medicate people for everything.
What a frightening place to go!

I am looking into the flushes and cleanses.
I have not been doing my oilpulling for about 5 months,and can't remember why I stopped doing that.
I also have a mini trampoline that I used to use daily,but have not been able for that kind of exercise for months &months,
when I start back it will be really gradual,1 minute or so,because it's so easy to overdo it on trampoline,it gives such a thorough workout,I loved it.
I saw the superfood you mention on the "supplements" thread,it looks enticing.
I am starting to take some powdered hempseed and increase my animal protein because I feel I'm not getting enough &my body is working so hard to repair the damage.

I have all the symptoms of m.e./chronic fatigue syndrome and something osteopaths have noticed in m.e. patients is that for some reason some of them have their lymph system working in reverse???The last few lymph drainage massages I've had left me feeling quite ill,for days and on 1 occasion weeks
There is a local osteopath who specialises with m.e. patients I wonder if it's worth a try.

Sorry for the long reply!
I was also wondering about the "7 day immune cycle"
For the last 3 Tuesdays I have felt very sick and had to spend hours of the day in bed...particlarly bad midmorning from 10ish
I have been trying to see if there is anything I did/ate on Mondays or even Sundays to see if that was causing it but can't make any connection.

Hi Sunflower
I know what you mean about the excercise and yes it hurts if you do too much to start. I started out at maybe 5 min a day and I am up to about 15 min on days I don't work and on days I work basically I let the work be the excercise. I clean houses and apartments for a living so there is a lot of stooping, bending, walking. I also try to get a nap in the afternoons if I can.
I have been watching this Dr Schulze on google video and I think he is great...he has cured alot of people of incurable diseases such as cancer. He did a whole series of videos called save your life with a man named Sam Biser. All of these were on google and I watched all of them before Sam Biser had them removed. Mr Biser wants to make money so threatened Dr Schulze with a law suit if he did not take them off. But the videos from Dr Schulze are still on there and you can go to his site and get all kinds of info on cleansing and flushing.
I have done the colon cleanse from him and really helped alot. He says any cleansing program should begin with the colon and getting it clean and after having done one I agree big time with that. My stomach was such a mess and that is what made me want to do the colon cleanse. I went to an nd when all of this began and I thought that would be where they would start but no they went the other way and they hurt me. So far with going on Dr Schulze advice I am moving on in a positive healing direction. I have been working on his advice for about 4 months and the results are tremendous. The liver flush I am doing is great so far and the superfood is a big help...still getting used to the taste and I would rather have a bad taste in my mouth opposed to no colon in my body cause you know the docs would have been ready to cut it out already LOL Stupid stupid drs ! How can they think that running around with a peice of the body gone, a peice that God felt was important is ok. Its not ok but God designed the body so miraculously that it can still function even when dibiitated...in my opinion it just re-routes and finds another way unless of course it is too late.
Anyways I feel this liver flush will help me so much, it also kills parasites and I had them in my liver and intestines. I am also hitting the colon cleanse again while I am doing this and the liver flush kit came with a blood and lymph cleanser. All is going really well so far. This is day 3 and it is a 5 day flush with a 3 day juice fast in the middle. I have not had any hypoglycemic attacts while doing this and I think it is because of his superfood. when I was going to the nd they put me on a candida cleanse and after 3 days I could not take it anymore. I felt so weak I had to stop.
Here is a link to curezone on Dr Schulze, he tells you how to do all his therapieshttp://curezone.com/schulze/default.asp
Here is a link to google video you can watch if ya wanthttp://video.google.com/videosearch?q=richard+schulze&sitesearch=
Hang in there and I hope some of this helps in some way.
Rachel

just emphasizing.

She's right sunflower, colon cleanse and liver flush.. get to it. 2 items there to give you your life back within 2 short weeks.

I agree with Sos and Skies

Skieslimit,
Thankyou for those great links! and what a profound post!
I am delighted to hear of your health improving and so well deserved,about time too!It made me smile too ,that man
Dr Schulze is funny,what joy &energy,it's great.
Yes,definitely I am doing the cleanses and flushes asap...I am gathereing all info and preparing myself,It seems 100%
the right way to go.
Sometimes it takes a while for the obvious to sink in...
you know the expression,
"when the student is ready the teacher will appear"
thanks everyone for the advice.
I just wasn't ready before,it takes a while for new things(well new to me)to get used to the idea for a while & I tend to be so cautious of things because of being sick for so long.

Hey Sunflower
You are very welcome and just wanted to let you know liver flush went really well. I did all of it and so far so good I discovered I could drop some of the supplements with the superfood but not all of them. Sad but I dropped 7 of them so thats good.
Dr Schulze he is a funny man makes ya want to get busy and get to work don't he? I like him when I am at the house and I am having a bad day(one of those go back to bed days) I can turn his videos on and he makes ya want to keep moving. He is very uplifting. i wish you could have seen all of the save your life videos before Sam Biser had Schulze remove them...was excellent stuff.
Yeah and skeptical about all of this I was too, when everybody was talking about supplementing iodine I looked at it but was scared of it and I could not get it here at first. Then one day I spotted it at the health food store 40 miles from here and I got some. Well just to show how scared I was of it I did the iodine test on the skin....for 2 weeks LOL I started with 1 drop and all was ok so a month later I uped it to 2 and I am still at 2. Not that I can't up it but i go slowly with everything. I can usually tell in a couple of days if something will bother me. I muscle test everything new and sometimes all my regular stuff just to make sure nothing has changed. Hang in there and I will be praying it will be an easy journey for you. Be patient and take one day at a time and one step at a time.

hello Sunflower
I just wanted to let you know I am having problems with the chlorella in the superfood so you might want to think about it before you get anything like that. I put all the stuff that is happening on the supplements thread....my brain is not real good today so I am not gona re-write it. My typing sucks. Anyways just wanted to warn ya!!!
Rachel

Thanks for replies and the warning!
I hope you are feeling better,I have not been on here for a few days.
No I'm scared of the chlorella,I've just had 2 really great days ,the first in months and so seriously not thinking of doing anything crazy like taking chlorella.

I saw some yummy tender looking dandelions by the garden yesterday, whole bunches, I am going to eat them in a great big salad for lunch today. I had fresh picked cilantro for lunch yesterday.

Do not eat chlorella. Use it on your behind, it's more useful there. Does make a good mouthwash though, be sure to spit it out.