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Autistic child question about mercury
#35155
04/23/08 02:28 AM
04/23/08 02:28 AM
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Hi, I am new here. My question may seem naive but feel a need to ask it anyway. I have children who are autistic. The Autism occured after the vacinations. Before they had them they were developing normally. Naturally I am one of thousands of Parents doing research on their own on this topic. In many places I have read that Mercury seems to migrate to the Brain of "some" children causing neurological damage or mercury poisening to the Brain. My thought was why "some" children and not others? I am trying to look at something my kids have as a common denominator. One thing is they have always had high cholesterol. Can Mercury bind to cholesterol and flow to the brain? And what about Iron? Thanks for your help.
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Re: Autistic child question about mercury
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04/23/08 02:48 AM
04/23/08 02:48 AM
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Hi Pam my understanding is that autism is a multilayered, multifactoral condition which can in some cases be improved by chelating out metals. I'm not sure cholesterol has anything to do with it. High cholesterol is a symptom of low thyroid, which is common in autistic children and mercury toxic people. I think researchers have found that more boys than girls are autistic because of the protective neurological effects of estrogen. This is a HUGE topic, but I think if you are looking at vaccinations / thimerosal / mercury as a cause, you should have a look at this forum http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/here there are parents chelating their children on the Andy Cutler protocol, which is largely acknowledged to be the safest way of chelating mercury. Some parents have recovered their autistic children completely, others are in the process. Good luck in your research!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Nicola
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Re: Autistic child question about mercury
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04/23/08 06:39 PM
04/23/08 06:39 PM
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Hi Pam I read this article and I think it will give you some hope in curing your children. It involves chelating and avoidance of electromagnetic radiation (wifi, mobile phone, DECT). please readGood Luck
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Re: Autistic child question about mercury
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04/23/08 08:24 PM
04/23/08 08:24 PM
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Thanks for all the responses. I have read many of these articles already but did join the forum on Yahoo. However my question was not actually asking if mercury CAUSED high cholesterol, I was actually trying to figure out what a common denomenator could be in regard to why only SOME children are affected by Thimerosal and others are not. All 4 of our children have multiple disibilities. Autism, ADHD, PICA, Bi-polar Disorder, Learning disibilities, epelipsy, and the list goes on. The children were adopted and Brandon whom is the youngest we got at 4 1/2 weeks old. He was a healthy normal child untill after his vaccinations. At around 18 months he began to regress. The children are less than a year apart in age and all had shots between 1997 and 2000. One thing they all have in common is high cholesterol. Cholesterol can not travel through the bloodstream by itself, or that is my understanding. It needs some help as it is a sticky waxy substance. It needs to be lubricated. Would mercury not be a lubricant? If the mercury traveled with cholesteral it could attach itself to the brain and other organs using the cholesterol as a binder. Does this sound too far fetched?
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Re: Autistic child question about mercury
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04/24/08 06:29 AM
04/24/08 06:29 AM
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Pam
For me, and I have done a fair bit of research into autism, the high cholesterol is a symptom of autism, not a cause. The cause is variously, and in no particular order, genetic susceptibility, toxins (mercury, vaccinations), weakened immune system (caused by antibiotics), food intolerances (particularly to casein and gluten), gender (males are more susceptible than females).
A classic scenario for autism is that most babies are born with some mercury load from their mother's amalgams, which will affect their immune system and thyroid (two of my three children were born hypothyroid); the weakened immune system will lead to repeated upper respiratory infections in the first two years, leading to repeated courses of antibiotics, which cause yeast and weaken the immune system further. The vaccines further increase the child's mercury burden, and the MMR at 18 months is often the toxic tipping point - more than the body can take. The weakened immune system, the yeast infections, the mercury load all then conspire to bring about autism. Many think of autism as essentially a gut condition - the child craves the very foods (carbohydrates and dairy) that feed the yeast, which produce neurotoxins and cause autistic behaviour. Everything is interrelated, but mercury is quite very probably the main cause of autism.
High cholesterol is not implicated as a cause of autism, at least not in the material I have read. I see a hormone specialist who is very knowlegeable about thyroid / adrenals, and for him, high cholesterol is 80% due to low thyroid, 20% diet. Low thyroid is common in autistic children as in mercury toxic people. I have read that autism and mercury toxicity (or chronic fatigue as the doctors like to call it) are essentially the same thing - children are worse affected because their neurological connections are not yet formed and the mercury wreaks havoc on the developing brain.
I would say that the varying degrees of disability suffered by your children is a reflection of the variable nature of mercury toxicity and how it presents differently in everyone, according to genetic weakness and the degree of toxicity.
Certainly, it would be worth getting hair analyses done for them to see whether mercury is a factor, and whether you should chelate them, as they do on autism_mercury. Don't stress about the cholesterol - that would correct itself as the mercury burden comes down and thyroid function improves.
Hope this helps.
Nicola
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Re: Autistic child question about mercury
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04/25/08 06:43 AM
04/25/08 06:43 AM
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Hi there, sorry to hear about your children! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> This is tragic, as it is for any parent. To vaccinate or not to vaccinate.... I am unsure why some people seem to get away with mercury exposures and others do not. perhaps there is a genetic weakness/tendency...perhaps it is overall immune status, sensitivity, overall toxicity (from other issues) etc. Why can some people work around this stuff and others become extremely ill upon even very small exposures? I am honestly not sure, but like anything, everybody has their weaknesses and unfortunately mercury does NOT belong in a human being regardless. A potent neurotoxin and destroys lives. I know that cholesterol typically receives a bad rap, but cholesterol is not the villian it's being made out to be and is in fact very necessary for healing (brain is also made up of fat). Animals fats are the most healing (butter etc). You might find these articles of interest. http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.htmlhttp://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm (main page with options on left to look up). I was tested recently and found to have high good and high bad cholesterol. What can typically cause high cholesterol too can be mercury of course (it can also cause very low cholesterol), but also low thyroid functioning. Interestingly enough, mercury can block the action of iodine in the thyroid and cause these very problems. I now make sure I get enough iodine because of this, as I had ditched iodised table salt in favour of "healthy" alternative salt (rock salt etc). But the lack of iodine caused more damage than I inticipated and coincidence or not, this is when my tests began to show some problems in regards to thyroid and cholesterol....although my 'good" cholesterol was excellent, the bad apparently was a concern. I am personally unsure how much I buy into this good/bad anyway, but there you go. You may also find this article interesting regarding autism and a celebrities son who has apparently healed from it after being treated for candida/mercury etc. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...son-recovered-from-autism.aspx?source=nlI do not know of anything that talks about mercury binding to cholesterol and getting into the brain..... when I was very mercury toxic, I had very LOW levels of cholesterol. I simply think mercury creates major imbalances and upsets ratios all over the place, blocks, displaces and poisons. Underactive/overactive, underweight/overweight, mercury has the potential to mess so many systems of the body up, considering it's action not only in the body, but in the brain (control centre).
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Re: Autistic child question about mercury
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04/25/08 09:16 PM
04/25/08 09:16 PM
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I have been studying the autism issue as well and I would agree very strongly with the replies you have received. There appears to be a tipping point with possibly a genetic component. There has been a lot of focus on the MMR vaccine, and that may be a biggie, but I think any vaccine can be the tipping point depending on the toxicity of the child. I believe even an unvaccinated child could have autism due to severe toxicity in utero. The Amish have very few cases of autism which I believe shows a strong correlation with vaccines as they are typically not vaccinated. Perhaps those few cases are children who were toxic enough even without the vaccines to cause a problem. I think that mercury is the prime offender but that other toxins may play a role either on their own or in combination with mercury. I believe that ADD and ADHD are related to autism - perhaps a lesser degree of toxicity or perhaps reaching the tipping point at a later age when there has already been more significant brain development. I have two autistic spectrum nephews on my husband's side (one with Aspergers). Both of the their mothers have silver fillings and one of them has had candida issues since she was 16. Her first boy is healthy, but her second has Aspergers. She chose not to vaccinate her third, and she is healthy. Why was the second son affected while the others are not? Perhaps his mother was more toxic, perhaps she had dental work done while pregnant, perhaps she ate more fish, perhaps he was exposed to more lead in toys. It is hard to say what exactly made the difference. But I do think her youngest was saved from health problems by her decision not to vaccinate her. I also agree that candida and other gut issues play a starring role in autism. One of those two nephews came to visit recently and I discovered that he has chronic constipation, heartburn, and other gastrointestinal problems. Antibiotics may play a role - you could have two children with the same exact toxic load and if one has several rounds of antibiotics as a baby - perhaps that could make the difference - the antibiotics altering the gut flora and causing more severe candida issues - yet, another strain on the immune system. I know in my own experience with mercury toxicity, each round of antibiotics (which is what the doctors used initially with every mercury symptom I had) caused a marked decline in my health. I had a long list of symptoms, but something I didn't even realize at the time was that I was having difficulty finding words and frequently losing my train of thought. I thought I was just distracted by my three boys, but that has really gone away since I had my fillings out. I am calling them by their proper names the first time. None of my boys are autistic, but they all have some minor focus issues and difficulty staying on task at school. My youngest has developed food allergies, has frequent gastritis, and is carbohydrate intolerant. He has hand tremors and some minor hyperactivity which seems to come on when he has gastrointestinal problems. I believe I had an amalgam filling removed when I was pregnant with him (and I had major mercury toxicity symptoms during the last few months of my pregnancy). He then had his first round of antibiotics at one month old (apparently if a baby under two months develops a fever it is standard to do a spinal tap and treat with antibiotics for meningitis - which he did not have). I believe all of this played a role in his health problems.
I would agree too that the high cholesterol is probably the symptom rather than the cause. I do find it curious though that they all have high cholesterol since they are adopted - are they all adopted from different mothers? Were they all adopted at birth? If so, I wonder if there is some common toxic exposure at home that would cause raised cholesterol levels. My two nephews on the autism spectrum do not have high cholesterol levels, but my brother's two children (who are extremely well focused and above grade level performers) do have elevated cholesterol levels. I read a great book called 'Detoxify or Die' by Dr. Sherry Rogers that started me on my path to regaining my health. I believe that she wrote about raised cholesterol levels due to pesticide exposure (among other possibilities). I am looking into this as my brother has monthly pest control in his home.
I don't think there is an easy answer to the why's, but you are on the right track for your children by seeking out answers. Best of luck to you all.
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