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Raw garlic!
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06/25/08 01:58 AM
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Re: Raw garlic!
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06/26/08 02:39 AM
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It will also be increasing the sulfur inside your body, which is depleted/displaced by mercury. And apparently garlic does have some ability to mobilise mercury. Some may not tolerate it, but others can find it a great help. In fact, one biologic dentist here recommends garlic to his mercury detox patients to aid them in getting rid of mercury. he believes that the garlic actually does somethign to the mercury, changes it to allow it to become a more excretable form. I am unsure how true this is.
My doctor, who is also a specialist, recommends garlic to enhance sulfur stores to her mercury detox patients, before using a chelating agent, as she believes it helps enhance the chelation as well.
When I was mercury toxic, garlic was great for me with amalgams. However, it was too powerful for me when I had no amalgams, as my body was now in "detox mode" and garlic was too potent a mover of mercury for me to handle. It bounced it around too much, and my elimination systems were obviously not able to handle it.
If you feel good with garlic, it really maybe very beneficial for you with mercury for many reasons. I just cannot handle the stuff these days. I once could and it was great for yeast and caused die off too. Now it just makes me feel yuck and really doesn't seem to help me at all, no matter what I do.
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Re: Raw garlic!
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06/26/08 09:15 AM
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JK98,
I think you are right!
I'd read that garlic is known to change the mercury into liquid form so that the body can get rid of it easier. It has lots of anti fungal agents, kills some parasites, and provides sulfur which mercury robes you of.
I've been taking it for a few weeks now and did pass some black seed like things. At first I didn't feel well with taking it, but now it makes me feel good.
I was taking MSM without any Algin or Chorella, but just read that it can stir up the mercury if there is nothing to carry it out. I didn't have any effect of mercury redistributing with it. I'm going to wait some and let my body do as much as it can slowly. I'm feeling really good most days. Not no where near 100%, but it's a huge improvement compared to being a prisoner and couldn't go out much with out all these snacks and water every 30 min., not to mention all the aches and pains I had. Some of the aches come and go, but not half as bad as they were before. I'd read that if the liver is backed up with fat it could cause arthritis. I was wondering, if mercury has the liver bogged down would that cause the liver not to function and get backed up with fat or could the mercury back up cause the same effect as fat? Anyone know?
I'm going to enjoy this little bit of healthy feeling until Summers over then I will start some sort of chelating.
Bann
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Re: Raw garlic!
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06/26/08 09:27 AM
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One other note about the MSM and redistributing it if you aren't doing anything to excrete it. It can cause cataracts in the eyes. I have been feeling hazy like vision while taking it.. I'm going to wait on that one until I'm chelating.
Bann
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Re: Raw garlic!
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06/26/08 10:32 PM
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JK98 >>>I have not seen any that say MSM causes cataracts.>>>>>> I found this information about MSM and cautions about cateracts. Go down to the minerals and MSM http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C586629.htmlBann <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/byebye.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Raw garlic!
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06/26/08 11:05 PM
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Bex,
I'm just going by something I'd read on the Diagnose-Me: Treatment: MSM Mercury site.
Bann <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Raw garlic!
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06/27/08 02:14 AM
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Hi Bann, thanks for the link and I checked it out and it's certainly a surprise. Though I'm aware of the problems created by mobilisation of mercury without proper tight bonding/chelation/removal, I had no idea there was any danger in possibly getting (reversible) cataracts.
They are also not just referring to MSM, but any high sulfur food/supplement, garlic, onions, eggs, etc etc. It's just sulfur bounces mercury around more and I guess the mercury can get into the eyes perhaps and cause problems. I have had this myself I believe, but luckily never got anything like that.
Sulfur is fine, healthy stuff, but mercury is the problem. I guess it makes Cutler's protocol even more appealing when you hear stuff like this. However, again, some do wonderfully on sulfur and do not experience the massive symptoms associated with wild mobilising of mercury. I'd say it will come down to the person's own reaction as to whether they can handle high sulfur intake or they need to reduce it substantially in order to control symptoms.
Even Andy I think said something about how there can be a lot of mercury present, but the body can do it's best to store it in the best places possible. however, it has been noted that you can give such a person a potent sulfur food/supplement and they can become suddenly acutely poisoned, due to the sudden wild bouncing around of that once more safely stored mercury, which can then enter sensitive areas and REALLY make them ill.
So it's again, highly individual as to how one will respond. Personally I do not see much point in taking unnecessary risks and overdoing the sulfur regardless. But if you try a bit and you feel fine or even better, then you maybe ok to increase. People like myself had to watch the sulfur and I reduced it when I was very toxic because I got so horribly ill from moving mercury around after I had high sulfur foods/supplements. Nasty reactions. Not that I felt ok anyway, but there was no doubt about the dramatic increase in symptoms after consuming sulfur foods/supplements. I would literally go into a terrible state of detox symptoms and cry and salivate and the rest of it. Then the reaction would die down after much agony. I am certain a bit of metals came out in that process, but I believe it was very risky to me and I do not know whether damage was done at the time either.
Bottom line is, you know yourself better than anybody and my big mistake was doing something because I was TOLD it was right and I tried very hard to keep going, regardless of the horrific symptoms I had. Everytime I stopped because I had to, I felt a failure. Now I look back and then you can only handle as much mercury movement as you can handle and you maybe taking small doses and lots of breaks. There is no one hard fast rule for this and never ever push yourself to continue when you are in a serious way. I cannot imagine what i may have done to myself because of this. I just wanted to please other people by saying I stuck to the regime, I stuck to the dose etc. In hindsight, I should have adapted the dose to my own needs and taken the breaks when I needed to, NOT what OTHERS wanted me to do regardless of my agony.
I had some professionals push me to continue and even insulted me when I could not keep going and had to keep stopping. They would then make out the problems were in my own mind, and it was MY issues, not the mercury. Simpy because I had too many problems sticking to their protocol.
Cutler's was without a doubt, the best and safest I could manage.
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Re: Raw garlic!
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06/27/08 10:04 PM
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Bex,
Thank you for letting us know to go at our own pace. I don't get any symptoms of being ill when I take the MSM, but my eyes have this weird thing going on. I notice it when I swim mostly. There are hazy things that are on the outer lens of my eye. When I move my eye ball back and forth it stays still.. so I don't know what it is. I noticed it before taking MSM, but the other day it worsened. I didn't know why.
Thank you for being so sweet and going into detail for us newbies... It really helps us to hear things that have gone wrong for you, so that we can learn from it too... Thank you for sharing! Bann
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Re: Raw garlic!
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06/27/08 11:56 PM
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Hi Bann,
Thanks for your kind post!
Yeah, going at ones own pace is a hard lesson to learn. Hindsight is a great thing. I messed up many times with many different things. Too easy to hurt yourself when dealing with mercury. It's the way that stuff works. I always hope in the body's ability to repair itself over time. I realise mercury can cause some permanent damage in certain cases, but I still believe that health can be improved substantially even if there are some areas that have been injured.
I'm not sure what might be causing your eye issues, but I would be careful with the high sulfur stuff. Too much mobilisation can move the mercury everywhere. I had a greyish looking spot/splodge in my eye at one point. I used to see it clearly at times and it annoyed me a lot. It moved as my eye moved (of course, it was on the eye itself), so I coudln't really focus on it properly. I'd see it everywhere i looked. It faded over time though. I see it very faintly on occassion, but it's mostly gone. This occured after a lot of mercury mobilising and detoxing and me crying a lot. I guess whatever happened, whether mercury or so much crying caused that, but I don't know. I was about 27 at the time and that was in the midst of my WORST mercury poisoning/dumping stage. I was well and truly going through it then. It's when I used to sometimes be on the floor in some kind of mercury detox mess, screaming sometimes too. Hard to believe when I look back, but it was real. Fancy having to put yourself in a closet to stifle the screams, so the neighbours don't hear it as much? That's what I had to do. I can't figure out why I couldn't just stop screaming, but I'll never know how/why that happened. It was almost uncontrollable.
But that's the way my body handled it and tried to get it out. Weird I know, but I'll never understand that. Why could I not just pee it out or something? Why was there no normal elimination of it? That's what makes me think there is something badly screwed up with me that doesn't handle toxins normally. Crying, salivating and screaming is NOT a normal way to eliminate toxins, but that's the way the stuff tended to erupt. I always felt better after it, as though another layer had been removed. I had years of it though.
So, I can honesty relate to people who are mercury toxic now. Whether it's rashes over the skin, or depression, suicidal thoughts etc. The stuff had to come out somehow, but I made it much worse with random methods that honestly were risky.
Thanks again Bann and it's a pleasure to pass on anything I've learned from those mercury years to people goign through it now. In fact, for me? It makes it almost worthwhile in a strange way. That it's not completely wasted or for nothing.
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Re: Eye Floaters?
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07/11/08 05:23 PM
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Re: Eye Floaters?
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07/27/08 10:08 AM
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Hey Rick The liver being stagnant can affect the eyes. I would not put the packs on the eyes but over the liver area. When I was having so much trouble I had eye floaters real bad and alot of blurryness. I still get the blurry vision from time to time. When it happens I pull out the castor oil pack and put it over the liver area and sleep with it...cures the problem right up. There is also a eyebright tincture you can get from DR Schulze web sight that is very good for this problem. His tinctures are top stuff, he uses the best organic herbs and are the strongest I have come across. I have done his colon cleanse,liver and kidney flush all top notch. I could not handle milk thistle or dandilion until I did the liver flush now I take 2 pills a day just to give the liver a helping hand. Most excellent herbs for that. Castor oil packs are excellent for giving the liver a boost and can detox the liver if it is congested. Here are some links for ya on the castor oil packs, the liver and to Dr Schulze web sight. http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/dietarytherapy/a/CastorOilPack.htm http://www.shen-nong.com/eng/principles/liverfiveyinorgans.html https://web2.herbdoc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=38 Hope this helps you in some way it did wonders for me. Rachel
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Re: Eye Floaters?
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07/27/08 11:07 PM
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raw garlic is real good in salsa.
a whole bunch of raw garlic some cilantro and some jalapenos.
hhh hhh hhh HOT.
my stomach doesn't seem to mind at all but it does sometimes make my eyes water..
gosh I love that.
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Re: Eye Floaters?
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08/01/08 11:29 PM
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