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My progress after 8 months of chelation #37595
07/18/08 04:57 PM
07/18/08 04:57 PM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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Joined: Jul 2007
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London, UK *****
My progress after 8 months of chelation:

I have been amalgam free for 8 months:

I started chelation as per Andy Cutler Protocol 7 days after going amalgam
free and have done 19 rounds and am currently at 5mg DMSA every 2.5 hours in the day and 3
hours at night. Rounds are smooth, only have minor mild symptoms and
I can continue my life whilst on rounds. Mild and sometimes no
redistribution at the end of rounds. 3 days on 4 days off, then 3
days on 11 days off. ALA not tried yet. My gut instinct says wait
until I can increase the DMSA dose until I add ALA. I don't feel
that's possible yet….but it must be coming soon? I have tried
lengthening the rounds and it most certainly did not agree, not even
close. I have just reduced the time interval to 2.5 hours and reduced
the DMSA dose too, so don't feel I can increase the dose yet.

For the majority of last year my food allergies went crazy and I was
reduced to eating salad at breakfast, lunch and dinner for most of
the year…and that excluded sulphur foods and nightshades too. Last
year I was a physical and mental wreck......but now:

Dairy allergy – gone
Wheat allergy – gone
Gluten allergy - gone
Soya allergy – gone
Nightshade allergy – gone
Passive smoking allergy – gone
All processed food allergy – gone
Sulphur food problem – gone
Fruit allergy – much reduced and can tolerate 1-2 fruits a day, but
in small doses only and not too sweet.

Sugar problem – well I don't eat refined sugar ever so I have no
idea if that's a problem or not. I can handle a little honey these
days, but not tested it out properly. I'm ok in small doses only...

I used to have big problems with food additives, colourings, e-
numbers etc. I have no idea if I still have a problem with them as I
no longer knowingly eat that muck. Even though the allergy to
processed food is gone I still religiously avoid processed food, I do
occasionally eat white rice but I am fine with that now.

Multiple chemical sensitivities - still there a little, but much less
of a problem nowadays. Because I am aware of so many chemicals and
where they are…I avoid lots of them. My house has been totally
detoxed of chems….as soon as I find more they are removed…they are
hidden in the strangest of places! I do feel it in the office
sometimes but it's a much reduced problem. Tingling arms/hands/legs
remains but is much reduced too.

Chronic back problems and chronic back pain for 10 years – gone. I
still have a bad back….. but it is getting much better and I am no
longer in constant pain 24/7. Most days I don't think about my
back….which is wonderful.

Muscle weakness – this was an utter nightmare and its much reduced
now, but still an issue. 70pct better than it was.

After 4 years of zero exercise/yoga I have restarted working out
again. I felt like a rusty hinge at the beginning but the more I do,
the looser I get. 4 years ago when I was forced to stop all exercise,
any exercise wiped me out. Now….i am actually getting better when I
work out. I do need to take it easy and go slow. Yoga is perfect.

Chronic heartburn – gone. I do get some on rounds of DMSA but I know
all the tricks to make it go away now.

Chronic fatigue – much better. Adrenals on-line now and seem to be
working….thank you ACE. Thyroid support in place….this is taking some
time and it is still don't have masses of extra energy. My temps are
stable now but consistently low. When I chelate my temps no longer
drop. This is a marathon not a sprint, the program I have for this is
working slowly but surely. Would be nice if this would speed up, but
I'm patient…overall I am a zillion times better than I was….since
learning about adrenals and thyroids…I have obviously had issues my
whole life and its gonna take time to sort out.

Memory – getting slightly better but short term memory still plays
tricks on me.

All in all my life is getting back on track now. I no longer need to
focus so intensely on my health, I am no longer in constant pain and
brain fog has lifted….I am 39 years old and I can live a little now.
I have read a wealth of information and books in the past 18 months
and I have revolving system of chelation as per Cutler protocol and
cleansing going on all the time. All my cleansing is herbal or uses
natural methods only and I use no man made gunk. I tried dropping my
man made supplements but the adrenals suffered immediately so I still
take the supps as per Cutler.

So…..what do I think caused this turnaround in my health? Because it
is a glorious turnaround for sure…last year was a nightmare.

Well obviously amalgam removal was important, ditto chelation. I'd
love to say it was just the 19 rounds of chelation that did it.
BUT….it wasn't JUST because of the chelation. Its helped…100pct chelation has helped. I know I will not get better without
chelation…but getting the mercury out is gonna take a couple of years
and my drastic improvement in health is down to everything that I
have done COLLECTIVELY. I have been hard at work body cleansing in
every-which-way I can. Individually each cleanse and each chelation
round has helped a little bit. Chelation actually makes me feel worse
and I feel great when I break from chelation to do a month long
cleanse.

I have a rotating program of cleansings that goes like this:
30 days parasite cleanse which includes bowel cleansing herbs too
from Humaworm(HW)
Wait 90 days then do another 30 days parasite cleanse(HW)
In those 90 days in-between I do bowel cleasing, herbal liver
cleansings, herbal kidney cleansing, herbal Lung cleanse.
I also regularly do castor oil packs, dry skin brushing, oil massage
and my diet is 90pct organic and zero processed foods and zero
pasteurised dairy. I regularly drink veg juices and often have liquid
veg juice meals and have done some veg juice fasts.

Basically I am doing some type of cleanse all the time and chelation
fits in between everything. I try hard not to do too many things
together, but its tricky to fit everything in, so some things do
overlap. When I over-do it, which I must admit I do sometimes…I break
until I recovered and restart…but only takes a couple of days.

I have researched and done all the cleanses….and the only one I avoid
now is liver flushing (with olive oil and grapefruit)…Andy Cutler is
correct …after 10 flushes I know its way too heavy duty….and beside
the alternatives are much more civilised!

Each cleanse I feel some improvements. I would say the parasite
cleansing and Bowel cleansing has led to the biggest gains in my
health ….but one parasite cleanse is not enough. My body got totally
and utterly clogged up and after 18 months of furious detoxing I am
now finally getting better. I been bowel cleansing lots, at least 150
days in the last 10 months alone, and I still get gunk called mucoid
plaque coming outta me…I am continually amazed at the amount of
toxins in me. Its taken a long time to clean me out, but because I
been at this hardcore for 10 months, (and 18 months overall) always detoxing in some
form….now…..i am reaping the rewards and getting better.

The mercury is still in me. My tolerance to DMSA remains low but all
the cleaning out of my body has help tremendously make me cleaner
inside so that my mercury compromised organs have less toxins to
worry about. I don't really understand why my tolerance to DMSA
remains so low when I am continually regaining my health and feeling
so much better?? I guess it means chelation must continue long term
removing the stored mercury and the cleanses I have done have cleared
out the backlog of toxins stuck in me?

I plan on chelating & cleansing for as long as possible until I reach
optimum health. I learned a lot and it's a cool goal for me to aim
for. I guess I'm half way there now…so hopefully only 1.5 years
chelating and cleanses to go.

My only concern is the dreaded mercury dump 6-12 months post amalgam
removal. I am 8 months amalgam free now. Everything Andy C has said
so far has turned out just as he said it would, so I see no reason
why I will avoid it…but I might! Not everyone gets it and I may be
lucky! Nothing I can do about it anyway so I don't worry about
it….but it does drive me forwards and is a strong motivator for me to
continue Chelating and doing all the cleanses. I find the cleanses
much easier now. at first I had some pretty amazing die-offs and
incredible healing crisis's but now…..i get a few minor symptoms and
then feel better without fail. I did a 2 week herbal lung cleanse
last month and was rewarded with a much improved brain….mentally
sharper. Will probably have to do some more lung cleansing herbs
because 2 weeks is probably not enough time to right 20 years of me
smoking.

I did think long and hard about typing this up, I don't want to tempt
fate with the dread mercury dump…but…its nice to be getting better
and I have learned so much from my friends here on herb allure….i know its encouraging to
read of people getting better….and I most certainly am. Long may it continue:-)

Sunshine


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: Sunshine P] #37650
07/18/08 09:50 PM
07/18/08 09:50 PM
Jeanie  Offline
Master Elite Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,146
The great USA ***
This is so cool!!!!!!!!!!! I am hereby inspired to chelate again....I am going to print this if that's ok.. YES!!!!!!!


"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as if everything is." Albert Einstein
Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: Jeanie] #37651
07/18/08 09:54 PM
07/18/08 09:54 PM
Jeanie  Offline
Master Elite Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,146
The great USA ***
I think, as with everything, I went too whole hog when i tried to chelate. Too fast...too high dosage. Strained my kidneys too much. I do that with exercising, too. Slow and steady....

I am so encouraged by your alleviation of pain!! Thank you for sharing! So you work doing this???

I definitely did the mercury dump or what I was calling "hitting the wall." My amalgams are long gone, though, now.




"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as if everything is." Albert Einstein
Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: Jeanie] #37660
07/18/08 10:45 PM
07/18/08 10:45 PM
G
gdawson6  Offline
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Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 497 *****
You seem like you are working very hard to get better sunshine...and its paying off. Keep it up and someday you may feel healthier than you can ever remember!

Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: Sunshine P] #37688
07/19/08 09:37 AM
07/19/08 09:37 AM
angelbaby26  Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 83
NM *****
Congratulations Sunshine! I am so very happy that you are feeling much better. Reading a summary of what you have experienced for the last 18 months is truly and inspiration to me and I'm sure others. It gives me hope that I too will someday be feeling like my old self again. As I have said before you're advice and experience sharing has been invaluable to me. Thanks for keeping us updated on how things are going with you! I am so inspired and looking forward to being where you are at someday!

As for how I have been progressing. I am now 5 months post amalgam removal and as I have mentioned before have been using Extreme Health USA Detox (Toxic Heavy Metals Plus) Oral chelation II/Ageless II for the past 7 months. It contains a proprietary blend of chorella, garlic, cilantro and alpha lipoic acid, to name a few things that work to chelate and help detox the heavy metals out. I have still not started the DMSA or done any of the other Humaworm cleanses (lung, liver and kidney) because I don't feel my body is ready to handle them quite yet. I am working on bowel cleansing and castor oil packs which have made a big difference. (Thanks for the tips by the way!) I am still taking cortef to help support my adrenals which has also made a difference in my sleep patterns. I feel my thyroid is a bit sluggish and that may be one of the reasons I don't feel so great. I think I need to start supporting my thyroid.

But, I am so glad I am feeling much better since my first Humaworm/Humacleanse round and I am very excited to start again in about a month in a half. I am scheduled for a colonic soon and plan to try a very low dose DMSA chelation as well. If I can tolerate that I will continue doing rounds and try one the cleanses after my next round of Humaworm/Humacleanse. I am still doing the magnetic clay baths and those have helped me a great deal as well. It has been a long journey for me in the past 8 months since discovering what could possibly causing my health problems ans symptoms but this forum has truly been a Godsend and Sunshine it is people like you who keep it going! Thanks again!

Angelbaby26
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Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: angelbaby26] #37702
07/19/08 03:34 PM
07/19/08 03:34 PM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
Master Elite Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,597
London, UK *****
I promise you it’s a great feeling to be getting better, and I wish with all my heart all my friends here feel it too someday soon. I been doing real good for about 3 months now , which is why I don’t hang around herballure so much anymore. Its strange to be getting better, I want to talk about it, but at the same time I don’t want to tempt fate and go back to $hitsville again. But, I know how I feel when I read of others getting better…..always gives me so much hope to know people do actually get better from this nightmare. I am not out the woods yet though, that post-amalgam removal mercury dump could hit me any day…..but for now life is good so I’m gonna enjoy it bit while I can. All the cleanses I will continue doing….i can do them with my eyes closed standing on my head now anyway. They are easy peasy lemon squeezy. All that reading and research has paid off big time.

Hi Jeanie

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Strained my kidneys too much
You should check out a herbal kidney cleanse. They are great. Worked a treat for me.

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Too fast...too high dosage.
yes the temptation is to go full steam ahead. As you can see I am a man of action and it has been tricky to hold back from increasing the dose…but every minor transgression I make when chelating, missing a dose or extending the round….anyway hurts like hell…..pain is a powerful teacher and luckily I do learn from my mistakes.

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So you work doing this???
Yes. Amazingly I did not get sacked last year. I was in the office physically….but mentally I was on mars! I have come back down to earth now and my work is picking up again.

Hi Gdawson….
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You seem like you are working very hard to get better sunshine...and its paying off. Keep it up and someday you may feel healthier than you can ever remember!
yes, hard work…and for a long time I just got worse…8 months I just got sicker and sicker…but then I turned the corner and it’s been upwards from then. plenty of 2 steps forward and 1 step back.

Hi Angelbaby…. highfivethanks for the praise. Glad you are moving forwards too. Yes Humaworm is amazing..it keeps cleaning me out, cleaning me out and cleaning me out….and I just keep getting better because of those herbs. Lung cleanse gave excellent results. I’m doing the liver cleanse now….half way through and almost no side effects…had racing heart moment today, a very mild sore throat last night….. but otherwise its been plain sailing.
Next is 30 days bowel cleanse, after that 30 days kidney cleanse, after that Parasite cleanse number 4….always look forward to the parasite cleanses….was when I turned the corner. I will chelate often during the bowel and kidney cleanse because I have done so much of them I get little/no die off & side effects from them now.

Take care everyone, I hope you all enjoy that feeling of healing.




"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: Sunshine P] #37707
07/19/08 05:42 PM
07/19/08 05:42 PM
Bex  Offline
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Great to hear from you again Sunshine and so good you are continuing to make some steady progress. I know full well what it's like to feel you're tempting "fate" if you talk about getting better, I went through all that. And unfortunately with mercury, it does bring you down again, becuase more surfaces to get excreted. And the same feelings come along with it. Keep on keeping on. I want you to be a success story, as with everybody else here.

IT saddens me to see how some others haven't always made such steady progress, even with their efforts. But I always hope for them, in time, improvements will be made. Sometimes there is more going on that mercury perhaps in some people who have multiple issues to try and live with.

Sunshine, have you ever tried "Heels detox kit"? I know you are very much into cleanses and I have used this before and out of any cleanse I used, this was the most successful I believe. It also encourages metal elimination, as well as other toxins, plus helps the body system/organs also to do their job better. It is a combination of lymph, liver, kidney cleanse in one. Now normally, homeopathy never worked with me in the past much (if at all), but for some reason this was different. You add about 30 drops of each bottle to a 1.5 litre bottle of clean water and drink throughout the day and see if you can do this for a few weeks. They recommend doing this once or twice per year.

It has worked for me before and when I was mercury toxic, it detoxed a LOT of metals out of me, but I had to be careful and lower the drops and often I could not stay on it for as long as recommended. TOo much metal detox at that time. I just did it in fits and starts, when I could.

It has also helped me out of toxic situations (when I had some new exposure) and this kit has, a few times, almost saved me! In my condition, not a heck of a lot is effective these days, but this stuff came about as close as it got to doing something. I may have to get it again and try some. Doesn't "always" do much, depends what the problem is I guess.

You may need to start with just 10 drops and increase later as you handle the elimination of toxins. It seems to get tissues/organs, the whole deal. You maybe happy enough on what you are try, but in case you felt like trying something different, I'd recommend it.

Cheers smile

Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: Sunshine P] #37721
07/20/08 07:44 AM
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Hi Sunshine, this is very encouraging, especially to new members here. The key is dedication and thats what you have.
Dawn.

Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: dawn] #37724
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Sunshine, was there a time in your life when you were really healthy without any complications? Just wondering...

Feeling healthy is definitely a new experience for me, even though I have a good way to go, as the dentist got to me when I was a little boy and I've been a little off my entire life, and could always feel it. At 1 1/2 years old I went down a slide head first and messed up my front teeth and had to get a partial plate. I also had asthma and really bad allergies until I was 16 and gave up all white sugar and soda. I think my asthma may have just been a chemical sensitivity though.


Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: gdawson6] #37732
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Sunshine P  Offline OP
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Sunshine, was there a time in your life when you were really healthy without any complications?


nope, i never been proper healthly...i never looked like Tarzan!

i complicated things by drinking furiously, smoking, terrible diet, then soft, then hard drugs....none of these things made me any healtier! Had great fun though. paying the price now, but....was a most excellent life style i had. makes me wince the things i used to do.....

so yeah, health is a new experience for me too...i been trying hard to regain it for 10 years....but only in the last 8 months did i halt the dive and start healing and getting better again. i still have some way to go too.







"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: Sunshine P] #37854
07/23/08 12:51 AM
07/23/08 12:51 AM
Jeanie  Offline
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I keep asking....Do you UK folk like Paul Rogers? (Bad Company the band) My husband is a musician and always talking about all these British rockers. We saw Paul here about a year ago, but he saw him early on in his career when he was with Free which is when he also started out a little after that . The husband lived the life, but I think most of us come around to feeling our mortality and feel the need for change (or die....my brother did last year - very very heavy smoker and drinker, etc.). The important thing is that, now, you are doing everything you can to repair and build your health! Some of us just eat too much or the wrong things. We all have areas and ways we need improvement.


"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as if everything is." Albert Einstein
Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: Jeanie] #37883
07/23/08 12:03 PM
07/23/08 12:03 PM
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Hey Sunshine
Sounds like your doing really well. I am doing good too. Still cleansing, taday I am a bit puney but am doing kidney cleanse and decided to throw a few colon cleanse pills in there too. Not as bad as I thought it would be. The cleanses are getting easier and easier though. I am going to try a few rounds of chelation after this and see what happens...I amso ready for this to be gone but I will be moving very slow. I hate the pain and slow is better. Good to see you are moving right along. Life looks livable again.


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Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: skieslimit] #37891
07/23/08 02:12 PM
07/23/08 02:12 PM
Sunshine P  Offline OP
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I never heard of Pual Rogers.

Hi Skies, good you hear from ya, glad its going well. yes....the cleanses do get easier and easier. tomorrow is my last day of my herbal liver cleanse from HW and it was plain sailing, just very mildly under the weather for a couple of hours on a couple of days...but really plain sailing.
Then i will do a chelation round starting tomorrow. Round 20.

Take care


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."

Sunshine
Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: Sunshine P] #37912
07/24/08 09:49 AM
07/24/08 09:49 AM
skieslimit  Offline
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Is the liver flush from huma worm? I am wanting an easier cleanse. The one I have been doing is ok, nice and easy but hard to work while doing it. Also you have been using their colon cleanse too and have gotten all that gunk and the one I am using is not bringing that result, good but not that. I am so sure I have some of the gunk, I have had bathroom problems for 13 years so I would think I would also have this gunk hiding somewhere too. Guess ya wanted to know that huh? LOL Let me know about the huma worm and is that where you are getting the liver flush from...how hard is it. This one I am doing is very good but requires juice fasting and I just don't do well on the fast, I break everytime. I wish I could hang with it but very hard for me.
Anyways good luck on the next round. Talk later and it was good to hear from ya too. Hope mom baby and sis are all doing great. Must be so wonderful for you after all this illness.


A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.
Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: skieslimit] #38382
07/30/08 09:44 PM
07/30/08 09:44 PM
glancina  Offline
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Here's the link to Humaworm other cleanses....

http://www.humaworm.com/cleansers.html


Gabriella

Step by step, that's how you achieve success.
Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: Sunshine P] #40722
08/26/08 01:45 PM
08/26/08 01:45 PM
sunflower  Offline
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Hi Sunshine,
I am delighted to see you doing so well :-)
I have not been here for a while but have been doing so much better too.
I hope you continue to heal,you have put so much work into your health,the most dedicated of us all,I think.
take care.x

Re: My progress after 8 months of chelation [Re: skieslimit] #40756
08/26/08 08:42 PM
08/26/08 08:42 PM
Jeanie  Offline
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SkiesLimit,
Have you ever looked into the fat flush plan? Its a little easier than out and out fasting. I use to be a pro at that, but haven't attempted it since working again after 15 years not working. (I was spoiled I realize now...not that there was ever enough money, really, but it was a blessing to be able to stay home with my kids). It is very low carb and is all about liver and colon flushing..., etc. (and you happen to lose weight in the process, I guess it gets more hits the way its marketed).

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