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Obama: The Muslim connections #44326
10/29/08 06:07 PM
10/29/08 06:07 PM
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Obama's unsavoury ties:

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One watches with dismay as Democratic candidate Barack Obama manages to hide the truth on his longstanding, if indirect ties to two institutions: the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), listed by the US government in 2007 as an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas-funding trial; and the Nation of Islam (NoI), condemned by the Anti-Defamation League for its "consistent record of racism and anti-Semitism."


First, Obama's ties to Islamists:

• The Khalid al-Mansour connection: According to former Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton, Mansour "was raising money for" Obama's expenses at Harvard Law School. Mansour, a black American (né Don Warden), became adviser to Saudi prince Al-Walid bin Talal, CAIR's largest individual donor. Mansour holds standard Islamist views: He absolves the Islamist government in Sudan of sponsoring slavery, he denies a Jewish tie to Jerusalem and he wrote a booklet titled "Americans Beware! The Zionist Plot Against S. Arabia." (Both Obama and Mansour deny Sutton's account.)

• The Kenny Gamble (also known as Luqman Abdul-Haqq) connection: Gamble, a once-prominent pop music producer, cut the ribbon to the Obama campaign headquarters housed in a South Philadelphia building he owns. Gamble is an Islamist who buys large swaths of real estate in Philadelphia to create a Muslim-only residential area. Also, as the self-styled "amir" of the United Muslim Movement, he has many links to Islamist organizations, including CAIR and the Muslim Alliance in North America. (MANA's "amir" is Siraj Wahhaj, an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.)

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• The Mazen Asbahi connection: The Obama campaign's first Muslim outreach coordinator resigned after it came to light that he had served on the board of a subsidiary of the Saudi-sponsored North American Islamic Trust, with Jamal Said, another unindicted co-conspirator in the 2007 Hamas funding trial. Asbahi has ties to CAIR's Chicago and Detroit offices, to the Islamic Society of North America, yet another unindicted co-conspirator in the Hamas funding trial, and to other Islamist organizations.

• The Minha Husaini connection: The campaign's second Muslim outreach coordinator has an Islamist background, having served as an intern in the Muslim Public Service Network. Immediately upon her appointment by Obama, she met with a group of about 30 Muslims including such notorious figures as CAIR's Nihad Awad; the Muslim American Society's Mahdi Bray, who has publicly supported Hamas and Hizbullah; and Johari Abdul Malik of the Dar al-Hijrah Mosque in Falls Church, Virginia, who has advised American Muslims: "You can blow up bridges, but you cannot kill people who are innocent on their way to work."


SECOND, OBAMA's ties to the Nation of Islam:

Obama's long-time donor and ally Antoin "Tony" Rezko partnered for nearly three decades with Jabir Herbert Muhammad, a son of NoI leader Elijah Muhammad, and says he gave Jabir and his family "millions of dollars over the years." Rezko also served as executive director of the Muhammad Ali Foundation, a rogue organization that, without Ali's permission, exploited the name of this CAIR awardee.

Jeremiah Wright, Obama's esteemed pastor for 20 years, came out of a Nation background. Recently he accepted protection from an NoI security detail, and has praised Louis Farrakhan, the NoI's leader, as one of the "giants of the African American religious experience." Wright's church celebrated Farrakhan for his having "truly epitomized greatness."

Farrakhan himself endorsed Obama, calling him "the hope of the entire world," "one who can lift America from her fall," and even "the messiah."
That Obama's biography touches so frequently on such unsavory organizations as CAIR and the Nation of Islam should give pause. How many of politicians have a single tie to either group, much less seven of them?

The writer is director of the Middle East Forum and Taube distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution of Stanford University.
www.DanielPipes.org


Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Bex] #44328
10/29/08 06:09 PM
10/29/08 06:09 PM
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Yep.....really really scary and will affect more than just America, I fear....


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Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Jeanie] #44331
10/29/08 06:16 PM
10/29/08 06:16 PM
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I hear you Jeanie. Could well be the beginnings of something coming to the whole world....I think you know what I'm referring to!

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Bex] #44352
10/30/08 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bex
I hear you Jeanie. Could well be the beginnings of something coming to the whole world....I think you know what I'm referring to!
Yes it is, I truly feel it is just what you said above... We all know what you are referring too, if we open our eyes.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Sean] #44353
10/30/08 01:58 AM
10/30/08 01:58 AM
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It'll be interesting how it starts Sean. Could be the very beginnings or leading up to them. I'm actually looking for signs of peace, a false peace treaty at some point, which will be one of the signs. Perhaps Obama may not be THE main player, but a lead up.....

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Bex] #44699
11/05/08 02:34 AM
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Obama our new USA president, I saw alot cheering and crying like the world saw Jesus and it's time for change, I just sat there and nearly cried and said OMG how you guys don't know... I guess I don't either, but I think alot deeper than others do by any means, I see a bad change coming from him and elites.... I am scared to death now tonight, seriously I am scared and I don't know why.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Sean] #44811
11/06/08 08:28 PM
11/06/08 08:28 PM
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Hi Sean,

Well, I'm not an American, but I personally see worldwide consequences. America was blessed by God to be a strength/example to all nations. But frankly Sean, consider the worldwide increase of sin and indifference to God and His commandments? They're treated now like a joke, if anything, they're encouraged, popularised, glamorised and embraced. Perhaps we get what we deserve? I don't mean individually, but collectively?

I personally feel Sean, that we will incur exactly what is deserved by the election of this President. The Christans/Catholics that have given their big part in the election victory for Obama, in full knowledge of the beliefs this man holds that are contrary to God....I'd not like to consider the consequences. Unless it was done so in ignorance of some of those things - however is ignorance excusable when one has means to find the information?

Sometimes God may use evil to bring us to our knees. Since the majority have asked for this? That's exactly what they will get. Time will tell, but I think it is wise to focus on Christ and get our own lives right in preparation for what maybe to come. Even if it isn't what I think it is, we ought to treat each day as our possible last and prepare to meet our God.

If we put our hope or despair in man or the government, our emotions will be thrown all over the place. Let us put our hope and trust in God who never fails, since we already know the ultimate victory. The getting there however maybe very painful and in keeping with what the world deserves and may seriously need. I do not speak here of the innocent/victims who do NOT deserve the consequences of another's evil. I refer to those as victim souls/sacrifices.

Christ did not deserve it either! Let us not forget that, but hope also in the victory!

I recommend reading these links Sean! This is a lesson for us all to put our hope in Christ, rather than any leader! (make sure your sound is working, the commentary is good).

'PRESIDENT OBAMA COULD OVERTURN MARRIAGE AMENDMENTS'

OBAMA RIPPED FOR 'UNHOLY BOND' WITH ABORTION INDUSTRY

(check the links contained in this link to read more).
DEMOCRATS VIEW PRO-LIFE AS WINNING LABEL

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Bex] #44828
11/07/08 05:05 AM
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^^^^ I don't put my faith in any man, I told some at work today that he will not save the world nor is worth crying over and this and that, he is not Jesus he is one man, why are you guys acting like Jesus came back to save us with Obama, read this below from the Illuminati page I read....

Those who believe in the Book of Revelation in the King James version of the Holy Bible and other religious and/or superstitious People are being intentionally led into "millenium fever" so that they will offer no opposition to the new world order while they calmly await the workings of what they believe is the hand of God. After all, Who can oppose the bringing to fruition of the inspired prophetic Revelation of God? Apparently these People don't even read or understand the teachings of the Bible they purport to follow. The Bible says, paraphrased but accurate, that when you think he is coming he won't be here. The Bible says he will come like a thief in the night... even the elect will be fooled. Why do you think their plan calls for a charismatic world leader to be presented to the world as the Messiah?

Who does that sound like to you? The Charismatic guy who will be presented to the world as the messiah? I might be wrong but that sounds like him to me right? I mean I need to find Jesus now and FAST for this, I am seriously awake now and turned on to things I have not been before, coincidence? I think not, but maybe I am wrong and he is going to do well, but his cult following just scares me, people crying as if Jesus came back and treating it like that! I am seriously scared now, the world is dumb IMO.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Sean] #44831
11/07/08 07:13 AM
11/07/08 07:13 AM
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^^^^ I don't put my faith in any man, I told some at work today that he will not save the world nor is worth crying over and this and that, he is not Jesus he is one man, why are you guys acting like Jesus came back to save us with Obama, read this below from the Illuminati page I read....


Jesus told us we would not know the hour or the day, but he told us to take note of the signs of the times and be ready! The bible lists all the signs that would occur before the second coming of Christ and it seems, they are already here! And unfolding in further speed and intensity.

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Those who believe in the Book of Revelation in the King James version of the Holy Bible and other religious and/or superstitious People are being intentionally led into "millenium fever" so that they will offer no opposition to the new world order while they calmly await the workings of what they believe is the hand of God. After all, Who can oppose the bringing to fruition of the inspired prophetic Revelation of God? Apparently these People don't even read or understand the teachings of the Bible they purport to follow. The Bible says, paraphrased but accurate, that when you think he is coming he won't be here. The Bible says he will come like a thief in the night... even the elect will be fooled. Why do you think their plan calls for a charismatic world leader to be presented to the world as the Messiah?


For what it's worth, I feel that Obama may play a role in a "possible" lead up to what could well be a tribulation. I am not saying he is THE antichrist himself, but it will be interesting to see whether this man (and other leaders) maybe a valuable doorway through which such an ultimate world leader may arise....the stage has to be set for such a man and it seems to me, the world is ripe to embrace such a figure and accept him. How he goes about it, will be another story. Will we recognise him for who he is at the time? Or will we miss the real one until he has already established himself on the world stage to such an extent that he'll have a powerful influence and hold over our leaders. I almost wonder whether such a man will work behind the scenes and remain unrecognised until the blindfolds start falling off. Obama may simply be a useful instrument.

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Who does that sound like to you? The Charismatic guy who will be presented to the world as the messiah? I might be wrong but that sounds like him to me right? I mean I need to find Jesus now and FAST for this, I am seriously awake now and turned on to things I have not been before, coincidence? I think not, but maybe I am wrong and he is going to do well, but his cult following just scares me, people crying as if Jesus came back and treating it like that! I am seriously scared now, the world is dumb IMO.


Yes, it does sound compelling, particularly in the times we live in and the manner in which people have received and responded to him....I too saw them weeping and some in a state of near ecstacy.

I am sure the Antichrist, whoever he will be, will be a man that will arrive when the world is ripe for such a leader. A man of "peace". A man of "answers". Perhaps a charismatic figure with a power of speech that could convince even the most steadfast Christian (if they are not careful). Someone who will appear to have the answers to the world's problems - a "christlike" figure, taking the place of God and even performing counterfeit miracles! A man that will appear to "unite". Such a convincing man he'll be, that I suspect even the faithful will be curious and possibly moved by his speech, abilities/miracles - just as Eve was with the serpent.

Apparently he will set up a peace treaty. But it will be a false peace. Once this man is recognised for what he really is, and the scales fall down, he will no doubt be a tyrant so horrific, that he'll make Hitler look like a choir boy. I'd say that the tribulation will be a time, that will be the most dramatic and horrific time in human history. But we are not to fear, since the worse things get, the more we ought to raise our eyes and our hearts to heaven in the awaiting of Christ, who will come again to restore all things.

Whether this occurs in our times, or the not too distant future? I am not certain. It would indicate by the signs in the bible that we are indeed living in the end times, but again, only time will tell. However, it is no mystery that there is a battle going on daily and the increase and acceptance of sin on a worldwide scale is undeniable. Surely, with the abominations committed daily, being an affront to our God, there cannot be much time left to continue offending Him so grievously? His patience seems endless, but we know from the bible that there comes a time when God will act. There are only so many warnings before that day will come.

This is why God wants us to examine our lives, our consciences and uproot sin, so he can more fully live within us, and us within Him and should death take us by surprise, or these things come upon us, that we shall be ready to be received by Him. Since the reward of remaining faithful to God, is so great, as to be beyond our imagination. What temporary pleasure in this world is worth the loss of what Christ is preparing for those who love Him?

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Bex] #44844
11/07/08 04:10 PM
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Blessings to you Dear Bex!

Yes, this is, indeed, a very frightening time for the United States of America!

I feel like putting on sackcloth and sprinkling ashes on my head, as they did in the Old Testament when evil was recognized! So many of us Americans are very saddened over this new, soon-to-be, President -Barack Obama.

I quote from Isaiah 5:20 "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

What have we done??! We have elected a new President that plans to 'make a lot of changes', 'peace',etc, .....

"Woe unto them that call peace when there is no peace." We will only find peace when our Lord Jesus comes and takes His church, 'His people', out of here. Jesus is the Prince of peace!

Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

I just read on the Yahoo homepage that the great Evangelist Billy Graham, now 90 years old, is a registered Democrat and has always met with, and prayed for our new Presidents. As the article goes on to say, 'his health does not permit that at this time'. ALSO 'Mr. Graham DOES NOT agree with Obama's views on abortion and gay marriage!' Thank the LORD!

We must remember that "God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of love, power and a sound mind." That's not easy to do in these 'end times'. We must stay in His Word, the Bible, for strength, ESPECIALLY NOW!

It is my personal opinion (and other pastors ,Christians), that we ALREADY are living in the End Times.

Of course we read about the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, Post-Tribulation, and Mid-Tribulation Rapture of the Church. Well, whatever it is , and whenever it is, I pray we are ready to meet the Lord in the air when He comes!

Matthew 24:44 Jesus is speaking, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh." (KJV)

This is not a time to run and hide and stick our heads in the sand! This is a time for BIG TIME REPENTANCE and CALLING OUT FOR THE LORD'S MERCY! PRAY WITHOUT CEASING! (1 Thes.5:17)

I'm reminded of the story in the OT of JONAH -Chapter 3:5, "So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.....(after JONAH did as God said, and exposed their sin to them.)

I'm sure many won't agree with this, but I still must inform those of us who are Christians and await the return of our Saviour, King Jesus. He IS coming back, and "every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Him to be Lord."...even the UNbelievers. But it will be too late for them.(Phil 2:10-11).

This is so very very sad. Thank you, Bex for all the articles you collect, copy and paste, and the words you type here on this Message Board. You are a bright light in a dark corner to many people, myself included, for sure! God bless you, dear friend.

Revelations 22:20-21, "He which testifieth these things saith, "SURELY I COME QUICKLY." Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

May God bless America! Blessings, Abishag <><





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Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Abigail] #44846
11/07/08 05:47 PM
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Blessings to you Dear Bex!

Yes, this is, indeed, a very frightening time for the United States of America!

I feel like putting on sackcloth and sprinkling ashes on my head, as they did in the Old Testament when evil was recognized! So many of us Americans are very saddened over this new, soon-to-be, President -Barack Obama.

I quote from Isaiah 5:20 "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"


Blessings to you also Abishag.

Yes it is a frightening time. Perhaps through such, God will use this to chastise the nation/s. What a pity people have chosen him for their leader. What does that tell you about society on a whole? Thank God for the steadfast faithful, who through their sufferings/sacrifices (united with Christ) and their prayers, could be holding/delaying the inevitable. God's justice.

I agree with you about the sackcloth and ashes statement:

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What have we done??! We have elected a new President that plans to 'make a lot of changes', 'peace',etc, .....

"Woe unto them that call peace when there is no peace." We will only find peace when our Lord Jesus comes and takes His church, 'His people', out of here. Jesus is the Prince of peace!


Well, we could all very well suffer the consequences of electing somebody to lead the nation into accepting and making legal atrocities that God Himself has condemned....

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AS A MAN SOWS, SO SHALL HE REAP Hosea 10:12-141.


it's interesting that the man of perdition will come as a "peace maker" - fooling many.

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I just read on the Yahoo homepage that the great Evangelist Billy Graham, now 90 years old, is a registered Democrat and has always met with, and prayed for our new Presidents. As the article goes on to say, 'his health does not permit that at this time'. ALSO 'Mr. Graham DOES NOT agree with Obama's views on abortion and gay marriage!' Thank the LORD!


Very glad to hear it! I'd be surprised if he was pro the very things that God is against. He's been a warrior for Christ, a fearless preacher and someone I have admired for a long time. This man is an inspiration and one of my favourite preachers. The kind of guy who does not preach a prosperity gospel, but instead he preaches the cross - the truth. He speaks about sin. He doesn't tickle the ears of the listeners. He does not prance up an down a stage clad in fine clothes and jewellery with sparkling white teeth yelling and screaming and hyping up the audience into a frenzy for sheer entertainment value or for self ego purposes. He stands behind a plain podium in a suit and preaches the word exactly as it is. Those are the kinds of evangelists we need! Not only do they preach the hope of the second coming of Christ and the ressurection, but they are unafraid to preach about sin and Hell.

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It is my personal opinion (and other pastors ,Christians), that we ALREADY are living in the End Times.

Of course we read about the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, Post-Tribulation, and Mid-Tribulation Rapture of the Church. Well, whatever it is , and whenever it is, I pray we are ready to meet the Lord in the air when He comes!

Matthew 24:44 Jesus is speaking, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh." (KJV)


Yes, I too am uncertain about the timing of the rapture, but I have no doubts about it. And it could happen anytime and we must be ready.

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I'm sure many won't agree with this, but I still must inform those of us who are Christians and await the return of our Saviour, King Jesus. He IS coming back, and "every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Him to be Lord."...even the UNbelievers. But it will be too late for them.(Phil 2:10-11).

This is so very very sad. Thank you, Bex for all the articles you collect, copy and paste, and the words you type here on this Message Board. You are a bright light in a dark corner to many people, myself included, for sure! God bless you, dear friend.


Yes, we await this time in hope. It was said that in the last days would come scoffers! If ever there was a time where people scoffed at such talk and faith, it's now. Expect more of the same.

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Timothy 4:1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons
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2 Peter 2:10 and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority. Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic majesties


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Jude 1:18 that they were saying to you, "In the last time there will be mockers, following after their own ungodly lusts."



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{2} Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days {a} scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

(2) He vouches the second coming of Christ against the Epicureans by name.

(a) Monstrous men, who will seem wise by their contempt of God, and wicked boldness.


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3:2-3 Be the more mindful thereof, because ye know scoffers will come first - Before the Lord comes. Walking after their own evil desires - Here is the origin of the error, the root of libertinism. Do we not see this eminently fulfilled?


Thank you too Abishag! Your posts have been an inspiration! It's nice to share this with like-minded souls.




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Living in the south, I have to say that Obama being elected has meant a lot to the black population. I have to think something positive will come of it. My concern is that his race is what got him elected, though, but that his true motives or even mission is all about starting the NWO or furthering it. He is not very patriotic. Seems to be very "humanist." On the surface that seems idealistic and fair minded - but in fact its leading to what our country has fought many wars over...communism. (First socialism....)


"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as if everything is." Albert Einstein
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link - may prove to be the darkest day


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Tuesday, November 4th, 2008, may just prove to be the
DARKEST DAY IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.


I know, that is saying a lot in comparison to a number of black days in our history, but we haven't seen anything like what we could now see come to pass.

In Jer 30 he says.............

7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

In "The Coming Destruction of The United States" I said...."People think that I write quite strongly, and about matters which are contrary to the popular belief systems. They are right, Praise Jah. However strong you think I write, Jah SAYS IT STRONGER!!!

The time of The Great Tribulation is the Time of Jacob's Trouble. If we are of the House of Israel, that means the DAY OF OUR TROUBLE!!! Hear me well."

Jacob's name was changed to "Israel." So, by Jah's decree, the names Jacob and Israel were given unto Joseph's two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh (Gen 48:16), and NOT to Judah, nor "Jews." That is why the two houses, The House of Judah, and the House of Israel came into being. Judah has NO RIGHT to the name "Israel", and is why they went by "The House of Judah.

Jacob prophesied unto his sons what would befall them in the last days. (Gen 49) So, these two sons of Joseph were to be in the world "in the last days," and therefore the "Great Tribulation," the time of "Jacob's trouble" would be their time of trouble IN THE LAST DAYS. The question is, "So Who In The World Is The House of Israel?". If you have not read that article, then click on the link, and find out who they are, for that is imperative to know to understand what is going on now.

HISTORIC CHANGE COMING

We have been promised "CHANGE." And, HISTORIC CHANGE we will get, but oh, how dreadful those changes could be. The Israelites of this nation are so sick with sin they have been turned over to a reprobate mind and have no idea what they have brought down upon their own heads with their votes.

Romans 1............

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

The United States has had a serious illness called SIN, has grown worse with every passing year, and finally on this day, our nation as we have known it, and as our Founding Fathers planned for it to be, DIED!!! All that is left to do is dig the hole, lower the casket, and throw in the dirt. You think not? Wait until you see the changes that will be brought forth in the coming four years, and probably the next eight years. It will be a totally different entity than what it has been. HEAR ME WELL!!!

I knew it was coming, and yet when Obama was actually elected, a sick and very troubled deep-seated sadness came over me that I had not expected. Just as so many have written to say, my heart sank like never before in regard to this nation. It was the same kind of feeling you get when someone close has passed away, and mourning sets in.

Some might think that this is an article with racial overtones. Let me make it very clear. This is NOT a racist article. When Jah created this world, He called it all GOOD!!! I will not call that which He calls good anything but good. However, what He calls evil, I WILL CALL EVIL!!!
There are many wonderful people on my email list that are not of the Anglo-Saxon House of Israel ancestry, and I am glad to have them. I in NO WAY want them to feel that I have more love for the members of the House of Israel than I do for them. There will be people from all racial ancestries in Zion.


FACTS CONCERNING OBAMA

Let me give you a few facts concerning Barack Hussein Obama, some of which have been taken from email reports found in the Editorial Table of Contents:

He may not even be a legal citizen of The United States, as allegedly he was born in Kenya, and not Hawaii. There have been legal proceedings to prove this, only to have them stonewalled. If this is not true, THEN WHY STONEWALL THEM??? Only a legal citizen can run for the Presidency, and if he is NOT a legal citizen, then he is a bald faced liar, and one who should not only be thrown out of the office of being President, BUT JAILED FOR FRAUD!!!

Contradictory to his insistence that he, himself, is a "Christian," the candidate wrote in his "Dreams From My Father.." biography, "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

HIS NAME is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is NOT half black. In being elected, he is the first Arab-American President, not the first black President.

Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side.

While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro).

(From....and for more....go to..... http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-

_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African )

Barrack Obama has recently made an outlandish (but evidently true) statement in a political speech that should alarm true Christians with the loudest bell. He stated: "We are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists..."

Obama, in his own biography, refers to Malcolm X as offering some "hope" for whites to be "brothers in Islam" and, claims he, himself, is looking "to see where the people would come from . . . to populate this new world"

The real Barack Obama is a man who, largely because of the circumstance of his birth and the environment in which he lived in his formative years, was raised as an atheist, a Marxist, and a Muslim.

Obama's maternal grandparents and his mother were atheists. His mother's boyfriend, Frank Marshall Davis [a pairing up that reportedly took place after Stanley Ann Dunham-Soetoro divorced Lolo Soetoro and returned to Hawaii] was a communist. So was Obama's mother. Both of Obama's stepfathers were Muslims. And even though Obama was enrolled in a Roman Catholic grade school in Indonesia, he was educated as a Muslim—as required by law—because his religion on his enrollment forms was listed as Islam.

Obama claims to be a "Christian." IS HE??? No True Christian could ever believe such a statement. Obama's brand of Christianity is called Black Liberation Theology. His church, from the time he married his wife, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson, Obama was a member of Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ—whose pulpit expounded a rabid form of Black Liberation Theology. Black liberation theology weaves Marxism into the black church experience. His Pastor, Jeremiah Wright, preached that "Jesus" was NOT a blue eyed whitey, but a black African.

Communism is heralded by black pastors like Wright and Moss as the best philosophy for blacks who are always presented as the victims of white oppression. Black liberation theology denounces any Christian solutions that don't include redistributionalism as the primary means to achieve equality between the races. Now do you understand Obama's new tax plan that will rob the rich to give to the poor??? And, who are those "poor?"

Wright was Obama's confident and advisor for TWENTY YEARS. Do you really think that he did not know what Wright preached and stood for??? If not in agreement with him, then how could Obama be in his church for TWENTY YEARS???

Do you know who Louis Farrakhan is? Talk about a racist Muslim who would wipe the Christians off of the face of the earth, this is one. He campaigned heavily for Obama and stated, "When Obama speaks, it IS THE MESSIAH."

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegience nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.
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The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised 'Meet The Press'. and the author is employed by none other than the Washington Post!!

Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At the very least, 'Stand and Face It'.

Senator Obama Live on Sunday stated,

'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said.

(He does not want the world to know whose side he is on???)

'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose.

(He is ashamed of our Flag and National Anthem, and wants no part with them??? This is the man we have elected as PRESIDENT??? What in the world was this country thinking in voting for him???)

I like the song 'I'd like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute It.

(This is the man who we have elected President. He hates the National anthem, and refuses to Pledge his allegiance to the United States of America.)

'We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love.

(His intent is to CHANGE our NATIONAL ANTHEM, and to CREATE A NEW FLAG???)

It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren.

(He would disarm us to the pleasure of those who are out to DESTROY US???)

We as a Nation of warring people, should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails.

(Since when are the "nations of Islam" PEACE LOVING. See the editorial THE GROWING MUSLIM WORLD THREAT-and-Welcome to Islamberg: the terrorists of Middle America?)

Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord between our governments. When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts.

We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair injustice. My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine'. Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put aside my hatred.

(The racist Michelle has nothing but disrespect for our flag? So much so that they were in on BURNING FLAGS? And He has a hatred of us that he had to put aside? Yesiree, we have elected a real PATRIOT, right?)

I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope.

(Go back and read what he just said. What changes does he plan to make??? What happens under the new Patriot Act to those of the Christians who rebel, and speak out against those changes??? Is this what the Concentration Camps, furnished with spring loaded guillotines have been prepared for??? Is Martial Law now on the horizon?)

My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First Family.

(Oh did they ever. And in that looking forward, WHAT WERE THEY PLANNING??? These are two radically RACIST individuals that would take GREAT PLEASURE in beheading the rebellious "Christian.")

There is a plan to join The United States, Mexico, and Canada into a new giant Political Entity. When this takes place, and it will, it will destroy our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE FOREVER!!! Is this part of Obama's plan FOR CHANGE???

In this move, there will be a new currency called the Amero Dollar, which will lead to the infamous "Mark of The Beast." Has this been the reason for the planned and created economic crisis. Is this a part of Obama's plan for change?

I will not go into all of the unsavory characters he has been involved with throughout his political life, for that you should already be aware of anyway. Just know the list is long.


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HAS THE FALSE PROPHET RISEN???

This False Prophet is to rise from out of no where to become the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!

Every President has been working hand-in-hand with the Edomites to bring forth the New World Order, which is the prophesied Satanic anti-Christ Beast System to manifest in the end time just before the return of Christ. Has Obama been installed to accelerate the process?

Never in our history has the rest of the world rejoiced so wildly over the election of a President. WHY??? What does the rest of the world expect from him as a "Messiah" that causes such joy world wide??? Is the WHOLE WORLD expecting him to make changes that will affect THE WHOLE WORLD??? Is this possibility in prophecy ANYWHERE?

I have long said that when a black man becomes elected President of the United States, we will be nearing the "Time of Jacob's Trouble." Is this true? Well, we sure enough are going to find out. The possibility might just make the coming days quite interesting.

I have also alluded elsewhere that this man could be the "False Prophet" of the end time. Am I saying that Obama IS the False Prophet of the end time? NOT YET!! Time will tell the validity of that assumption, but I can tell you that he fits the descriptions in every way. Let me explore this possibility just for your information.

We read of this individual in Rev 13. Let me cover just a bit in verse 11 here. For the complete exegesis, read "Jezebel and Her End Time False Prophet.", which I originally wrote over twenty years ago. Remember as you read down through this, it has not just been written because of the election. I "saw" this LONG AGO. There you will read why I say, "This False Prophet is to rise from out of no where to become the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!" (Taken from a few excerpts in that article)

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the eartH; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Every word / phrase in the Book of Revelation is there for a reason, and has great meaning. Where it says "And I beheld another BEAST coming up out OF THE EARTH is one, and there for a reason, It would take about six hours of teaching to explain, so I cannot go into it here. I will just say that this means he will NOT be a member of the Anglo-Saxon House of Israel descendants of Adam.

He has two horns like a lamb. What is meant by this? The horns being "like a lamb", and not of a full grown ram means they have just sprouted. They are horns that have been newly acquired. It does not say he himself IS a lamb, but that his HORNS resemble, are LIKE those of a lamb. He may therefore appear as a "Messiah" to the world.

Horns in scripture, like mountains, mean authority. This indicates to us that even though he will be an end day Super Ruler, his authority will be newly acquired authority. In turn then, we can presume even though he may be popular, or well known during his rising, he probably will not have held any positions of great or world authority prior to his taking office as the False Prophet

Why is it two horns of a lamb? Why not two horns of a deer, or a goat? Jahshuwah is THE Lamb (Rev 17:14). The fact the False Prophet has two horns like a LAMB is not just a coincidental matter. Jahshuwah has authority in two realms. He is PRIEST and KING, and this is what the two horns represent. Religious and political, or governmental authority. So, not only will this False Prophet have political authority in the world just like the "anti-Christ" before him, but he will have religious authority as well.

Then we have the statement, "he spake as a dragon." Whether by Rev 12:9, or by Dr. Strong's concordance, the term "dragon" is somewhat synonymous with the Biblical title, "Serpent." This False Prophet Beast that rises from out of the earth will speak as a dragon, or maybe it could be said, like the Serpent spoke with EVE. It is the exact same pattern, only this time "Eve" is THE CHURCH (ekklesia)

Jahshuwah is the second and LAST ADAM (1st Cor 15:45). This spiritually places the Church, the "Bride of Jahshuwah", into the position of Eve. This False Prophet will speak as the Serpent did to deceive not just the world, but the very "Elect." As Jahshuwah said, "If it were possible, even the elect would be deceived."

Gen 3:1tells us:

1Now the serpent was more subtle than any [other] beast (living soul) of the earth.

The Serpent was the NON-Adamic beast or living creature (soul), that Satan used to "beguile" (meaning to seduce) Eve, and he was the MOST CUNNING and CRAFTY of all the non-Adamic living souls. The wordings of these scriptures, and the intents of these two "False Prophet" beasts or living souls, is too similar to ignore, particularly when we are in the day of the RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS! There was one at the beginning, and now one at the end.

Like the Serpent did with Eve, this last day False Prophet will probably quote the Word of Jah, but with subtle twisting. What he says will seem to be good, and unless you know the true Word, you would not know that what he is saying is in direct conflict. How much of this are we already seeing in our pulpits which is the precursor, and preparation for, the False Prophet and what He shall have to say.

He will appear to be a good, sincere and a "Messiah like" individual, "like a lamb." But, what he says will with discernment, give away his true motives. He will be hostile to the truth, and will be most determined to deceive Eve (the Church) into a terrible deception. Those that will not succumb to his lies and demands, he will thoroughly enjoy executing.

He is both political and religious, appears to be quite righteous or Messiah like; speaks with great cunning deception that could deceive the very elect; and has a position of great world authority.

Therefore he will be very charismatic, believable, and most persuasive. He probably will be the greatest "people motivator" with his speeches that we have seen in a long time.

This will be the "Spirit of Jezebel's" End Time WORLD RULING False Prophet


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HOW DID THIS MAN BECOME ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES???

This election is a Judgment on the Israelites in this nation, and because of our wickedness, have become the tail instead of the head (Deut 28) in our own country. The non-Israelite people now rule over us. We have fallen into a well defined captivity.

I have to ask, How could such a man who................

[b]who has NEVER accomplished ONE THING as a Senator, except learning how to mesmerize his audiences with a mysterious hypnotic spell by using hidden hypnotic techniques in his speeches. Hear me well on that one. The next time that you see him speaking to an audience, look into their eyes. It is as though they are in a trans like state with a look of worship in their eyes.

is for homosexuals

is for Gay Marriage

for the murder of babies. (There have been something like 50,000,000 murdered to date)

may not even be a legal citizen of The United States

will not pledge his allegiance to the United States

hates the National anthem and will not sing it

has declared that he will stand with the Muslim's in a time of trouble

has an Arabic name and is 43% Arab in his bloodline

sat under the Jeremiah Wright who preaches Black Liberation Theology and that "Jesus" was a black African.

that Communism is heralded by black pastors like Wright and Moss as the best philosophy for blacks who are always presented as the victims of white oppression

is supported by the Muslim radical Louis Farrakhan who says "When Obama speaks, IT IS THE MESSIAH.

whose campaign was supported by world wide Muslims in the MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

was raised as an atheist, a Marxist, and a Muslim.

is a man that stated: "We are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists..."

stated in his own biography about Malcolm X as offering some "hope" for whites to be "brothers in Islam" and, claims he, himself, is looking "to see where the people would come from . . . to populate this new world"

will not wear the flag lapel pin because "I don't want to be perceived as taking sides"

who says that "It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren"

wants to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love.
Whose whole intent is TO BRING CHANGE to the United States.

How could such a man have become elected president of a supposed Christian Nation that was founded on Biblical principles.???

Because it is PROPHECY coming to pass, and a JUDGMENT upon the House of Israel, and Ephraim in particular. JUDGMENT by Jah who took His hand away, sent a strong delusion upon the reprobate minds to do that which is not convenient, and allowed this act of our Satanic enemies to come to pass!!! There is NO OTHER EXPLANATION!!!

And, the Israelites are too stupefied by their ignorant deluded minds to even realize what they have done, or what they have brought down upon their own heads.

Just as our House of Israel ancestors went into captivity to their non-Israelite enemies because of their iniquity, SO HAVE WE!!!

It is certainly time for every true follower of Christ to begin to praying with earnest as He commanded in Luke 21........

34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life.....(and I repeat)..... CARES OF THIS LIFE, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare (and again I repeat) ......as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.


Even though it might have been the darkest day in the history of our nation, it just might be the brightest day for the Overcomers as of yet, for the time may now be coming when many of the House of Israel will wake up, realize who they are and the trouble they are in, so then Jer 50.can come to pass ..............

4 In those days, and in that time, saith Jah, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek Jah their Elohim. 5 They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to Jah in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.


What happens when they get there having been given THE RESTORED KINGDOM MANDATE?..............

28 The voice of them that flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of Jah our Elohim, the vengeance of his temple.


Jer 31: "For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the mount (authority of) Ephraim (which IS The United States) shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto Jah our Elohim. 7For thus saith Jah; Sing with gladness for Jacob, and shout among the chief of the nations (the greatest nation): publish ye, praise ye, and say, O Jah, save thy people, the remnant of Israel.


HalleluJah,[/b]

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Jeanie] #44936
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Originally Posted by Jeanie
Living in the south, I have to say that Obama being elected has meant a lot to the black population. I have to think something positive will come of it. My concern is that his race is what got him elected, though, but that his true motives or even mission is all about starting the NWO or furthering it. He is not very patriotic. Seems to be very "humanist." On the surface that seems idealistic and fair minded - but in fact its leading to what our country has fought many wars over...communism. (First socialism....)
I know right, reach no further than Vietnam, we went over there to fight communism (Socialism as you call it as well) and now the US is heading towards that itself? What was the war for really then? Not what they told us no doubt, as exposed today. Good post though, I agree on all.


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Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Sean] #44939
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Yes, ((( Smiles )))

Every President has been working hand-in-hand..
Thats so true and apparent.
And as Clinton did wonders for Gore..
Bush did wonders for McCain..
I think the world couldn't wait to get rid of him.
Or anything that might smell of him.
Lots of people in the US too felt like that..
Could they have possibly been setting us up for the roller coaster ride we find ourselves on??
Part of the plan??
No matter who you get to pick theses days it seems like they're made up from the same type of cloth.
Bush did alot for the image of Christians, not!
Maybe thats because that was part of the plan as who really is the ruler of this system at this time anyway.
And it really looks like that too and it seems to fit well..
As..
I didn't vote for either Bush or Kerry and their very Christian skull and bones membership ways..
Not!
Their part of the system of the worlds comeing events.
No doubt!
And I remember back then too other Christians saying if you don't vote for Bush your not a Christian or your going straight to hell..
Well..
Even though thats where this world is heading too no doubt..
Or at ..
That didn't really do much good for the cause in the credibilty factor as..
Lots of people don't and didn't believe he was a real Christian anyway.
Back then and even more so now.
Lots of Christian's who were for him eventually changed their mind on that one too..
I read alot on the web about that..
On Christian Forums.
Being let down and worse.
And now people look back at that and just the damage he has done to the credibility and the image of...
Could have been done on purpose breaking things up leading up to the next plan of events.
A world wide one as the kings of the earth..
It has to be a global system as writen of course.
Which Bush did gave people a real bad taste in their mouth
so they would all run the other way and it was very effective indeed.
Even I couldn't wait till he left and that started from day one too and progressed to total disgust over time.
I don't trust the roller coaster ride much anymore.
I now see it for what it's worth so I voted for Ralph.
I like his message and thats all your going to get theses
days anyway the message of whats wrong with the system
theses days..
The one that the merchants of this earth run deliciously.
Till the end of this system anyway..
Same ol same ol and just for the added touch here..
Ralph tells us what we are loseing or what we have lost.
No matter who gets elected if it's not really fixed anyway.
The powers that be will get them in line no matter.
They control the world and thats why their called world wide merchants in Scripture.
But you all know that anyway..
And then there's this...

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Lynnmn] #44940
11/10/08 12:22 AM
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Obama has a number of good luck practices and also carries a number of good luck charms with him..
Expecially a small statue of an Indian monkey god that Obama is said to carry in his pocket.

So you wonder what monkeys have to do with anything, religious, luckwise, or otherwise?
But what else is new??
This world worships at the feet of the monkey god anyway no doubt..
The world lusts/wonders after the beast/the wicked one.
The right action = monkey god.
So this is what the world has come too can one expect anything less??
Or more??
In this system of things.
As written.

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Lynnmn] #45025
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Time will tell on Obama, I will give the man time before I really make my mind up either way. He could help things, the way he talks about more govt. though and so on sounds like socialism and that scares me. I hope I am wrong there.


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Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Sean] #45026
11/11/08 05:33 PM
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A nation under God, blessed by God, Yet elects a man that supports both the murder of the unborn and homosexuality, both of which God condemns; in my opinion is a nation that is teetering on the brink of chastisement/s.

No true follower of Christ would support that in which offends Him so greviously. There really isn't any separation of ones beliefs and voting in politics - everything we do in life should be a reflection of our Christian beliefs and all the choices we make and what we stand for.

When one makes a conscience informed decision to elect somebody who has the power to support and allow certain abominations and has made it clear enough that he indeed supports such - How then shall such voters face God? By saying "it's not my problem it's politics not religion"? As though one can honestly separate the two? This is sin by association in my opinion.

For the first time, I have voted this year in our election here in NZ according to my Christian beliefs. In the past, much to my regret and shame, I voted according to whatever would benefit myself. I took little notice of the moral implications.

This time, I did it differently. I knew by my vote, it would likely make little to almost no impact because of the minor party I voted for. But I voted anyway, because I looked at their beliefs regarding morality/unborn children. In the end, it is our intention and our actions that matter the most and what we gain in eternity, is the goal, whether we win or lose here is irrelevant in comparison. My opinion is, if all Christians decided to make a change, and stood strong regardless of what others were doing and regardless of whether they felt it would make much of a difference or not- then I believe we would see an overall change happen.

Evil triumphs when good people do nothing.

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Sean] #45067
11/12/08 02:52 PM
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I just remembered I dreamt I met and was hanging out with both Clinton and Obama last night????????????


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Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Jeanie] #45069
11/12/08 03:02 PM
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I felt a deep, dark sense of forboding the morning after the election and I'm feeling it now. We are headed for dark times. The good news is that it will herald in the second coming of the real Messiah.... But America has a great fight ahead first. Its all about good and evil now. Not sure if y'all on here are aware, but right now gays are up in arms against our church in certain states (CA) for pumping in 24 million dollars to fight for proposition 8 to make gay marriage Illegal. They aired a rediculous commercial about our church like we were in cahoots with the govt. on this. Not so... The church normally does not get into political issues, but when it comes to the satanic act of the denegration of the sacred unit of the family we fought it. Now gays are rabidly protesting and yelling at patrons trying to enter the temples there. It is a literal fight against good and evil and we are going to have to throw in. Its like Christ said - either you are for me or against me. This isn't a denominational issue. Persecutions will rage - they already are - and they will become stronger. Its why I get so ticked when so called Christians try to tear fellow Christians down. We need to stand and pull together. I am not homophobic. I don't hate gays. But they cannot be expected to be called married in the normal sense. Its an abomination and an insult to the very purpose of marriage.

I'd heard of Obama not pledging but hadn't seen the "evidence." It makes me feel physically ill. My ancestors fought for the formation of this great country and I feel like its being taken over. I'm a veteran myself. I didn't want to believe it, but do believe my fears were justified now. He appealed to racial issues, but this isn't even about that.

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Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Bex] #45073
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Blessings Bex, and everyone concerned about this Election!


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"The LORD is far from the wicked, but He hears the prayer of the righteous (Prov. 15:29).

"Because he has loved Me, therefore I will deliver him...he will call upon Me, and I will answer him. I will be with him in trouble; I will rescue him and honor him." (Ps 91:14-15).

"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man is there among you who, when his son asks for a loaf, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, he will not give him a snake, will he? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him?" (Matt.7:7-11).

"If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you" (John 15:7).

"This is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests which we have asked from Him (1John 5:14-15).

"Therefore let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need" (Heb. 4:16).

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Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Abigail] #45078
11/12/08 05:19 PM
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http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/sto...=11834&productId=40401&langId=-1

I got this forward today. The USPS is now selling a MUSLIM "holiday" (EID?) stamp. Check it out on the official website. (If the site doesn't work let me know)


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Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Jeanie] #45080
11/12/08 05:37 PM
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You know, I believe in world peace, human equality, all those idealistic things - but I fear a jihad is in the works. I think America has lost sight of what is right on many levels but this election was close and it was the race card that sent it over the edge. I just don't like not trusting who we have given our national security and well being over to....(and all our allies for that matter. But know how many we have left anymore). What is going on?? I am not generally paranoid, but wonder, too, if just being on this website is going to get us in hot water down the road. Just FYI - there has been modern day revelation stating all nations will rise against America....(except Jerusalem if I remember right). (But it will awaken this sleeping giant - again). I do not love America just because I live here. I really believe in what she stands for. Freedom!!!! For all!!!!


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Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Jeanie] #45081
11/12/08 07:54 PM
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http://salesianity.blogspot.com/2008/11/prophetic-words-from-archbishop-sheen.html
Prophetic words by Archbishop Sheen?

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"The world is rapidly being divided into two camps, the comradeship of anti-Christ and the brotherhood of Christ. The lines between these two are being drawn. How long the battle will be we know not; whether swords will have to be unsheathed we know not; whether blood will have to be shed we know not; whether it will be an armed conflict we know not. But in a conflict between truth and darkness, truth cannot lose."


Thanks for your posts Abishag and Jeanie.

We must trust and know that God can bring good out of evil. Nothing is beyond Him. I personally believe that God maybe allowing for such a crucendo, in order to wake up the sleeping faithful, warn the unfaithful and bring final good out of it. Not BECAUSE of it, but in spite of it. Surely if God continually stood in the way from allowing evil to sew its seed - would we ever be able to judge it by its fruits? Would we recognise and realise what happens when we oust God out of our lives and treat his moral codes with indifference and mockery? We need to both see and sometimes experience the results, even if we ourselves are not responsible. Cruel as it may sound, we all live in the same world. Unfortunately evil is a reality.

I think this is part of an awakening personally. But I believe there will be a dramatic one for the world at some point

Otherwise would we wake up enough to consider our times and the outcome of evil decisions and behaviours? Or would one remain in a state of inertia/confusion/lukewarmness that would never cease, because no such climax or impact would ever be seen for what it is? There are some, like myself, who have only gotten more serious with God from seeing the results of liberalism. Had I not seen this, I may never have woken up to it, or in fact, to myself.

If He lets evil run its course and reach a climax, surely the world shall finally be cleansed through the agony it has wrought upon itself and people will be clear on where they stand and whom they serve. God is in control either way. Even the extent of evil can only do as much as God allows.

There is therefore hope in all the awful signs/evils we see increasing around us. Why? We were foretold this in God's word and it is unfolding as was spoken. Therefore, we ought to lift up our hearts and rejoice that Christ MUST be coming back soon.

I do not believe God has ignored the prayers of the faithful. But because people continue to commit so many sins each day without thought to the consequences, and make such unwise choices, would God do us any favours, if He did not allow things to take their course? Let this earth be cleansed through whatever means our Lord decides is appropriate and that may very well come through ourselves and our sinful decisions - both personal and public. How much has God now been ousted? From schools, society and even our personal lives etc? Then let us see what happens when the world thinks it does not need God.

Already look at what is happening? If I'm not mistaken, because of the increasing evil and the fruits that we are seeing within society, people appear to be waking up and becoming increasingly alerted to sin/evil (even in their own lives) and Christ's second coming. But I think there is much more to come and those still living in blindness, may too be woken up. Perhaps it'll take a lot of pain before that happens. I honestly think we ought to rejoice, not at the evil itself, but at the victory that will be won in spite of it.

Just my two cents.

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Bex] #45109
11/13/08 06:47 PM
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I wanted to add something myself.

Yes i believe and also feel things are bubbling under the surface, that something is going on and might reach it's climax soon (2012 etc), but bex I dont think evil is on the increase. I aldo would risk saying it's decreasing, its more like either. Remember we had lots of wars in the past, lots more of blood shed, plagues, diseases that wiped out millions of people, people getting killed solely because of being different - and let's not kid ourselves miost of it was out of religious influence - lot's of intolerance, mindlessness, pettiness, corruption, dictatorship, acting according 'laws of the jungle' etc etc- a lot of those things dont exist anymore, at least not this shape. if anything i think there is no more evil but no less, evil has just found other ways to manifest itself, and yes it's much more hidden, cunning but less? dont think so.

so if something is driving the world to a climax i dont think it's because of increasing evil, maybe because of upsetting some balance. maybe we get this impression because of how fast the world moves now.


Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: jinx1983] #45119
11/13/08 10:05 PM
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I see what you're saying Jinx and that is right. I agree with you to some extent. Good V evil has always been.

But, I am not speaking so much about obvious evil and wars, (which I feel in the end, is a climax build up from hatred and sin and the powers that be, with the poor ordinary people getting murdered for it) and let's face it, to some extent has always been. But not quite on the world wide scale as the last few wars have been.

Localised? Yep, always been there. But I suspect something coming that will make them look pretty small in comparison. I hope I'm wrong.

I am speaking more about serious sins being accepted as "normal and ok". The candy coated kind smile That in fact, frightens me alot. The acceptance of the very things that seriously offend God and sometimes eruption from such evil is only an outcome of a condition that has been festering for a long time.

Now, if a person doesn't believe in God? Then of course, this kind of stuff doesn't mean much if anything. But when it becomes something that is accepted and embraced even by so-called believers? That's where I think things are spiralling down. I think one is literally mocking/baiting God and I've never seen such mockery in all my life. Seriously, I"ve been on this earth for 36 years now and these recent times have been in that respect, a complete and utter horror. I have never seen such degradation on television and in the media in my life. Am I'm no prissy prude, but it's even surprised me. The kids viewing this and being corrupted, unless their parents are there to monitor EVERYTHING and take charge of the TV. Sad, shouldn't have to be that way, but it is. Even daytime/early evening TV.

Oh yeah don't get me wrong, there are some things that have indeed improved and we have better technology and understanding of medical conditions etc etc. But to me, this is "surface" improvements. The underlying sinfulness of society has become a disgrace in my opinion. I know that's going to annoy people, but I speak from a standpoint of a belief in God, not atheism.

One cannot shove religion down somebody's throat, but to remain quiet and shut up continually in a society that celebrates/encourages sin on a daily basis? I think somebody, sometime needs to speak out. It's a secular world for the most part, and no we'll never be able to control or stop what people do, but it's wise to be alerted to the increase in sin and the increase of the acceptance of it and not remain blinded to what is going on all around us and take some stands. Even if it means a bit of humiliation and being thought of as "uncool or old fashioned". As far as I know, morality is not something that becomes outdated and God certainly doesn't. It applies as much to day, as it ever did.

Also, we have been exposed to it for so long, it is no wonder so many of us become numb and even blinded to it. Unable to really see it for what it is anymore.


Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: jinx1983] #45125
11/13/08 11:45 PM
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I'm Back For A Bit, ((( Smiles )))

Need to catch up as school was out and now for days they have been working on the roof and
need to have that done before the rains come.
And they had to pressure wash off all that tile roof moss ...
And what a mess that was but it needed to be done.
But the biggest murders and maimers of life on this planet
in my eyes is the corperate governments, the merchants.
The don't want to really solve the problems of poverty which promotes crime, child abuse, starvation and dispare.
Our government as well as others supports corperations, the merchants and not the people's interests.
The widespread of harm they are causeing to human life through pesticides, chemicals, heavy metals, chemtrails,
poverty, and dispare..
causes more suicides and the taking of innocent life and is caused by theses merchants that our government supports.
Even though thats not the only evil done in this world today.

But it is most likely also destroying this planets balance causeing global melting, changeing weather patterns, dieing bee's
ect..
Weither through smog, chemtrails, pesticides and chemicals that are in our rivers lakes and streams and in all of our bodies
or HAARP
or whatever which one a person could point to as the blame.
Lots of people are sick physically & mental and not in their right minds because of the harm they do.
And also not to forget to include big pharm on that list..
Global big pharm..

But about the only person I believe that would try to save more lives and heal this sickness would be Ralph Nader
who educates, expose's and tell's it like is about the merchants global corperations.
Maybe him and running mate Dr Becker to heal the harm thats been done already would be nice..
How much can be healed that is.
But otherwise..
The politicians all support the corperations in reality and will toe the party and global line.
Building more jails is what they are about makeing more criminals out of people is there thing.
Enforcement..
And poverty which leads to more criminals.
Instead of trying to solve whats wrong with this system of things.
They like the revolving door concept instead.
Not saying all crimes are commited because of poverty and fear or joblessness and hopelessness or medications side effects,
mental illness ect..
As there are truely evil people in this world..
But alot of it is caused by the system of this world that promotes it and causes alot of grief.
But it's not meant to be at this time..
Even with Ralph.
As Jesus said Satan is the ruler of this system of things
at this time.
The merchants will be with us to the end of time.
And our politicians support them so they don't want to really fix any of this at this time either.
And God knows it as they deal in the cargo of..
Rev:13 : and of the bodies and souls of men.

Revelation 11:18 explains:
" The nations became wrathfull, and your own wrath came,
and the appointed time ... to bring to ruin thoses ruining the earth."
The ruining of the earth will be stopped..

Thats the only way this madness is going to totally stop.
They are responsible for alot of things that happen on this planet.
So I cannot vote at this time for anyone I see as that supports the merchants.
But the merchants will win anyway no matter what and until then..
We have polliticians makeing promises they don't really intend to keep.
And end up supporting the merchants that cause more dispare and death.
It's not about helping people it's about creating evil.
It's big Business for them.
And just reading this website shows how terrible it really is.
And don't forget about the cutting down of rainforests.
There is just so much harm being done on this planet as it is.

But to getting to what Jinx wrote as I just wrote my feelings above on what I see that causes alot the of theses problems..
And also greed is a big one with politicians and citizens too.
But things are bubbling under the surface and something is
going on that will reach a climax and soon is very possible.
And yes evil has been with us since the beginning of time.
But wars are being fought theses days with bigger tools.
More mass deaths in latter times as there was not that many people way back then, as there is today.
It's on a much bigger scale now then ever before.
Stalin, Hitler ect..
And a world war three could be far worse then all of that
for sure.
But Jesus warned of that, it getting worse.
And lots of wolves in sheep clothing too.
Back then and here with us today.

But yes and no in the way..

i think there is no more evil but no less, evil has just found other ways to manifest itself..

There is more people alive today then ever before..
So there will be more evil people because of that.
Yet the people who commit the greatest evil do it on a mass scale now it's more global.
More effective now and widespread.
And because of mass media we can see more of the evil deeds done today as everything is more exposed then it was back then.
On an individual bases but even still with all of that taken into consideration.
It is getting worse..
The world is comeing to a head..
No doubt.

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections [Re: Jeanie] #45127
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Hi Jeanie, ((( Smiles )))

And Bush is leaving the country too..
Kind of makes you feel like we've been set up, doesn't it??
But maybe also meant to be as all paths lead to the end..
The kings of the earth and the worldwide global system.
Reminds me of an articule I just read.
But you already know that..
All nations will go against Israel.
About all nations are now, especially at the U.N.
The hook in the jaw as in Ezekiel.

38:19: Surely, in that day there shall be a great quaking in the land of Israel.
And the fish of the sea, and the birds of the heavens, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep on the earth,
and all men who are on the face of the earth , shall quake at My face.

23: And I will magnify Myself and sanctify, And I will be known in the eyes of the many nations; and they shall know that I am Jehovah.

39:21: And I will put My glory among the nations, and all the nations shall see my judgements which I have done,
and My hand that I have laid on them.
So they shall know that I am Jehovah their God, from that day and onward.
And the nations shall know that the house of Israel was exiled for their inquity.
Because they betrayed Me, so I hide my face from them and gave them into the hand of their enemies.

28: then they shall know that I am Jehovah their God, who exiled them among the nations.
But I have gathered them to their own land, and have not left any of them there.

A scattering and then a gathering and about all nations are against Israel.
It is so close..
But I think we are already in hot water down the road.
Weither we are on this website or not.
We are all in a data base somewhere.
They know what you like to eat too.
This event is really big.
Whats going to happen.

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections Time will Tell His Alliances [Re: Lynnmn] #65895
02/21/12 06:27 PM
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Even though President Obama say's he is a Christian and his policies on homosexuals etc... are not ones that muslims hold.
His policies are confusing and time will tell his alliances.
Flying the Palestian flag over the White House when it is not even a nation is confusing policy indeed.
There is something up with him for sure!

Re: Obama: The Muslim connections/Universities Team Up Muslim Brotherhood [Re: Lynnmn] #65906
02/22/12 03:11 PM
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- fyi
Universities Team Up With Muslim Brotherhood
February 15, 2012

By dana

World Threats reports - A group of U.S. universities has shockingly partnered with the Muslim Brotherhood in Qatar, according to TheGlobal Muslim Brotherhood Daily Report.

The University of Colorado, Georgetown University, Texas A&M University, Virginia Commonwealth University and Weill Cornell Medical College, helped organize the January 15th launch of the Brotherhood-affiliated Research Center for Islamic Legislation and Ethics.

Anti-Semitic and a supporter of suicide bombings and Hamas Sheikh Yousef al-Qaradawi, the top Muslim Brotherhood theologian, spoke at the event.

Northwestern University, Carnegie Mellon University, Virginia Commonwealth University, Georgetown University, Weill Cornell Medical College and Texas A&M University, have established branch campuses with the Qatar Faculty of Islamic Studies.

According to The QFIS website, the Brotherhood offers student graduate programs in:

•Islamic Finance, also known as Sharia Compliant Finance, a mechanism used to support Islamists and even terrorism. Learn more at ShariahFinanceWatch.org.

•Public Policy in Islam—in other words, “political Islam,” the ideology of the Islamists.

•Islamic Studies with a Specialization in Contemporary Fiqh—meaning, Sharia Law.

•Urban Design and Architecture in Muslim Societies

•Contemporary Muslim Societies—which, I’m sure, the Islamists will teach objectively.

What is Qatar Faculty of Islamic Studies?

We believe that clarifying the spirit of our Islamic heritage and its ability to serve all of humanity through its dynamic contribution to the arts and sciences is a critical mission in today’s world.

Stephen Schwartz, an anti-Islamist Muslim, explains the affect Saudi funding is having on Harvard University in the following article: Harvard’s Middle East “Outreach” Center Rife With Saudi Propoganda.

--Article from: Exposing Liberal Lies


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