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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jinx1983]
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01/18/09 02:28 PM
01/18/09 02:28 PM
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Sorry for spreading misery - again - but i REALLY REALLY REALLLY needed to write that.
no need torespon d. ------> ALA Chelation helps.
Jammes Recommends: Try Cutler Chelation.
if you are hg toxic try DMSA. If that doesn't do it try ALA. If that still doesn't do it you are not toxic or there is a hidden source of exposure.
moderate poisoning: 50 Rounds ALA severe poisoning: 80-150 Rounds ALA
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jinx1983]
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01/18/09 03:55 PM
01/18/09 03:55 PM
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Jinx, I just tried to say that this hell on earth will become less hellish if you chelate mercury out. No irony here.
Now after 31 rounds of ALA and 10 rounds DMSA only my candida seems to be ALMOST GONE. (i would say 90% of my yeast is gone) In the past days i had zero candida symptoms. Interestly the feeling of impending doom and hopelessness is also so much better.
btw: Try to avoid 1 day rounds if possible a few are OK but if you do this too often it can cause new problems.
Last edited by jammes; 01/18/09 04:02 PM.
Jammes Recommends: Try Cutler Chelation.
if you are hg toxic try DMSA. If that doesn't do it try ALA. If that still doesn't do it you are not toxic or there is a hidden source of exposure.
moderate poisoning: 50 Rounds ALA severe poisoning: 80-150 Rounds ALA
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jinx1983]
#46774
01/18/09 04:02 PM
01/18/09 04:02 PM
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ya i know u did, sorry bex, when i said guys i just meant everybody lol
i thnk i do have more mercury in my brain after last rounds redistribution... No worries Jinx. Due to my memory being what it is, I forget what dose and timing you're on with ALA and how many days you've been using it for? What caused the last round's redistribution?
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jammes]
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01/18/09 04:06 PM
01/18/09 04:06 PM
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ahhhh james! i know there was NO irony INTENDED on your part. but look:
1. like i said it's hell on earth DESPITE ALA chelation and BECAUSE - which maybe i should have added it - it makes you very UNABLE TO chelate. 2. you cannot avoid the unavoidable! when u start chelation ITS WITH INTENT of a full 3 day round - u dont wanna get much redistribution. But , hey, there u go, and the little creepy bi*tchy illness steps in with its sicky-funny-bunny sens eof humour and wham! u GOTTA end the round PRIOR. AND SURE u can spend whole days , WEEKS TRYING to make the grounds for a full 3 day chelation rounds cause that's how IT SHOULD BE YET what happens is u FALL into a vicious cirle of pretily f* with the yeast bascially all the time and cgetting yourself even more screwed with the ongoig toxins that your body cant excrete BECAUSE OF ALERADY (prettily) LODGED mercury in it! ha!
see, thats my point! HOWEVER U TRY to CONTROL THINGS this B*always has the last say! at least in the begining stages! hence the post lallala...
ps. yeah i know, im acting bipolar whahahhahha... gotta get the brain emrcurey out, but oh w8... the eyast again.... but ohw8.. its gonna screw me again... oh, ok bit yeast will get better with chelation... but, oh, w8...
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jinx1983]
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01/18/09 04:18 PM
01/18/09 04:18 PM
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bex no worries hon. im on 17mg ala, i tolerated it well before, if anything stopped because of yeast flareup.
the redistribution? i got this bowel - screwed up gut (ha!it rhymes!) - problem that i dont empty myself on my own, laxatives dont work and if i use extra magnesium and vitamin c my bwoels just get full with water NAD THATS IT - no diarheea to notinh, BUT the water manages to dillute all the toxins and it often goes to my sigmoid colon where the hepatic vain is (coffe enemas any?) - and since by bowels are on vacation and it doesn come out on its own, it just sits there and gives me toxic retention enema:):) - which aises blood levels of emrcury with ala around etc etc nice eh? ususally happens during the night when im asleep and i wke up with my brain numbed. its what happeend last time, wate rin the colon out of nowhere, maybe i took too muhc vitamin c, on the other hand just recently i was taking 10grams whtout any water and ow just like 1? 2g? see, thats how THNGS CHANGE WITHOUT U EVEN KNOWING IT. the beuty of this disease, thats what i meant, yeah...
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jinx1983]
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01/18/09 04:21 PM
01/18/09 04:21 PM
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jinx1983]
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01/18/09 05:04 PM
01/18/09 05:04 PM
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bex no worries hon. im on 17mg ala, i tolerated it well before, if anything stopped because of yeast flareup. Sounds a reasonable dose Jinx - though some may say too high, if you can handle the dose (mercury wise) then stick with it. The problem lies in your gut/bowels that is the issue here and what I am experiencing also. A dentist here told me that the gut is paramount to detox and with dybiosis etc, there is a big issue with the body eliminating any toxins you have chelated. He warned about this in regards to backfire/redistribution, since the gut is in no condition to deal with chelation or the toxins that are being moved through. This is why he refused to detox a mercury toxic person, unless they were pre-prepped first and he would treat their yeast. Only then, when they responded to treatment and the gut was in better condition - he would start them on a detox plan. And this is my problem and Jinx's. With mercury many people do have yeast and do have some gut issues. Which is quite normal considering, but again it depends how severe and what else maybe going on. However, for more severe/complicated conditions that affect the gut/immunity far worse, the person may suffer with problems in responding to detox/chelation. In Jinx's case, it's a many edged sword! As in mine.
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jinx1983]
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01/18/09 05:39 PM
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jinx1983]
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01/18/09 05:39 PM
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: Bex]
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01/18/09 06:20 PM
01/18/09 06:20 PM
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tell me about it bex! i feel lie jay freakin leno! and i know i know, im gonna feel really stupid afterwards.... yeast/suplhry-moblised mercury/mercury in the brain - i think a combination of the three causes those things bex. i didnt have this before that brain redistributon and andy says bipolar/mania is mercury in the hypothalamus. oh and a moment ago i did an enema, guess what came out? smile u buggers - pun intended - youre on camera!
Last edited by jinx1983; 01/18/09 06:28 PM.
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jinx1983]
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01/20/09 12:48 AM
01/20/09 12:48 AM
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bex, to me its candida for sure. what did ur candida look like when it umm... came out?:)
yeha they help me like now, things eem to have settled a bit, what happens if i dont use them? i get constipation since i cant go on my own, and i get toxic, and feel canddia growing in me. on the other hand if the water doesnt fully come out, toxins attribute to to this 'toxic enema' thing.
its a catch 22 situation really. Could well be candida Jinx - when you consider yeast alcohols and other toxins that may act as a stimulant to the nervous system etc. I didn't do enemas really. I did a few I think, but don't recall much about them, nor did I experience any real help. So I can't tell you want came out to be honest, so long ago now. I don't have too many issues with constipation etc, but do occassionally. I'd be wary of doing enemas too much, as I feel it might cause problems in the long run. I have not always heard great things about them. I would say emergency yes, but not something I"d make a habit of getting into. But then if you've tried other means to make yourself more regular without success and the situation is really that desperate, then who am I to know? I know the body requires raw materials too sometimes to act like a broom and get things going. To do too much for the body in that respect, without allowing things to function naturally I am sure may create more problems later on. Over flushing etc.
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: jinx1983]
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01/27/09 07:04 PM
01/27/09 07:04 PM
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"licorice root - sorry cant drink to much sugar in it, feeds candida" Licorice root tastes sweet, however it has no calories. It has antifungal properties. http://locus1.com/fdr/aph/inglicorice.htm"yougurt -cant take it, stopped it a couple of weeks ago because of suspcetced dairly allergy and i think its right." Dairy sensitivity is usually to lactose. Yogurt has very little lactose, since the cultures break it down.
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Re: This disease is HELL on earth.
[Re: JK98]
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01/27/09 08:07 PM
01/27/09 08:07 PM
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JK8, I drank Licorice tea and wound up relapsing. I had to start all over again. The sweetness in licorice tea evidentally isn't limited to the taste and this happened on more than one occassion after consuming it. It had no added sugar either.
Those who do not have severe lactose intolerance, can still consume small amounts of milk and may tolerate yoghurt just fine etc. Those who have a more severe case (like Jinx) may have to eliminate all dairy - all milk products contain lactose.
Yoghurt has lactase producing bacteria (lactic acid) that lowers the lactose content, but it will still contain a small amount regardless. It apparently converts it into glucose and galactose (which may still cause some issues in yeast regardless of lactose intolerance or not). In fact one candida website I belong to is so strict the ONLY dairy they advocate is butter.
Jinx do you handle butter?
Yoghurt is not allowed apparently. I do "ok" on it, but I have to be careful with it. I'm fine with butter (can eat any amount), but I cannot consume milk (not even small amounts) or cream. I don't know if it's lactose intolerance as such for me, or basically that the yeast feed on lactose or a combination of both problems.
The two suspect foods in my diet are yoghurt and raw nuts - which I may have to give up. Anything outside of meat/chicken/liver/eggs and low carbohydrate vegetables, water and herbal tea (as long as it's fruit/caffeine free) can be risky.
There are so many candida diet programmes out there that say this is ok, this isn't etc. Eventually you feel like tearing your hair out. But certainly the strictest programme I've seen is the one I mentioned with the only allowable foods above, until a person has improved/cured their candida to where they are able to include other foods again later on.
however, if a person's problem goes beyond the yeast and is an underlying chemical toxicity or viral etc, then it's possible that no matter how strict the programme, it will not cure the problem unless the underlying issue is treated. But it will likely help a person a great deal cope much better and may also help the body excrete a certain amount of those toxins in the process and deal better with existing problems. I find that when my body has been on an anti candida diet for long enough, I sense toxins trying to come out (even metals). It does indeed help the body.
So it certainly is a great part of any treatment programme.
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