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How does this happen? Always boggled me, I could take 9 grams in a day and feel great! Yet so many can't tolerate it? wow, DAMN. Sorry but I really tolerate it well and don't tolerate alot of other things well, but this was always great to me. Selenium makes me a mess though! So you got something on me there if you can take it, the natural form really messes me up, flares up Candida and makes me nutso lol.

thx sean, excuse my not czpitalizing...using 2 hands...too hard right now...i lied .. only did c and e today..yes more water, have to dig out my chzrcoal..thx again, k

Well I took 4 tabs chlorella for 2 days...my brain is a mess, body is as bad....never do that again...of course i read all Bex's warnings AFTER this .. brilliant. i'm taking c,e and selenium. anything help this reaction? thx kathy

Never ever take chlorella again. You absolutely have to avoid stuff like cilantro, chlorella, high sulfur food, NDF, HMD, MSM, Cysteine, Glutathione IV etc.

Also never take DMPS, DMSA, ALA if it's not on andy cutler frequent dose schedule.

The things above will make you horribly worse.

James thats for some I guess, I took Chlorella and Garlic for years and was all the better for it, I don't get all the hate on it in here or from Cutler, from some yes but not all people. She should avoid it it seems, yes I agree there. I don't know why but the things above or some of them made me and Russ better, Chlorella especially.

I have had some responses from people from either side. Either criticised for not being firm enough regarding chlorella and products like it and needing to be more emphatic about Cutler's protocol OR criticised for the total opposite (for critising products like chlorella and advocating Cutler's protocol).

I've upset people on both sides unfortunately. So I realise there really is no winning this argument.

If you do well on these products Sean, then perhaps it's wise to stick with it. Your body obviously hungers for what they contain and thrives on it. Perhaps it is those who are low in sulfur that require the extra sulfur. Maybe others who get hurt by it, already have high sulfur and the extra sulfur acts instead as a mobiliser? I don't know, I maybe completely wrong.

It may well be the way each body responds to different ways of detoxing. As I said, the odd thing was, there were times I felt REALLY good on chlorella and other times I went almost pscyho after it. It was unpredictable for me. So it was not something I was overly comfortable with, since i never knew which way it was going to go.

Mercury is not really something you want to mess with. I have no idea whether damage was done by mobilising this stuff too much or not. Certainly I went through a lot of hell at the time of doing it. I hate to imagine what may have been done in those times. Mercury itself, being poisoned for so many years of my life would likely have damaged me regardless though. So it's hard to say.

Maybe not everybody is going to find the Cutler protocol the answer, but it has a very good track record and is a logical and well thought out protocol and one that ought to be tried at least. I know there are some people who seem to do well on the very things that Cutler warns about. Perhaps they are the exception rather than the rule though. Certainly I've heard enough negatives on mobilising agents and other protocols to feel that a warning is necessary in any case. I was hurt enough myself to understand how it feels.

Yes but wouldn't it mobilize Mercury in me as well and mess me up regardless of thats what it does? I did't feel bad at all when on it, infact felt better, how is that so if it is bouncing it around? Thats all I ever wonder, did I harm my body more? If so I didn't feel it at all, just felt better while on it and almost immediately. I am scared to take it again now, pyschologically I might think it is hurting now and get symptoms, our mind is a powerful thing. I am glad I got here though, I will not use Cilantro again for a week or so like I did or other things, this site helped me out on that end and I am more cautious and safe about what to use now. BTW for the Candida Bex, ever tried Olive Leaf? I heard that is even in the bible! I have yet to try it but heard wonderful things, just want to know your thoughts on stuff like that. I know it's an antifungal so to speak, but does it do any damage or just good? I know your immune system (And mine) is the problem when it comes to Candida, so I might go that route and try to boost that up with minerals, probiotics and Reishi Mushroom, do that instead of using any antifungal at all.

Well, to me it's a mystery. I don't understand why for one person it hurts and another it helps. I think you ought to listen to your body. Though either way, I'd be wary of cilantro, since it apparently chelates brain mercury and is better used later once the body levels are down.

Sean, so far my response to attacking yeast with products has not proven helpful. Diet has ALWAYS been reliable and never harmful, only helpful. However, my experience with antifungals and probiotics has been the opposite.

Each time there has not just been "die off" but I seem to have a worse problem than when I started and often wind up having to be even stricter on the diet as a result. Whether this means the yeast adapts or returns stronger than before because of being attacked directly, or whether it's toxicity.

I am uncertain. But certainly for me it's been quite disastrous and my recent impact from probiotics is another example. Though I stopped taking them, I have been left with worse toxicity and sadly, my already restricted diet may now need to exclude raw nuts and acidophilus yoghurt. Once they were ok, after probiotics, they seem to be feeding the yeast as well as sugar.

That's the outcome I have had from probiotics. I'm still hoping for improvement, but so far nothing. It's been many weeks now. I'm living on exclusively meat and low carbohydrate vegetables. Whereas before, I was at least able to snack on raw nuts and sugar free acidophilus yoghurt.

I do not think I'll be trying anymore antifungals/probiotics, because frankly I don't know what I'm dealing with. I haven't really experienced much positives from either, if anything much negatives.

I think also that my condition maybe somewhat unique in respect to virus/infections, which maybe compounding problems and causing such unusual reactions to supplements (garlic is another one). So I can't really relate my experience to other people, since theirs could be entirely different and very positive.

I feel also that there is a way of treating/curing candida that must be done correctly in the correct stages in order to yield proper results. I have not done this completely. And certainly though I no longer tolerate nuts or yoghurt, it appears that they are not really so great anyway for a person with candida and can indeed feed yeast. I'm angry at giving them up, but at the sametime, if I wish to do the diet completely, then it maybe necessary anyway.

The stages are very necessary. Eliminating one of the stages may lead to nowhere. Since they appear to be very important in curing this condition.

Diet is first and that must be adhered to completely, or the person will usually continue to struggle. ONce the person has been on the diet properly for (possible months) a time, they may THEN be able to graduate to a stronger antifungal agent. If the person gets too much die off from that, they may need to stop and stick with the diet alone for awhile longer before trying again.

Only the last stage is implanting good bacteria and even then it must only be done once the first two stages have been done fully and for long enough that die off has warn off. If the probiotics cause too much negative effects, the person isn't ready for them.

Sadly, I rushed in and took them and the effects have been nothing short of disastrous. It would have been better had I never taken them and left things alone, than ending up how I am now. Diet alone is better than messing around and winding up a mess from taking products like this and winding up worse than when you started.

Probiotics always helped me and made me better, we are complete opposites! I get die offs sometimes from something, but it always helps after a few days! I can't relate to you at all on things! I can relate on Selenium though bugging me out, I felt like you did before on stuff like that! I was horrible, wanted to just knock myself out and get to sleep! Yeast got alot worse and I felt horrible. I can relate to you on some things Bex, but not on the yeast thing, I can eat alof of things still and be fine or just have a minor flare up most of the time. I can take probiotics too and be okay with that. I will work with you in here to help you find out what works and not for us, but our bodies are different and I tolerate alot better than you, except Selenium or some Kelp, my worst enemies at times for some reason Dulse is okay, but it does not have the the detox of Kombu, which can really mess me up after a few days or so. I have been where you have though, bugged out and felt nuts.

When I had candida, I found that probiotics only helped when I took 3 to 4 times the amount recommended on the bottle.

So, when I began taking about 6 to 8 capsules per day, the difference became obvious.

I say this to encourage those who are not getting results from probiotics to not be afraid to take more.

Probiotic Eleven