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Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? #49210
04/09/09 10:05 PM
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The -only- relief I get from this [shoot] is during a hot shower, and 10 mins afterwards. Then the misery sets back in. This is strange, anyone else get this?

Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: Ziggen4u] #49214
04/10/09 01:03 AM
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Yes and I've also had the opposite where a shower can set the symptoms off worse. I've had it make me better or worse. I never know what stage I'm going to go through next.


Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: Bex] #49217
04/10/09 02:01 AM
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Funny you should say this.

The shower is the only place that I don't feel the sinus-burn that is almost constant in this area due to the incessant aerial spraying. The water from the shower clears the air so I can breath without pain.

Even just 10 minutes in the shower allows me to experience significant relief from my symptoms. 30 minutes in the shower and I've re-invigorated.

When I step out, I experience that horrible sinus burn along with the salty-metallic taste in the air and my symptoms return within minutes. I should mention that I have a very sensitive sense of smell and taste, so I don't expect most people to sense these things, but I have met others who have.

I have resorted to wearing a chlorella mask most of the day, every day. It is the only way I can function.

This is why I have posted so often about chemtrails. This problem dwarfs amalgam fillings, and every other health issue we've ever experienced.

I never enjoy sounding dramatic, I'm just not that kind of guy, but in this case, simply stating the truth sounds really far out, but someone has to say it.

I believe we are beginning to experience the new holocaust. Those executing it call it "Population Control", but it will dwarf the previous holocaust, and this time, no one is exempt.

I do hope everyone will humbly take the time to explore the subject, regardless of how distant it is from their current world view. Here is a good place to start:

Chemtrail Forum

Many have said that they wish they knew about amalgam fillings long ago so they never have had them placed in their mouths.

Up until just a couple years ago, most people I spoke with about it said that they government would never allow something poisonous to be placed in people's mouths. Well surprise! Having lost the quality of my entire life (except 4 1/2 years) to mercury from amalgam fillings, I know better.

Well, now is everyone's opportunity to learn about the next monumental threat to our health. Please take an open-minded look into it, if not for yourself, then perhaps your children or family will benefit.

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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: Russ] #49291
04/14/09 12:31 AM
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The shower doesn't really help me, but I do notice that I often feel much better on days when there is heavy rain.

Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: Russ] #52955
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Originally Posted by Russ
The shower is the only place that I don't feel the sinus-burn that is almost constant in this area due to the incessant aerial spraying. The water from the shower clears the air so I can breath without pain.

Even just 10 minutes in the shower allows me to experience significant relief from my symptoms. 30 minutes in the shower and I've re-invigorated.


I feel much better under the shower, and I find spraying water with a spray can (the kind you use for spraying pot plants) in my face helps me breathe. So I carry a tiny spray can (with water and one drop of peppermint oil) with me everywhere I go. Of course, this might not be a very good solution for winter, but at the moment, the spray can solution improves my life dramatically.


We are made for these times.
Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: RachelBartlett] #52982
09/02/09 08:48 PM
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Have you tried cayenne pepper and oregano oil? They help greatly with sinus problems. Oregano oil can be expensive, but the NOW brand isn't that bad(around $12 an ounce vs $40-50 for some others). Cayenne pepper is quite cheap. I put it on my food. Make sure the cayenne pepper is quite spicy. Some of it is too mild and not effective.

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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: JK98] #52983
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Eating plenty of spicy mustard may also help.

Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: JK98] #52997
09/03/09 05:10 PM
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About the showers.... for me it's like that too.. both good, both bad.... it's called mercury or heavy metall redistribution from sweating it out in the showers....

Exactly like in the sauna!
Infact showers for me is like the light version of saunas.... saunas lasts longer... a day or two...

A shower really is nothing more than a detox "device"... camouflaged as a cleansiness "device" in public.... my thoughts... Needed to balance the constant ongoing heavy metall exposure and keep it on a level not too high to get sick.. not too low to get well... and i'm sure someone has calculated with the numbers on how often people generally shower, and how much people generally gets metalls into their bodies.

Yes.. showers do excrete poisons out of the body, as does the sauna in a grater scale!

Btw... i also use peppermint oil... in tea.. on sore muscles.. etc... It detoxes uric acid from the muscles... so does chili pepper... its the pipperine in the pepper or something i read about.. don't quite remeber, but pepper is good... but not white or black peppers... only red peppers or peppermint oil and such....

Peppermint oil helps me breath better too.. In gas form or vapour form it cleanses the lung tissues.... So i'we both read and experienced myself....

Btw... Oregano and Basil go hand in hand as a funguscide btw... powerful stuff... i get funny reactions from basil.... And i'm talking plant here... not "cheap" supplements... Basil plant in the supermarket is even cheaper.. but more effective!

Anyway... THE nr.1 respiratory herb i know of, IS.. Thyme!
Read about thyme.... buy some fresh thyme in the supermarket, and experiment...

Also... once again.... Thanks to mr. SquattingDuck.... please remeber to use the squating posture on the porcelain throne.... ALWAYS!


btw... Garlic = God! (And god is powerful.. so easy does it..)

smile

Last edited by Ole; 09/03/09 05:14 PM.

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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53005
09/04/09 12:56 PM
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Hey guys, from reading this thread it looks like some of guys need to "latch" your temperatures. No?

Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: squattingDuck] #53012
09/05/09 04:15 PM
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Today I swallowed a few teaspoons of Crystal Hot Sauce. That stuff really helps clear my sinuses.

Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: Ziggen4u] #53022
09/06/09 11:16 AM
09/06/09 11:16 AM
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Ziggen!! GO SAUNA!!! NOW! (It's what you have been looking for!)

But, take it slow and carefuly, 2 minutes sweat, 3 minutes shower in cold or luke cold water, then 2 minutes in the sauna again, 2-3 minutes cool showers, sauna, shower, sauna shower, 10-15 minutes brake, drink lots of water, maybe refill lost minerals too (salt?, copper?, etc)... but don't eat!.. then hit the sauna shower cycle again... until your head nearly can't take it anymore... you feel when you'we had enough..

You can build your self up to longer than 2-3 minutes tolerance in the sauna over time, but be careful.... i nearly had a body crash some time ago, too few minerals left in me i guess.... at that time the saunas felt abnormally hot even after only seconds in there (Temp was the same as always 90c).... so that may be a STOP or WARNING sign..

Anyway.. the sauna type that works best for me... is wet sauna, or i.e.. the steam sauna... steam rooms in comparison is mild.... for me... dry saunas may do the body better, and steam saunas do the head and top body regions best.... FIR saunas, i haven't tried yet... But the steam sauna is the best one to endure in for longer sessions with me.....

After doing this right, you may feel a pressure in your head / brain, like a metal ball inside your head, maybe a little dizzy (don't overdo the saunas), and maybe abit tired, but also rested and most of all RELAXED, and HAPPY, if not scared from beein too dizzy that is....

Anyway if all went right (not too much, not too little sweat), you will have a day in heaven or paradise afterwards!!

Day.2 will be ok... day.3 will give be less than ok and start giving you some metal redistribution around your body..... from there of it will take 3-4 days for me to settle the redistribution pains and muscle stiffnesses, after that i am overall better and with less muscle aches than before i started out!

I suggest eating raw broccoli before and after a sauna to refill lost minerals or to prepare... and maybe even garlic too.... both to loosen merc in the body pre to sauna, and to avoid redistro after sauna..... have not been doing that myself yet..... mixed reasons...

Btw... i'we been doing this with 1 amalgam and some small amalgam patches still in place... This is amongst other things mainly how i detox....

Works wonders!
Saunas... showers.... same thing.. think about it... only saunas is way stronger and lasts longer!

So Ziggen... if showers is what you cling onto for relief, then saunas may be for you! (that is if you can handle the heat and metal mobilisement and whatever sauna "dosages" you choose to test).. As said, you feel when you'we had enough for the day..

I pressured myself to my edge of tolerance some times, it gave results, but i don't recomend you overdo that too often or too close in time...

The body has to be refilled of lost minerals from sweating as said, or else you may crash....

Ziggen.... go try out the saunas... they're in the public swimming pools or fitness studios, atleast in my country... and it's cheap too, at least the first.. not the latter..


Cheers! smile
And take care!


If you are going to do something totally right, you got to do it totally yourself!
Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53024
09/06/09 11:19 AM
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PS! Don't use soap while your pores is open! think about the chemicals in the soap, amongst others.. EDTA... btw... i always end a sauna session in a cold shower and with no soap! A normal soapy shower you can take the day after.....

Remember... the skin is a two way valve!


If you are going to do something totally right, you got to do it totally yourself!
Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53025
09/06/09 11:28 AM
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And always remeber to drink a fair amount of water after the sauna session.. common sense....

Tell me Ziggen... have you not tried the saunas yet? you'we been on this board for a long time now right? for years?


If you are going to do something totally right, you got to do it totally yourself!
Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53026
09/06/09 11:31 AM
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Most of all... don't do saunas if you have blood pressure problems.. Please read all you can about saunas and sauna safety on the net before you jump into it... as always... i do my homework now before i try ANYTHING! (even a new herb, especially then).

Knowledge is pow'a buddy! smile
Take care!


If you are going to do something totally right, you got to do it totally yourself!
Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53027
09/06/09 11:43 AM
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Btw.... do look into "medical mushroms" on wikipedia as a starter on that subject... smile


If you are going to do something totally right, you got to do it totally yourself!
Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: Russ] #53028
09/06/09 11:47 AM
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Russ, maybe the pores in the skin also lets in chemtrail toxins.. sounds logical.. the body breaths via the pores sort of... as the pores functions as both inlets and outlets... Maybe some new clothing strategy?.. just a wild thought...


If you are going to do something totally right, you got to do it totally yourself!
Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53029
09/06/09 11:53 AM
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Long live all "hypocondriacs"! (People who take their helath seriously and in their own capable hands where western medicine promises no hope!)

There is cures for the most evils in this world, you just have to do the investigating yourself... Thank God for the internet!

Originally Posted by The Bible, Bex
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge!


Cheers!

Last edited by Ole; 09/06/09 11:55 AM.

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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: squattingDuck] #53034
09/07/09 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by squattingDuck
Hey guys, from reading this thread it looks like some of guys need to "latch" your temperatures. No?


Hey Duck, what did you mean by that exactly?
That what I or others said may be too far fetched or out there, and that we should cool down (mentaly)?

And btw... why haven't there been any replies or responses to what i just said about saunas and sweat detox? WHY!?

It's only logical in context whit the shower question! I pointed out the explanation here! And the solution to a more effective remedy than the showers, and with the same effects as a shower, but on a grander scale!

So WHY no responses to that?!

I'm begining to wonder if you guys and gals really are as well read as me!
I'm really begining to question that!

When i first got here... this board.. i was reliefed that this place had members on it, that were as well read and intelligent as my self.... but now...
Sorry my offence.. but....

Yeah..... you guys are the best, i'we not met any better folks than you.... never..

but... however... why the huge knowledge and belief in some things (alt medicine), and the ignorance in other stuff (alt medicine)? Why...

Like... why does some people come onto this board crying for help about their amalgams, and yet at the same time calling conspiracy theorists crazy?

If you go in..... you go all the way in! Thats how it works....

So.... I'm just abit anoyed..
It also seems to me that too few people on this board has tried saunas..
Maybe i'm wrong... maybe i haven't read enough threads....
But when i see people asking about why showers work so well for them, when not many other things work no more.... then i have to answer and say what i know...... It's the SWEAT....... go SAUNA! It's the same thing... same principle... just on a grander scale!

The answer to this thread is: TO SWEAT TOXINS! Either way... shower, hard word... SAUNA!

I'm just amazed why my logic iludes so many, so that there ain't much responses to what i point out.... thats all...

Not to offend too many of my new friends on this board... but... in my view... some people know a great deal about much (alt medicine and stuff like that), but seems to "laugh" at other things they haven't read into yet....
Maybe i just see the whole scenario wrong....

But what is that?
wha?

Just food for thougts.. thats all...

Either way.... this board's members (you guys and gals) are THE BEST!
Peace! smile


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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53035
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I'm interested in knowing if these after effects from the sauna compares to the after effects of a round of DMSA?

Originally Posted by Ole
Anyway if all went right (not too much, not too little sweat), you will have a day in heaven or paradise afterwards!!

Day.2 will be ok... day.3 will give be less than ok and start giving you some metal redistribution around your body..... from there of it will take 3-4 days for me to settle the redistribution pains and muscle stiffnesses, after that i am overall better and with less muscle aches than before i started out!


Thank you..


If you are going to do something totally right, you got to do it totally yourself!
Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53036
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Originally Posted by Ole
Not to offend too many of my new friends on this board... but... in my view... some people know a great deal about much (alt medicine and stuff like that), but seems to "laugh" at other things they haven't read into yet....
Maybe i just see the whole scenario wrong....


I guess.. some people are into garlic and cillantro and such...
some people are into artificial supplements for support with DMSA and such....
some people are into saunas, some into charcoal and bentonite, some into liver flushes and such...

However we all can't be into all areas at the same time... thats naturally.
And ofcourse people swear to what works for them... which way they have choosen to take.. and i know that some of those people tend to be closed minded about other paths... not all but some... i myself is open to most things i havent touched yet... i.e.. DMSA... but i'm scared of that....
Well.. i see a tendancy in others too, like myself, to be scared of other things that others do... well.. i myself is guilty there... especially regarding aftificial chelators... like DMSA... but.... openmindedness.... hmm...

Well.. like some good people here on this board is yelling... go try DMSA...
I yell go hit the SAUNA! Eat naturally, drop artificial supplement pills... and eat raw food instead... study what they contain and live life like it was the 1800's....

Anyway.. in regard to this thread.... sauna is the answer...
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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53037
09/07/09 04:14 PM
09/07/09 04:14 PM
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Btw.. i recently went talking to a FIR sauna salesman with his own private business, because i'm curious into trying and buying a FIR sauna...

He could tell me that he had chrons dis-ease, but most of it had burnt it self out over the years.... buuuuut... he had been doing saunas half an hour each day for many years and it had helped him get better... however he didn't attribute that to him getting better anyway... confused person... he just said saunas had helped, but TIME was what really had burnt out his dis-ease.. not the saunas... and especially not heavy metals when i mentioned that to him....

He got into sauna importing and selling after it had helped him... but heavy metals and that saunas had removed metals in him and therefor made him well over the years... he would not belive!

Saunas had helped him... nothing more to say about that... (his words), however his dis-ease had burnt it self out over the years... not because of the saunas and metals.... (his words).......

What ignorance.... however.. i tipped this guy about the squatting posture when on the toilet.... he responded with: well.. that must be why they have so few problems down in the asian countrys and such... yes i said... dead on... and i was just about to mention the ileocecal valve to him when he started explaining to me what i allready knew about his dis-ease.... he vent on to say its a problem between the large and small intestine that is his problems (chrons)... and i responded with.. well... there you have it.... squatting solves that problem! namely the ileocecal valve.... however.. then he said he didn't need to squat because his problems had burnt them selves out over the years, and the stuff about the ileocecal valve he didnt quite belive.... again.. what ignorance.... i tried to help the man... waking him up.... everybody need to squat for life! that simple.... symptoms or not.... and especially him with his chrons....

However.. what do i know if he took my wisdom into practise after i left... what do i know.... atleast i seeded a doubt in him about many things, and some new wisdom... maybe he will give it some thought... and try to squat.. and maybe he also will give metals a thought about why he had been getting better over the years.... and that saunas was the key.... not time.... maybe.... maybe i gave him something to think about..... maybe i helped a soul... i think so...

and maybe i get a discount on a sauna later too.... :D:D hehe...

Well... metal deniers..... he got himself well, but still doubts metals in context with saunas and illnesses, and belives saunas was only for his well beeing at the same time while his dis-ease burnt it self out over time.... i.e.. he belives time cured him, not the saunas... but they helped him endure.. that time...

Ignorance.........

However this nice person will let me try a fir sauna for free when i want to....
Maybe then he have read some of what i reccomended to him... and is greatful...
what do i know...

However... i'm looking forward to trying the FIR... because it has heat elements under the feet... and the feet muscle stiffness is what i have a hard time fixing with an ordinary sauna.. due to the heat is hotest in the top of the room.....
So i normaly can't sweat out enough of the lower body...
Maybe the FIR with all its lower body heat elements can fix this...

Anyway... belivers... non belivers... sceptics.. and so on...
Some things have to be belived to be seen... (Sorry i ripped that of from someone on this board...) but wise words....

But... this salesman sort of laughed at what i said about saunas's real explanation as detox devices and not pleasure devices.... or well beein devices...
and he also didn't belive that an ordinary person like myself could know so much about health and the body as a "doctor man"....

He had his smiley doubtful face on about that... to me....
You cant possibly know everything he said.... or.. atleast that much he said...
Yes i do i answered back... and he smiled in disbelief even more...
Well.. his loss.... anyway maybe i seeded some wisdom and doubt in him, helped a soul, AND i also get to try a FIR for free....

Thats well....
(Sort of off topic yes, but not really..)
Too many people belive spa's are only for pleasure... not detox..
but if im not wrong... the word spa means detox.... someone told me...
The same with saunas... i see too many people after the swimming pool, entering the sauna just a few minutes and never come back in.. as if the sauna was just a great body dryer.....

THEY DONT KNOW..... It's like a bird taking a bird bath... into the sauna just to dry off.... thats it...

I have even talked to rheumatics in the sauna sharing the sauna with me that has said... yeahhh.... the heat is good for the rheumatism... but when i told them why..... they became sceptic..... heat is good for auto immune dis-eases because heat disolves fat stored metals and that is why they feel better in heat or a sauna... however.. they will not belive that depthy explanation of it... when i tell them...

IGNORANCE... im so sick of it.... small thinking...... poor mainstream people...
Atleast i try to help them and wake them up.... maybe i do seed some new thoughts in them... maybe not....

Anyway.... saunas are to great a help to be overlooked!

Cheers good people!
You are here because you are better!

But allways be openminded to everything... not everyone here seems to be that.. sadly... even on here.. amongst the best of the best... as said on the posts over... that still amazes me...

Well.. heat is the topic here... and shower heat... so I say once again.. go SAUNA!
Have a nice day...
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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53038
09/07/09 04:52 PM
09/07/09 04:52 PM
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Btw.. I know for sure that I will certanly not latch my heat (mentaly) down...
Sorry if i misunderstood Duck...


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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53084
09/09/09 11:35 AM
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Sorry Ole, Just been super busy and should be grateful for folks like yourself with such experience and dedication to your health. Just know that you are being herd but that sometimes through a "clouded" ear.

You are right about the saunas though, I must agree. They can bring great healing in many ways. What I was talking about is different that what you are thinking though. I don't use it to focus on detoxing. Although I will get the benefit of detox it is not my goal. Let me digress a bit.

Human beings are to operate at a temperature around 98.6 degrees for optimum health. Many of us are not at that temperature, usually we are lower. The lower our core body temperature is the worse off we are. The longer it takes for our bodies to reach normal operating temperatures each day the worse off we are. We need this operating temperature to be close to the previously mentioned temperatures to allow our enzymatic pathways to function correctly. Billions of enzymatic reactions occurs in our bodies each day and they operate best when the right temperatures are met. Just the blink of an eye lid totals hundreds of thousand of enzyme reactions. Even 1 degree lower and we are dealing with many potential problems within our bodies.

When we wake up in the morning we naturally have a lower body temperature. That temperature can be a degree and a half lower. Our bodies should fairly quickly warm up to a preset temperature. If that doesn't happen then there is a problem.

The really cool part about all this is that it is not impossible to fix the problem once you know what the problem is. Just like every other living species on this planet, we too need our temperatures correct to live and live well.

Ole you hit the nail on the head about the saunas too. But I don't do it like you do since I'm working at a different goal.

To retrain your body to get up to the right temperatures after waking I make my own sauna. The only cost is heating the pot of boiling water. My temps when waking was about 97.2 and would stay at that point until about 3:00 pm. Then It would spike and go to 98.1 at 3:00 pm and upward of 98.7 after 5:00 pm.

One of the biggest problems I had was getting the right temperature readings. I tried it under the tongue, in the ear, and on the forehead. I found all those unreliable as my readings were all over the scale. Some say that the best thermometer are mercury filled, but being on amalgam site I don't think y'all would let that fly! But I have found that the BD thermometers at Wolly World works pretty darn good. I have two and they are only .1 off if any at all times. Now where to stick that thing? hmmm, rectally. Always. There is not a better place. Get good lube though.

If you are like me though you will become very well in tune with you temperatures and will know exactly what degree you are currently running really soon. Not a bad thing though. When you know that you have a low temperature problem, then you are ready to fix it.

I think that too often when our temps are read and it reads low that the thinking is that it's ok or that it is normal. Don't buy into that, believe me when I say that when you are running at the optimal temperatures you are better off and you will feel better. That's why diabetics always have lower temperatures and aging people have low temperatures.

Also for you that are fighting parasites, 1 degree makes a huge difference in one's ability to rid yourself of parasites. The body "Fevers" for a reason.

Last edited by squattingDuck; 09/09/09 12:03 PM.
Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: squattingDuck] #53087
09/09/09 05:27 PM
09/09/09 05:27 PM
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Duck!

You amaze me! smile
What insight!

You now your sh.. about the human body! Thats for sure.
Lots of new info for me to consider, thank you once again man... em... man right? (I'we been wrong on this board once before..) There are lots of smart girls on this board... so easy to get it wrong with "unisex or neutral" nicknames... (Hehe.. a duck has two sexes too you know.. lol.)

Anyway i'm sorry that i "reacted" as i did... You held back and assumed that everyone in this thread knew what you were talking about...
To latch the temperature.... out of context somewhat... you see what i mean... I will admit that i took some offence as i misunderstood and thought it may have been targeted on me from what lenghty posts i wrote full of technobable about helath and body... but.... nah.. ok..
On this board most of that is welcome... thank God...

I'm just too used to "ordinary" lame people that don't like too detailed conversations and info like what i shared..
I will have to forget about that when i'm here on this board.. People here are sane and smart!
Anyway there are some........ some people who go "half the way in" even here.... and you never know what kind of person you talk to..
I mean.. many people are smart on lots of stuff.... but blind and ignorant on other stuff.... i find that puzzling...

Anyway you get the picture... you're not one of them! (I'm just edgy about ordinary nobrainer people you find "offline" in the real world)

Well.. skipping.....
That temperature info man.... great! I didn't know.... BUT.. i have been giving it thought in another way lately..
Fat melts at 40c... and the body should be at around 37c to my knowledge... (Didn't bother yet to convert your farenheit temps, sorr..)
So.. anyway that means that in the body.. fat is near its melting point at all times... or.. sort of in the middle of two agregate states.. solid and fluid.... and that makes it easy (like a balanced semiconductor in electronics) to both store fat (semi solid, or solid), and chemicly react it in a fluid or semi fluid state.... I mean... fat in the body due to the core temp.. is like an LCD screen... in a "crystalic state" inbetween agregate states...

And btw.. that is also why there is so little extra heat needed to detox fat souluble toxins... and also.. my own theory.... why the blood clogging fat "theory" or "fact" may be bullshit... because fat is never solid in the warm human body.... it may lean towards solid state 2-3% if the core temp is off by .5 degrees maybe.... and maybe that is enough to do damage and settle to clog the artheries..... i don't know...
But it sound very little.... but on the other side.. the body is such a delicate balanced machine... so... it's possible...

Maybe a "cold" body at 35-36c really is enough for fats to harden enough to cause problems.....
And btw... as you say..... enzymatic reactions.... Well.. it makes sense! Chemical reactions are temerature and pressure dependant for the right conditions and wanted, or "known" chemical reactions!

Blabla... well.. Duck.. you amaze me... what insight..... like my self...
And you too btw is highly dedicated to your helath... think..... to bother measuring the temp rectally each day.... who does that... WHO.....
No one on street... not ordinary people... but people who wanna make the very best out of live with the best body in the best shape it can ever be..... Namely... HYPOCHONDRIACS.... HEHEHEHE... or..... hmm that word is in error really... It should be called.. hyper conditionalists!! really... hehe... People who are not -hypo, but +hyper about their well beeing! smile

Hehe.. also.. in the western world... who bothers to climb the throne on the bathroom each time? who.... "next to none".. but i do.... permanently now.. thanks to you!

So beeing dedicated to health... well.. all of use here are...

You say btw.. that you get to know your body temps better after getting aware of the temp reading and how you feel.. after a while.. yeah.. i can imagine.. Awarenes man... that is everything... i remember when i was young and hit the sauna and got a headache, but thought nothing of it... I had many amalgams back then.... Awareness!! You can't change oil on you car if you don't see the oil lamp flashing...

Btw.. also remember that low body temperature is mercury related too... and what has accumulated lots and lots of in elderly people? metals and other sh.. Mercury also interferes with enzymes and hormones.... so... low temps may indeed be directly mercury caused.. OR... an imbalance of the other metals.. the "good" metals... like copper and iron.... for example... for other reasons maybe... or the same.. one can't know for sure... Bad health ain't always just mercury....

About parasites... mhm.... food for thought what you wrote... thankyou!


Duck!
You are a good soul, and a well read buddy with great understanding and resposibility for health!
btw... are you asian by etnicity? (old asian knowledge rules!)

Cheers man! smile


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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53088
09/09/09 05:39 PM
09/09/09 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by squattingDuck
To retrain your body to get up to the right temperatures after waking I make my own sauna. The only cost is heating the pot of boiling water. My temps when waking was about 97.2 and would stay at that point until about 3:00 pm. Then It would spike and go to 98.1 at 3:00 pm and upward of 98.7 after 5:00 pm.


Very interesting! Too few people are aware of this i guess...
Duck... you should plot this data in a spreadsheet and make daily and weekly graphs.... It would be both fun and informative about your progress!

Maybe this is directly related to how we feel during diffrent hours of the day..
That is what you say in my understanding... and i must agree.

Wow... again.. what insight.... btw... i just hate the old "butt meter".. hehe..
Worth it yes.. but.... butt.... hehehe.... many times a day.. yeah well.... i'm not going to do that.... but its good to know about.... anyway.. i'm not there yet.. hahaha..

You go on and fix yourself up that way... and share the results, maybe with some graphs and data... logs of how you feel in comparison to temps and such... maybe....

Atleast.. what counts is your insight and actions, and well beein from those!
smile

Btw.. a friend of mine a "fanaticly" aware of his palm temperature before and after he has eaten somehing... he says... feel... cold hands... now i'm hungry... and later he says.. feel now.. warm hands.. now i'm full...

So, there is something about this!
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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53089
09/09/09 06:16 PM
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Hmm.. Duck... i just ran the numbers through the F to C converter... (temps)

36.2c when waking, 36.7c 3 o'clock, and climbing toward 37c until 5 o'clock...
Maybe its circadian rhythm related, AND eating habital related...

Maybe.. a good breakfast will help up the temperature in the morning?!
Sounds logical.. do you eat breakfasts?
From this logical figure.. i'd say and guess that you do not...

I have also been wondering why we humans sleep, need to sleep, or sleep at all..
Why.... Our brains, and whole body electrical systems doesn't slumber at all 24/7... so why do we have to loose contiousness for 7-9hrs each day...
Not for maintenance! Because the brain is just as active.... in another operations mode perhaps.. but still...
Anyway.. this chemical aspect of it may be the answer to why that is so...
Because, if the body goes into slumber mode chemically, than we can't function normally either.. as if it did electrically..

So the question remains.... is low body temp during sleep normal? or a result of mercury interferance for example....
Normal i guess.. as metabolism don't need to be so active during immobilised states... (sleeping).. just as with blood pulse....

The body has a pulse rate on demand system.... it seems it also has a body temperature regulator on demand system too... and maybe also electrical "storm" system on demand.....

so... what does this insight tell us...
Is sleeping for maintenance... or is it artificial.. like aging... because of toxins??
We know that we don't need to sleep because of electrical shutdown.. or?
Does the brain shut down the personality area to conserve power to fix other areas of the body while sleeping?... i don't know if a partially electrical shutdown is really needed... but a chemical wholebody slumber sounds logical....
Anyway.... if the body slumbers chemically... then it would also affect the bio chemical to bio electrical convertion or generator systems too.. so.. electrical partially slumber would be required when in an chemicly slumber, to avoid draining stored electrical energy while not generating it... blablablalbalbal...

Or... maybe.... as in another theory of mine... We need to sleep to dump back knowledge we have gained on our waking physical plane of existence, back to the spirit realm... our higher selves.. God.. the source... The one which is all of us..... together...
Like.. we are all cells in gods body, or individual learning "computer" programs in the physical world, and after a day of learning, we upload our knowledge to God while sleeping, or really beein away from our bodies in the spirit world..... with God.... hmmmmm....

But then... Why ain't our bodies constructed to do that in realtime while we're awake? as allmighty as we are constructed?
Becasue the soul has to deliver the learned stuff it self.. not the body?
And the soul can only be at one place at the same time??
Nahh.... (The soul is omnipotent.. maybe.. it should be...)
Parts of the soul anyway... the higher levels... not on plane 3 where we are.. that is... but... hmmmmmmmmmmm... sigh...

Understanding God.... Life... The spiritual...... in a complete way without holes or gaps in our understanding..... hmm.... futile! atleast from the physical awareness plane that we now are present in.....

Anyway... I'm just trying to live forever... in this body! (Understanding it is key!)


Food for thought really this temperature business..

Cheers!
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Last edited by Ole; 09/09/09 06:33 PM.

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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53092
09/09/09 06:35 PM
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Sorry for the huge load of off-topic stuff Ziggen!


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Re: Do hot showers relieve your symptoms? [Re: BluSky] #53643
10/08/09 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ole
Long live all "hypocondriacs"! (People who take their helath seriously and in their own capable hands where western medicine promises no hope!)

There is cures for the most evils in this world, you just have to do the investigating yourself... Thank God for the internet!

Originally Posted by The Bible, Bex
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge!


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