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Does anyone have a scientific explanation for why Cutler says to stop a round if this happens? Why would a person not simply be able to take the next dose on time and get back on track?

I ask because it's happening to me today. My alarm didn't go off last night for that particular dose and I took it 6 hours after my bedtime dose. I then went back to sleep and carried on dosing as usual.

I'm not feeling very good though -- after two days of feeling fantastic! -- I'm tired, run-down, and my stomach is churning, all of which tend to be mercury symptoms for me. I'd like to persevere and hope these fade away but I don't really understand what's happening. I didn't want to take a chelation break yet, I'd just started feeling better!

Any help?

I don't know but i do know for sure that you have to stop.

Well I'm not stopping. I just wondered if anyone knew what actually happens. I know that the mercury starts to redistribute; what I don't understand is why simply taking the next scheduled chelator dose doesn't put a stop to it and allow you to carry on from where you were.

Linda, when you stop taking the chelator, the levels of chelating agent in the blood drop (as you know). So the mercury that remains, gets reabsorbed. However, as this is happening, when you take a late dose, it spikes the levels immediately back up again dramatically. Thus causing more random movement of mercury, the very thing you wish to avoid.

I was wondering something about this, and it would explain things. Seeing as how I've carried on as usual today, I'll see how things pan out. It would have been best if I'd stopped but I wanted to dig my heels in because -- you know how it is -- you start feeling better after all that time, you don't want to put an end to it. I have to remember that if I've felt like that twice now, I'll feel like that again. Flippin' alarm clock (dawn simulator actually) has been troublesome lately. They're expensive to replace but it might be a good idea to do so.

Thanks!

Its because the mercury will redistribute, making you feel off, and making it very hard to continue the round. A late dose does not fix this because ALA will move through the entire body and it has no way of targeting the mercury that just got redistributed as opposed to the mercury scattered all throughout your body. You will also notice more symptoms than usual after stopping for the second time as well.

I say just see it as a lesson learned. An hour is the latest you should miss a dose by. I was dosing at 4 hours at night, which Andy says is OK, but switched to 3 hours because it really does make a difference to how I feel, and I actually sleep better dosing at 3 hours.

Yes don't do it again.

I know how that feels Linda, I did the same thing a few times. But I warn you, it can hurt and hurt bad. I had one episode where I missed a dose of DMSA. I took it late, I think about 2 hours late. BAD move. One hour you maybe able to get away with.

Well, I redistributed toxins/metals into the gut. So bad, that I was in a lot of pain and distress and could not improve. I was unable to chelate after that, until I went on a candida diet and reduced the massive amount of candida that must have flourished upon the redistribution of toxins into the gut.

Awful! And that's not counting the other possible effects that can occur. Very bad!

Take it safe and steady! If you hurt yourself by redistribution, then you won't be doing much at all. If you keep being patience and chelate safely, you'll likely progress much better, smoother and not hurt yourself and need recovery time because of doing the wrong thing.

It is worth being careful. I'd hate to see you get hurt by backfire. It's nasty and can be long term effects too.

The damage is done when the level of chelating agents in the blood gets low, and redistribution occurs. If you keep going after a missed dose, then in effect there is two redistribution periods within the round.

I have so many sleep problems, and that makes chelating so difficult for me.

JK, I had subtle, yet adverse reactions to various supplements that would make sleep very difficult for me. Once I stopped taking these, I would fall asleep so much easier. This is going to be different for everyone but the things which effected my sleep were: Betaine, Milk Thistle, Methylcobalamin, turmeric, and to a lesser extent, selenium and iodine.

Many of these supplements didn't affect me adversely in the daytime, yet had very noticeable effects (individually) on my sleep patterns. Once I stopped them I could sleep so much better, and if I introduced any one of them I would have a hard time sleeping, specifically falling asleep after waking up around 1-2am.

Interesting. When i was more toxic, methylcobalamin and selenium caused me to have insomnia...

Thanks to everyone for the posts. I've gradually been feeling better throughout the day so it looks like I'll survive, but from now on I will regard a late chelation dose as A Serious Thing. I take it that the redistribution this causes, followed by a late dose, is worse than the inevitable end-of-round redistribution?

It's interesting how symptoms come and go. I've had a foggy brain for weeks now and it's making it difficult to do this Friday course I've started. I need to remember things I've read and heard and they seem to go through me like a sieve sometimes. But my diet, with which I'm still struggling, is probably part of that. I can tell you this: visits to gourmet chocolate shops are a BAD idea for recovering chocoholics.

here's a guesser: how do u go about with chelation if u keep missing doses because of dementia, that u cant get rid of unless u chelate, and even u have alarms set the whole day to remind u, u either:

a) still woke up barely aware dring the night and just turn the clock off and go to bed again (without taking the dose)
b) u forget things like plugging ur phone to charge the battery and it gies dead andu miss the dose again
or
c) u dont rememer whether u actuallt taken or not the previous dose, though u keep counting the doses to see if everhtinh matches, but then again u are not sure how many doses there are in the first place?
d) u forget stuff like buy the drinking water or supplements at the drugstore, and they ran out during the roundlike lets say at night,esp the water wiothout whcih u cant go about (and u cant drink the tap sh* cant u?)so u ahev to stop the round

again, ebcause of memory.

and atcually almost eevery second roud gets sscrewed up like this, but u really cant go forwoard if u get ahead of ur dementia unless u chelate, but again, accroding to rules u should stop and ty again. YET th mistakes hapen again, so wat u do? u keep chelating. But, should u?Oh no u shouldnt, u should stop and do it again RIGHT. But if u keep stpping u get more amount of shorter rounds, thus more redistribution still, same as when u continue a missed dose.

fun eh?

i think i have a solution for this problem.

Here is what i do:

1. Take one bottle and write "DMSA" on it. Put 24 capsules DMSA in it.

2. Take one bottle and write "ALA" on it. Put 24 capsules ALA in it.

Then write down your chelation schedule for 3 days:

like: 3AM 6AM 9AM etc... You have a total of 24 doses each round.

Every time you take your chelating agents/antioxidants write it down.

It should look like this: x = chelating agent, a=Antioxdant, (x.xx) = exact time

3AM x,a (3.10)
6AM x (6.03)
9AM x,a (8.55)

If you are not sure if you have taken the chelating agent count your capsules.

At the end of the 3 day round you should have used up all your 24 capsules if you did it properly.

Without this trick i couldn't do it either.

Anyone have a better idea? Would love to hear it.

I aleady have this chelation schedule wirtten down, and the bottle for those, but maybe i should just divide the casules for the whole 3 days in advance and not as i go along. (tho oragznisning stuff overall with this dementia is just impossible 90% of the time)

thx

oh but what do u do, when u wake upduring the night and arenot so aware to rememer tyo atke the dose and u go to sleep after swtthcn of the phone clock?

I have one of those 7 day plastic supplement containers, with 7 compartments, one for each day of the week. I wrote an hour on each one, instead of the day of the week, and one has two times on it, since I have 8 doses for every 24 hours. I put one capsule in each compartment, 2 in the one compartment with two times on it. Then at the scheduled time I remove the capsule and leave it empty, so if its empty I know I took that dose. I wait until it is empty then refill it.


I also set my alarm away from the bed so I actually have to get out of bed, otherwise I may just shut off the alarm without waking up.

Tricky business, but its what we got to do to get healthy.

The clock has to be away from your bed. Otherwise it won't work.

When i was very toxic, sometimes i would stay up the whole night so i would not miss a dose and ask somebody to wake me up during the day when i was sleeping and make sure i was taking my dose.

You have to be creative: use time switches, different clocks, get help from friends, parents, relatives etc...

gary i have this 7 day pill box myself, havent thought of that! thx guys

(ps. gary, sent u an email)