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Another One Hits the DMSA #50418
05/21/09 08:57 PM
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Yes, having had as much chemtrail onslaught as I can handle, today I began DMSA, every 4 hours, empty stomach.

I'm really curious to see how this works out for me because whenever they spray, I've been getting horrible symptoms identical to mercury symptoms. When they stop spraying, all of the symptoms go away within about an hour, except the ringing in the ears. That takes about a day to go away.

Unfortunately, you can no longer tell if spraying is taking place just by looking at the sky for chemtrail plumes. They now have short plumes that dissipate quickly that create a milky haze in the sky (in our area anyway). A few months ago, the plumes covered the sky daily. Now it's changed dramatically. This same thing happened in Jamestown:

http://urlbam.com/ha/M001M

I was working outside today for several hours and watched jets go right over us every 2 minutes for hours. The milky haze started building up in less than an hour. The salty-metallic taste to the air and the burning sinuses only takes about 20 to 30 minutes to get to the ground when spraying begins.

The fact that chemtrail spraying cause me to have symptoms identical to mercury toxicity makes me wonder. I also have a couple additional symptoms that I have not previously associated with mercury:

Dry eyes, especially when waking up (barium)
Dry feet (souls especially) (barium)
Stomach pain (probably barium)
Burning sinuses (aluminum)
Achy muscles (perhaps aluminum)

So, it will be interested to see how this goes.

There's more but I have to go and will try to post later.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50426
05/22/09 12:39 AM
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What dosage are you using?

Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: JK98] #50427
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It has been clear as day here the last three days Russ! BLUE SKIES BEYOND BELIEF, I love it.

BTW make sure you take it slow man, good luck to you my friend.

My muscles have ached alot too latey mostly upon arising, but could be the candida die off from the Ginger root?

Last edited by Sean; 05/22/09 01:21 AM.

In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50432
05/22/09 02:56 AM
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Russ - dry eyes, dry soles of feet and achy muscles could easily signal thyroid problems, which are common with environmental illnesses. Have you have free T3 and T4 levels tested?

Nicola

Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: imgeha] #50435
05/22/09 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JK98
What dosage are you using?


25mg - I'm starting off easy to see how this goes.

Originally Posted by Sean
It has been clear as day here the last three days Russ! BLUE SKIES BEYOND BELIEF, I love it.


Glad to hear. Hope you're feeling better too. I wish we had the same here. The spraying has been very intense here -- horrible.

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Russ - dry eyes, dry soles of feet and achy muscles could easily signal thyroid problems, which are common with environmental illnesses. Have you have free T3 and T4 levels tested?


Haven't had T3/4 levels tested.

The dry souls got really bad when the chemtrail spraying got intense in Jamestown. I moved from there to here specifically to get away from it. It was much milder here (long story).

Within a few weeks, my souls got softer and almost completely returned to normal. When the spraying got more intense here, they began to return to being dry.

The same thing happened with my eyes. In Jamestown, they were so dry in the morning that I literally could not open my eyes in the morning until I gently rubbed them to get them to tear up bit. In fact, the intensity of the problem was directly proportional to the amount of spraying during the night.

The problem was immediately gone when I came here, but now, with the intense spraying lately, it's back a little, just milder.

I think the dry souls and dry eyes may be a result of barium exposure, which has a very drying effect on both the body and the atmosphere, not to mention the soil.

The achy muscles show improvement when I take a thyroid supplement, so I think you're right.

The bottom line here is, when they stop spraying, all -- yes, every last one -- of my symptoms disappear within about an hour or two (except ringing in the ears, which takes about a day to go away). I begin feeling just fantastic.

It is astonishing that this is happening right before our eyes.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50438
05/22/09 11:04 AM
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Many with mercury toxicity have trouble converting t4 to t3. part of this may be due to a selenium deficiency. Selenium is necessary for the conversion, but mercury binds to selenium in the body and makes it unusable. Mercury can also clog up the iodine binding sites on the thyroid. One good test for hypothyroidism to to take your temperature as soon as you wake up before you start moving around. If it is low, that is a sign of hypothyroidism.

Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: JK98] #50439
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As long as the 25mg dose isn't too high for you...you should feel quick relief from the symptoms that you think are mercury related. DMSA is more attractive to mercury than your body tissues so any mercury inhaled should bind to the DMSA as opposed to your body tissues.

It still is possible that there is something in chemtrails that is reacting or mobilizing deeply stored mercury in your body. I would not rule that possibility out.

Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: gdawson6] #50450
05/22/09 07:02 PM
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Well, this is day 2 and I seem to be doing OK. The spraying has been much less than the 2 previous days, so that is a factor as well.

Nevertheless, I'm not having any kind of detox reaction.

Wondering: Since DMSA transports mercury via the kidneys, I would guess extra water is a good idea, No?


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Many with mercury toxicity have trouble converting t4 to t3. part of this may be due to a selenium deficiency. Selenium is necessary for the conversion, but mercury binds to selenium in the body and makes it unusable. Mercury can also clog up the iodine binding sites on the thyroid. One good test for hypothyroidism to to take your temperature as soon as you wake up before you start moving around. If it is low, that is a sign of hypothyroidism.


I'm actually taking 2 to 3 of Vitamin E with Selenium per day, so I hope that's taking care of the selenium lost to mercury.

I'm also getting extra iodine via the Thyroid Support that I'm taking.

Funny thing. Cutler (in the Amalgam Illness book) says that some people have elevated temperature with mercury while other have lowered temperature.

I definitely had -- when my amalgams were in -- elevated temperature, but Laura had lowered temperature and was always cold.

Thanks for the info and advice.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50457
05/22/09 09:08 PM
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"I definitely had -- when my amalgams were in -- elevated temperature, but Laura had lowered temperature and was always cold."

I have had below normal body temperature, and often feel too hot. Very strange. I guess the mercury affects the hypothalamus.

So you have no reaction at all to the DMSA? I guess that is a good sign, although the chances for a reaction increases as the round progresses. Perhaps it might mean that you need a higher dosage, or that you don't have much in the way of heavy metals outside your nervous system, and that you need ALA together with the DMSA to flush out the mercury from your nervous system. DMSA usually doesn't provoke strong reactions with moderate doses. ALA is much more likely than DMSA to cause a strong reaction. You should feel something though, at least a mild reaction.

Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: JK98] #50458
05/22/09 11:51 PM
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The fact that we are here and just mention Chemtrails as a way of life because thats what it is now is flat out sickening, just thought of that again.

Spraying something in the skies that can harm you, are you serious? I mean are you really serious? What kind of world do we live in with this crap?

If the Chemtrails are whats keeping Russ for getting well and he gets worse then he will never live a normal life while they are doing it, and they will keep doing it and that pisses me off.

Good luck on the DMSA and tell us how it goes Russ, keep us updated.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Sean] #50460
05/23/09 01:02 AM
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Russ, if you don't feel any effect from the DMSA this round, then perhaps you could add ALA next round or the round after. Perhaps you could try 12.5 mg of ALA +25 mg DMSA every 3 hours. At the end of the round, your last few doses could be just DMSA. Some people get a strong reaction to ALA, although the reaction is much less when taking DMSA with the ALA. ALA might be a great help for the brain fog.

Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: JK98] #50539
05/26/09 04:18 AM
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I've been very skeptical and patient before making any judgments about DMSA, but let me tell you, there IS a difference.

Chemtrails have been causing me to have a number of severe physical issues, and most of them are identical to mercury poisoning.

DMSA has taken away about 75% of those problems.

Here is a list of health issues that I have when spraying occurs (which is daily!):

http://urlbam.com/ha/Uzz

These symptoms have been manageable because I've been wearing a wet mask nearly all my waking hours. Nevertheless, the symptoms still do occur, and they become severe when I have to take the mask off for any amount of time (doing technical support on the phone).

Now, the only symptoms that remain with the DMSA are:

Cracking joints
Sinus Burn
Salty-metallic-chemical taste to the air
Headache

All of the other symptoms are gone during the past week while taking DMSA (except during really, really heavy spraying). This is a first since they have begun spraying.

I'm extremely excited about this and am looking forward to increasing the dosage at some time in the future.

I also am curious what will happen when I add ALA.

This is a very positive development for me and I thank you all for convincing me to give it a try.

And yes, Sean, isn't it crazy that we live in a world where the government can spray us, leaving huge plumes in the sky and a certain small percentage of the population (who are more sensitive) tasting and smelling the air, but no one seems to want to know?

There are few things in my life that have been more astounding to me than this.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50543
05/26/09 11:21 AM
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"I also am curious what will happen when I add ALA."

It is hard to say how you will react to ALA, which is why when you add it you should start at a low dosage, perhaps just 12 and half mg. Sometimes people get a sense of euphoria while taking ALA, while others have greatly increased symptoms while taking it. ALA doesn't just chelate metals, it is also has many other functions in the body. The side effects of ALA are much less when it is taken together with DMSA. This round I am using 75 mg ALA+50 mg DMSA. Next round I plan to use 100 mg ALA + 50 mg DMSA.

Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: JK98] #50559
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I'll try adding it in before too long.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50571
05/28/09 12:42 AM
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Russ, a thought just occured to me. Those aircraft flying over may be releasing plenty of aldehydes. Many here are aldehyde sensitive. Candida produces plenty of aldehydes. Are you sensitive to perfumes and colognes and cigarette smoke? Those also have plenty of aldehydes. If so, have you tried taking some measures to detoxify from aldehydes? Do you take a molybdenum supplement?

http://candidapage.com/aldehyde.shtml



Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: JK98] #50588
05/28/09 06:25 PM
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Thanks for the information.

I read it and it's very interesting, and good information for those with candida.

Concerning chemtrails, what is know is this:

- Chemtrails cause the same symptoms (exactly) in me that mercury causes.

- Chemtrails cause a few extra symptoms that are known symptoms of barium and aluminum toxicity.

I predicted a while back that chemtrails would cause an increase in deaths from cancer, aneurysm, and heart attacks, and based on my personal knowledge of the people around me who have experienced (or died from) these things, they are indeed greatly increased.

The salty-metallic taste (that I taste in the air when hey spray) is in line with the tests performed that show barium salts and aluminum present in high amounts in the air.

When no chemtrails are being sprayed, I feel fantastic.

Thanks again for the info, but based on tests and by my own personal symptomology (and some of those I know), I believe they are spraying mercury, aluminum, barium, and probably several other substances that may include lead, arsenic, mycoplasma, and mold spores.

Of course, acetaldehyde are fungal by-products so mold spores could be contributing to people with MCS and the host of other related diseases, so...

You may be on to something.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50621
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Russ, have you ever tried taking malic acid? I just found a few websites that claim that magnesium malate(magnesium with malic acid) helps the body excrete aluminum. Malic acid also gives some people relief from muscle ache and more energy. It is worth trying.

Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: JK98] #50623
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Originally Posted by JK98
Russ, have you ever tried taking malic acid? I just found a few websites that claim that magnesium malate(magnesium with malic acid) helps the body excrete aluminum. Malic acid also gives some people relief from muscle ache and more energy. It is worth trying.
Yes I read that too! I read it a while back! I also read about the Barium and Potassium! It worked for me well when I started using Molasses (organic) a few times a day, I felt better!


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Sean] #50634
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Yes, in fact I've been taking medium amounts of malic acid for a while now.

It's probably a staple in this age of chemtrails.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50654
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Russ, how is your chelation going? I am in the middle of a round now, using 100 MG ALA+ 50 mg DMSA. I feel like I am making great progress this round. My last round was at 75 mg ALA + 50 mg DMSA.

Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: JK98] #50660
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I'm doing pretty well, and so is Laura (she started too).

We both have improvements that indicate less mercury is circulating freely.

I will probably stick with 25mg for a few more weeks and then add in the ALA.

This would not be too early to start the ALA, would it?


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50663
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I think you can add ALA in the next round or two if you are having very few symptoms from the DMSA. ALA can be very helpful in addressing cognitive problems. ALA does seem to cause much more symptoms than DMSA, although the symptoms from ALA are much less if it is taken with DMSA(I originally started chelating with ALA only, but after around 5 rounds I couldn't handle the symptoms and stopped chelating until I got DMSA a few months later). Start out slow with the ALA and see how you react to it. While some might say to start with 6 mg, I think 12 and a half mg of ALA plus 25 mg of DMSA every 3 hours for 3 day rounds(2 nights) would be a good starting point. My symptoms while taking ALA do seem strange. My muscle ache and fatigue increase, however my mood and cognitive ability increases. My results might not be typical though, as I had 25 mercury fillings(almost all were at least 25 years old)and am probably much more mercury toxic than most here.

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JK, thanks for the input on ALA.

I'll give it a try. I think I may just do another couple weeks of DMSA first though. I'm curious how this will work out.

Amazingly, the DMSA seems to be eliminating the brain fog almost completely, except during heavy chemtrail events.



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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50691
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We have been having awful chemtrails, here. I watch daily for them.
I take pictures, everytime I get a chance. I am really into studying them, and photographing them. It amazes me how many there are. They are sneaky. Sometimes they do it early in the morning (like 6 am). Many days they do it in the afternoon, early evening.
Now, I am starting to see them at night.

We used to not have that many, out here in a small country town...but we are not too far from the city. The ones they do in Wichita, I can see out here, too, but they literally have been going right over the top of our house, and we are not on any kind of flight path, and there are no airports near here.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: mommy24] #50702
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Wow, I'm sorry to hear about the chemtrails.

You should consider posting some of your pic/videos here:

http://globalskywatch.com/

This could really help raise awareness about this subject.

I will also mention that they are spraying us horribly nearly every evening. It's worst between 2am and 6am (yes, I'm up all night working).

I have a large collection of photographs too and have even done a lot of timelapse now too (with a Canon camera, it's easy).

Thanks for the update.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50705
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Originally Posted by Russ
Wow, I'm sorry to hear about the chemtrails.

You should consider posting some of your pic/videos here:

http://globalskywatch.com/

This could really help raise awareness about this subject.

I will also mention that they are spraying us horribly nearly every evening. It's worst between 2am and 6am (yes, I'm up all night working).

I have a large collection of photographs too and have even done a lot of timelapse now too (with a Canon camera, it's easy).

Thanks for the update.
Yes these things or Mercury in my body already keeps me up late too, even if I have to get up around 10 or so I am still up pretty late. I know we talked about that before, it throws off your body clock and makes you a night owl, fact.


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Same here. I am trying so hard, to get on a normal schedule.

Unfortunately, my whole family is up late. My husband used to work second shift, and the kids and I were on his schedule, too. The little ones are not in school yet, but will be starting soon, and it makes things hard. Hubby got laid off, and we are still all screwed up. I have always been a night owl (mercury, I know), and I hate it, because if I'm up more in the day, and get more sunshine, I feel so much healthier. I get real depressed, being awake in the darkness all the time.

I am trying little by little, to go to bed earlier, and change things around. It's hard when I'm researching on the internet, though. Many nights it's between 4am and 7am when I finally get myself to bed. Uggg.


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Originally Posted by Russ
Wow, I'm sorry to hear about the chemtrails.

You should consider posting some of your pic/videos here:

http://globalskywatch.com/

This could really help raise awareness about this subject.

I will also mention that they are spraying us horribly nearly every evening. It's worst between 2am and 6am (yes, I'm up all night working).

I have a large collection of photographs too and have even done a lot of timelapse now too (with a Canon camera, it's easy).

Thanks for the update.


Awesome, Russ, I sure will. I am checking the pics on my camera right now.


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Originally Posted by mommy24
Same here. I am trying so hard, to get on a normal schedule.

Unfortunately, my whole family is up late. My husband used to work second shift, and the kids and I were on his schedule, too. The little ones are not in school yet, but will be starting soon, and it makes things hard. Hubby got laid off, and we are still all screwed up. I have always been a night owl (mercury, I know), and I hate it, because if I'm up more in the day, and get more sunshine, I feel so much healthier. I get real depressed, being awake in the darkness all the time.

I am trying little by little, to go to bed earlier, and change things around. It's hard when I'm researching on the internet, though. Many nights it's between 4am and 7am when I finally get myself to bed. Uggg.
I always felt great at night, I love the night! I don't like staying up that late, but I do love the night (Especially when the stars are out and Moon). I love getting up too around 11 or so and seeing alot of sunshine and If I stay up too late I can't do that, like a positive and negative at once for me.


I understand you on the loving the sushine and feeling better, if you wake up late everyday you become very depressed and feel dead, I hvae been there alot and lived that. Me and you and Russ seem to be the same, heck all of us are in here which is why we are here talking.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Sean] #50713
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Oh, I always felt great at night, most of my jobs I have worked nights, because that's when I was always at my best. The stars and moon are fabulous. I am a moon worshipper. lol

Yes, that's what I mean. That is how I am struggling, because I can stay up all night, working on the computer or cleaning house (because mostly, this is the time I "work" the best), then I get mad at myself for doing it. I know I will sleep late the next day, and I will still be stuck in the rut.

If I could get up from 9am-11am everyday, I would get plenty of daylight, and things would be fine. The hours I keep make it where I don't get up until 1pm-3pm, and then I kick myself, because I miss most of the day. It used to not bother me so badly, until I realized it really does affect my health so much.

In the winter, I have a very hard time....I get an awful winter depression, being stuck in the house. I also have had years of having a hard time regulating my body temperature. I used to get overly hot, and had a hard time tolerating hot weather. The last couple of years, it's all changed. I eat up the warm and even HOT weather, and freeze to death all winter. It's like my body has changed from having a high body temperature, to a low one. Crazy.

Yea, we seem a lot alike. We all have similarities, but some more than others. shakeheadyes

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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: mommy24] #50763
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I can completely relate to your previous post.

This was my life when my fillings were still in (pre-2000), and has, to some degree, become my life since we began getting hit with chemtrails in 2005.


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I personally had a different reaction to mercury. For some reason I cannot sleep in past 6 or 7 am, so I have to make sure to get to bed early, because even if I go to bed at 2 am I would still wake up at 6am and not be able to fall back asleep no matter what.

Thankfully now my sleep comes easier than it ever has in my entire life. I still wake up 1 or 2 times in the middle of the night but fall back asleep quickly. I also am able to take naps in the middle of the day, something I could never do my entire life. I suspect that in less than a year I will be able to sleep the entire night without waking if I continue chelation with ALA.

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That's awesome.

It just makes me wonder how many people have suffered with sleep issues and never discover that it's related to mercury.

I have a good friend (female) who's husband has tons of mercury symptoms including depression and sleep issues. I have told them about mercury and about my experience multiple times but they just seem to ignore everything I tell them.

It's so strange how people do that.

In 2000, just before my removal, I would wake up 5 times (yes, 5 times) each and every night with a full bladder.

After the removal, I only woke up after 7 hours of deep sleep and had a medium-full bladder; Dramatic difference.

My story for those who haven't seen it.

Cutler mentions the bladder thing is his book.

Now, with the chemtrail exposure over the past few years, I wake up 1 to 2 times per night with a full bladder, for the first time since the mercury removal (2000), and this only started happening after chemtrails began appearing.

I pay careful attention to my symptoms and body and it's amazing how chemtrail symptoms are nearly identical to my old mercury-amalgam symptoms.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: Russ] #50791
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Wow, Russ, it's amazing that you mention that. I have had bladder problems for many years (now that I think back, since the fillings were put in). I've always urinated like I've been drinking beer or something. Sometimes peeing 3 or more times, before I go to bed, my bladder got full so fast, I could feel it filling up when I was trying to go to sleep, and would always have to get up again. It would also wake me up several times in the night.

Now that you've mentioned this, it got me thinking...I am sleeping SO MUCH BETTER. Only going once or twice before bed, and waking up 1 time or so, if that. Sometimes you don't even realize the changes, until someone else says something that makes you stop and think!!!

I haven't really been free of symptoms long enough to know if chemtrails make a difference with me or not, but they definitely DO have something metallic in them, I have seen it falling from the sky. It sparkles in the sun.

Many days I do wake up around 7-8am, despite when I go to bed, and can't go back to sleep for an hour or so.... but I haven't had much sleep, so I am too tired to get up. I hate that.


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Re: Another One Hits the DMSA [Re: mommy24] #50827
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There are so many things that changed when I had my amalgam fillings removed. I was especially not expecting the emotional changes.

I was so depressed, thought of suicide almost all the time, and lived in constant fear. I was also so critical of myself and others. I thought this was normal.

All that changed. Everything about everything I felt all the time changed.

It's amazing not to live in fear or depression. It's amazing to feel strong and fearless.

Mercury is the weight on the shoulders of millions who don't have any idea how much better their lives could be.

Now, mercury is everybody's business. We got hit with chemtrails horribly from 9pm to midnight tonight and all of the same feelings returned, both physical and emotional. I could not wear my wet mask because my brother was over having me help him build a computer and I didn't want to wear it in front of him.

Now the spraying has lightened up, I took DMSA, and have my web mask on and all of the mercury symptoms are virtually gone.

In this life, we have been robbed of our health and lives of loved ones (mercury causes cancer, heart disease and other fatal diseases) by people who profit from our illness and think nothing of it.

They know what mercury does, they know why, and they have no plans on stopping.

"The American Dental Association (ADA) owes no legal duty of care to protect the public from allegedly dangerous products used by dentists. The ADA did not manufacture, design, supply or install the mercury-containing amalgams. The ADA does not control those who do. The ADA's only alleged involvement in the product was to provide information regarding its use. Dissemination of information relating to the practice of dentistry does not create a duty of care to protect the public from potential injury."

The Superior Court of the State of California
Case No. 718228, Demurrer (October 22, 1992)

The ADA made hundreds of millions licensing the manufacture of amalgam fillings (per Huggins) to dental companies. The ADA promoted and defended the use of mercury-amalgam for decades. The ADA believes they have no responsibility for the consequences.

People have a right to be furious about this. Lawsuits should be flying. Convictions should be pronounced. Without accountability, this kind of evil continues, and so it does.

Sorry for the rant reallymad


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Kicking It Up A Notch [Re: Russ] #51260
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OK, I've been doing DMSA 25mg for a few weeks now. It's going pretty well and I think I'm ready to move up to 50mg.

Should I be adding in ALA at this point, or just stick with DMSA and see how it goes?

If so, how much ALA would be best at this point?

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I think if I was in your shoes, I would try 12.5mg ALA/25mg DMSA every 3 hours. Find 50mg ALA capsules, and divide them in 4 whatever way you feel most comfortable. An easy way would be dissolve one capsule in a certain amount of water, add some vitamin c, and drink 1/4 of the solution every 3 hours. Don't put DMSA in water, its not as stable.

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Imo you should add the ALA now. You could go with with 12 and a half mg ALA+25 mg DMSA next round, just in case you get a strong reaction to ALA, although the strong reactions to ALA tend to occur much more often when ALA is used without DMSA. One thing that helps when chelating with ALA+ DMSA is to do two or three doses at the end of the round with just DMSA. This helps decrease the day after side effects. If you do okay with this, then you could go to 25 mg ALA+ 25 mg DMSA in a few rounds. Andy Cutler recommends using a ratio of ALA to DMSA of between 1 to 2 and 2 to 1. Then the next increase after that could be to 25 mg DMSA + 50 mg ALA.

So far I have been staying between the 1 to 2 and 2 to 1 ratios, and am now at 100 mg ALA + 50 mg DMSA. I am tempted to go to 3 to 1 since DMSA is so much more expensive than ALA(10 times the price!), although I am afraid I might get more side effects going higher than 2 to 1. Perhaps I might just stay at this dosage a few more rounds and see how it goes.

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Great. I'll give that a try.

Thanks for the info.


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Re: Kicking It Up A Notch [Re: Russ] #51462
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Russ, have you started on the ALA yet? If so, how is it going?

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No. Actually, the only ALA I have is 300mg; Way too much.

So, I'm going to try to find some in a smaller quantity so it's easier to divide into 12.5mg pieces.

I'm anxious to get started.

So far, under heavy chemtrail spraying, the following symptoms have declined dramatically using DMSA and malic acid:

Cracking joints
Joint pain
Shooting pains in muscles
Achy muscles
Fatigue
Brain Fog

There are still several symptoms that I do have during heavy spraying, but I'm hoping they'll decline in the future. Nevertheless, this is showing excellent progress for, what, about 5-6 weeks?

By the way, the spraying in this area tonight was one of the worst we've ever seen. I was physically unable to breath the air for more than a few seconds. Burning sinuses, burning throat, headache, horrible heartburn, profuse sweating fits, nausea, racing thoughts, etc.

It feels exactly like I did when I had amalgam fillings in. Exactly!

In all honestly, after paying close attention to the effects of chemtrails on my body since 2005, I believe it's very possible they contain methylmercury (Thimerosal).

It's the only explanation for the symptom-set they produce.

Mercury because of the perfectly-matching symptom-set. Methyl because of the speed of the neurological reactions; I smell/taste the chemtrails in the air, 10-to-30 seconds later, symptoms begin, even neurological symptoms:

Methylmercury.


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Re: Kicking It Up A Notch [Re: Russ] #51473
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Hey Russ ol buddy, if misery loves company, I'm with ya.
Man, I couldn't even spell fibromyalgia a few months ago....
It's taking too darn long for my liking in bringing these scumbags to justice.
Malic(e) acid ? Can we boil 'em in it?

Re: Kicking It Up A Notch [Re: Elvis] #51478
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Russ, there are a few brands which make 50 mg ALA. 25 mg is hard to find or expensive. Besides the magnesium malate, I believe creatine has also helped reduced my muscle pain.

Turmeric is also very helpful while using ALA. Turmeric increases bile production. ALA rids the body of mercury mostly through bile leving the digestive system. Increasing fiber intake may also help to have less bile reabsorbed and reused by the body.


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In all honestly, after paying close attention to the effects of chemtrails on my body since 2005, I believe it's very possible they contain methylmercury (Thimerosal).

It's the only explanation for the symptom-set they produce.


Well, Thimerosal is actually ethyl-mercury, not methyl-mercury...they do have different levels of toxicity.

I posted a response to your thread in the chemtrail forum, Link , but basically I experience most of the symptoms that you describe from chemtrails (burning/itchy eyes, irritated sinuses, tightness in chest, etc...) when I am exposed to many commonly used modern day chemicals (certain laundry detergents, cleaners, factory fresh plastics, etc...) , including nearly instant neurological symptoms including racing thoughts and anxiety. These symptoms do line up very closely to mercury symptoms, but really, its just how our compromised systems reacts to a variety of toxins. I have tried all of the recommended supplements for chemical sensitivity but nothing seemed to make a difference.

Its not the only explanation for the symptoms that are produced, by far. Have you ever searched for an independent lab that tests air for mercury? I'm pretty sure you have, what were your results?

Re: Kicking It Up A Notch [Re: gdawson6] #51484
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"when I am exposed to many commonly used modern day chemicals (certain laundry detergents, cleaners, factory fresh plastics, etc...) , including nearly instant neurological symptoms including racing thoughts and anxiety. These symptoms do line up very closely to mercury symptoms, "

Imo these reactions are due to acetylaldehyde and other aldehydes. They are present in most fragrances, cigarette smoke, and airplane exhaust. Acetylaldehyde is also produced by candida, and made by the body as the result of drinking alcoholic beverages. This is why molybdenum may help reduce symptoms. The article recommends 300 mcg a day of molybdenum, however between 500 mcg and one mg a day may be a more reasonable dosage.

http://candidapage.com/aldehyde.shtml





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I knew you would respond and I've heard this response time after time but I took 1mg of molybdenum for at least a few months and had no improvement whatsoever. Strangely, car exhaust and cigarette smoke (2nd hand of course) do not bother me much at all. I don't drink any alcohol either.

My symptoms actually more closely resemble someone with a fast phase one liver metabolism...but the supplements recommended for that did not help either (niacidamide, oregano oil, etc...). I am counting on continued ALA chelation to clear it up the true source of the problem.

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Well, Thimerosal is actually ethyl-mercury, not methyl-mercury...they do have different levels of toxicity.


Right, I had a brain lapse.

Nevertheless, when the spraying stops, my symptoms decrease/stop within an hour or so. I am also "blessed" with being able to smell and taste the spray, and my symptoms line up with spraying events exactly.


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when I am exposed to many commonly used modern day chemicals (certain laundry detergents, cleaners, factory fresh plastics, etc...) , including nearly instant neurological symptoms including racing thoughts and anxiety. These symptoms do line up very closely to mercury symptoms,


I'm very sorry to hear about that.

This is not how it works for me, however. Not even close.

Chemicals, detergents, oils, cleaners, plastics, fuel, kerosene, natural gas, ammonia, diesel exhaust, PVC glue, rosin, flux, ... None of this stuff bothers me at all. Not one bit.

My symptoms correlate one-to-one with spraying events, and since I can (both) watch them spray, AND can smell/taste the fallout that occurs 20-to-30 minutes after they spray, there is no doubt whatsoever that chemtrails are the source of my problem.

This pattern has persisted for 4 years and never failed since I began being exposed to chemtrail spraying in 2005.

And because MY symptoms of chemtrail spraying are identical to those that I had during MY mercury exposure from amalgam fillings, well, I think this speaks volumes.

The pharmaceutical companies have teamed-up/contracted and otherwise worked closely with national governments and military for years and bio-weapon development.

So, it clearly makes sense that the spraying campaign that we've been observing for the past 4 years is involved in doing the same thing that they've been doing with:

vaccines,
eye washes,
amalgam fillings,
etc., etc.

...for years, that is, exposing people to the perfect slow-poison for profits: Mercury.

When you have studied the way the good-ole-boy network works as we have for 20 years, and when you understand that this network is international (as predicted in Bible prophecy concerning this very time in history), a spraying campaign is no longer a surprise. In fact, our reaction was:

"Of course."

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I have tried all of the recommended supplements for chemical sensitivity but nothing seemed to make a difference.


I'm so sorry to hear this. It seems that stopping the exposure is the only alternative.

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Have you ever searched for an independent lab that tests air for mercury? I'm pretty sure you have, what were your results?


I have not found independent labs that test air for mercury without lots of money being involved. Plus, organic mercury detection (ethyl/methyl) is much harder than elemental.

I have spoken to the State of Maine in length (I've had several positive and lengthy conversations) and they do wet-deposition testing (a fancy term for rain-water collection) and recently began testing for mercury. I asked about seeing the results but he actually told me that they won't get the results from the water tests for 1 to 2 years. When I asked why it will take so long, he said that's just how long the lab takes. He doesn't know why.

Furthermore, I don't believe wet deposition tests will show results because I believe the metals (mercury, barium, aluminum, etc.) are in an oil/petroleum base which simply causes them to run off the top of wet-deposition collection containers.

We have a problem here that is difficult to detect (by design); A problem that most people cannot smell or taste. There are a few exceptions, and besides being one of them, I have met some of them online.

Even as I write this, the air tastes and smells horrible. It's like salty-metal mixed with a blunt chemical flavor.

When people discovered that fluoridated water is toxic (and sedating), even though they cannot smell or taste it, they rose up and got it removed from the water supplies of hundreds of cities.

We need to do the same with chemtrails. It is indeed a crime against humanity that makes the holocaust look like a video game.


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"My symptoms actually more closely resemble someone with a fast phase one liver metabolism."

Have you tried plenty of turmeric, milk thistle, and dandelion?
those are supposed to help with detoxification. When I feel the worst I drink a cup or two of Triple Leaf Detox Tea. That usually helps. Have you tried magnesium malate? Creatine? I think eating extra soluble fiber also helps, as it makes less of the bile get recycled, and more of it recycled. Much of the toxins in the liver are excreted through the bile.

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I never tolerated milk thistle well, it gives me terrible insomnia, but I used plenty of turmeric daily for probably 2-3 years. It Didn't fix the problem or even make it better. I really do believe continued ALA chelation will fix the problem. Magnesium Malate is helpful...as is Taurine.

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Originally Posted by JK98
"My symptoms actually more closely resemble someone with a fast phase one liver metabolism."

Have you tried plenty of turmeric, milk thistle, and dandelion?
those are supposed to help with detoxification. When I feel the worst I drink a cup or two of Triple Leaf Detox Tea. That usually helps. Have you tried magnesium malate? Creatine? I think eating extra soluble fiber also helps, as it makes less of the bile get recycled, and more of it recycled. Much of the toxins in the liver are excreted through the bile.
I like Dandelion alot, only a few days into it and see it will work some. Milk Thistle I need a better brand I guess, never got much out of it at all even on it for two years. Turmeric doesn't agree with me too much so I will pass on that one. Good post again JK, I like the fact you believe in herbs to heal.

Dandelion cleans the liver and kidneys correct? Kidneys are very important to detox.


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How about Red Clover, ginger, burdock and licorice root? Those are supposed to be quite helpful in detoxification.

Red clover looks promising for liver detoxification. I never took it alone though. It is in the Triple Leaf Detox tea.


Burdock is another ingredient in the detox tea that looks interesting.

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Originally Posted by JK98
How about Red Clover, ginger, burdock and licorice root? Those are supposed to be quite helpful in detoxification.

Red clover looks promising for liver detoxification. I never took it alone though. It is in the Triple Leaf Detox tea.


Burdock is another ingredient in the detox tea that looks interesting.
Ginger root, yes does well! Reishi Mushroom, does well! Read up on that for problems with Candida and liver JK. I love it. Gimger lets you absorb whatever else you take that much better.

Me and you can help out so many in here with our herbs and spices, if they just listen.


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I started ALA today: 12.5mg.

I'm having to split 25mg capsules because I can't find a brand that sells it in 12.5mg.



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Just an update.

The DMSA and ALA are not causing any ill effects in my at this point.

I hope this is good news.


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"The DMSA and ALA are not causing any ill effects in my at this point."

Do you plan to use just DMSA for the last few doses in the round? That helps prevent the symptoms that some people get
after the round ends. Are you ready to boost the ALA to 25 mg next round, or do you want to do a few rounds at 12 and half mg?

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Yes and yes.

I'm looking forward to the 25mg. The faster the mercury gets out the better!

The DMSA has already been a significant help.


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Just an update.

This previous week, I upped my DMSA to 50mg. I'm still doing 12.5mg of ALA.

All is well (so long as chemtrail spraying is not horrendous). I seem to be handling it quite well. I have seem some improvement in memory, lower fatigue, and overall noticeable reduction in most chemtrail symptoms.


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Sounds good. Some here have been stuck at very low dosages for a long time and are afraid to increase them. To make decent progress one needs to get the dosages up to reasonable levels.

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Yep. I'm glad to be having some success.

Of course, if they just stop spraying, all my symptoms go away. It's absolutely crazy what is happening here.

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Another Update...

I have upped my ALA to 25mg.

It seems to be going well. No real side effects now.


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Be careful when you raise the DMSA dosage next time. I am fine with DMSA at 62 mg per dose, but when I raised it to 83 mg per dose it upset my digestive system(diarrhea, cramps, etc.) and I decided to cut it back to 62 mg a dose for the next rounds. I don't know when I will try increasing the DMSA dosage again. Digestive system disturbance is a common side effect of DMSA.

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OK, Thanks for the warning.



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I've upped DMSA to 75mg now but I'm still only taking 25mg of ALA.

I'm still doing well when they are not chemtrailing. Unfortunately, today the spraying is horrible and the air is unbreathable. My sinuses are burning horribly and I have other symptoms that come and go with the chemtrails.

Laura also has burning sinuses and her muscles get tight, especially in the back of her neck.

I hope to God people wake up and get involved soon.


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