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i'm just gonna write my thoughts because i don't know where else to really. i don't even know what to say becuase i hate to [censored] and moan but this is such a horrible condition. i feel it's injustice even though there are worst things out there.

from day one of my life i've had severe toxicity, fatigue and mental illness. i'm trying to do this but it's not working. the perfectionism that goes with building the body so that i can detox this [shoot] outta me. if you cheat you are set back to square one. the thought that it could take years of perfectionism while your body craves everything that poisons it just seems impossible.

it makes me wanna give up and die. i just wanna be more functional. i wanna be working and having relationships. everyday it's movies, video games, exhaustion, depression and no life. I WANNA LIVE! but i don't know if i'm strong enough to follow some perfect horrible diet and program every single day for years while i'm depressed the rest of the time. this just seems too hard and my life is passing by.

Hi Shawn,

The point of changing ones diet to exclude sugar/gluten/yeast often starts only as a trial basis. It is not about years of perfection! Either it'll work or it won't and you'll probably know within weeks (months at the most).

A sugar/gluten/yeast free diet does not have to exclude so many foods as to make you miserable. There are are plenty of healthy options. However, it is up to you ultimately. This can determine whether such foods containing sugar/gluten/yeast are in fact making you ill or adding to illness, or they are not.

Such a diet does not have to = removing everything else too. You can find plenty of other foods to consume and probably many more than I can!

One "should" notice a difference within weeks/months. If it makes a significant or even partial difference, it can be the difference between being miserable and being much happier.
If the diet works well enough after sticking to it for weeks, then it is well worth the effort and initial difficulty. If you find after a few weeks/months that nothing is really happening? Then sure, it may not be enough to give significant improvement for you.

You talk about years, but have you tried for even a few weeks to stick to it? Intially it is difficult yes and sometimes very much so, but if it works, it's worth every bit of it. Trust me, I went through weeks of misery of cravings and detox before things improved. I was determined enough to go through with it because the alternative was much worse. Improved health as the outcome was the reward.

It's up to you of course. If you find other means of improving your health, all power to you. There are many avenues that often need addressing too, but diet is a good place to start and a foundation that the body can build on.

Again, it's not about years. It's usually about weeks before change is often noted.

Yeah but all diets don't have to be just the same one or some might do better with such and such added Bex. When you say sugar free am I thinking you don't eat any fruits? Some of them are needed IMO, Apples and Bananas are VERY good for your health and you can't dispute that. Do you eat any of those? You always say the diet and such and suck free, I did really well on a lower sugar diet but still ate the FRUITS I mentioned and was all the healthier for it, infact I never felt better!

I agree there are MANY avenues like you said and OF COURE Diet is a huge start on the road to recovery and can even eliminate tons of the symptoms you are having alone. People can't just eat horrible and take such and such and think the problem will just go away, that will not happen.

Try adding somethings in slowly little by little, add something good one week and then something good for another, you may ease into it alot better and get less of the depression and bad feeling you get when you just start and yank the plug all of the sudden. I have tried to start things just off the bat, I suffered and felt horrible for days and then went back to eating bad again.

Sean, I did not mean that Shawn MUST go on a diet identical to mine. Sorry if I gave that impression. My post has already suggested that there are many healthy alternatives are available to the person who has simply excluded sugar/gluten/yeast.

I mean sugar as in STRAIGHT "sugar" (sucrose). Not the natural fructose sugars contained in fruits (unless somebody HAS to do this). I realise some people maybe more extreme like me and have to give up ALL forms of sugar, (including natural sugars and high carbs). But it does not have to be this way for everybody. And I have already messaged with Sean about that and suggested that he simply give up the obvious like sugar/gluten/yeast. And see if that alone makes a difference.

In other words, one who does try such a diet, could still probably include high carbs like fruits, potatoes, carob, non gluten cereal/grains, some milk, chips etc. If Sean can still do that? That would be great and healthy also. And I used to be able to handle such a diet. Made excellent progress too.

I think if somebody can do this alone? That in itself make allow for significant improvement after a few weeks or so of following that. Now if somebody is like me? Then they can decide whether it is enough or not.

It's great to hear you do so well on fruit. And why not? It is a natural part of our diets afterall and very healthy and a potent toxin fighter. It's only an issue if yeast is such a serious problem, that the person cannot make progress or enough progress unless they remove ALL forms of sugar. I find that extreme and frankly am not so keen on recommending this anymore, unless it's absolutely necessary.

I consider that fruit, nuts/seeds, yoghurt, vegetables of all kinds, meats, grains (non gluten), etc would be pretty ideal. and there are natural treats one can include also, as long as they are sugar/gluten/yeast free. I really do not think it's that much of a major sacrifice to exclude the obvious as a trial for a few weeks. It may feel it at first, but really it's not.

Bex you are great, period... You always take things in stride and explain it fully! Good post, peace.


BTW TRUST ME it can be hell to just change like that, I mean feeling very nervous like a person quitting cigarettes or whatever just off the top, thats the way I felt when I tried to just change up one day. I felt hungry all the damn time and had a headache and felt nuts lol. Have you ever felt like that? It's TOUGH.


BTW seriously if he wants to add things in slowly or do it he way you did it is up to him, but he will feel better and be on the road nonetheless! Have you not tried some antiviral things I mentioned to you Bex? Have you not tried the POOPING (LOL) way Sitting Duck posted up before? I tried the thing he put up and feel better after a few days, less toxic and seriously go to the bathroom ALOT less, thats been a sent to me lately. Keep an open mind Bex.

People always want a magic bullet type of thing to heal them in one way without doing much else, which is truly not the case in any case and you need to change up several things. I agree with you 100% there, it's not just one avenue but many you need to use. Go use ALA if you have to, but if you still eat bad and do things you will not heal, there is more than just mercury or Candida which we need to know about. There is thoughts, Food we eat, Metals we do or not consume and Spiritual guidance, Spirit mind body and SOUL! ALL OF THEM! Believe that.

I got my big Mercury tooth out and improves, took certain things and improved! I used Threelac and temporarily felt alot better and got Candida way down, passed the SPIT Test and all! I continued to drink beer and eat bad, guess what? Felt the symptoms over again after that and even worse! I seriously think some in here need the complete approach, not just one. Diet being the first and foremost, yes.

Start out with a few things, Blackstrap which is loaded with Minerals, Good water, Some Kelp or DULSE (CLEAN of course), Spirulina if you want to avoid Chlorella, Alfala maybe, Apples, Bananas for more potassium, Goji Berries (Full of Antioxidants), Garlic if you can handle it, Olive Leaf Extract (A really good kind) or whatever, just start on a few of these and truly take them daily and then go from there. Thats what I am trying right now, starting slowly on a life long journey, I hope I make it.

i hear ya.

Bananas and apples(especially bananas) are loaded with sugar. I suggest avoiding them if you have a candida problem. Apples and bananas are also relatively low in vitamins and minerals when compared to some other fruits. It may be a good idea to avoid all fruit, and eat extra vegetables instead. You don't need bananas for potassium. All vegetables and fruits, as well as milk and yogurt are loaded with potassium. If you want to eat fruit, you could eat strawberries or cantaloupe, which are much lower in sugar than bananas or apples.

Cantaloupe is great, good idea there. Goji Berries are great too, very healthful and loaded with antioxidants (I eat them daily). Apples are very good for you JK, high in sugar or not they have plenty of benefits and I felt great eating on everyday for a few years.

You are saying avoid all fruit if he has Candida, well okay go on the diet but that does nothing long term to correct it and if you go off the diet even a year later it comes back ten fold I read, right back where it was or worse!

He needs to get to the underlying problem of the Candida and attack that, the diet will help the symptoms but it is not a cure for anything like Candida or Mercury as we all know in here from experience. I suggest he add things in instead of just jumping ship right away, that seems to set most up for failure and they relapse.

Of course staying off sugar won't cure the mercury problem. A few times I tried eating fruit again. Each time I didn't feel worse immediately, but after a week or two the candida seemed worse and I gave up the fruit again.


"Apples are very good for you JK,"

Apples have pectin and malic acid which might help some. Apples also vary greatly in their sugar content. If you do decide to eat apples, try to find the tartest ones and avoid the sweetest ones.

Thanks for the tip JK! I will try to find some apples that are less sweet.

Shawn, I don't know where you get the idea that if you 'cheat' on your diet that you are back to square one. You might feel off and you might take some time to recover but it won't take away any progress your body has made.

I'm 23 and I've been poisoned since I was little so I kinda know where your coming from, but we at least know what is making us sick and thats more than some people have. There is no easy way out of this though. Research and read and decide what way you are going to fight back against this illness, things like chelation and using saunas.

I'm making good progress using the cutler protocol and can work more than I have in the past 3 years. I'm starting to feel different than I ever have in my life...its exciting, like a new beginning is coming.

I mean from Candida, I have heard countless people online say that when they cheat or have a bad weekend it is right there again and back in full force, so did it EVER go away? No. Diet is huge like you are saying, no doubt it is BIG part of what you are trying to do and the foundation.

I believe spite diet you need to jack the immune system up though with thingsd and get enzymes or Probiotics to get that Candida, I have read it has been cured and it can be done! We don't have to live with that crap forever, thats all I am saying. People on the diet have the Candida still, it just suppresses the symptoms while on it.

Of course you will not lose all progress of being healthy from cheating! I meant Candida wise, not health wise.

I am glad to see you are doing better and making progress! That makes me smile! There is no easy way out like you said by any means, it's a effort from several ends, period.

I was referring to the original post by Shawn just so you know, where Candida wasn't mentioned directly.

If that is the case, where it feels like you are back to square one, its obvious that the diet is only controlling the symptoms and not actually healing whatever is causing the bodies imbalance. I personally feel much better (like night and day) avoiding fruit so that is what I do for now. But I know that by avoiding fruit I am only controlling the symptoms and only do it because I feel better while doing it...I'm counting on chelation to get to the actual source of the problem.

Yes true, but I got my Candida when a kid and got my OCD from it when I was a kid! I took antibiotics and steroids from the inhaler and that got me worse than the tooth IMO! I had a tooth or two, one fell out and I got white and the other got removed! I still felt alot of this when I was younger, especially when I smoked Cigs in high school, I felt horrible and dazes and wondered why others did not, well the Candida was a main reason! If you did several rounds of antibiotics I can see as well it would come to you like it did me! I am not doubting Mercury did me in later, but first was Candida IMO, period.

I will try to work on that first and get rid of it, if that works well then Mercury is not a serious problem for me, I got rid of Candida and felt near 85% in 04, it came back and I am where I am now from it

BTW what the hell are these spots in front of my eyes I got since I was a kid? Are they from Mercury or Candida? I have read some of the floaters as they call them, but I never got to the root of that nor fixed it! I see it now on my white computer screen or when I look at the sky, just spots in front of my eyes. Has anyone had this as well?

thanks for all the suggestions. the biggest thing for me is i need a change to keep fighting. i think the diet wasn't feeding the candida so bad but i never could follow it strict enough and long enough to die off some candida.

this is mainly a mercury forum but my primary problem is copper poisoning which if you read, can be just as torturous with all the same symptoms. i know i have some mercury too but i don't think it's the major problem. i'm sure i got some from vaccines.

i need to get back to eating right because lately i've just said screw it and ate what i've wanted, done what i wanted, drank beer with friends, and have run from the problem. i've felt really bad about myself because of it and losing self esteem becuase i need to get mentally tougher to beat this. it's wicked tough for me to follow this program.

does anyone know about using large doses of vitamin C? with copper, the main chelator i believe is vitamin c. i've read where it can be really powerful if used right and maybe it could help. when i was taking my basic supp regime of vitamin A, B complex, C, E, niacin, cal/mag, cod liver oil, i didn't feel a difference. i was taking like 2-3 grams of vitamin c.


gdawson,

what kind of changes are you feeling with yourself? i'm glad things are changing for the better with you. i'd love to be there myself and i gotta step my game up to get there.

Sean, some believe Candida is a result of a hormone imbalance, usually caused by mercury buildup in the endocrine system (including certain glands in the brain). Once certain hormones are off the body loses its naturally ability to control yeast from overgrowing. This would certainly explain why it seems so hard for so many to actually cure candida as opposed to just controlling it. I mean 6 years ago I could eat absolutely anything without ever having a problem with a yeast.

Shawn, If copper is your main problem, then vitamin C, zinc, and molybdenum should help. Eating healthy fats (olive oil, butter, coconut oil) will help as well as they increase production of bile and excess copper is excreted in the bile. Things like turmeric and milk thistle also help with bile and should be considered as well. Copper poisoning is pretty much identical to mercury poisoning in the symptoms, so you could have mainly copper, or both mercury and copper. Some people (poor mercury detoxifiers) can be mercury poisoned without ever having a filling, just from vaccines and tuna.

I'm feeling stronger and much more tolerant to excercise, and I have more energy than I've had in quite a while. My sleep patterns are becoming more normal, with less waking up to pee. I'm also feeling like I want to start dating again but I think that one will have to wait a little while longer...Overall I think I'll be pretty close to recovered by next year.

what have you done to get to this point and what has helped you the most you think?

Well heres a quick rundown. I started eating very healthy ~4.5 years ago (still was able to eat healthy carbs like whole grains and fruit). I got 10 mercury fillings replaced about 3 years ago. I tried natural detox methods (sauna, kelp, selenium, etc...) for about 2 years, and some mental symptoms improved but some physical symptoms also got worse...and my digestion slowly declined to where I couldn't handle any carbs anymore. I finally decided to try the cutler protocol in the fall of 2008 which I resisted before because I didn't want to wake up in the middle of the night. The cutler protocol seemed to be helping, using ALA, then ALA+DMSA. The progress is slow but the results are lasting...no going back to square one. I can tolerate exercise without feeling bipolar and depressed the next few days. Still not fixed digestive wise but many other symptoms are gradually improving and staying that way. I did realize I had a very small hidden piece of mercury Amalgam in February, but I'm not sure the difference that made as it was very tiny but it was removed.

If mercury isn't your problem then the cutler protocol wouldn't help much. Have you ever gotten a hair test? I learned I had high levels of Lead, cadmium, and uranium from a hair test...as well as my issues with mercury (which didn't show up in the hair test which is very common, 90% of mercury poisoned people won't show much mercury on a hair test)

I really think the most important things for getting better is hope, willpower, and a strong desire to be healthy. For mercury poisoned people I think ALA chelation is very important for getting stored mercury out of the organs and the brain. If you give into feelings of hopelessness and despair the poisons (mercury, copper, etc...) are winning...try your best to be optimistic even in dark times.

Excess copper? One of the symptoms of copper deficiency is yeast overgrowth. Fatigue is another. Many who think they have excess copper may in fact be copper deficient.

http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/candida/