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Will You Take the Mark?

This 2000-year old prophecy is clearly speaking about modern-day biometrics.


"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

(Revelation 13:16-18)


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Re: Will You Take the Mark? [Re: Russ] #63190
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Mark Of The Beast DVD

It's one of the clearest prophecies of the Bible.

http://www.christiancinema.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2677

Re: Will You Take the Mark? The Mark Of Death in Leviticus [Re: Lynnmn] #63744
08/12/11 05:06 PM
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TATTOO: THE MARK OF DEATH

It is indeed interesting that in Leviticus 19:28 it links the tattoo with the dead.
And all these prophecies in these Ancient Scriptures that are being revealed with more meaning in these days of events.

Signs of the times??

And now we have these electronic tattoos the tattoo has truly evolved THE MARK OF DEATH the MARK OF THE BEAST?
Connection....
But the warning against any cuttings in your flesh or print marks upon you sounds very futuristic too such as the prophecies are and then..
there are Microchip Implant's and such to contend with these days like never ever before.

http://www.av1611.org/tattoos/death.html

So where are we in the history of time anyway???

Re: Will You Take the Mark? The Mark Of Death in Leviticus [Re: Lynnmn] #63750
08/13/11 05:11 AM
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My understanding differs a bit. Wouldn't the marks for the dead be made out of respect/reverence? For example one might consider making a mark to serve as a permanent reminder of a dead grandfather or mother. But although we are to honour our father & mother, we are not to deface (vandalize) our bodies (God's art, God's property) with such marks. How much less then could one consider some silly slogan!

Until very recently the custom with tattoos was often that they included the name of a loved one. Nowadays any trivial thing serves as an excuse (when even the best excuse one might imagine is contrary to scripture.)

That's my understanding, for what it's worth.


Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth

"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case
http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm

"To Compel A Man To Furnish Funds For The Propagation Of Ideas He Disbelieves And Abhors Is Sinful And Tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Will You Take the Mark? When The Horsemen Ride [Re: CTD] #63757
08/15/11 01:40 PM
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-When The Horsemen Ride
By: Henry Morris, Ph.D.

“If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?” (Jeremiah 12:5).

It is relatively easy in a land of religious freedom such as ours to live and witness for the Lord, but the time may well come when that freedom will be lost, and one can only serve the Lord openly at great risk. There are many countries in the world today where it is physically dangerous to take a strong Christian stand, and it is not unlikely that such a condition will prevail here too one of these days.

If such a time should come to America, how would Christians behave? Would they be careless and sleeping, as so many were on Pearl Harbor Day 50 years ago? The frightening aspect of today’s Christian community is that, with so few willing to stand for God’s truth against mere intellectual attacks, what will they do when real persecution comes? When Christians compromise so readily with the pressures of modern evolutionary humanism, will they one day actually surrender to the enemy when godless atheism reigns?

How many would choose to receive “the mark of the beast” rather than the martyr’s “crown of life” (Revelation 13:17; 2:10), if such a choice should be faced? cross

America’s leaders today, time after time, have been caught off guard by terrorist actions, just as they were at Pearl Harbor. Time after time, nothing is done for fear of offending public opinion and America’s enemies. Similarly, America’s Christian leaders are intimidated into one unscriptural compromise after another whenever liberals and humanists launch public attacks on Biblical positions.

When the horsemen ride and the floods overflow, how will we do?
ICR/HMM



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Re: Will You Take the Mark? When The Horsemen Ride [Re: Abigail] #63771
08/16/11 05:14 PM
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Hi CTD, (((( Smiles ))))

You are right, it could have been done out of respect/reverence or even it could have been a pagan ritual of sorts which could also go much further than that in just the defacing of our bodies and the warning does go like you said..
And you shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead; and you shall not put on yourself any writing or mark; I am Jehovah.
But also as there are Scriptures surrounding that that do talk about conjuring spirits and seeking to spiritists and being defiled by them... they could also have been defiling themselves by a pagan ritual of spiritualism akin to a kind of satanic ritual of pagan origin.
I think what that site was trying to say is there are parallels and links of meaning all throughout the Bible and God has His mark and Satan has his as well.
The mark of Cain was a mark put on him by God and as Satan always tries to imitate what God does the warning of certain marks not from God could have been a part of that warning as well.
The Mark of Cain the Mark of the Dead and then the Mark of the Beast to come, as links and parallels in Scripture.
I think that webpage was pointing out in that type of meaning of it.
But still God does not want us to take a mark unless from Him.
I have this DVD set of Jesus throughout the Bible and there does seem to be lots of parallel themes in the Scriptures.
I know you've seen that too as you are well versed in the Bible and on the Evolution thing.
The link to that webpage was just food for thought but yes..
You are right too.. ((((( Smiles )))))

Re: Will You Take the Mark? When The Horsemen Ride [Re: Lynnmn] #63792
08/19/11 04:02 AM
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Okay, I see what you're saying. I was a little confused on it, but either way we know better than to take the world's marks.


Dark Matter + Dark Energy = Dark Truth

"We find that such evidence demonstrates that the ID argument is dependent upon setting a scientifically unreasonable burden of proof for the theory of evolution." - Judge Jones Kitzmiller case
http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Falsify.cfm

"To Compel A Man To Furnish Funds For The Propagation Of Ideas He Disbelieves And Abhors Is Sinful And Tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson

"And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?" - Thomas Jefferson
Re: Will You Take the Mark? When The Horsemen Ride [Re: CTD] #63831
08/24/11 02:19 PM
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Hi CTD, (((( Smiles ))))

Sometimes I may be alittle hard to understand not clear sorry about that as..
I'm just studying and reading so much out there it can get confusing at times. I try to deciper it myself.
We live in highly confusing times that's for sure and the Bible does says that each person on the face of the earth will recieve a mark, either on their right hand or forhead which has lead to much speculation on the subject.
The chip or tattoo chip may be a part of it as we look at what's happening in the world of today.
But what's new today may be improved tomorrow.
As technology is moving at such a rapid speed that new technology replaces the old one we just don't know whats coming next.
But we know it's coming God said so.
Alot of people have read about these prophecies and might refuse the chip though the younger generation may be more open to it then the older.
But as like with evolution and the vaccines that are more and more being forced on people these days hurdles will have to be overcome...
and it does have to do with commerce the buying and selling in the end times as well.
And it seems like now is the first time in history where money is being replaced with credit cards and debit cards more controlled and the next replacement is yet to come it seems.
But it also has to do with Allegiance and worship too so what else could the mark contain? Or go with it?
Then in my search there was something interesting as well.

Re: Will You Take the Mark? When The Horsemen Ride [Re: Lynnmn] #63834
08/24/11 03:36 PM
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Hi CTD (((( Smiles )))

In expanding on what I posted above on the mark besides the buying and the selling aspect of the system it seems to go beyond that...
well more then seems too and includes Allegiance and Worship.
So as the Scriptures were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek and the Bible has been translated from that language..
though also yet through the Latin and German route too.
So some things may not be translated in it's fullness or right even in the beloved King James which is still a good translation better then some of the others out there.
But this is the day and age that through the Messianc Jews and the orginal or literal translation we may find our roots and understand the scriptures even more better.
As in Zechariah 8:23 to take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew and will seek his favor as we have heard that God is with you as thats where we find our salvation, Yeshua".
I think that more and more now we will find our roots.
And get closer and closer to that as now is the time.
So it's interesting to note that in Acts 20:7 there is an italicized word you will see it in the King James.
The orginal text reads, On motza el-shabbat, when the disciples came together to break bread.
So I looked into my King James and it says (Day) but in the Literal Translation side it says on the first of the Sabbaths.
On motza el-shabbat, when the disciples came together to break bread.. Upon the first (day) of the week ...
The actually meaning is " at the end of the Sabbath in the Jewish Bible.
Then there is the word "Zakar" the Hebrew word for "mark" used in the commandment to remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
Then Russ on this board posted something that was in the news about trying to make a law making Sunday worship the holy day law.
My eyes just widened because there are those that believe that when they make Sunday the Sabbath law that... that will be the Mark of the Beast.
Changing God's law's.
Then going on to find out through the Messianic Jewish Bible this change in there and that the word mark "Zakar" is associated with a commandment in Hebrew.
So the mark could go even futher then just one thing it could be a part of it all.
So if in the future the big switch as some call it comes as a law, then we will understand that they have a good point there.
Because it is in the Hebrew and in the Scriptures there are parallels and links of meaning and then here it comes.
And with any law persecution is not far behind remember Martin Luther but this is far worse.
Yet the first to be persecuted will be the observant Jews.
The Scriptures are very interesting indeed.

Re: Will You Take the Mark? When The Horsemen Ride [Re: Lynnmn] #64168
09/22/11 08:22 PM
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Planning to chip us all by 2017?

This is a reality of the world we live in today.
Not 2,000 years ago or 20 years ago.

Cashless Society with Implanted Microchip by 2017

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybKSwuIHvL8

World Population to Have Mark of the Beast by 2017

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L_izk5yad0&NR=1

The Bible "Ancient Scriptures" from God was before it's time because it foresaw the future.
It's The True Word Of God!

That's only one part of it because worship is the other part.
Buying and Selling and Worship.

Re: Will You Take the Mark? When The Horsemen Ride [Re: Lynnmn] #64221
09/27/11 06:23 PM
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Fanancial Wipe Outs.
This country has seen some rather big hits.
But heard the worse one to come will be in a Shmita year that will be in 2015.
Then...
Cashless Society with Implanted Microchip by 2017.
Hmmmmm...
What is a Shmita?

http://www.betemunah.org/shmita.html

Re: Will You Take the Mark? When The Horsemen Ride [Re: Lynnmn] #64583
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Yes where is it coming from?

We can see it coming as even though we know the facts of what's in the vaccines now and what they have admitted too in injecting mercury into our children and it could have been many times over and over and over again..
That when the blame is steered toward the environment and the vaccines are cleared and deemed safe.
They can continue on injecting your children with any substances they want to ..

a mixture of mercury, aluminum, ammonium sulfate, formaldehyde, latex rubber, MSG, beta- propiolactone, genetically modified yeast, animal, bacterial & viral DNA, micro-organisms, polysorbate 80, tri(n)butylphosphate, human and animal cells, glutaraldehyde, gelatin, phenol/phenoxyethanol, neomycin sulfate, gentamicin sulfate & polandymyxin B mixed and..

Whatever else they may put in there maybe even a computer chip a tiny RFID chip for tracking you.
Technology is moving faster and faster and getting smaller everyday.
How does anybody know that a government that can let children be inject with mercury and other neurotoxins would have anymore virture of character when it comes to slipping in a chip on you.
And how much do you really trust them not to do that anyway?
Trusted them with your vaccines and did they let you down?
It's not homoeopathy folks!
How do you know your not chipped already unknown to you?
Or not next year?
How do you really know Folks!
But the chip is not worship within itself so it's the beginning of things to come.
Chemtrails, Vaccines and Chips and Global Government tracking you.
A one world system is what Bible Prophecy said will come!
At one time people who talked about a coming One World Government was considered laughable maybe too immersed in Bible Prophecy and dismissed.
Now even the secular world talks about the One World Government " New World Order" to come as the world is full of believers now.
But believers in what?
Do you consider what the rest of the Bible has to say now?

Re: Will You Take the Mark? When The Horsemen Ride & A Griveous sore! [Re: Lynnmn] #64631
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Famines, Pestilence, Economic and Environmental Chaos will abound in the latter days..

Read more: http://www.prophecydude.org/signs/economic-chaos-/

The Global Depopulation Agenda Video on this board..
More people are believing it now as something is going on.

The Signs of the Times are here!
And all this dispare will lead to what Bible Prophecy says will come next.
Next doctors will be used to administer the chips tatoo etc..
which will become an ulcer a griveous sore which will be harmful and injurious expecially if one reads what the Bible says on taking this mark.

Injurious maybe because of radiation constant waves of monitoring etc....

CHIPPED PETS DEVELOP FAST-GROWING, LETHAL TUMORS
http://www.antichips.com/press-releases/chipped-pets.html

LAWSUIT AGAINST MERCK AND HOMEAGAIN OVER PET CHIP CANCER

http://www.newswithviews.com/Albrecht/katherine100.htm

And boils have appeared at the site of the implant and thats what the Bible says will happen.
Thoose who comply will get some kind of griveous sore!

Revelation 16:2

http://www.av1611.org/666/whatis.html

It's not safe. Even if they update it or change it in some way and say now it's safe. The Bible says it's not safe!
Are the vaccines safe?

Injecting all those additives in to you is not safe either.
Plus they say now vaccines don't last long and this is nothing new and people who have been vaccinated are having outbreaks anyway and more and more this is coming out and it's most likely been that way all this time and we probably don't hear it all.
People are starting to wonder what is going on?
What are they doing this to us? And why?

http://www.endtime.com/

Watch also what is happening in the Middle East!
For signs of the times

Re: Will You Take the Mark? /What is the MARK of the BEAST? [Re: Lynnmn] #64635
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-What is the MARK
of the BEAST?
(lengthy, read at your convenience)

Millions are deeply concerned. Millions have heard about the dreaded "Mark of the Beast," and its number, 666. There are many theories. Some allege that the number 666 is on the papal crown. Some allege the number will be put inside your skin, inserted by means of a microchip on your forehead. Many believe it has something to do with a new form of money, or the coming "cashless society," wherein debit and credit cards (which some allege will contain the number 666) will replace cash.

The Bible contains stern warnings about those who receive the mysterious Mark of the Beast. It was the apostle John who received the visions from Christ about the Mark of the Beast. He wrote,

star"Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, 'Go and pour out the bowls of the wrath of God on the earth.' . . . and a foul and loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image." (Revelation 16:1- 2, NKJV).
Notice it is not only those who receive the MARK of the Beast, but also those who "worship his image" who will come under God's wrath.

What IS the "image of the Beast"? How can you recognize it? What IS the Mark of the Beast? How can you insure you do not receive it, that you do not come under God's wrath?

It is time you swept away all this Babylon of confusion, and looked directly into the Word of God to see what really IS the mysterious Mark of the Beast, and what it is NOT!

Who, What, is the BEAST?
Obviously, before one can understand what is the Mark of the Beast, one must understand who or what is the beast!

Bible scholars are virtually one hundred percent agreed that the symbolism of the great image seen by Nebuchadnezzar (Daniel 2) represents the four world-ruling empires from the time of ancient Babylon to Persia, Greco/Macedonia, and finally Rome.


Most biblical commentaries expound this view; even a well-known layman's Bible handbook, Halley's, reconfirms it (see Halley's Bible Handbook, p. 342). The head of gold represented ancient Babylon. The breast and arms of silver represented Persia, and the belly and thighs of brass represented Alexander's Greco/Macedonian kingdom. The legs of iron and feet and toes "part of iron and part of miry clay" represented the Roman Empire throughout it's duration, including a yet future, end-time ten nation combine which will coalesce in the same region, and which will fight Christ at His coming (Revelation 17:12-14).

Notice especially verse 44:

"And in the days of these kings [the kings represented by the ten toes] shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever" (Daniel 2:44).
In the vision, Nebuchadnezzar saw a stone seemingly dislodged miraculously, without the intervention of workman's tools, or human hands. Like a plunging meteorite, it seemed to hurtle down from heaven and smash the towering image of gold, silver, brass, iron and miry clay on the feet! In the dream, the entire image toppled to the ground, and seemed to become

"like the chaff of the summer threshing floor; and the wind carried them away..." (Daniel 2:35).
Then, the stone which had smote the image on the ten toes, (representing the end-time ten governments which are to arise within the confines of the ancient Roman Empire) seemed to become a great mountain which filled the whole earth!

Thus, in this one brief chapter, we see a prophecy which predicts the entire span of human history from Nebuchadnezzar until the Second Coming of Christ!

The Bible uses the expression "beast" advisedly, since the Gentile leaders of the world-ruling governments were possessed of minds like wild, predatory animals . Nebudchadnezzar's seven years of insanity (Daniel 4) is symbolic of the insane bestiality of such human leaders as those of the four successive world-ruling kingdoms, and, in our time, such men as Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and others.

It is very clear that the first beast of Revelation 13 is the same kingdom as the fourth beast of Daniel 7. Notice it:

"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority" (Revelation 13:1, 2).
The beast is a symbol of a great super government. That the beast rose up out of the sea indicates it derived its power from masses of people. The seven heads are seven revivals or stages of this beast power, and the ten horns are symbols of individual governments, each presided over by a king, or absolute ruler, symbolized by the "crowns." That the label on each of these seven successive governments was the "name of blasphemy" indicates its amalgamation with a spiritual power, which is called, in Revelation 17, "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

That the beast was "like unto a leopard," meaning that the main part of its body appeared to be like a leopard, is symbolic of the empire of Alexander the Great, as proved by the historical fulfillment of both the second and the seventh chapters of Daniel, which detail the four successive world-ruling empires of history. The feet, "as of a bear," indicate the ancient Persian Empire under Cyrus.

The mouth, "as the mouth of a lion," indicates the ancient Roman Empire. The "dragon" is obvious reference to Satan the devil. Notice:

"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world . . ." (Revelation 12:9).
Therefore, this end-time BEAST POWER is the final, end-time resurrection of the same old system which was to reemerge many times down through history, until its final emergence just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation, the Day of the Lord, and the Second Coming of Christ.

starNotice it is Satan who gives power unto the Beast (Revelation 13:4). The Beast sometimes refers to the human leader; the super-dictator who will rule over ten kings:

"And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone" (Revelation 19:19, 20).

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Thank you, Lynn, for this most important topic. Readers, please continue studying up on this endtime event.




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Re: Will You Take the Mark? /Can You Refuse the Mark of the Beast? [Re: Abigail] #64642
10/27/11 07:30 PM
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Can you REFUSE the Mark of the Beast?
(lengthy, read at your convenience) ~
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In vision, John was projected forward in time, forward into our century and beyond - into the time of the Great Tribulation, the Heavenly Signs, and the Day of the Lord.

In the fifteenth and sixteenth chapters of Revelation, John records his visions of the salvation of the saints of God, and the outpouring of God's wrath on sinning mankind during the seven last plagues.

Notice the description of the saints:

"And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image , and over his mark , and over the number of his name , stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints . . ." (Revelation 15:2-4). bible

Who are these? Why, they are the resurrected saints! They are the "firstfruits" of the earth, the last living generation of Christians, together with all those who had died previously, but who are resurrected at Christ's coming! (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18). They represent ALL TRUE, GOD-FEARING, BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIANS. This vision is not portraying just a small PART of the saints of God, but is showing ALL the saints!

And what is their description? They are those who have gotten the victory over the BEAST, and over his IMAGE, and over his MARK, and over the NUMBER OF HIS NAME!

If you do not know who, or what this beast really IS; if you are ignorant of what is his IMAGE; if you do not know what is his MARK, then HOW CAN YOU GET THE VICTORY OVER IT?

How many Christians do you know who are truly AWARE in a daily, workaday sense, of just WHAT IS THE BEAST, who or what is his image, what is his mark, or the number of his name?

As shocking as it may seem, there are MILLIONS of professing, church-going "Christians," who believe they have salvation, but who are actually PART OF THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST; who joyously receive his MARK as part of their very life's fabric, but who are completely deceived; who do not KNOW they are locked into a Babylonish MYSTERY religion!

How was the Image of the Beast formed?
The BEAST of prophecy will soon loom up in Europe!

Notice that the world WORSHIPS this supranational, powerful economic, political, military union:

" . . .and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshiped the dragon [SATAN! Revelation 12:9] which gave power unto the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?" (Revelation 13:3, 4).

The beast John saw was a counterfeit Christ-like creation. It APPEARED like Christ! Yet, it spoke like SATAN! Let's continue:

"And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast [Rome! And the successive revivals of the so-called "Holy Roman Empire" down through history] before him, and causeth the earth and them that dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed" (Revelation 13:11, 12).

The "deadly wound" was received when Rome fell, in A.D. 476. It was "healed" when Emperor Justinian sent General Belisarius to Carthage, and later to Rome, to overthrow the Ostrogothic king, in A.D. 543. The "little horn" (Daniel 7:8, 20) which had "plucked up three horns by the roots" was the growing universal church, in the person of Justinian, as well as successive "holy" Roman emperors. Three lesser rulers were ejected from Rome over a long period - the Vandals, Ostrogoths (by Justinian and Belisarius), and the Heruli.

Now, notice:

"And he [this "lamb-like" beast, which spoke as a dragon, Satan] doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. [Rome!] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed" (Revelation 13:11-15).

From the beginning, the Roman Catholic Church was organized along the pattern of the Roman Empire! It was an hierarchy , which, at the absolute pinnacle of power, was worshiped, as if divine. The ancient Roman emperors proclaimed themselves "gods," and were commonly addressed as "divinity," a BLASPHEMOUS assertion attached to some of the most obscenely depraved, demented, degenerate, cruel human beings who have ever lived!

The Roman Catholic Church developed over centuries, and was never a cohesive, unified church under one pope until the time of Constantine, in A.D. 325. There were periods in history where there were two or more popes, each excommunicating each other! Malachi Martin has documented a great deal concerning the Roman Catholic Church not commonly known. (Books written by Malachi Martin include: Rich Church, Poor Church [subtitle] The Catholic Church and its Money, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Church and The Final Conclave.) Another author has documented the incredible chicanery, power politics, and strife that has characterized the succession of prelates of the Roman Catholic Church. One book, In God's Name: An Investigation Into the Murder of Pope John Paul I, by David A. Yallop, alleges that Pope John Paul I was assassinated. It includes much documentation and thirty-two pages of photographs to substantiate its claim.

History proves that the church which emerges from the dark shroud of the second century (during which there is comparatively little written information available) is in most respects TOTALLY DIFFERENT from the church of the apostles.

Remember, the church Jesus Christ said He would build (Matthew 16:18) was the "assembly" (Greek: ekklesia) of the early apostles, including Paul, who described himself as "one begotten out of due season," Barnabas and others, besides the original eleven, together with Matthias, who replaced Judas Iscariot.

They observed the Passover exactly as did Christ. But thousands of gentiles were coming into the ranks of the church over the centuries. They were attracted to a church which was increasingly "accommodating," and which easily adapted to various gentile customs and practices.

Study the book of Romans carefully where Paul addresses the large church at Rome. Note, however, that Peter is never mentioned in the book! Peter is not mentioned in the salutation, or in the body of the text, or in the many personal salutations at the close, which include references to more than twenty-seven persons by name! WHY? Because Peter was in Babylon, where there was a colony of Jews. Peter was the apostle to the "circumcision," while Paul was the apostle to the gentiles! (see 1 Peter 5:13).

By the time the curtain raises over church history in the beginning of the second century, a completely different church begins to emerge. Paul spoke of what was happening to the Thessalonians. He said:

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4).
Eventually, an "image" of the Beast had been created! Now, a great universal CHURCH was emerging. It had the Roman Curia, the "College of Cardinals," like the old Roman "Collegia," and it ruled according to the principal of the ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY OF ONE MAN - a hierarchy ruled from the top down, with NO checks and balances. History is replete with the gross abuses of many such leaders, a subject so vast it could fill a whole set of encyclopedias. This "image" of the old Roman Empire appeared, to ignorant, uninformed people, "Christ-like," like a lamb. But its message was satanic, the voice of the dragon!

The Mysterious Number 666
The number 666 has been attached to a great diversity of person, places and things - from the Titans of ancient Greek mythology to U.S. President Ronald Reagan, from Nero to the pope, from the "secret symbol" of the ancient "mysteries" to the intricate circuitry of some modem "super computer."

Conspiracy theorists try to link 666 with the "New Age Movement." In her book, The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow," Constance Cumbey alleges the infamous number is a "distinguishing characteristic of the New Age Movement." New Agers, she insists, "consider the 666 a sacred number." However intriguing, Cumbey's imaginative attempts at seeing triple six formations in pictures in New Age publications - along with an obvious lack of genuine evidence supportive of her theories - do little for the credibility of her book.

According to some sources, both the Hebrew and Greek names of Romulus, the legendary founder and first king of Rome, add up to 666. This, to some, indicates that everyone called "Roman" has the "name" of the man for whom Rome was named.

The Greek word for Romulus is Lateinos, which signifies "Roman," and yields a numerical value of 666. Interestingly, "Lateinos" is mentioned by second century theologian Irenaeus (in his work, Against Heresies) as one of several possible solutions to the numerical riddle.

But the problems of transliteration and the fact that we don't know for sure whether a man named Romulus ever even existed - not to mention the fact that literally thousands of names, titles, and words can be made up to add up to 666 - leaves the argument standing on a quavering foundation.

Romulus and Nero are not the only Romans branded with triple sixes. Adventists claim that the letters of the Pope's Latin title - Vicarius Filii Dei - add up to 666. However, we must realize that the more titles an individual has, and the more ways there are of "counting," the more likely it is that at least one of his titles will yield the numerical value of 666 - and the pope is not short of titles; nor are the interpreters of prophecy short of ways with which to count. Moreover, Vicarius Filii Dei is apparently not an officially acknowledged title.

But what does the Bible say about the "number of the beast"? What is the purpose of the number? Is "666" the number of a computer? Of a church? Of a religious leader?

Turn to and read Revelation 13:15-17, and notice these important points:

The number of the Beast is the "number of HIS NAME"!

The number is the "number of a MAN"!

No one can buy or sell unless he has the mark or name of the Beast, or the number of his name.

The number can be "counted" by those with wisdom and understanding.

The number is "six hundred threescore and six" - 666.

The number of the Beast is the number of a man, and the number of his name - NOT the number of a computer, the number of "the New Age," or former President Reagan, or the number on the label of a can of soup.

The BEAST is both the revived ROMAN EMPIRE and the MAN who presides over the revived military and political system. The "image" of the Beast is the great universal ecclesiastical system patterned after the ancient Roman Empire, which was, under its Catholic leaders, called "Holy."

When he appears, those who have wisdom and understanding will recognize him, and will find that his name (or epithet) will, by some numerical system, yield the figure 666!

And, just because national identity cards or computer chips forcibly inserted beneath the skin are NOT the "Mark of the Beast" does not mean the Beast power will not resort to some form of checking up on all its citizens! The fact that "no man may buy or sell" who does not receive the Mark of the Beast is definitely significant.

Remember! star The saints of God are those who have gotten the victory over the Beast, his image, his mark, and the number of his name. Those who willingly receive it in their minds (foreheads), who cooperate with it (with their right hand), will suffer the WRATH OF GOD and the SEVEN LAST PLAGUES.

Those who resist it, who overcome it - who refuse to worship the Beast and his image - may be martyred for their beliefs! Yet, they inherit eternal life; they receive SALVATION, as a result! God commands you and me, "COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE." cross

Written by: Garner Ted Armstrong
edited by BibleStudy.org


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Re: Will You Take the Mark? /Can You Refuse the Mark of the Beast? [Re: Abigail] #65001
11/28/11 08:49 PM
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Revelation 13:16 – 17

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