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Fed up!
#11985
10/04/06 03:26 PM
10/04/06 03:26 PM
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Brighton UK
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I am fed up with fighting this on going battle on my own. I wake up in the morning and seem to struggle through the day even though I usually feel like c**p. I look normal and try to put a smile on my face but inside I feel like I'm going slowly mad. Nobody understands what I'm going through and I feel so angry at the moment. Twice this week I've told two people who I work with about what I've been going through and as per usual I got the blank stares, no curious questions asked and the inevitable silence. I walked away wondering why I bother. Why is it that every time I mention the M word I feel like I've done something wrong and feel like people think that I'm faking it or looking for sympathy. It must be a conspiracy!! Dentists don't believe us. Doctors. Well don't get me started. I've been badly let down. Where do we turn to? I'm usually quite positive but sometimes enough is enough. What's needed is some hard hitting exposure concerning mercury on major tv channels then hopefully the population will sit up and listen. Until then I suppose we just have to tell people what is happening whether they choose to listen or not. I want to thank everyone on the forum for being there. It really does make all the difference. Best wishes to all. I'll shut up now!
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Re: Fed up!
#11987
10/04/06 03:37 PM
10/04/06 03:37 PM
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lucie i know how your feeling the only people who know about me is my family and boyfriend cause i know others would just laugh or think i was weird its lucky we have this forum cause we can all help each other iv learnt alot just by reading peoples posts
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Re: Fed up!
#11988
10/04/06 03:40 PM
10/04/06 03:40 PM
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I feel exactly the same. Thank goodness for this forum and good riddance to fare weather friends.
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Re: Fed up!
#11989
10/04/06 03:43 PM
10/04/06 03:43 PM
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I don't tell anyone about mercury poisoning any longer. I just say I had a very bad virus which left me sick. Everyone thinks we are totally weird, especially since they don't have any problems with their amalgams and think nothing of it. Thankfully the world gave us the internet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Without it, I would feel even lonelier <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Fed up!
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10/04/06 03:53 PM
10/04/06 03:53 PM
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At first i used to tell people but i have learnt my lesson so i dont anymore, i just say i have thyroid probs and because this is recognised people do take you seriously. I went to an interview at my local job centre, i said i couldnt take on a job cos i have thyroid probs and they were really sympathetic but if i had said it was because of mercury poisoning i know the look they would have given me, a blank stare, and thinking i was a nutter.
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Re: Fed up!
#11991
10/04/06 04:01 PM
10/04/06 04:01 PM
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Hey Lucie,
I completely understand. In the alternative health industry, we call that blank stare you mentioned in your first post, the "glazed over look".
—That's the look you get when you talk about something that people don't really want to hear or deal with, and in the alternative health industry, we get it all the time.
Whether we talk about mercury, lead, herbs or homeopathics, and especially when I start talking about the Federal Reserve Bank (a privately held corporation where you send your "tax" money), or the JFK assassination, and even when I talk about my own dramatic recovery from mercury, I just keep getting that glazed-over look.
I firmly believe that there is a cover up and there is plenty of evidence to show it. Mercury continues to be used by mainstream health care (dentistry, vaccines, preservatives), and foods (fungicides) because it makes people sick and sick people are profitable for the "health care" industry. It's really very simple.
I'm glad this forum is benefitting you. You're certainly not alone in understanding the true nature and severity of mercury toxicity and one day, the majority will join you. Unfortunately, most of them just believe what they're told so they quickly buy into the media lies, but it's only a matter of time before you are accepted as bein right all along. Of course, they (most) still will not admit they were wrong.
Keep pushing foward toward health and you will eventually find it. Keep us posted on your condition and let us know if there is anything we can do.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
—Arthur Schopenhauer, 19th century philosopher
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Re: Fed up!
#11992
10/04/06 04:20 PM
10/04/06 04:20 PM
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Thanks so much Russ. Your support means alot.
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Re: Fed up!
#11993
10/04/06 05:16 PM
10/04/06 05:16 PM
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I feel exactly the same. Thank goodness for this forum and good riddance to fare weather friends. I hear you loud and clear, but those fair weather friends are talking a different tune now when they see the improvements in me...they aren't eating crow yet, but they soon will be....watch me fly!!! And you guys will soon be flying too!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Sandi xoxo
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Re: Fed up!
#11994
10/04/06 05:18 PM
10/04/06 05:18 PM
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Ah yes, the glazed over look, don't you just love that!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Fed up!
#11995
10/04/06 08:00 PM
10/04/06 08:00 PM
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I feel the same as you guys. Life is a nightmare really, so I stay indoors and simply sit out eachday online or lying down. I have only my parents and a few of my relatives, but even then, relatives are nice on the surface, but they have judged me severely behind my back and you can tell they have an attitude, even though they're being polite.
My friends? I dont' see them. They have their own lives and sometimes if they do chat, sometimes they'll pop in a comment that gets to me like "oh well, we all get on and get on with life and work for a living" and they know I don't work, so it's a classic dig.
I'm used to it, but it doesn't make it any better or easier half the time.
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Planned Population Reduction
#11996
10/04/06 08:01 PM
10/04/06 08:01 PM
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Russ, I'm sure that you know that mercury is a useful tool for those that advocate planned population reduction. In fact I was talking to Laura about that subject just a couple of days ago. I watched a lecture by Dr. Stan Monteith on this subject and he did an excellent job of describing how people are being murdered to reduce the world's population. Hey Lucie,
I completely understand. In the alternative health industry, we call that blank stare you mentioned in your first post, the "glazed over look".
—That's the look you get when you talk about something that people don't really want to hear or deal with, and in the alternative health industry, we get it all the time.
Whether we talk about mercury, lead, herbs or homeopathics, and especially when I start talking about the Federal Reserve Bank (a privately held corporation where you send your "tax" money), or the JFK assassination, and even when I talk about my own dramatic recovery from mercury, I just keep getting that glazed-over look.
I firmly believe that there is a cover up and there is plenty of evidence to show it. Mercury continues to be used by mainstream health care (dentistry, vaccines, preservatives), and foods (fungicides) because it makes people sick and sick people are profitable for the "health care" industry. It's really very simple.
I'm glad this forum is benefitting you. You're certainly not alone in understanding the true nature and severity of mercury toxicity and one day, the majority will join you. Unfortunately, most of them just believe what they're told so they quickly buy into the media lies, but it's only a matter of time before you are accepted as bein right all along. Of course, they (most) still will not admit they were wrong.
Keep pushing foward toward health and you will eventually find it. Keep us posted on your condition and let us know if there is anything we can do.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
—Arthur Schopenhauer, 19th century philosopher
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
#11997
10/04/06 09:15 PM
10/04/06 09:15 PM
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Aaron, that theory isnt as far fetched as some would think. There are groups of highly influential people born with a silver spoon in thier mouths-- that do feel it is their responsibility to keep financial "order" in the World by population control. They feel it is thier right to play "God". They subtly cull various groups they feel need to be under control., they call the shots and manipulate so these agendas can be fulfilled. I think theyre focusing on the Baby Boomer generation lately-- as this is the largest amount of Westeners. Codex is one of many new ways they can achieve this goal throughout the World. Vaccinations, mercury, flouride, chlorine are some examples being forced on us all --that I wouldnt doubt they originated for the masses. You'd be surprised how many of these types of people are hidden throughout modern society-- spreading thier propaganda. Check this out: http://www.sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues_2006/2006-04-07/feature1p/index.html
"It's better to love than to always be right".-- Mother Teresa
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Re: Fed up!
#11998
10/05/06 02:51 AM
10/05/06 02:51 AM
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I know how you feel. I'm failing all my classes in college. I've failed nearly all my classes in the past 2 semesters.
Everytime I think chelation is fixing the problem, I'll get a huge new surge in symptoms.
I have insane burst of anger, they are quite painful really. I will feel extremely overstimulated for several days then go back to feeling very depressed and fatigued.
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Re: Fed up!
#11999
10/05/06 05:53 AM
10/05/06 05:53 AM
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I had one of my 'best' friends tell me suddenly 2 weeks ago that I was a complete pain to everyone around me, and she didn't want to see me anymore as I was too draining and depressing for her, and we didn't have anything in common anymore. It hurt a lot. I can't believe she would have done it if I'd had cancer or a brain tumour. I hate this CFS label - it implies that we're just a little bit tired all the time. It doesn't begin to cover the trashed sleep, constant fluey feeling, depression, shakiness, hypoglycemia and utter misery. And that's CFS - don't even bother talking about mercury toxicity. I don't have many friends left now, so I;m trying not to talk anymore about mercury. I;m bored rigid of it as well, but I have to live with it every day. It helps to share here.
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
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10/05/06 09:06 AM
10/05/06 09:06 AM
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I totally agree with you Boldylocks. My take on this is that not only does the Bible say that there is a conspiracy among our world leaders and elitist wealthy people (see Psalm 2 and James 5), but there are also occult groups out there that have been planning this for years and have openly said so. For literal concrete evidence of this, one only has to visit the Georgia Guidestones in Elbert County, Georgia--which I believe is just outside of Atlanta. This monument was erected in 1980, and spells out in no uncertain terms that they have a population rollback planned that will bring us down to 500,000,000 people. For some more brief information, see the following webpage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones I personally believe that many of the plagues in Revelation are due to 'designer viruses' concocted in Illuminist laboratories, and they are simply waiting for the right time to spring these on the populations. This way they can kill literally billions of people, and no one will be able to point a finger directly at them and lay the blame at their feet. This of course would be quite different than a nuclear strike (which unfortunately is also prophesied particularly heavily against America in Is. 13, Jer. 50 and 51, and Rev. 18), which would kill many millions of people, but would also leave a trail of evidence as to who ordered the strike. There has been a strange series of unnatural deaths of many of the world's leading microbiologists in the past 5 years or so, which gives me a lot of cause for concern that things are really going to come unglued in the not-too-distant future. I don't mean to sound negative, this is just the world that we live in, and these events are simply the culmination and apex of man's fallen nature. I personally believe that God is unmasking man's true nature for everyone to openly see in the end times, and is trying to underscore our very real need for a redeemer. Sorry for getting off on a tangent, I just get excited when I see others out there that are pointing these things out, as it is nice to be around people that are not afraid to speak out about these atrocities against mankind. Jason
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
#12001
10/05/06 11:31 AM
10/05/06 11:31 AM
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I agree, Jason. We live in perilous times. I totally agree with you Boldylocks. My take on this is that not only does the Bible say that there is a conspiracy among our world leaders and elitist wealthy people (see Psalm 2 and James 5), but there are also occult groups out there that have been planning this for years and have openly said so. For literal concrete evidence of this, one only has to visit the Georgia Guidestones in Elbert County, Georgia--which I believe is just outside of Atlanta. This monument was erected in 1980, and spells out in no uncertain terms that they have a population rollback planned that will bring us down to 500,000,000 people. For some more brief information, see the following webpage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones I personally believe that many of the plagues in Revelation are due to 'designer viruses' concocted in Illuminist laboratories, and they are simply waiting for the right time to spring these on the populations. This way they can kill literally billions of people, and no one will be able to point a finger directly at them and lay the blame at their feet. This of course would be quite different than a nuclear strike (which unfortunately is also prophesied particularly heavily against America in Is. 13, Jer. 50 and 51, and Rev. 18), which would kill many millions of people, but would also leave a trail of evidence as to who ordered the strike. There has been a strange series of unnatural deaths of many of the world's leading microbiologists in the past 5 years or so, which gives me a lot of cause for concern that things are really going to come unglued in the not-too-distant future. I don't mean to sound negative, this is just the world that we live in, and these events are simply the culmination and apex of man's fallen nature. I personally believe that God is unmasking man's true nature for everyone to openly see in the end times, and is trying to underscore our very real need for a redeemer. Sorry for getting off on a tangent, I just get excited when I see others out there that are pointing these things out, as it is nice to be around people that are not afraid to speak out about these atrocities against mankind. Jason
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
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10/05/06 12:38 PM
10/05/06 12:38 PM
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Right on, Aaron. I can't begin to tell you how refreshing it is to be a member of a forum like this, and to be around people like yourself. I feel like I can relate to so many people here, especially concerning that 'glazed look' that I get from so many family members when I've tried to tell them about certain things like mercury poisoning, or relating current events to Bible prophecy. It's kind of disheartening sometimes, because I think that they often feel like I am a downer to them, and only have negative things to say to them, and so they shut out the message without really examining the data presented--maybe it's just too painful for them to deal with, I really don't know. Maybe they don't see a way out of it, and so they resign themselves(?).
I really like this forum, because in spite of all of the negatives about mercury poisoning, this is one of the few places that seems to be filled with people that are really committed to doing SOMETHING about it, and doing something positive to effect a change in people's lives. Even though it appears we are still in the learning stages of dealing with this hideous disease and we are making mistakes here and there, at least we are all TRYING new things, and sharing both our positive experiences and our negative ones too, so that others can benefit from this information in the future. I just wish there were thousands of other REAL forums like this one to deal with the other ills in our society. I would bet that if there were thousands of other forums like this one, there wouldn't be any room for these evil conspiracies to flourish, because people would be on to them in a heartbeat, and would quickly do something to put an end to it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Jason
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
#12003
10/05/06 04:18 PM
10/05/06 04:18 PM
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Not really, searching4truth, because people like their comfort. They've even been confronted personally and they look at you like you are crazy. I believe what you and others said about population control because I believe what the Bible says about the nature of man. But those who do not believe, just don't want to listen. Hey, I can even tell them that they should try a gluten-free diet because they have celiac symptoms and you can't believe how many will jiust look at you and incredulously say that they just couldn't live without bread! They would rather have joint-replacement surgery than quit wheat! We like our comforts and don't like to be "put out". The great majority will sit and watch as the US is dismantled by the gov't and we lose all our freedoms and won't do anything> Is it because of the fluoride? I hear tell that Hitler had fluoride put in the water in Germany to make the people passive. Is that what is happenning here?
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
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10/06/06 12:04 PM
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That's an excellent point Dallas--I think you're correct, and I suppose that was really more wishful thinking on my part than anything. I really should have known better to even make a statement like that, because I saw it first-hand in my own neighborhood when I was simply trying to have people sign a petition to keep the US in control of the Panama Canal in 1999. You wouldn't believe how many people actually got angry, and literally slammed the door in my face! I wonder if it relates back to man's collective nature, and that as a whole people are really innately opposed to truth (John 3:19-20). I guess the Bible is pretty blunt that it takes a lot of effort to oppose this part of our nature, and that we need to stir ourselves up in order to find truth and wisdom, and that there are few that will really undertake the effort necessary to do this.
As far as the fluoride question, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if this had a lot to do with contributing to the people's passivity as well. I distill all of my own water, as I am afraid to touch anything else--bottled or tap. I think that people at work think that I am nuts when I am carrying a gallon jug of water in to drink. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Fed up!
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10/06/06 03:01 PM
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I know exactly what you mean and I also got tired of the glazed look and stopped trying to explain, but I now try to mention it casually (I think it might help to say" mercury poisoning from my dental fillings" as opposed to just saying mercury poisoning) and go on as if I didn't say anything unheard of. Their reactions are the same and they don't understand the magnitude of your problems, but I feel that every time someone mentions this to others that it helps to make it seem less "unheard" of and like anything else the more you hear of something the more it seems that maybe there is something to this after all.
I want to do all that I can to uncover the cover-up that the dentists are participating in.
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Re: Fed up!
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10/06/06 03:07 PM
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I just had a thought, how did the tobacco company thing get started. Who stood up and said that it was dangerous and something needed to be done? How did that all go from being OK to being where it is today?
That is what we need.
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Re: Fed up!
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10/06/06 04:07 PM
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Ooooh--I definitely like that idea Missy! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> I think that a class-action lawsuit was filed by a lawfirm right here where I live in Minneapolis--Robins, Kaplan Miller and Ciresi. I actually personally delivered boxes and boxes of documents to this lawyer on Saturdays for this case when I used to work for FedEx a number of years ago as a courier. This is a bio of her: http://www.rkmc.com/Roberta_Walburn.htmI wonder if we would be able to scrounge up enough data to get something started with these people? I know that I would be more than happy to share my experience once I get all of my amalgams and crowns removed. Jason
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Re: Fed up!
#12008
10/06/06 04:54 PM
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I would like to share my story also,in pursuit of getting this insanity stopped.
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
#12010
10/06/06 10:13 PM
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Jason, you bring up lots and lots of great points.
thanks for that link. It really confirms this.
Funny how these Guidestones have some positve points (such as Nature conservation, ) but there are some very Draconian things on that list to that smack of New World Order. Shows how evil parades itself as being very pure and fair.
"Unite humanity with a living new language."
Wow, that sounds very sweet, but in reality, sounds more and more like Communism takeover
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"It's better to love than to always be right".-- Mother Teresa
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
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10/10/06 09:55 AM
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It's kind of amazing how they present this information to people, isn't it? Almost like a wolf in sheep's clothing in some respects. I totally agree with you again Boldylocks, that it really sounds like a Communist takeover, plus a mixture of socialism as well. 'Guiding reproduction wisely' was one of Hitler's favorite pet projects, also known as Eugenics. According to the Bible, the New World Order beast is to have the body of a leopard and the feet of a bear, which I believe are references to Nazi Germany and Communist Russia respectively in Daniel chapter 7. It's also interesting about them wanting to unite humanity with a living new language, because Nimrod wanted a one-world government as well, and had a single language until the incident at the Tower of Babel.
I get really excited about Bible prophecy, because it is so relevant to so many things that we see going on today in our world, plus it is amazing in its complete accuracy, and the fine detail in which it paints the portrait of today's world. It also points out the lies and deceptions that have been put in front of us for so many years. Even details like the Masonic Great Seal of the United States were foretold in Daniel 7:8 and Revelation 13:18, (although the KJV translators used the plural of 'eyes', rather than a singular 'eye' which the Hebrew word literally means). The six hundred, threescore and six in Rev. 13:18 are in large part pointing to a reference to an anagram taken from the Masonic jewel, which has three triangles embedded in it. In a nutshell, this is a reference to the revival of the ancient Babylonian system whose primary base of operations was to be moved to the United States of America per Zechariah chapter 5 (which is also confirmed by occult sources such as Manly P. Hall's book 'The Secret Destiny of the United States'). At the heart of the Babylonian system is 'Mystery', also known as the secret societies or secret religious orders (Strong's Greek #3466 = 'musterion').
If one takes the three triangles and lays them out side by side, and puts the nine Roman numerals of 1776 in such a fashion where 'M' is at the top of the first triangle, and 'D' and 'C' are at the base of the first triangle, then put 'C' at the top of the second triangle, and 'L' and 'X' at the base, and 'X' at the top of the third triangle, and 'V' and 'I' at the base, a pattern starts to emerge. The hidden meaning shows that the ancient Babylonian system was founded on a base-6 numerical system (six hundred, threescore and six), whereas the apex of the modern Babylonian system is founded upon a base-10 numerical system (1000, 100, 10).
Sorry for getting off on another tangent--I just find this stuff totally fascinating, and love to research and study these kinds of things in the Bible. I wish I had more time to talk about this stuff, but I need to run to a training class today that begins in a few minutes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Jason
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
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10/10/06 02:54 PM
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Going back to my original post last week I just wanted to say that I spoke to one of the secretaries at work today about my mercury poisoning and she was genuinely interested in what I was going through, asked loads of questions and seemed to really care. No blank expressions or glazed look! Wow. What a refreshing change. I shall never give up spreading the word. If I talk to people until I'm blue in the face and just one person listens and understands and can continue spreading the word it will make it all worth while. We must all do the same and expose this cover up before more and more people have to suffer.
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
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10/10/06 06:13 PM
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There have been plagues throughout history long befofe we knew of the existence of viruses or bacteria so obviously these were'nt caused by designer viruses. The bible was written a few thousand years ago. Modern man has been here at least 160,000 years.
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
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10/11/06 09:18 AM
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I looked back through this thread and realized that I veered way off course from the original topic. Lucie, I apologize for that--I also want to say that I am happy that you found someone at work that did not give you that 'glazed over' look, as it is very refreshing when we find someone that will simply listen to us regarding mercury poisoning, and it's even better when they sympathize with us and support us too. I wish I could even get someone in my family to do as much, let alone my co-workers. You are very lucky! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Veg, thank you for your kind words, and I agree that a separate area would probably be more appropriate for these kinds of topics. I don't know why I get so excited by Bible prophecy--it's just one of those quirks about myself that I don't really fully understand. I wish that this could somehow spill into my work life too, but unfortunately it doesn't. I am in training this week for phone administration, and having a very difficult time learning (and retaining) much information--it gets very frustrating at times. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Jill, I was not trying to infer that all plagues throughout human history have been caused by evil human beings--this not only has not even been remotely possible until fairly recently, and even the Bible does not make that sort of claim. I also agree with Bex, how can any of us REALLY prove how long mankind has been around?
Jason
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
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10/11/06 01:57 PM
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Searching4truth, Sorry. Just read through my last post and realised that I sounded a bit rude! I devour any topic on the forum. It's such a breath of fresh air.
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
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10/12/06 09:00 AM
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Hi Lucie,
No, I didn't take it that way at all--I didn't think that you were being rude in any way, shape or form. I just looked through the thread after a couple of my posts and thought "hmmm...I guess I'm getting way off track here, and not really staying close to where we started". If anyone was being rude, it was me for hijacking the thread, and I just wanted to apologize for that--I feel I got a little bit carried away. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
I know what you mean about this forum being such a breath of fresh air. It's been wonderful, and I have learned so much here. I kind of feel like this is my morning support group too, since this is the only place where thinking and rational people feel the same way about mercury poisoning, and feel free to discuss it so openly. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Jason
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Re: Planned Population Reduction
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10/12/06 04:00 PM
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Absolutely. Everyone is so welcoming, helpful and genuine. I've learned so much in the past 6 months and don't know what I'd do without the support I've received here.
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Re: Fed up!
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01/04/07 04:34 PM
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Hi Hammersmoke82 .. Just curious.. May I ask why do you feel this way. Have you had your mercury amalgam filings taken out already or not yet ?? If taken out, why this depressive state ?
Last edited by Nusrat; 01/04/07 04:35 PM.
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Re: Fed up!
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01/04/07 05:01 PM
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HI Nusrat, I'm not hammersmoke, but just to let you know, that just becuase someone has had their amalgams out, does not mean they will automatically come right. Many even get worse, as the body still has to attempt to eliminate it's storage of mercury and to go through that process can be a nightmare, that's if the body can do it at all.
I had my amalgams out 10 years ago now and I am now worse off than I have EVER been. I was coming right at one point from it slowly, after going through hell on earth as my body was trying to excrete the poison, but then after improving, I got hit with a viral/bacteria infection that has damaged me permanently since.
on top of this, I now have apparently got jawbone cavitations, which can cause worse illness than mercury. Sadly, I cannot get help here for that and also the one dentist that does do cavitation surgery will not help me as he feels I am too ill for the job (and does'nt wish to risk it).
So many things can occur alongside the mercury, as it damages/poisons the immune system and the brain, causes a person to be suseptible to many other problems.
Lucky are those that simply get their fillings out and start to improve, and then they cannot understand why the rest of us are not following the same path and often say stuff to the effect of "You'll come right I promise, I did"
But sadly some of us are not so lucky and either go through years of misery trying to detox it, or are damaged later by other things and do not always come back to normal health.
Just thought I'd mention this. So hammersmoke's problems are unlikely to be over because he has no fillings and he may well be going through what the call "The second stage of suffering'. The body attempting to dump it's storage, slow and terrible for many.
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Re: Fed up!
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01/04/07 05:45 PM
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Thanks Bex. So, taking out the amalgam may not solve the problem ? Has anyone looked into homeopathic treatments for mercury poisoning ? I tried to search the forum for any mention of homeopathic treatment but found no results.
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Re: Fed up!
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01/04/07 06:34 PM
01/04/07 06:34 PM
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Hi Nusrat,
Taking out amalgams have helped/cured many. It's like turning off the tap of the poison, but the problem lies in whether a person can recover after it, what damage has been done, and whether they can eliminate the stored mercury.
Sometimes, not always, once the amalgams have been removed, the body, instead of now storing mercury as it had to do all the previous years, now that there is no more daily intake from the amalgams, it can then decide to start dumping it's storage. So it's like being repoisoned.
So it's not always a perfect solution, it's part of it, but a person has to make sure they get it done right, and chelate safely.
I was healing as I mentioned, but everything got ruined by others things, so now I'm permanently sick.
I'd recommend getting them out for sure, but to be highly careful with what dentist does the work and making sure all things are done as well as possible.
I also swallowed mercury during one removal and was poisoned badly from that alone.
So many things went wrong with me along the way. But many others? They have come right.
Diet plays a big role also, going on a candida diet is essential for many of us. But some like me just continue to struggle regardless of what efforts are made, others do very well and come right.
Nothing will solve mercury toxicity if someone leaves their amalgams in. The closest anybody will get is simply trying to improve their immune system with diet and supplements, but there is not much point attempting to eliminate mercury with fillings still in place.
I doubt homeopathic treatment would be of much use if the fillings are still in. I did use one that was detoxing me at one point (after amalgam removal).
It's called Heels detox kit. It helps the body eliminate toxins/chemicals/metals and it is pretty effective for sure, it definitely does help, but i'd not see much point if fillings are still there, that would defeat the purpose.
Not much helps me now though, but before these things sure did.
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Re: Fed up!
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01/06/07 06:52 PM
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Bex, I still have high hopes for you to get through this-- I think you feel despair right now because for a while now, your stuck in this mercury dump-off from the stored mercury.
Please hang in there- also make sure to eat some lean meat like turkey or lean chicken- According to Hal Huggins, animal protein from these (not from dairy ) helped mercury toxic people more than if they were vegetarians. Something about the properties in these proteins that the body needs to detox mercury.
You know about all that anyways- and also getting alot of vitamin C with bioflavonoids, magnesium and selenium as well- just hang in there. You've been such a help to all of us on this forum , and I dont want to see such a cool person as yourself feel in the pits of despair from this cursed mercury.
Hugs Boldy
"It is Better to Love than always be right"- Mother Teresa
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Re: Fed up!
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01/06/07 07:39 PM
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Hi Boldy, thansk for your support, but I have already gone through the mercury dump stage a long time ago, I went through it for years and it was hell on earth. I was recovering after that though for the first time, but was injured later by a severe viral/bacterial infection that has never left me, plus other dental things were done to me, that I now cannot reverse the effects from.
I have had no mercury in my teeth for an entire decade, what I am experiencing is not mercury being dumped, I am injured from multiple factors and this has not improved from one year to the next and nobody can help. Iv'e gone from one doctor to another, homeopaths, you name it. THe damage I've had is obviously permament, even though I still make efforts by eating the correct and healthy diet. Sadly, I no longer believe all this is mercury, I feel too many factors have come into play, which is preventing recovery or even improvement.
Thanks so much for your kind words though, it means a lot believe me. I can only really use some of my experiences with mercury to pass onto others, but as far as the other stuff that has occured, I cannot help that anymore, though I make a lot of effort. I already eat according to Hal Huggins suggestions, I eat all the healthy meats, eggs, butter, fats, vegetables and no sugar, no gluten, no yeast, nothing bad. So certainly, I'm doing all I can, as well as taking supplements. I "was" controlling some of my symptoms a few months ago, but stupidly smoked cigarettes and once again, I'm chronic and even the diet this time aint working. Though I'm sticking to it anyway.
Wish I had the answers!!!
I sure hope you are doing ok. It's great when I hear people recover or "recovering", because it makes me feel that some are rising out of this nightmare. Nobody deserves this garbage and it's not as though we poisoned ourselves! We were poisoned literally under our noses without our permission.
So, hope you'll be one of the overcomers.
Cheers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Fed up!
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01/06/07 09:49 PM
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Thanks Bex for your reply- Im not over the woods yet-- still have some health issues to deal with. for example, I still have some parasite issues and lower bowel issues yet- that come and go.
Our government doesnt make it any easier for us-- they started chemtrail spraying again, and myself and everyone around me at work/ church and family are all having upper respitory/ lung infections starting around Christmas. An elderly co-worker of mine just developed pnuemonia from the same lung issues. I feel guilty that I may have passed it to her, as I was the first one in our office who had the coughing attacks. I wasnt able to take off from work, as they penalize you for taking time off around holidays where I work.
Thankfully, taking collodial silver, some anti-viral herbs like Cats' Claw, Astragulus, Oregano Oil, Black Walnut, and Clove Oil, and I also took some of that New Zealand honey that is supposed to be really anti-bacterial (Manuka Honey) as well as taking Beta Carotene gel caps, some more foods with potassium and Vitamin C powder packets really got rid of mine so that I didnt have to go to the doctor . Everyone in my family and office think I'm a Looney Toon for not getting an anti-biotic - but thankfully, something worked, because I just kept on spitting up yellow mucous until it all cleared away.
I think times in this World are going to be getting tough now and in the years ahead. Alot of this will be inflicted intentionally by those in power on the populations. I do forsee alot of health challenges for all of us who are healthy right now - but not for long- so none of us can get too smug that we are enjoying great health. It can be taken away in an instant. There are already plans from our Powers that Be to continue to sabatoge our rights to use herbs and alternative nutrient supplements, so in the future, I will probably not have access to any of the herbs I was able to take for this current lung infection I had.
We all have to support each other and pray for each other from all this corruption around us.
hugs Boldyloxx
"It is Better to Love than always be right"- Mother Teresa
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Re: Fed up!
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01/07/07 09:28 PM
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I have told a few people, but I know that most don't believe me. I think it's because they don't want to - it scares them as they have fillings themselves.
These days I tend to say I am "allergic" to the mercury in fillings and so have health problems as a result, but apart from people I have met here, I am dealing with this alone. It's an absolute attrocity that a medical system can do this to people and then not help them, but the tide is changing. Very few dentists around here now use mercury - I can't actually think of one at the moment - so I do think that eventually mercury in dentistry will be obsolete and future generations will listen incredulously when they are told dentists put mercury in our teeth.
I too want to spread the word, and for me it's trying to find the right time to bring it up - that has got to be part of the success, in getting the message across, I think - choosing the right moment to speak of it and choosing the right words. It's something I am working on improving for the future.
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