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intolerance to all vitamins #13019
10/31/06 11:11 PM
10/31/06 11:11 PM
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I have mercury toxicity and severe multiple chemical sensitivity. I am unable to take any vitamin without a sensitivity reaction that is pretty severe. I have been unable to tolerate any kind of candida cleanse for any significant period of time, and the candida always comes back. Thinking about removing my amalgams, but I am afraid that I will become much sicker. I have severe memory and procesing problems, chronic fatigue, food and environmental sensitivities, fibromyalgia, tmd, you name it. Has anyone else started out unable to tolerate vitamins and actually gotten better? I know I need to be able to take vitamins to replenish lost nutrients during detox. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13020
10/31/06 11:27 PM
10/31/06 11:27 PM
Bex  Offline
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HI there, the first thing to ever do is make sure your diet is completely strict and totally eradicates anything that encourages/feeds candida. I'm sure you're already doing this, but if you're not completely, you won't get any results. All the vitamins and cleanses won't be of much use if your diet isn't cleared completely up.

You also will not absorb the supplements as you most probalby have a leaky gut because of all this.

I'd be interested to know what diet you're following. It is too easy to make mistakes when people are very toxic and sensitive and it doesn't take much to tip them over the edge. It seems it's too easy to get worse and very difficult to get better.

I wouldn't try to push supplements or cleanses on yourself, concentrate on diet at this point and then add things very slowly later on if you start to tolerate things a little better but even then I'd stick to basic things like antioxidants, which toxins deplete badly.

For me I did begin to tolerate things much easier when I stuck to my diet. However, I have had a lot of bad things happen recently that has caused me to plummet badly and even the diet isn't helping much this time, but I hope it will.

The basics if to totally eradicate sugar, yeast, gluten grains, milk, fruit, potatoes. Concentrate on eating eggs, meats, vegetables, acidophilus yoghurt, some raw nuts (brazil/almonds) and maybe limited gluten free grain.

It sounds boring, plain, but sometimes one doesn't have much choice when you get overrun with toxins/yeast.

Also make sure you're consuming healthy fats like butter, extra virgin olive oil, organic coconut oil. These help heal cell membranes and also encourage bile production, helps heal tissues and helps with toxic metals also. But needs to be done alongside the restriction of all the other stuff that feeds candida.

Sorry if you are already doing this, but if not, yu may find this could start to help you and should eventually allow you to absorb and tolerate added supplements.

Bex.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13021
10/31/06 11:48 PM
10/31/06 11:48 PM
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Anonymous OP
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Thanks for the reply. I have been following the diet you described for a long time. I do eat gluten-free starches (e.g. rice or rice pasta) or starchy vegetables (e.g. squash) two to three times per day because I am underweight, but even such small amounts trigger my candida symptoms.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13022
11/01/06 03:58 AM
11/01/06 03:58 AM
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Hi anonymous, it is very hard when it reaches that point where you're doing just about all you can to no avail. Obviously because you're underweight, you want to continue eating the starches/grains etc, but this acts just like sugar in the body as you would have discovered with your own symptoms flaring up.

It leaves very limited things to eat if you cut out that as well, but here is a link to probably the best candida forum I have ever gone on. It is serious stuff, has incredible information on there and the lady there called "Bee", will probably be able to help you with what you're going through.

Here is the link http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidasupport/

It might not be much, but it's extremely informative and others have also been there like you. Underweight and barely able to do or eat anything. So if you feel like joining the group, you might want to post what you're experiencing and see if others on there can help.

It might be a temporary aid whilst you prepare for amalgam replacement, which could very well be why you are barely able to make progress at all.

Anyway, I hope that link I sent is helpful, even if you go on there and check out the links and files and read up on as much as you can.

Bex.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13023
11/02/06 07:57 PM
11/02/06 07:57 PM
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Anonymous OP
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Thanks for the information on the candida forum. I will try there.

Does anyone think that removing my amalgams might help me to begin to experience some progress, improvement in my candida, and decrease some of my hypersensitivity? I'm so afraid to remove the amalgams and get significantly worse.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13024
11/02/06 08:16 PM
11/02/06 08:16 PM
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HI, you're welcome. Yes, the amalgam removal may well help you with these stubborn issues. Problem is, of course the removal process itself. You'd need to seriously find a good reputable biologic dentist with all the necessary protection.

I suggest before you embark on this, that you make sure you prepare as much as you can. And make sure that what replacement materials you get will be safe for you. One such test for this is a serum compatibility test, where you send blood to a lab and they test it against nearly all known dental materials, and you receive a large leaflet back showing your reactions to those materials and which ones are suitable and which ones are not suitable.

This at least will give you some idea of what might be ok. So you're replacing mercury with something that is less likely to be harmful to you.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13025
11/02/06 09:59 PM
11/02/06 09:59 PM
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Anonymous OP
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Thanks Bex. I have a really good mercury free dentist who follows the Huggins protocol - my dentist was mercury toxic himself and went through amalgam removal, chelation, nutritional support to get better. Two years ago he did the compatability test on me because we were talking about removing my amalgams then. I came up hypersensitive to so many materials. He said he was going to replace it with composite. But I never went through with it. My integrative physician was afraid at the time that I would get much worse and advised me against it. The fear with me is that there is a good chance I will react to whatever goes in my mouth as a replacement. But the hope is that even if I react initially, it will be better than the mercury amalgam. And that once the amalgams are out, maybe I will be less reactive ultimately. But the fear is real. I am so chemically sensitive that I moved out of my dream home (because it was moldy and I was much sicker there) and ended up buying my parents house (they moved into a retirement community). So as you can see, any risk of having reactions to something I cannot remove is scary!

Thanks again for your help. I will be speaking with my dentist again next month when I have an appointment with him.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13026
11/02/06 11:20 PM
11/02/06 11:20 PM
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I completely understand, I am sensitive also. And very ill and I don't have amalgams anymore, but I "was' healing at one point. Just too many other issues occured and I'm now pretty much permanently ill. Not sure what they are but possible jawbone cavitations from wisdom tooth removal coudl be part of it. Plus my ongoing problem with candida.

At any rate, I see how careful you have to be. There is something you could do. You can get a sample of the material (plus the bonding material they use to seal it) and do a cheek and gum test. You just basically get a sample, put it in your mouth everyday and just pretty much suck on it, or leave it in your mouth for as long as you can (taking it out when eating or sleeping) and do this for about two weeks or something and see if there is any reactions.

This is just another way you can test. Plus you may want to look at getting a good porcelain restorative instead of composite. One such good one is Cerec porcelain and apparently they don't "leach" out their components like amalgam and composite. Though again, I'd advise the cheek and gum test with that too.

Whatever you do, I sincerely hope something works out for you. Treading carefully is very wise.

take care and all the best.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13027
11/02/06 11:23 PM
11/02/06 11:23 PM
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I completely understand, I am sensitive also. And very ill and I don't have amalgams anymore, but I "was' healing at one point. Just too many other issues occured and I'm now pretty much permanently ill. Not sure what they are but possible jawbone cavitations from wisdom tooth removal coudl be part of it. Plus my ongoing problem with candida.

At any rate, I see how careful you have to be. There is something you could do. You can get a sample of the material (plus the bonding material they use to seal it) and do a cheek and gum test. You just basically get a sample, put it in your mouth everyday and just pretty much suck on it, or leave it in your mouth for as long as you can (taking it out when eating or sleeping) and do this for about two weeks or something and see if there is any reactions.

This is just another way you can test. Plus you may want to look at getting a good biocompatible porcelain restorative instead of composite. One such good one is Cerec porcelain and apparently they don't "leach" out their components like amalgam and composite. Though again, I'd advise the cheek and gum test with that too. And if you do decide to check porcelain out, make sure it's not the ones that have metal bases to them, because some porcelains have a metal base and it's covered up. Cerec is safe in that area, it's basically just solid ceramic. Though all of them have their metals and chemicals in them, so wise to see how you are with it first. And always check what bonding material they use too, this is also important.

Whatever you do, I sincerely hope something works out for you. Treading carefully is very wise.

take care and all the best.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13028
11/03/06 03:44 PM
11/03/06 03:44 PM
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Anonymous OP
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Thanks Bex. That's a really good idea about testing materials. You said that you have jawbone problems. I have severe tmj problems which I know are connected to the candida and I suspect the mercury. Every time I eat something, my jaw muscles, neck, and upper back muscles tighten up so much that I become dizzy, and that is when the tiredness and fatigue, memory, processing sets in. I know it is not just the food (e.g. carbohydrates) causing these syjmptoms - it is actually the chewing that triggers the symptoms too. What kind of problems do you have with your jaw? When I go to the TMJ specialist, they want me to wear an appliance all of the time that is made of nickel. And someone else suggested I go to a functional orthodontist who will make me up a biteplate or put me in braces to correct my bite. But with my high mercury levels, I don't know that putting other stuff in my mouth is such a good idea. In the past I had trigger point injections which did help, but eventually the problems all came back. I'm sure because I am toxic. And the injections cost me a fortune. So I keep thinking I need to detox instead, but am still considering the other options. Does anyone else have anything like this.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13029
11/03/06 05:30 PM
11/03/06 05:30 PM
searching4truth  Offline
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Posts: 73
Hopkins, MN
Hi anonymous,

I just read on another post a few days ago that magnesium may help you quite a bit with your TMJ issues. I use magnesium citrate myself (Peter Gilliam's?), and love it. I take it late at night, and it is very relaxing on top of it all, and really helps me to sleep well at night.

Jason

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13030
11/03/06 05:38 PM
11/03/06 05:38 PM
searching4truth  Offline
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Posts: 73
Hopkins, MN
Anonymous,

Sorry, forgot to add that I didn't know if this would qualify as a vitamin that you might be allergic to. Are you allergic to mineral supplements as well?

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13031
11/03/06 06:44 PM
11/03/06 06:44 PM
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Anonymous OP
Unregistered

Hi. I am having a problem with supplements too. I can't find a vitamin c supplement I can tolerate or magnesium.

If you can tolerate fruit (I react to fruit), then eating fruit will boost your vitamin c intake without the need for supplements, and that might help somewhat.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13032
11/03/06 09:00 PM
11/03/06 09:00 PM
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Anonymous OP
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Thanks for the suggestions. Lucky me - I have tried a few types of magnesium - Natural Calm being one of them - and I don't tolerate them. I am goint to see my integrative dr. next week and see about magnesium injections. He discussed this with me as a possibility to try with me when I saw him over the summer. I used to take some type of transfer factor injections (which was supposed to boost my immunity) and it did help for a couple of years. Then I became sensitive to that too! I can't eat any fruit because I am too yeast ridden. Has anyone taken magnesium injections - and if so, did it help?


Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13033
11/04/06 12:24 AM
11/04/06 12:24 AM
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Another good way is by using epsom salts. You can take them orally but they taste FOUL, or you can bath in them and absorb it that way. Not only doe sthe bathing let you absorb it, but it also helps draw toxins out at the sametime.

That may well be worth a try. Have the bath pretty hot, because the epsom salts will encourage sweating alongside the heat (but not hot to where you cannot handle it).

Just a thought for you.

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13034
11/04/06 10:59 AM
11/04/06 10:59 AM
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Anonymous OP
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Thanks Bex. I will try it for the magnesium. Someone else told me to take baths with sea salt and baking soda once as a form of detox. I don't know if anyone has tried this one. Thanks again!

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13035
11/04/06 02:40 PM
11/04/06 02:40 PM
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i seem to nave developed an intolerance to all vitamins as well funny thing is even when i was well i couldnt eat certain fruits like oranges or they would give me hayfever type symptoms and i bave been given a vit c powder with other vitamins in it but it makes me feel bad

Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13036
11/04/06 04:14 PM
11/04/06 04:14 PM
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HI there, you're welcome. It may have been me that suggested baking soda and sea salt (that's another good one for detox when you use it in a hot bath), but epsom salts is another one too (plus the advantge of magnesium being absorbed). You can use about a cup or so.


Re: intolerance to all vitamins #13037
11/05/06 05:03 AM
11/05/06 05:03 AM
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Anonymous OP
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Maybe you have too much magnesium in your body already, mercury deranges all the mineral levels.

Sandi
xoxo

Turbinado Sugar in Powdered C #13038
11/07/06 09:46 AM
11/07/06 09:46 AM
Russ  Online Content

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I found that some C powders contain turbinado sugar, which I was very sensitive to when I has fillings in. You may want to keep an eye out for this if you consider taking powdered C supplements.


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