News you won't see in controlled mainstream media.

I believe that the body knows which nutrients it needs, and it should be possible to understand if you need a particular mineral-vitamin through its taste (if you crave that taste you need it, if it gets you nauseous, you have too much of it). This is why I "taste" supplements. I know this might sound crazy, but I think it's true. I think taste sense is much, much more sensible than what is commonly thought. After all we rely on it to get the right nutrients when we eat. If you dont trust your senses, what should you trust? A cat can feel a medicine in its food immediately... Ok, so this sounds already ridiculous but its not over yet, it will get even crazier. In my tasting of all vitamins and minerals I found one that I really "craved" was vitamin B6, and another crazy thing is that after eating it there is a strange sinergy (i.e you get pretty hungry) to eat it with magnesium (as in peanuts). [I dont take magnesium from supplements I think they are quite dangerous, if I take just 200 mg I can be very dazed for a whole day].

Now I read that B6+ magnesium is used a lot in treatment of autism...

Ok, I understand this is a bit too much to believe and I probably lost all my credibility but I suggest you to try some B6 and see how you do with it. The Tolerable upper limit is 100 mg, so 50 mg should be fine (this is, however, 25 times the RDA). To me, it does great.

Of course you should not neglect the other B vitamins in the meanwhile.

There are studies about animals being drawn to foods that contain nutrients they lack. Very interesting stuff.

US-RDAs are stupidly low.

THe US rda's are probably desgned to be close to what one gets with a good diet. The problem is that a good diet is not enough when people are mercury poisoned.

I found a very interesting article with uncommon facts/theories about mercury:http://www.advancedhealthplan.com/mercury.html

among the most interesting:

"Another person, attempting to smelt the silver in dental amalgams he obtained heated them in a frying pan. The mercury vapor thus generated killed him quickly. The two other family members in the house at the time also died." <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

"The brain has a house-cleaning protein that removes dangerous waste products, which comes in three varieties: APO-E2, APO-E3, and APO-E4. The APO-E2 protein can carry 2 atoms of mercury out of the brain; APO-3, one; and AOP-E4, none. The genes we acquire from each parent determine which two we have. People with two APO-E4 proteins (and thus no APO-E2 or -E3) have an 80 percent chance of acquiring Alzheimer?s disease. And according to one study, autistic children have a huge preponderance of APO-E4 protein in their brains." <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />this is VERY interesting and could explain a lot

"The mercury in flu vaccines also plays a role in this disease. One investigator has found that people who received the flu vaccine each year for 3 to 5 years had a ten-fold greater chance of developing Alzheimer?s disease than people who had zero, 1, or 2 shots." this is not so shocking, we all really know that alzheimer and autism are caused by mercury.

"A small dose of mercury that kills 1 in 100 rats and a dose of aluminum that will kill 1 in 100 rats, when combined have a striking effect: all the rats die. Doses of mercury that have a 1 percent mortality will have a 100 percent mortality rate if some aluminum is there. Vaccines contain aluminum." <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> this is crazy...

Not so crazy of a thought. Pregnant women have been know to crave dirt and other things that doctors do admit has a connection to them needing some nutrient that is in the substance they are craving.

When my Dr. put me on a high sodium diet to try and increase my blood volume,(big mistake!!!) I CRAVED avacodos and never even cared for them before.

Missy

If you do enough research (I do), you are forced to come to the conclusion that someone already knows about mercury, aluminum and their combined effects and are mixing these with intent.

I truly hope people begin to realize that incredibly diabolical people wield great power in the world today. As the saying goes:

"The most brilliant thing the devil ever did was to convince the world that he doesn't exist."

>You are forced to come to the conclusion that someone already knows about mercury, aluminum and their combined effects and are mixing these with intent.

...

I dont know. They are either terribly stupid or terribly diabolical. But I cant really believe someone would ruin so many lives on purpose.

"I can't believe..."

This is exactly why they continue to get away with it.

Most normal people could never make these kinds of decisions—decisions that hurt or kill many, however, it has happened throughout history and with a little research and some work "connecting the dots", it's obvious they want you to believe they are stupid. That way, they can avoid prosecution while they dance off to the bank.

My father died of cancer, but not because of cancer. He died after doing chemotherapy which destroyed his liver. I tried to convince him to solve the cancer my way—the way so many others have... naturally, but he didn't. Instead, he did exactly what the doctors told him to do because:

"he couldn't believe"

they (the doctors) didn't know what they were talking about after spending so much time in medical school. That's exactly what he said to me.

Amazingly, one of the Hospice nurses became an herb distributor after I came and stayed with my father, gave him supplements and took him off his death bed back to a nearly-normal life. The nurse had said he would die in a couple days.

Hospice was so amazed, numerous nurses came over to the house to see his recovery for themselves. A couple of the nurses explained to me that they had worked with Hospice for 10 years or more and "had never seen anything like it". Another nurse signed up as an NSP Distributor of herbal and nutritional supplements after explaining to me that she had always thought (and been taught) that herbs were snake oil?a deception to make someone rich. She was changed forever.

Unfortunately, his liver was so badly damaged from the chemo, that it was not the cancer that killed him, it was liver failure about 3 weeks after he stopped doing all his supplements. Nevertheless, the cause of death was recorded as "cancer".

If you really look at this situation, you could really say he died because, he

"couldn't believe".

I completely believe had he gone about handling the cancer my way, he would be with us today.

Concerning the purposeful harming of human life...

I spent a couple years researching these types of subjects with a group of researchers and learned amazing things.

Even Hal Huggins book:

It's All In Your Head

Tells about how he was railroaded and eventually delicensed because he was telling the truth about what you and I already know.

As the saying goes:

"Truth is stranger than fiction."

I have always had a logical way of deciding what truth is. It doesn't matter how I feel about it. It doesn't matter how uncomfortable or unpopular it is. I've always known that logic and reason will reveal the truth, provided you get reliable information.

Unfortunately, the truth (about healthcare today) is uncomfortable and unpopular. Nevertheless, it's true. Misinformation kills.

An old preacher friend told me something once. I believe it's true.

"If a man would lie to you, he would steal from you. If a man would steal from you, he would kill you."

Once again, this saying bears repeating:

"The most brilliant thing the devil ever did was to convince the world that he doesn't exist."

Of course, if we "can't believe" evil exists, then evil has free reign indeed.

I'm sorry for your father.

I do believe that most official medicine today is complete crap.
I do believe that it sould be not trusted.
I do believe that there are much, much more effective and safe methods.
But I also believe that most dentists are stupid and misinformed, not that they are criminals that try to poison the world. After all they suffer from mercury too.

The problem is that medicine is very dogmatic. Once it assumes something it's very hard to change her mind. Especially since it implies that they were wrong.

Another problem is that man often gets into stuff without knowing the consequences (also because they are hard to calculate).

Now mercury has been used quite a lot in the history of medicine. I can believe that mercury is used because its cheap and effective, despite being deadly, because they really dont care much about peoples health. But I doubt they use it for the precise reason of harming people.

Oh well, after all this is a minor detail. The result is that they harm people, on purpose or by stupidity, we will never know.

I generally don't blame Dentists because they are taught that amalgam is safe in dental school. I do believe people—including Dentists—should not be so accepting of things they learn in school, as evidenced by this mercury issue, among many other things.

With all due respect, I have to say that it really is a big deal to determine whether this harm is done by ignorance or intention. The difference is very important and the implications are enormous.

I know you don't know me or my research. For all you know, I could be some illogical, emotionally-based guy spouting conspiracy theories. However, if you had seen and performed the research I and my study group had, you would have come to the conclusion that mercury, and many other modern issues are indeed intentional. In fact, they're not just intentional, but the intention is blatant.

I know it's hard to believe and I don't expect by just reading posts on a forum that anyone will believe. But I am a part of the fast-growing mass of voices that have come to realize that many of the hardships and terrors in this world are not just manmade, but intentional; And usually for profit.

I strongly encourage brave souls to begin research of their own. It's very good (mentally healthy) for you and will help you develop a world-view that actually makes complete sense.

Here are a few resources to start with:

The Unseen Hand (book)

The Creature From Jekyll Island (book)

Racketeering in Medicine (book)

Cheque Mate: The Game of Princes (book)

Vultures in Eagles Clothing (book)

My business partner and I actually worked closely with the author of Cheque Mate. We helped produce his talk show and helped maintain the computers the book was authored on.

My study group also verified 80% of the references in the "Vultures" book at various law libraries and universities?actually reading the court cases?and they were all accurate.

If these human dilemmas are intentional, then the real terrorists are those who perpetrate them.

"DRUG-RELATED morbidity and mortality have been estimated to cost more than $136 billion a year in the United States. These estimates are higher than the total cost of cardiovascular care or diabetes care in the United States. A major component of these costs is adverse drug reactions (ADEs). In addition, ADEs may account for up to 140,000 deaths annually in the United States."

JAMA 1997, 277(4): 301

If you consider that ADEs are only reported as the cause of death 3% to 5% of the time, the actual mortality rate becomes 2.8 million, at minimum. This makes Doctor-prescribed pharmaceuticals the leading cause of death, period.

So you believe that there is a minority of people that controls education of MDs, and the medical research and practice in order spread disease to make profits through drugs and maybe weaken the individuals to better control them?

I dont really know, though it seems to me that these kind of things are hard to organize.

Yet the general aversion for supplements is a very, very good point. It looks like they want to ban many supplements. Now that makes no sense.

I believe most doctors are a bit like cinema critics: they cant say that a movie is good when its good and bad when its bad. They can't use common sense. That's because otherwise there would be no difference between any common guy and them. So they have to lie.

I do believe a few people control most aspects of general education, including medical. In fact, it goes much, much deeper than that. And, this is not a new situation. It has taken a long time to plan and organize this type of control.

It's somewhat complicated, but one aspect of this control came about by forming "organizations" (psudo-countries) with flags that are exactly like the flag of the original country with one small but very significant difference.

Look around the rim of the next several "American" flags you see. You'll notice that some have a golden fringe around them while others do not. Now, look around the rim of flags from other various countries, you'll notice the same thing.

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Pictures of Yellow Fringe Flags from Around the World

By carefully manipulating the law and peoples perception of law, these people (they're still only people) have constructed a worldwide network of statutes that people have been dragged into without their knowledge or consent.

You'll find another clue whenever you hear two important legal terms in commercials. They are "benefit" and "privilege".

These legal terms come from the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) and are used to drag you into agreements (technically, contracts) that you never knew you were a part of. It works like this.

If you exercise a benefit or privilege offered by an entity (corporation), you are automatically acquiescing to (agreeing to) all terms and conditions attached to the exercise of that benefit or privilege. In other words, you are in a contract.

Now, entities have been formed (with flags very similar to the original flags of countries except having the yellow fringe) which offer benefits and privileges. Those people exercising any of those benefits or privileges are automatically in a contract with this entity and agree to follow all the terms and conditions attached to the benefits and privileges. In the United States, those terms and conditions which are offered by the "yellow fringe" entity are called federal statutes (each individual state works the same way).

Now, many wonder how "the Government" can ignore the Constitution and take away personal rights (all the time) which are guaranteed by the Constitution itself. Well, the only way is voluntarily. People, by exercising benefits or privileges offered by the federal government, enter into a contract and voluntarily give up their personal rights. This is the only legal way you can give up your rights in the states.

SIDEBAR: During the OJ trial, you heard the LA police officer exercise his "fifth amendment privilege", not "right". Big difference.

SIDEBAR: You have heard that driving is "a privilege, not a right". Technically, they're right, because you're in a contract. The "Vultures" book explains (see below).

SIDEBAR: Check your mortgage papers. You'll notice that there is a section in there that refers to you as a "U.S. Person". What is a U.S. Person? Read the "Vultures" book and see. Here's a clue. It's a term directly out of the IRS Code (Title 26).

In the book Vultures In Eagles Clothing, this concept is explained in great detail and with much supporting information (court cases, etc) to show people exactly how we got to where we are today and most interestingly, who did it.

There are people who have said, for instance, the income tax is voluntary. They have said this for years. Most people who do not understand the inner workings of the system think these people are off-the-wall, but the Amish don't.

Article I, Section 9 of the constitution forbids income tax by prohibiting any form of direct taxation in the US, period. We (as Americans) unknowingly are in a contract with the "yellow fringe" entity (a.k.a. government) "voluntarily" which causes us to be bound by the terms and conditions set forth by the "yellow fringe" government and therefore, have voluntarily given up our right to be free from direct taxes (the forefathers of the U.S. considered direct taxes highly immoral, and for good reason). This is how these people say that income tax is voluntary. Technically, they're right.

Now please don't go out and stop paying your taxes because you'll end up in legal trouble. If you want, however, you can research how to get free from the system, which is guaranteed by the UCC, because, in order for any contact to be legally binding, it must have two elements: Remedy and Recourse. The UCC does and makes provision for your to keep your Constitutional rights by writing the term "Without Prejudice" above your signature.

This is an amazing and terrifying mess we've gotten into and the best way out is to get educated. I highly recommend a book by Otto Skinner called "The Biggest Tax Loophole of All":

Otto Skinner

It contains great details about the system and how it really works.

Oh, and by the way, people who say that the 16th amendment overturned the prohibition of direct taxes mentioned in the constitution are incorrect. This is not my opinion. The matter has already been settled in the courts (the "Loophole" book has complete information). The bottom line is that the sixteenth amendment does not repeal article I, section 9 and therefore would be in direct conflict with it. However, it's not in conflict. The courts figured out that the working of the amendment, without the A1S9 repeal means something completely different than what it appears to in it's face. It's really an amazing read.

SIDEBAR: Did you know that the Federal Reserve Bank is a privately held corporation and is not part of the United States government? Did you know it is the only corporation in the U.S. in which the stock holders are guaranteed secrecy.

Well, I didn't mean to write a book myself. It's just so important for people to learn about this that I sincerely hope this post will encourage people to read a book.

Believe me; Once you start learning how this all works and you put the puzzle pieces together, you'll have a whole new understanding of "the system" and you'll watch news with a completely different eye.

All the best!

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or lawer. I do not prescribe medication or practice medicine nor do I practice law. No information I share is intended to prescribe medication or practice medicine, nor is it intended to prevent, treat or cure symptoms, conditions or diseases nor is it intended to be legal advice. I only express my opinion based on my personal research and experience.

Wow, you gotta pretty big theory there...

Its much what Marx forecasted, a world owned by private, profit seeking corporations... Now I realize also: these corporations could not care a thing about citizens health, they just want to steal from them and control them, and in this picture we can fit in the mercury stuff and all the apperently "stupid" decisions of modern medicine...

Its a very interesting theory. It would imply the the governement, or better, the corporations that control it-substitute for it, do not care a s***t about well being of the population (and more likely try to poison them and deprive them of their rights). Ugh, thats ugly...

Wait a moment, now that we know it, will they kill us? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

This can be seen as the ultimate stage of capitalism, the illusion of a governement and of rights, in the struggle of the corporations to control the world. The Matrix 4.

So the conclusion is that EVERYTHING the governement does-tries to do, he's trying to f**k us? We are all slaves of the machine? This is scary... we should make a revolution or something? You start, I'll follow you...

Seriously, this might be true to some extent. The moral might be :"nevert trust the authority". Got it. In Italy we say: "trusting is good. not trusting is better". The amalgam issues teaches it's true.

(argh, I always knew they poisoned me on purpose!).

You have a humerous way of putting things.

The really amazing thing about these "theories", is that you can prove them in the U.S. code. All this information is really pretty easy to find in official U.S. documents.

It's a lot like the vaccine videos we sell. They use literature from the vaccine makers and from the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) to prove that vaccines are mostly fraudulent and often very dangerous.

Vaccines: The Risks, The Benefits, The Choices

You see, the CDC just publicizes what is in their best interest, but, if you search through their own documents, you can find that most of it contradicts most of their "popular" positions. They do this (let you have the conflicting documents) so you cannot accuse them of being deceptive.

A good example is looking at the CDC writeups done about NutraSweet. The synoposis of a study they placed on their website made the study sound as if it had the opposite conclusion than it really did when you read the whole study.

The same thing happened on the news a few years ago when they said that a new study revealed that St. Johns Wort had no effect on depression. What all the major news programs failed to mention is that the other two subjects of the study also had no effect on depression, and they happened to be two of the leading antidepressants.

So, either all three products have no effect on depression or the study was flawed. The bottom line is that all the news stories mentioned only St. John's Wort in reference to the study, but neither of the pharmaceuticals were. Actually, this kind of practice is very common, even utilizing "ghost writers" in medical journals like JAMA (The Journal of the American Medical Association).

OK, while I'm at it, here's another example.

While I was performing political research, the Waco massacre happened. I saw a news story on CNN that said that David Karesh claimed to be Jesus Christ. Then they showed a video clip of him saying, "I am God."

Well, I immediately recoginized the video clip. It was from a teaching video that his organization put out and I had a copy of it in my possession, not because I'm a Branch Davidian (I'm not), but because we were studying the situation as it unfolded in our study group.

Here's the punch line. Karesh actually said something to this effect (I forget the exact wording and I don't want to be innacurate): If I could perform miracles and if I could fortell the future, than I am God. In truth, he was saying the exact opposite of what the news claimed, and it is impossible that the TV stations (the editors and writers, at least) didn't know this. This is called a lie.

These same "controlling stockholders" who own the news corporations own movie studios that make movies about the very conspiracies they purportrate as a form of reverse psychology on the public. It's call HIPS (hiding in plain sight).

News anchors who claim to hold a position, such as being a conservative, say things that make people feel that "something is being done" about this issue or that. It demotivates these people from actually doing anything toward their cause because they believe "something is being done" simply because their position is being spoken on TV. These "false position" newscasters and commentators are called "Social Counterbalances".

Anyway, I couldn't be further from Marx. I believe in "capitalism" because it works and is proven and is based on a system of "natural law". It's kind of like the herbal approach to government; Less is more, Do no harm, stay close to nature.

The problem with the U.S. is that the general public has been told endless lies by the media to make them believe in non-capitalistic ideas. Then, when these same people are approached with conflicting information (even though it's true), they reject it.

Even though the idea can be proven, they reject it simply because they "can't believe" that a web of lies so huge could go on for so long without being found out. Human pride also plays a role. Nobody likes to admit they've been duped.

As with most anything else in life:

The answer is just under our noses. It's just the odor of a greedy few that keep us from smelling it.

[please not I am not marxist or comunist or anything]
I understand that this is distorted capitalism, since the general public has been told endless lies by the media to make them believe in non-capitalistic ideas. But it is also somewhat a natural evoulution of capitalism: people sell their rights, corporations get bigger and bigger and more powerful, governement is nonexisting, everything is driven by profits. Its more a "capitalism with lies". I am not really sure how much capitalism is close to nature anyway.

Anyway, you're very right about the "HIPS" theory. I remember I was very puzzeled when I read the documents of the World Health Organization on mercury and amalgams: they admitted that mercury from amalgams was the major source of exposure to mercury, they said that there is no safe level of mercury, they used 20 pages to describe the terrible effects of mercury, but INCREDIBLY they did NOT conclude that amalgams were dangerous saying something like "there is not enough research to prove that mercury from amalgam fillings are dangerous to the general population". I could expect this from the ADA, not from the WHO...

No doubt there are numerous lies—too numerous to number.

I view our system as capitalism turned to socialism. There is very little capitalism left in the U.S. All ten planks of the Communist Manifesto are implemented in the U.S. and have been for years. Here's some info about it:

The Communist Manifesto

It's hilarious but very sad when I hear people speak who believe that we live in a system where there is a "rule of law". Actually, we live in a system of "the rule of man".

Democracy itself means "mans rule".

The concept of "rule of law" came from the idea that there was a preexisting law that was not changable by man. Man could only apply the existing law to new and changing situations, and this was the major pupose of government.

The "rule of man" is dangerous because you soon have those in power who will do anything to protect their position. They will remove the people's freedom of speech because people may say things to expose the corruption and deception.

We live in dangerous times.

I would encourage everyone on this forum to become active in defending our rights to herbal supplements (in addition to other rights) before we find ourselves in a position where pharmaceuticals rule our bodies, minds, countries and world.

"...for by your medication were all the nations deceived."—BIBLE

The point is that communism [at least in theory] intended to use resources for the public good, which is certainly not with corporations in place of the governement [which are presumably driven by thirst of profits and power]

What can we do to defend our rights to use supplements?

Here's what you can do to defend your rights to supplements:

Go to our home page and click on the four links there related to this subject. You will find them near the top of the page.

Herb Allure - Links to Defend Supplements

(1) Donate to the organization of your choice.

(2) Educate yourself about this threat.

(3) Educate friends, family, and local government leaders about this threat.

(4) Keep an eye on the websites devoted to this cause (above) and respond/write letters/make calls when they ask.

(5) Place links to these organizations on your websites, in your blogs and in your e-mails (every one you send; make it part of your signature).

(6) Write an editorial to the local newspaper.

(7) Mention this issue at your next Rotary/Boys & Girls Club/Future Leaders of America/School Meeting, etc.

(8) Be creative and innovative about getting the word out.

...and remember...

"Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. - Edmond Burke"

Russ, I agree .

It is naturally hard for the average person to agree that there are those in high places that may be trying to harm populations intentionally, but I feel it is happening secretly.

Look at Enron. The top CEO's had no conscience in lying to thier employees about their investments- in fact they INTENTIONALLY lied to them to get more of them to invest, so they could steal even more of their money than ever. . To heck that many retirees would have to work in gas stations to survive day by day because they now have no more pensions. These CEO'S had no conscience. They could care less. Also, I might add, that Martha Stewart is still wearing her ankle bracelet and served her sentence, but I dont expect any Enron official to serve any lenghth of jail time - probably ever. They are being protected somehow. While the poor retiree who worked for them is forced to scrub floors at McDonalds.

This is not exclusive to Enron, but no doubt is happening in many other big corporations.

IF those in high places in Corporations would be so selfish and arrogant, It is in all aspects of society- including certain levels in governments.

The Bible even states that there are "principalities and powers in high places"

People have a way of justifying themselves for doing wrong. You can lose your conscience if you continually ignore it. You can fool yourself into thinking wrong is right and right is wrong.

Perhaps many in goverment calling the shots with the FDA, etc., etc... are justifying themselves . Perhaps they think they are actually HELPING the Western World by controlling overpopulation from all of the baby boomers. Maybe they even have thier own terminology for it-- such as "Culling the overpopulated herd" .

Maybe they feel that too many of us growing old at one time will threaten social security and they dont want to have to issue that much $$ out in social security benefits at one period of time. We baby boomers are actually the ones with the most metal filliings, by the way.

Maybe they think that they're helping the economy by quietly 'culling" us without calling attention to it. Other ways they are looking into is also continously raising the retirement age a little at a time. Dont be surprised that by the time us 40 year olds reach 60, that the age will be boosted up to 95 or so. And then none of us will be able to collect.- to their delight. Then they can roll naked in all of the money (excuse the sarcasm, but i couldnt resist..hehhhe)

I wouldnt be surprised after all that has been uncovered already in society.
Erin Brokavich uncovered much decay and corruption regarding toxic water in a particular neighborhood causing cancer. Now the officials there KNEW it was causing cancer, but they flat-out lied about it. She invited them to DRINK the water, and they refused.

This stuff goes on all the time in smaller communities, so expect it to go on in larger degrees with higher authorities . Power corrupts if one lives a self-oriented life. The less spiritual a person is, the more they will be corrupted and influenced- and easily bought.

People have no idea how much they've been lied to in this country.

About 90% of ALL media in the United States is controlled by 3 corporations (Time Warner, Viacom, Disney) or controlled by the people who control those three. These corporations are tightly connected with nearly all other major industries.

(I am thoroughly disappointed in the programming changes made by [formerly] one of my favorite networks, CMT which have taken place over the past year. Come to find out, they were purchased by Viacom [MTV, VH1, etc.] and have had their headquarters moved from Nashville to New York City and have now become a clone of those other channels owned by Viacom by attempting to appeal to the lowest attributes of human nature. [The 20 Most Outrageous Videos / The Top 100 Drinking Songs, The Top 30 Scandals of Country Music, Famous Feuds of Country Music, etc. etc.] I just like to watch and listen to country music videos once in a while when I eat lunch.)

There is a plan—a clearly outlined agenda—that is closely followed, and it has enabled a growing number of people to accurately predict future events. Of course, you won't hear about this rapidly-growing number of people in this "mass media".

I have put a lot of time into research on these types of subjects and have found that it's really quite easy to uncover the coverups. You just have to have the passion to begin and the courage to follow through.

Unfortunately, I've seen many run scared when they start to see the corruption, lies and incredible power wielded by a very small group of self-proclaimed elitist. So many in the United States are no longer contributing to making this the "home of the brave", but rather "the land of those in denial"?being afraid to face the truth.

Isn't it ironic that those who believe in conspiracies are called paranoid by mass media when in truth, it is those who are confronted with the facts and choose denial who are actually afraid. Facing the truth takes courage, whether it be admitting (not denying) that you have mercury poisoning or that the vaccine industry is based on mostly (not completely) lies or learning that many huge events we've been exposed to (like Waco or Oklahoma City) did not happen that way they've been presented to us in the media?not even close.

I urge people in all nations who don't believe in "conspiracies" to get tough and face the mountain of evidence before us; not just evidence, but hard facts that show the true condition of the world we live in and then do something about it.

We need to stop listening to our emotions. We need to get outside of ourselves and study to see how corrupt our governments and media have become and that those in power are largely self-serving monsters?without conscience.

I am doing my part by writing articles on my website ( RussTanner.com ), posting information here that can help people, and providing links on many of my websites to resource that people can use to educate themselves. After all, we have to do it for ourselves.

Examples:

The Income Tax Coverup
Read the book by Otto entitled The Greatest Tax Loophole of All. This is an excellent book. I've read it.

The 911 Coverup

Or see any of the numerous links provded in the conspiracy section of this forum.

I'm thrilled at the huge numbers of courageous people who are waking up to the fact that dentists?propelled by the deliberate lies of the ADA?have been poisoning us. Please note that I don't lay complete blame at the feet of the dentists, but I do place some there because if I was a dentist, I absolutely would not place mercury in the mouths of any living thing. This is just common sense and if you don't have at least this much common sense, you should not be in a medical field. Nevertheless, the ADA has aggressively pushed the idea that mercury is safe without anything close to reasonable evidence.

Here's a little statement from the ADA:

"The American Dental Association (ADA) owes no legal duty of care to protect the public from allegedly dangerous products used by dentists. The ADA did not manufacture, design, supply or install the mercury-containing amalgams. The ADA does not control those who do. The ADA's only alleged involvement in the product was to provide information regarding its use. Dissemination of information relating to the practice of dentistry does not create a duty of care to protect the public from potential injury."

The Superior Court of the State of California
Case No. 718228, Demurrer (October 22, 1992)

I am encouraged by the "waking up" of Americans to the corruption and lies and the dishonesty of the mass media. It takes courage to do this, but then, all great changes take courage.

Check out the bytes of wisdom from some of the great leaders of history:

Bytes of Wisdom

I hope everyone will eventually realize that freedom is not free and will take an hour or two a month (at least) to educate themselves about the problems we face as a country and in the world in general, and then look for the answers in the great sources of wisdom from history. History is a wonderful and complete source for answers to human issues because nothing has really changed except technology. Human nature remains the same and so the solutions do also.

All the best!

I love this thread, just had to post it to add it to my favorites...thanks Russ!!!

Sandi
xoxo

Thanks Sandi. I'm so glad you benefit from it! It makes my day.


While looking over this thread, I thought it would be interesting to share another bit of information.

As I mentioned the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) earlier, the UCC provides the process for preserving your rights by preventing you from entering into unknown contracts in sections 1-207 and 1-203.

In short, this says that by signing the words "Without Prejudice" below your signature on a contract, you preserve your rights and prevent yourself from entering into any contracts or agreements that you are not aware of. This, in effect, prevents you from accidentally losing your Constitutional rights.

Since a driver's license is a commerical contract because:

(1) you have to pay to get one, and

(2) you enter an agreement when you sign it,

it is indeed a commercial contract and is therefore governed by the UCC. (Did you know a traffic ticket is a financial "presentation" under UCC as well, and that when you sign it you're agreeing to pay? More on this later.)

So, my business partner decided to give it a try. When her license was up for renewal in Florida, she signed "Without Prejudice" next to her name.

Eventually, she recieved this letter from the Florida Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) (I've blacked out her private information and her signature to protect her privacy):

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It basically said that there is a problem with your signature and you have to go down and get a new license. It sounds pretty nice and polite until you get to the part that says her current license would be revoked if she didn't comply.

Well, laura responded with this letter:

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This letter explains to the DMV official that Laura has the legal right to place her signature this way and that he, in threatening to extinguish this legal contract with no legal basis, was operating outside the law. That's pretty serious.

Well, Laura never heard back from the DMV and her license was never cancelled.

This is another peek into the purposefully complex system that has been placed to prevent people from finding a way to regain their rights. Of course, the ability to regain your rights has to be in place, otherwise this contract law would not hold up in court. The sneaky (actually, very evil) designers of this law made it as hard as possible to find the process of remedy and recourse, but it is there, at UCC 1-207.

Here is a very good explaination of this section of UCC law:

http://www.worldnewsstand.net/freedom/ucc4.htm

Most lawers who know UCC law will know something about this section but they are normally not taught that this law applies to your legal relationship with the entity called the United States (the corporation). There are two other entities called the United States as well (this has been well-settled in the courts and I have a copy). They have been set up this way to be deceptive and to lure it's "citizens" to unknowingly give up their rights so they would unknowingly (and voluntarily) enter into contracts that require them to pay an otherwise illegal "income tax". The deception is deep, carefully constructed, and—as usual—all about money.

Now about traffic tickets.

Under UCC law, when a person tells you that you owe them money, unless you rebut the statement, it's assumed to be true. You have a limited time to present this rebuttal; Usually 45 days. It was written this way to favor banks and creditors.

When you are stopped by a police office and he gives you a ticket, he is making what the UCC calls a "presentment". This is a statement that you owe someone money. The officer makes you sign the presentment, usually under the implied threat that, if you don't, you may go to jail.

When you sign this presentment, you agree to either:

(1) pay the amount requested, or

(2) excise your remedy and recourse by taking it to an administrator (traffic "judges" are often not judges at all) and state your reasons for not oweing the money. Of course, the administrator is seldom elected and gets a paycheck from the same person the officer does, so your chances of receiving a fair remedy is slim.

Now, if you go to the administrator (in a setting that looks and feels amazingly like a real court room) and state that you were simply exercising your right to travel, guaranteed to you by the Constitution, he will not recoginize the authority of the document because you're on foreign soil. Why, because you're in a room with the banner (flag) of the corporate (yellow-fringed) United States flying (usually right next to the administrator) and that entity has no legal binding to the constitution.

The galley where the public sits, which is behind a wall (although a very short wall), is legally, a different location (a different room) than the one that has the yellow-fringed flag flying. The galley is under the purview of the flag flying out in front of the courthouse, which normally is not the yellow-fringed flag.

It's all a matter of commercial law, contracts, and jurisdiction.

If you gain a knowlege of these things, you will begin to see how the international banking cartel has devised this deception and dragged the good people of the U.S. into another law system. The concept is really not complicated. Only the reading of the laws are, intentionally.

To make the point concerning rebutting a presentment clear, let me tell you this story.

I have some friends who own an herb store and had an employee who was running into financial trouble. The employee lost their house and my friends (very good people) offered that the employee and their family stay in a trailer behind their property until they could get on their feet again. They made a deal that this person would help with chores around the property as compensation for them using the trailer.

Once the person found a second job, saved some money and got into an apartment, they left the trailer and all was well, until...

A few months later, my friends received a letter stating that they owed this person a lot of money. I don't remember the exact amount but it was significant. My friends, thinking this person was out of their minds, simply threw the letter away.

A couple months later, my friends received a court summons, requiring them to apper; They were being sued.

The person whom my friends had helped, stated that they had sent a "presentment" to my friends stating how much was owed and my friends had never rebutted the presentent. My friends told the judge that they just threw the paper away because they thought it was ridiculuos.

This person promptly won the case and my friends were required to pay the full amount to the person or risk having a lien on their property.

So, if you don't actively defend your rights, you lose them by default. The system is purposefully set up this way to favor the bankers and creditors (bankers too, usually) and to harm those who don't know law. They will tell you, "ignorance of the law is no excuse". Of course "the law" (commercial, though it is and not "real" in the way we think of it) would fill up a football stadium over three-feet deep.

Every U.S. state has adoped the UCC into it's own "codes". In Florida, for example, it's found in FS-671.

This corrupt and deceptive "yellow-fringe" system has also been duplicated in most countries around the world by the same small group of international bankers. You can see evidence of this when you see flags that contain the exact same yellow-fringe as the (corporate) U.S. flag does, Canada included.

If someone wants to stop paying income taxes, don't, unless you legally position yourself to do it legally. You could get into big trouble if you don't know what you're doing.

And to those who say, "But taxes are what pays the bills for the country."

Not so.

Your income taxes go to the Federal Reserve Bank; A privately-held corporation (not part of any government and held by the banking cartel I mentioned earlier). Money for the U.S. budget is created out of thin air by the same bank and loaned to the country with interest.

In other words, the very money you use to pay in taxes is actually paid to the very people who have deceptively lured you into commercial contracts that strip you of your rights. It is—in fact—the largest financial fraud in the history of the world.

If you're interested in more information, listen to this outstanding lecture by G. Edward Griffen, Author of the book,

"The Creature From Jekyll Island: A Second Look At the Federal Reserve"

Here is a link to the lecture:

The Creature From Jekyll Island (lecture) - MP3 Format

The Creature From Jekyll Island (lecture) - RealMedia Format


I hope this helps someone see the big picture.

WOW.

This is not quiet the same, but I have thought that it was so crazy that when I took my children to the pediatrian and they "had" to get their vaccines, that I was made to sign a waiver/agreement form before they would give the shot-yet they had to have the shot whether I liked it or not. If I had it to do over (of course I wouldn't let them shot that garbage into my kids again) I would refuse to sign.

My oldest is getting ready to go off to college and I was worried about the shots "required" for her to live in the dorm. All parents that I talked to said that you had to have them. I checked on the web for the requirements by the state and found out that it is required that the college tell you of the dangers of menegitis etc. and let you know that a shot is available, BUT it is not required to have the shot. When I received my health form from the college, it was worded in such a way (even with my knowlege of the truth) that the first time I read it, I thought that she was going to have to have the shot. They are very tricky. I signed the form saying that I have received the info and declined the shot offer. We received another form a couple of months later. I guess that they were hoping that we would go ahead and get the shots. I once again declined their wonderful offer.

I just read an article in yesterday's paper where yet again a judge has ruled that a 16 year old with cancer has to go through chemo/radiation against his and his parents wishes. It states in the paper that "the order requires the parents to take him to the hospital and to give the oncologist their written legal consent to treat their son for Hodgkin's disease".

I see how they can make them take him for the treatments, but how can they make them sign a consent? I'm sure they are telling them that if they don't they will take conplete custody of their son and other kids (they have shared custody with social services as of now), but is this another case of them saying you have to when you really don't? It almost sounds like someone is covering their rearend by having the signed form.

This is scary. You are better off never taking your child to a dr. in the 1st place.

Missy, I agree with most of your letter, but I strongly disagree when you say "I see how they can make them take him for the treatments....." What gives them the right to make parents take a child for treatments? Who made them boss? Esp. when the treatments are dangerous and have outright killed many patients. In this supposedly "free" country why are we not entitled to make our own healthcare choices. You cannot chose a naturopath for your dr. either. Even though we are beyond the year 1984, we have become conditioned to "newspeak" in which words no longer mean what they used to and freedom is fast becoming a mere memory. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

I have heard they are trying to ban natural medicine in Florida, is that true? I was down there recently and was hard pressed to even find organic vegetables in the supermarket; it is actually easier here in Vancouver Canada.

Having been a student of this legal stuff for years, I have learned how—through law—the powers that be (because we allow them to be) are removing all freedoms in the name of keeping us safe and free.

Although most states still have exemption rights for vaccines, they do indeed word forms in a deceptive way to try and convince you that they are necessary. Has anyone considered what kind of an evil and depraved mind would do such a thing? But these are the people we have allowed to become the powers that be.

The upcoming Bird Flu "pandemic" readiness plans state that you will be forced to drive your car under a tent in a supermarket parking lot and receive the shot while remaining seated. It's a type of "drive-thru" vaccination. If you refuse, your property will be confiscated, you will be fined, and you will be liable for a prison sentence.

Those who know some of the history of vaccines know how very serious this is. I really hope people get this video and loan it to everyone they know because we're standing on the edge of a very steep cliff which can only be averted by education and legal action.

I didn't mean that I agreed with them being able to force them to have the treatments (I totally disagree with chemo/radiation. They are harmful and do not cure cancer). What I meant was that I could see how they

oops-something happened to the end of my response.

What I meant was that I could see how they could make the parents do that from a legal stantpoint , but I just can't see how they can make you sign something giving your permission when you don't want to give your permission. If they are going to take custody of your child and make him have the treatments, why do they even need you to sign. Sounds fishy to me-as if they really don't even have a legal right to do what they are doing.

I'm not sure I believe in wide-spread conspiracy theories. But here in the UK we have a royal famiy, very vocal in support of organic and alternative medicine (at least in the person of Prince Charles).

I do believe ignorance is a huge problem, so is inability to dislogde an erroneous thought, so is vested interest in a certain idea.

However, I do believe history will vindicate us. After 4 centuries, we know the real author of Shakespeare was a woman. It sure took us a long time to get there, and sadly it will probably take another century before she gets recognised. But it's progress. And every person who becomes aware of the amalgam issue is a step forward in progress.

READ THIS SHOCKING INFORMATION!!! (POST BY SCARLET)

NOONE CAN EVER CONVINCE ME THAT MOST DENTISTS AND MOST ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORT THEM, AREN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR CORRUPT DENTAL PRACTICES!!!

I totally agree with Russ that most people in high places are intentionally trying to kill us with degenerative deseases just so they can get rich!!! Even if I never did any research on this, I would still be convinced that most dental praactices are corrupt just by the torture Iv'e been through all my life!!! I not only experienced this corruption first hand, but have scientific evidence to prove why I suffered so much and for so many years!!!

Even if the general public wants to give these mainstream healthcare professionals the benefit of the doubt, they still should be accountable for their mistakes. Aren't we accountable whether we mean it or not to rectify things at our jobs and careers? How much more important is it to rectify things when it involves peoples lives!!! I believe there is no excuse!!! If an ordinary person like me was able to research information about the corruption of most dental practices and the organizations that are incohoots with them, how much more should a dentist be able to do the same? Shouldn't they be responsible for their actions? Aren't we paying large sums of money for their expertise? Theres no excuse for their ignorance!!!

If most of the population continues to keep giving these mainstream dentists the benefit of the doubt, they will be unintentionally supporting their practices! If the dentists continue to keep getting rich from using toxic dental materials in their patients, why would they want to change?. Even though I believe that that most dentists and most organzations backing them up are harmful to the peoples health, I believe that the majority of the people (although they are unware) are causing more harm by supporting these corrupt individuals!!! If so many people weren't in denial they would not be supporting these particular dentists. These dentists would have to change their unsafe ways or they would go out of bussiness! If most people knew enough to go to alternative dentists( that really are well qualified alternative dentists), than the mainstream dentists would go out of bussiness!!! Unfortunately though most people have to suffer almost all their life as I did and alot of other people did on this forum in order to see the light. Just me telling people all the bad things that keep happening to me is not enough!.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE CORRUPTION I EXPERIENCED:

1. I first had a few other dentists that were expensive that put amalgams in starting at the age of 7. Than because a certain quack was inexpensive my mother had her as our dentist for about 18 years. This dentist put amalgam fillings, porcelain (aluminum oxide) and nickel crowns in almost all my teeth, along with 1 gold crown, causing electrolysis and about 25 illnesses through the years. This wasn't all! This dentist was constantly making mistakes on each tooth she worked on and charged my mother for it each time. Also everytime I went in I had alot of x rays. Also since I have (mitral valve prolapse) heart problems and was allergic to pinicillin, she would prescribed Clyndinmycin. Even the mainstream doctors were afraid of this drug since it was extremely harmful to the liver!!! Well I was taking it like candy since I was in her dentist chair almost every week!!! My mother had me go to this particular dentist because she was the only dentist who honored our dental insurance plan in our area.

2.The 2nd quack ruined 10 teeth of mine causing them all to decay and have bone loss, and even causing more problems.

3. The dental society acknowleged he ruined all 6 of the teeth I knew about at the time, but made the dentist accountable to refund me only $1,800.

4. After this my teeth were such a mess and I was so sick from all the amalgams and other heavy metals that approximately 5-8 dentists refused to work on me.

5. The 3rd quack was a biological dentist who did a great job at removing the toxic metals, but unfortunately replaced them with toxic white composites, at the same time as causing excusiating painful Lingual and Inferior Alveolar nerve damage. All for the price of $15,000. I flew all the way to Colorado Springs and stayed in the Candlewood suites hotel for 2 months, and flew back home again with the temporary crowns and bridges still in my mouth. It would have costed $30,000. If I trusted him to put the permanents in.

6. Now only 6 months later I got gingivitous from wearing temporary crowns for too long and got an abcess clear up in the bone of one of the cavitations I had. As you can see, It doesn't end here. Ever since I was 7, I was sucked into the world of dentistry whether I liked it or not, I feel like a bug that is caught into a spider web until the life in me is sucked out!.

DURING MY EXPERIENCE I LEARNED THAT:

7. Most Insurance companies cover only the most cheapest toxic dental materials, such as amalgam fillings, and porcelain. Not high grade holistic gold or diamondcrown, or diamondlite,etc

8. Most Dental Laboratories don't have to use safe materials. They can just get away with doing the minimal amount of testing required by law, so the material can be toxic and you won't know it because you won't know all thats in it!!!

9. In most cases Its unethical for one dentist to tell on another even if he is at fault. He'l be shunned by the dental community.

10. Most Dentists can refuse treatment even if you have an infection, or are so sick and ready to die like in my case!!!

11. In most cases Dentists don't have to tell you how toxic a dental materials is. Most of them also don"t have to be accountable for any sicknessess you get from toxic dental materials!!!

This is a statement of submission by the American Dental Association, Superior court, State of California, in and for the county of Santa Clara accordinally to the book "A mouth full of poison," by Myron Wentz:

" THE ADA OWES NO LEGAL DUTY OF CARE TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM ALLEGEDLY DANGEROUS PRODUCTS USED BY DENTISTS....DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION RELATING TO THE PRACTICE OF DENTISTRY DOES NOT CREATE A DUTY OF CARE TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM POTENTIAL INJURY."

12. The dental society is affiliated with the American dental assosiation. I thought at first they were there to help the patient, but in reality their there to protect the dentists mainly. The Dental boards and and Dental examiners are there mainly to protect the dentists as well. In some states a dentist can have many complaints against him and they don't have to tell you about it. Also in some states he could be in a court case and they don't have to tell you about it unless he is found quilty. In most cases the dentist only has to take a refresher course and is allowed to still practice dentistry even if he is found at fault unless it is for sexual harrassment.

13. Small claims court is only a mediation service. If the dentist looses the case he still doesn't have to pay you by law in most cases!

14. If you go to Civil Service court they don't require that you have an attorney, but the dentist will probably have one. Also the paper work is so difficult that you need an attorney to help you figure it out. This is not good because it cost more to hire an attorney than what you would get for a settlement in if you win the case. You prabably won't be able to go to this type of court or to a higher court since it is almost impossible to get a dental malpractice attorney to represent your case anyway.

15. It's very rare if you can find an attorney for any type of court that will take your case. They feel it is more difficult to prove whos right and whos wrong in a dental malpractice case compared to a medical malpractice case. It would cost you way more for all the attorneys work, than what you would get as a settlement even if you won the case for alot of money! Not only that, but the dental expert that you need to prove that there was dental malpractice is so expensive that you would be better off just not going to court at all. Even if you won, you would end up paying the dental expert and the attorney much more than what it was worth!!! I called about 15 attorneys that advertised Dental malpractice. They said I couldn't possibly pay them enough to make it worth their time, or they said that they didn't want to take my case, or that they just didn't do Dental malpractice.

PLEASE NOTE: That it varys from state to state on the rules as how each of these organizations work. In some states these organizations are more helpfull to the patient depending on what state your in! Unfortunately in California and Colorado I did not experience much help from the organizations I mentioned above. Not only I, but alot of other people experienced the same unfortunate situations as I did in various parts of the contry!!! For example, some people have even lost all their teeth and still couldn't find an attorney to represent their case!!!

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Oh Scarlet, I am so sorry for all you have suffered, it makes my problems seem so paltry....it is so hard not to be angry at the injustice, and especially when you have mercury toxicity. I have no doubt that the degree of amalgam toxicity is well known throughout the medical field...my doctor's jaw literally dropped when I told him I was getting my amalgams out....and my old dentist got angry when I told him how much better I was after getting them out.

After the cavitations and root canals are treated and I am fitted with a partial plate, I am going back to tell them how much better I am finally, I will probably be almost 60!!! My whole life has been messed up by health problems, 55 years of illness and it all stems from the mercury!!! Bloody hell!!! We have to redirect our energies to helping spread the word...and help as many others as we can.

Best love and blessings,
Sandi
xoxo

Hi Sandi,

Thank you so much for your compassion for me!!! I also feel terribly bad for you too that you had to suffer for 55 years!!! To think of how many years was wasted on suffering for both of us is extremely over welming!!!

About spreading the word about all this corruption, I am going to get all the information I have researched concerning this and I'm going to make a book out of it, if I can get healthy enough to do it. Although we had to suffer so much along with everyone else on this forum, at least through our experiences we will be able to prevent many others from suffering as we did when we tell everyone about it!

Don't forget to do research on the partials you get, since a lot of dentures and partials are made out of toxic materials.
There are some that are less toxic than others though. One thing nice about dentures and partials is that at least you can take them out of your mouth without paying a dentists thousands of dollars if they are affecting your health in anyway if you have to. If you look up www.drhuggins.com and click to library. Then to the Dental materials in your mouth, It talks about safer dentures and partials there.

I just wanted to warn you that just because a dentist says he is alternative doesn't mean he is totally. Make sure you request the dental materials you want! I took it for granted that my biological dentist was going to replace my toxic metals for safer materials and got toxic white composites instead! I hope you get the safest there is from your naturopathic dentist !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Click to, HOW TO RESPOND TO THOUGHS IN DOUBT, in this MERCURY SECTION OF THE FORUM, to my 2nd POST from SCARLET that says NOT ONLY MERCURY AMALGAMS ARE TOXIC, BUT ALMOST ALL OTHER DENTAL MATERIALS. It talks about the most toxic to the safest dental materials.

God bless you and I hope the best for you when you get your cavitations, root canals, and amalgams out!!! Believe me, you will feel a million times better!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />