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(huggins) porphrin and mercury urin test normal but feel very bad
#17824
04/17/07 06:03 PM
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I am 45 and up to 5 years ago felt very good health wise and emotionally , but the last 5 years have been a living hell, I have been to many doctors and have had many blood and urin test which all come back normal ( wondering what the hell is happening to me) , my current symtoms are as follows weakness upon waking,depression, sort term memory loss,exsesise intolerance, joint pains,lower back pain,can not take vitamin suppiments without feeling bad, weight loss,lack of motivation ,suicidal thoughts,hot and cold flashes,urinating 6-10 times a day and night ,chemical sensative,after reading as much as I can on amalgam illness problems and symtoms most of the symtoms that I have sound very simular to this condition ( I had 15 amalgam fillings and am replacing them slowly with composites , I had a urin porphrin and mercury test done as per huggins and cutler books ,mercury came back low and porphrins came back normal , does anyone out there have a simular expierience
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Re: (huggins) porphrin and mercury urin test normal but feel very bad
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04/17/07 07:51 PM
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Well everything you describe sounds like classic mercury poisoning. In my book, if it looks like a rose, smells like a rose, it generally is one. I had tests done and they all came back as showing low levels of mercury, as though there was nothing wrong.
Well I was (and am) very poisoned and amalgam removal and chelation improved me, so yes it was mercury. Unfortunately my health has been devastated by other problems (viral, bacterial etc), so my improvement was short lived. Otherwise I was recovering from mercury toxicity.
I know that testing for mercury is notoriously inaccurate and difficult. Whilst one patient may show positives for poisoning, another may not, yet the one that may not maybe even worse! Mercury hides and it also depend where it is and what weaknesses you have.
Generally you can look up a mercury symptom list and simply see if that fits in with what you are suffering. It would be hard to find it being anything else, as amalgams are usually the ongoing source of toxicity and even small amounts of mercury to some people is devastating. It doesn't take much to poison some of us, and some of us store it and do not eliminate it enough, so we get retention toxicity. It's a build up over years and finally oneday, you're ill and poisoned and don't know what happened. It may happen out of the blue, or something else that hit your immunity may have caused you to then become suseptible to the mercury and you can then become poisoned.
I would say that it's wise to get amalgams replaced, even if you are not entirely sure. You will at least be eliminating the possible cause of your problems, or the contributing factor.
I don't think I had the exact tests you did, so I can't give an answer on those. I had hair testing and a DMPS challenge test. All came up very low mercury. Many reasons that can occur. SAdly the doctors then did not believe I was mercury toxic. Yet I was worse than many due to my body holding onto mercury, rather than eliminating it. Tightly bound basically.
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Re: (huggins) porphrin and mercury urin test normal but feel very bad
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04/18/07 12:45 PM
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Have you tested your blood sugar levels? I thought I was seriously heavy metal poisoned, but now believe that hypoglycemia is equally at fault for all my symptoms. I have tested my blood sugar levels many times at the doctors, but they always turned out normal. It wasn't until I got a home testing kit that I found my levels to be dangerously low. The reason for my normal levels at the doctors is that I am somewhat nervous during these visits for many different reasons, one being I feel my doctor treats me as a hypocondriac or a hysteric lady. This automatically raises my adrenaline stress levels which again raises my blood sugar levels. When testing at home, in normal peaceful conditions, my levels were seriously low. Especially upon waking when I always feel my worst after a long night without food. Even when consuming lots of sweets for an experiment did my blood sugar levels remain low.
Taking vitamins and minerals always made me feel worse, no wonder, as most of them especially magnesium and zinc raise insulin levels and cause an even worse drop in blood sugar. I have since found that alpha lipoic acid, taurine, methionine, vitamin C, vitamin E, fish oils, bilberry extract, monosodium glutamate, calcium, olive leaf, vinegar, lemon, biotin, cinnamon, and bitter melon all lower blood sugar levels and will cause adverse symptoms to someone with hypoglycemia.
I thought, compared to others, that I was eating a very healthy diet, but it turs out I overproduce insulin even after the tiniest amount of carbs. This is why I always felt better on the candida diet, which allowed no carbs, fruit or candy, but lots of meat and vegetables.
I have copied a text about hypoglycemia from the net. I hope you find it interesting.
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Conquering Anxiety, Depression and Fatigue Without Drugs - the Role of Hypoglycemia by Professor Joel H. Levitt
Stress is often blamed as the root cause for anxiety, depression and fatigue, but, although stress can make any problem worse, the source of such problems is often physical in nature. And hypoglycemia is one of the major physical causes.
This article covers the following:
What is Hypoglycemia? - the cause of hypoglycemia and its effects.
Typical Hypoglycemia Symptoms - the wide range of mental, emotional and physical symptoms.
Testing for Hypoglycemia - standard medical testing and why it is often unreliable.
The Solution to Hypoglycemia - a list of dietary and nutrient recommendations, with special notes and cautions.
Recommended Reading - books and other references that will give you a more complete understanding.
What is Hypoglycemia?
First of all, let's be clear on one major point - hypoglycemia is not a "disease" in that you either have it or don't, it is a condition, and, in most cases, it is fully reversible.
Some types of hypoglycemia are caused by a tumor or other physical damage to a gland. However, that is rare, and not the focus of this article. The more common type of hypoglycemia - called "functional," "reactive," or "fasting" - is your body's reaction to what you put in it.
Hypoglycemia is the body's inability to properly regulate blood sugar levels, causing the level of sugar in the blood to be too low or to fall too rapidly.
Blood sugar, in the form of glucose, is the basic fuel for all brain operation and physical activity, including muscular. If the available fuel is too inadequate, any marginal physical or mental system may start to shut down. In addition, the glandular imbalances that result, as the glands struggle to regulate the sugar level, cause their own symptoms - especially high adrenaline, which is usually perceived as anxiety or panic, but, in some cases, can lead to violence. (Am I saying this has something to do with domestic violence and street crime? YES! And there is expert congressional testimony to back this up.)
Here is a typical pattern:
1. You eat or drink excess sugar (the average American consumes well over 100 lbs/yr.).
2. The body releases insulin to put sugar into storage, but the insulin response is excessive (due to ADAPTATION and/or chromium deficiency).
3. About 2 hours later so much sugar has been put into storage that there is not enough left in the blood, and you get a low-blood-sugar emergency.
Symptoms such as weakness and mental fog begin.
4. The body responds to the emergency by dumping adrenaline into the system.
More symptoms follow from the high adrenaline, such as racing heart, anxiety, etc., etc., etc..
5. The roller coaster rises and falls in critical hormones, causing an unbalance in all the hormones and often resulting in ongoing symptoms.
Many Americans have hypoglycemia to a greater or less degree. The symptoms comprise a remarkably long list and range from mild discomfort to being completely incapacitated. Typical Hypoglycemia Symptoms
Following is a list of symptoms I've drawn from multiple sources, plus my own observations. The list is long because symptoms result not only directly from low blood glucose but also from the glandular imbalances that result, especially high adrenaline. Only one or two symptoms may be present, but most often, you will find several.
Note that although I've listed mental and physical symptoms separately, they often overlap.
Mental Symptoms Anxiety - ranging from constant worry to panic attacks. Phobias - claustrophobia, agoraphobia, acrophobia, and so on. This is anxiety tied to a particular issue. Nervousness Restlessness Irritability Depression - especially with females Violent outbursts - especially with males Obsessive Compulsive Behavior Forgetfulness - this may just be choline/inositol deficiency. Inability to concentrate Unsocial, Asocial, Anti-Social behavior Crying spells Nightmares & night terrors - terror can continue after you wake up. It is especially indicative of hypoglycemia if you wake in a cold sweat, if the terror continues, if there is pressure on the chest, or if you are unable to breathe.
Physical Symptoms Headaches - especially if a meal is missed. Tachycardia - racing pulse due to high adrenaline. Fatigue, weakness, "rubbery" legs. Tremor or trembling of arm, leg, or whole body (outside or inside) Twitching, jerking, or cramping of a leg muscle - cramping may be just calcium or magnesium deficiency or food allergy response. Waking after 2-3 hrs sleep Tinnitus - ringing in the ear, due to high insulin in about 70 % of tinnitus cases. Abnormal weight - too high or too low. Compulsive craving for sweets, colas, coffee, alcohol Lack of appetite A diagnosis of "mitral valve prolapse" Crawling sensations on skin Fainting Blurred vision Smothering spells - gasping for breath Red blotches on skin or circular arcs of red skin Lack of sexual drive Chest pain - severe, but EKG normal. Can't tolerate bright light or loud sounds Joint pains
Another clue is that the symptoms are usually worse in the early morning after waking, and get better after being up and around a full day.
It's a remarkably long list and for very good reasons!
Many of the above symptoms can be found in the standard PDR (Physician's Desk Reference) as the typical expected side effects for a NORMAL HEALTHY person given an injection of adrenaline (alternate name epinephrine).
Why should anyone not injected with adrenaline have such symptoms? To understand what is going on, we have to understand how humans have been designed to survive emergencies. Suppose you meet a tiger on the road. What happens? Immediately an emergency situation is detected and the adrenal gland dumps adrenaline. The adrenaline prepares you for vigorous muscular activity. It brings sugar out of storage for muscular action. It raises the heart rate so your blood circulates faster and turns off digestion. You are now prepared for FIGHT or FLIGHT.
Some people will fight, their adrenaline response will be ANGER, most people will run, their adrenaline response is felt as FEAR.
In most cases, the simplest WORKING DEFINITION OF ANXIETY is the way you perceive HIGH ADRENALINE. If adrenaline is moderately high for too long a time, people feel anxious and wonder why. This is called "free-floating " anxiety.
If, on the other hand, adrenaline shoots up to a very high value rapidly, and then decreases rapidly, the anxiety is brief but intense. This is called a "panic attack." If you regularly pick a particular thing to tie the anxiety to, such as high places, that's called a "phobia." What's the problem? What's wrong with the life-saving response to a tiger on the road?
The human body, because it's a wonderful self-adjusting system has a mechanism called ADAPTATION. If you repeatedly have emergencies the body learns to dump larger and larger amounts of adrenaline at the slightest hint of an emergency. The adrenal gland puts out about 60 different hormones- repeated requests for adrenaline dumps will affect all the others.
A hair-trigger adrenaline response is not what you want in modern life. What happens in modern life is that several times a day many people have low-blood-sugar emergencies. This leads to adrenaline dumping and ANXIETY, it also leads to hormonal imbalances.
NORMAL SUGAR PROCESSING: Eat food including sugar; pancreas releases insulin; insulin puts excess sugar into storage for use later.
"REACTIVE HYPOGLYCEMIC" PROCESSING: Consume excessive sugar food or beverage; pancreas dumps excess insulin (remember ADAPTION); About two hours later blood sugar crashes to emergency level; adrenal gland dumps excess adrenaline (remember ADAPTION); RESULT=ANXIETY and HORMONAL IMBALANCE
The saving grace is that hypoglycemia, even early-stage diabetes when the pancreas starts to give up, is fully reversible with diet and nutritional supplements.
Testing for Hypoglycemia
Standard medical testing for hypoglycemia is the Glucose Tolerance Test (GTT). The person being tested is required to fast for 12 hours, then have a drink with a super-high sugar content - a disaster plan for someone with hypoglycemia. The blood is then tested every 30 minutes, for 6 hours. Unfortunately, the test is unreliable as it is frequently done in an inadequate way or is misinterpreted.
The most frequent problems with the GTT are: The test is run for less than 6 hours - a 3 -hour test certainly can't catch a drop at the 5.5 hour point). The test measures glucose level but fails to measure insulin and adrenaline - your blood sugar may be holding up because your adrenal gland is dumping huge amounts of adrenaline. Glucose alone can't tell the full story. The symptoms are not carefully observed during the test - the classic story is of a man who went for his test, drank the sugar solution, became violent, and smashed the furniture in the waiting room. Upon leaving, he was given a bill for the furniture, and a test stamped "normal!" His glucose level didn't go below the level that lab used as an absolute criterion! If you become violent during the test, or faint, or break out in a cold sweat and start shaking you have FAILED the test REGARDLESS of the NUMBERS! The rate of drop in blood sugar is ignored - the lowest glucose level is important, but the rate of drop is just as important. Falling too rapidly from high-normal to low-normal represents poor regulation and will give symptoms.
Because of the above testing problems, hypoglycemia is best diagnosed by its symptoms.
The Solution to Hypoglycemia
To reverse the condition, the glands must be allowed to recover. This is done by eliminating all foods and beverages that deliver sugar rapidly. Thus the cure for "low blood sugar" is to AVOID sugar and simple carbohydrates, like white wheat flour, that convert rapidly into sugar.
Stress, of course, makes all problems worse. And if you can eliminate all stress - fine. But, realistically, it is much easier to simply control what you consume.
My recommendations for handling hypoglycemia consist of diet, and nutritional supplements. There are also excellent full-length books available in the Recommended Books list at the end of this article. I especially recommend books 1 and 2.
Dietary Recommendations Best foods to eat raw vegetables raw mixed salad greens seeds and nuts (not peanuts) fish
Next best cooked vegetables cooked greens (Collard greens, Mustard greens, Spinach etc.) organic eggs (hardboiled for safety) turkey organic beefliver organic beef beans whole grains (one at a time)
Best snack carry seeds & nuts.
Best beverages Freshly made vegetable juices. Most hypoglycemics should probably limit carrots in juice form to about 1/day or less, as a sweetener for other veggies.
Spring or filtered water.
Herbal tea - from one or two herbs, not "naturally flavored" blends.
Worst food ingredients
The packaging for some foods can be misleading. For example, many packages will say "Sugar Free." However, if you read the ingredients, you will find types of sweeteners just as harmful. Therefore, it is important to read all labels carefully.
Hypoglycemics should avoid the following:
Sugar - this includes sucrose, fructose, raw sugar (sugar + dirt), brown sugar (sugar, dyed brown), corn syrup, "dried cane juice", "raisin juice" etc., molasses, malt, malted barley, even maple syrup and honey.
Hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated oils - including vegetable shortening and margarine. These are hormone imbalancers.
White wheat flour and white rice - nutrients that prevent heart disease & cancer are removed from these products to give longer shelf life. Fiber is also removed, therefore the starch rapidly converts to sugar.
Peanuts & Corn - high mold sources which tax the immune system.
Special Notes and Cautions About Diet
The above list represents my personal current opinion, and is periodically modified. Consideration was given both to the influence on sugar metabolism, and on general health. Many foods not listed above as best or worst can be eaten in moderation, assuming of course that you are not allergic to them. Additionally, the following factors need to be observed
Organic Foods If you can't get "organic" foods, use non-organic foods less often.
Vegetarians If you are a vegetarian, of course eliminate animal foods. The vegetarian route requires more knowledge and more work; but I currently believe that, in the long run, it gives the best health in most cases - for hypoglycemics as well as "normals."
Food Allergies Food allergy and reactive hypoglycemia frequently go hand in hand. If you are allergic to one or more of the best foods, then they are not acceptable for you.
Individual food allergies must be carefully considered with any restrictive diet. For example, a grain-based diet can be a disaster for someone with grain allergies, even if the carbohydrate level can be tolerated. Another example is eggs, which are a common allergen.
To find out what you are allergic to is a gradual process of learning which involves primarily selective elimination, for at least 5 days, with careful observation of symptoms.
Likes and Dislikes I also believe that you must be reasonably comfortable with your food choices to assimilate the food properly, i.e. foods you hate won't make a good diet for you.
Beware of Liquids Containing Sugar Liquids containing sugar deliver sugar to the body too rapidly. In addition to obvious disasters such as sodas, colas, sweetened coffee (a double whammy if caffeine is present), and alcohol (behaves like liquid sugar), you should also AVOID FRUIT JUICES (an exception is grapefruit which can usually be tolerated in moderation, perhaps 4 oz./day)
AVOID SKIM MILK. Milk would be O.K. for hypoglycemics, but a harmful enzyme, Xanthine Oxidase, makes it a bad choice for all. Consider instead organic yogurt, from whole milk, NOT skim or low-fat. The harmful enzyme Xanthine Oxidase is de-activated when yogurt and cheeses are made.
Avoid Artificial Sweeteners Artificial sweeteners have been a major American health disaster, especially aspartame, and should not even be considered as a substitute for sugar. They make recovery for hypoglycemics much more difficult and are a major health hazard. Nutrient Recommendations The most important of the supplements are high level vitamin C - which is the primary support for the adrenal gland - and a good multiple formula containing chromium.
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Re: (huggins) porphrin and mercury urin test normal but feel very bad
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04/18/07 01:33 PM
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Nice posts, thank you.
Desperate, from what I understand Doctors can only test for the mercury in your bloodstream. They cannot test for the mercury in our organs and in our brain. That is why so many people improve after they have their amalgams removed and stick to a safe chelation protocol, yet their tests showed no mercury.
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Re: (huggins) porphrin and mercury urin test normal but feel very bad
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04/19/07 09:24 AM
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Did you have a chelation challenge test? I had the 6 hour urine test for metals and my mercury was <1. I did take this test about 8 months after having all 7 amalgams removed. When I took the chelation challenge test the results were very different. My number was 14, listed as "very high". With the challenge test I took DMSA and then collected my urine for 6 hours. Basically it showed that the mercury is stored deep in my tissues. When I took a medication to pull it out I had tons of mercury in my urine.
I also had tests for my thyroid, adrenals, neurotransmitter levels, and a GI panel done. all of them showed problems. Hashimotos disease of the thyroid (curable according to my doctor), depressed adrenals, low Serotonin levels, and a mess of a gut. 2 kinds of yeast, some parasites, several bad bacterias, and antibodies for soy, gluten, eggs, and dairy. Most of these tests were done through Diagnos-Techs, Doctors Data, and Neuroscience, inc. I had the regular blood test for my thyroid and it was always normal. I'm not sure what the hggins porphrin tests is, did you take any chelation agents before collecting the mercury?
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Re: (huggins) porphrin and mercury urin test normal but feel very bad
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04/19/07 12:06 PM
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sorry, I meant to write collecting the urine, but I am unable to edit for some reason. Just wanted to clarify. chigirl
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Re: (huggins) porphrin and mercury urin test normal but feel very bad
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04/20/07 05:52 PM
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Id still do the hairtest as mentioned by cutler in his books and on the cutler forums on yahoo. The porphyrins test are notorious for false negatives, they degrade quickly if not processed right away, they are sensitive to light, they don't like getting shaken around etc... I'd probably run the test again just to see if it wasn't a sampling error. For example, mine came back all "below range" the first time i did it, and then the second time they came back elevated. The first time was a lab error, or they didn't process it fast enough.
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