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Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
#20493
06/20/07 11:51 AM
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Basically the substance that comes out isnt anything to do with gall or kidney stones...its just w hat happens when you take the actual regime..apparently someone tested it and it produced the same results without anyone ingesting it..
Im so upset as I have always believed and spent so much money on liver flushing.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/20/07 11:56 AM
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"flush" advice, and the lemon/olive oil thing are totally bogus and useless. Take enough olive oil and lemon, and you'll pass curds of oil that quacks will tell you are stones. It's entirely fake. Want proof? If an ultrasound shows gallstones, try those methods, pass all the weird things you want, and ask for another ultrasound (it's an expensive proof, I'll admit: but I know from experience with thousands of gallstone patients what works, what doesn't, what fools the foolable.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/20/07 12:39 PM
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i have read this before, but i did a flush about a year a go after a parasite cleanse. and had loads liver flukes mixed in with the stones and stuff. so im not sure. all i know is it pushed parasite out of my liver. so may be the stones are for real.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/20/07 01:06 PM
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you could constantly do it and it will always produce the same results...
did parasites actually come out with the liver flush though?
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
#20497
06/20/07 01:06 PM
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hulda clarke is hiding away in mexico to avoid lawsuits for scamming people. so it is all fake!!! CANT BELIEVE IT.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
#20498
06/20/07 01:11 PM
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its like witchcraft books are they real? people read and believe them etc..
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/20/07 02:03 PM
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you could constantly do it and it will always produce the same results...
did parasites actually come out with the liver flush though? yes! the first liver flush i had loads. i can say for 100% they were from the liver.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/20/07 02:10 PM
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hulda clarke is definitely not a fake. her techniques and research works! i have used the zapper she designed,and have have great results. she think diseases come from toxins and parasites. which seems to be true.
check out curezone.com
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
#20502
06/20/07 04:16 PM
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ive done quite a few liver flushes and felt amazing afterwards. The best thing was my eyes got better,less blurrey and i will never give up cleansing. I also got rid of my cat allergy. I dont think Hulda clark is in hiding!
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Milk Thistle
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06/20/07 04:26 PM
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Anonymous, I would make sure you're not getting your information from Quackwatch, or some other lying organization like that. They are misinformation fronts for pharmaceutical companies. See: http://www.bolenreport.net/I personally don't know about the mechanisms involved in the liver flush that you are speaking about, however, there are herbal substances that to cause the liver to purge: Milk ThistleHope this helps.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/20/07 05:10 PM
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For me , I find the whole credibility a this thread goes down the drain when everbody's anonymous, some of it sounds like someone with multiple personality disorder disagreeing with theirselves, an I AM inerested in this subject. hi elvis! yeah sorry. i was the one saying hulda clarks is NOT a fake. and that liver flushes work. i keep getting logged out for some reason
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/20/07 10:57 PM
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/23/07 09:34 PM
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I've done several liver flushes last year with Epsom Salts /water and grapefruit/ olive oil (with some black walnut tincture drops added in the mix)
from what I read at Curezone.com, one of the members actually had the stones tested and they were indeed gallstones.
One doesnt have to even have a gallbladder anymore for gallstones to still be found lodged in thier liver- though I still have my gallbladder)
With every liverflush I do, I notice I also pass parasites right before the stones come out. You are entitled to your opinion regarding liver flushes- but I do feel they are genuine- and I do not believe that person you mentioned who tested it and claimed they had the same results without ingesting it.
With every liver flush I did, I got out less and less stones towards the last liver flushes. I got alot of stones out during the first 2 flushes but after doing 4- 7 more, the stones were not as much, because I had passed most of them during the first flushes.
Nevertheless, During ALL the liver flushes, I got out parasites (liver fluke (orange/red tapered slug like fleshy parasites and one or two roundworm). I also noticed an increase in energy the day after the flush.
To me it was worth it, and I plan on doing a maintenance flush this coming year.
Last edited by Boldyloxx; 06/23/07 11:12 PM.
"It is Better to Love than always be right"- Mother Teresa
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/23/07 10:18 PM
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Boldy,
Will you post your liver flush recipe please?
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/23/07 11:06 PM
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surely! http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/ the recipe I use is here: http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.aspDr., Clark may have moved to Mexico, but it doesn't mean she's a quack. Actually, the fact that she moved there only makes me wonder even more about the FDA and the FTC-- and the rights of freedom of speech in the U.S. Dr. Clark was not Jack Kevorkian, where anyone was hurt by her studies . Actually, everyone was helped by them who chose to follow her instructions.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/23/07 11:22 PM
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Bex, if Andy Cutler warned about that, I would be careful. I respect Andy Cutler's advice.
If someone is Very mercury toxic, alot of the mercury ends up in the liver and colon. Maybe a liverflush may push some mercury out of the liver and distribute some iinto the kidneys and colon-- I don't know, but maybe he does.
If I were to do a liver flush while suffering from heavy mercury toxicity, I'd make sure to add some capsules of Algin along with the Grapefruit and olive oil, but still-- It may be wise to hold off on the liver flush til your body is past that level of poisoning.
Many at Curezone even reccomended to liverflush after at least 30 days of parasite cleansing, and a few weeks of colon cleansing.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/24/07 01:05 AM
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Thanks Boldy, that is super.
Any direct links to the kidney rinse and parasite cleanse she recommends?
I have a product called Paragone on the shelf, haven't really used it... well maybe for 4 big days is all but I missed fruit so much I quit. We do have lots of black walnut trees where I live I was going to wait till early August and gather up some half-ripe ones and just use the skin from those later too if I felt the desire. Anybody need black walnut hulls? I could probably make a fortune selling them. I may try that. I could ship walnut in hull for all of you organic food nuts. Our trees are wild and prolific, no pesticides ever. Spring fed. heh.
I might do better with the paragone now, I am not eating as much fruit, mainly fresh veggies right now... summertime.
I am drinking unflitered apple cider vinegar right now... may not proceed fully to the liver cleans but the vinegar is suppose to be good with mercury poisoning, helps your body release it so that's a plus. My kidneys were severely hurt by this poisoning episode. I still get twinges.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/24/07 07:26 AM
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i would'nt do hulda clarks parasite cleanse.she only uses cloves, black walnut hulls,wormwood. this one is by far the best, have tried it myself www.humaworm.com theres also a ask humaworm blog on curezone if you need to ask him any questions.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/24/07 06:44 PM
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i honestly think the key to good health is doing plenty of cleanses just mentioned. I have done quite a few gallbladder flushes with great results, and as Bolylocks says, do a bit of colon and parasite cleansing first. Im in two minds wether to get humaworm or the hulda style parasite cleanse, i think humaworm is cheaper. I think andy cutler disagrees with flushes due to redistribution but they only make me feel better and i am sensitive. I couldnt do without my coffee enemas.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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06/25/07 01:00 PM
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I definitely agree. The humaworm formula looks great, I already eat a good amount of those various items on a regular basis (and have for quite some time) which may explain why I am able to chelate successfully with amalgams still in and niot suffer ferocious side effects.
I saved the page from humaworm with the de-worming ingredient info though, I wasn't aware of all the wonderful anti-parasitic properties of so many things in my garden. Pumpkin seeds are suppose to be good too btw. We always bake up a bunch for snacking on in the fall after making pies.
Cleansing and chelating only make me feel better too so I am not sure about what's up with the re-distribution theories either. I couldn't do without my cilantro and garlic. I didn't eat any for two days now, I am sitting here with a mild headache this morning.. I ate through the first batch in the garden and am waiting for the second batch to be ready... just a few days now. I miss it a lot words are insuffucient..
I must say the liver cleanse photos are a bit scary. I don't see any reason to avoid it just because of a few amalgams though. Looks like the type of thing that might make a person suffer for a few days at first but then should offer great benefits. My view is that everyone is toxic in some form or another, whether it's mercury or antimomy or lead or aluminum or who knows what, so avoiding cleanses because of amalgams is kind of like tunnel vision in my opinion.
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06/25/07 01:25 PM
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btw, my kidneys feel better after a couple days of cider vinegar with water 2-3 time a day.
the aching kidneys are not from chelating, the chelating has helped me a lot. When the dentist poisoned me over the winter my kidneys felt like they were going to explode, literally. I could literally feel them both all swelled up like huge kindey beans in my back. It's one of the main reasons I had to find a doctor.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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10/15/07 02:00 AM
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Yea I guess that would be it... it's on my list for next week or maybe the week after.
Did you feel lousy while doing it?
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10/15/07 10:22 AM
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About 2 years ago,my mother had severe pain &sickness,which turned out to be gallstones,a doctor scheduled her in to have them removed & while she awaited her appointment (a few weeks )my brother who practices chinese medicine&accupuncture,put her on a health regime which included drinking pints of olive oil &lemon juice,lying on her side afterwards,accupunture treatment,& drinking applejuice,not a complete fast,but a little simple food,I am not sure of the quantities & frequencies of these,however she managed to pass most of the stones & the doctor was amazed to see the following scan results & took a note of the regime she had done. No surgery required. I would certainly try this sooner than opt for surgery.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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10/20/07 10:30 PM
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Wow this works wonders.
I spent egads of money on it too, about 1.5 dollars I think, and only because the price of olive oil has skyrocketed.
Picture perfect, just like on the directions page that boldy linked above. There is absolutely no way epsom salts and olive oil created those stones. Nothing weird to report, about 5 to maybe 8 dime size ones, about 2 dozen pea size ones, and egads lots of tiny ones that looked just like bee pollen.
maybe more, that's just a rough estimate because I omitted the strainer part from the directions, let loose, took a peek and flushed every time without getting too enamoured.
I hope they don't clog the septic system. I could actually feel them coming out. My gall bladder seems a tad sore, doesn't hurt, just a tad sore but I guess that's to be expected from a muscle that has never done any work before.
amazing I am going to tell everyone I know about this. It's much safer than national health care and probably a lot more reliable.
Anybody want to wager that the anon poster who started this thread is a doctor that makes big bucks on gall bladder operations?
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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10/21/07 11:38 PM
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SoSwell maybe. I'd like to keep the sos part. You never know.
I did the hulda clark recipe, exactly like on the link boldy posted above... epsom salts and olive oil w/grapefuit juice.
Now all I need is to get rid of this achy hip or kidney or whatever it is but it isn't mercury related it was a kayaking accident about 16 months ago, slammed a rock under a waterfall pretty good. amazing I walked away but it aches pretty good now and then still. Aching pretty good today after that flush. I wonder if I smooshed that kidney or something.
I am going to do it again in about 3 weeks in case anything moved downward and is still in there. I felt a good size one push itself out this morning still, from my liver, hurt like heck for about 2 minutes then was fine... lack of oilive oil to smooth the journey I think.
What I really really need is for Jesus to touch me real real good another time.
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10/22/07 11:37 AM
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no, never really any body aches worth mentioning at all, was definitely the bang on that slippery rock, quite a wallop. Someone told me that injuries in that area can take a good couple years to heal. I broke an ankle once in a different extreme manner and that took a couple years to really heal too. I may have gotten a hairline fracture or something, it only hurts occasionally. I'm sure the mercury poisoning didn't help me though.
HOWEVER, happy to report, I feel absolutely excellent this morning. My liver area feels excellent, my gall bladder area feels excellent... the back kidney area feels excellent, maybe just a tad tender. Where is your appendix I need to look that up, maybe I had something lodged in there.. I ate a bit more olive oil and castor oil last evening to help ease any leftovers out and i do believe the Lord helped me with it tooo!. Felt real warm there early early this morning and then all the achy was gone. I'm good to go!
My head feels really really good. My toes feel great. I have two people waiting for a printout of the hulda clark liver cleanse recipe.
I'm really not a dieter, trying to get me to stick to anything rigid far as that goes is useless. I have been really really hungry since yesterday, I take that as a really good sign because I lost about 15 much needed pounds with the mercury ordeal.
I eat lots of garlic and potatoes though, both high sulfer foods. I am trying to get away from too many supplements at this point. Sounds dreadful I know but I am more interested in ice cream right now. I bought a papaya at the store though!
my head feels amazing good. And my neck too.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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10/22/07 12:45 PM
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well i'll pass on the ice cream I guess I had some vicchysoise in the fridge, probably high sulpher too, from our own garden.
The problem for me with taking too many supplemenmts (it's good when you are real sick) but under normal conditions i don't get as hungry and start losing weight when I need to gain weight.
Our food is pretty good, we eat about 50% from the garden (canned all sorts of stuff for the winter and there are lots of squashes that have to be used up) and about 50% from the grocery. I still have egads of peppers in the veggie drawer even. i wash them down with a light H2O2 rinse and they keep for about two months, really, crisp as the day I picked them.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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10/23/07 02:05 PM
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You know what, I think I have zillions of stones. Maybe that's why my side gets achy like that. I felt some move out just a little bit earlier too. I had to take some more castor oil last evening, that helped a lot but I could see more stones this morning. Maybe I have a couple stuck in there somewhere or something. Any other advice? Because I need to wait a couple weeks before I do another big cleanse and in the meantime I can feel them moving along still but they hurt like heck sometimes trying to move out without the olive oil routine. I started an avalanche or something or else there are just a few big ones that are moving too slowly. Maybe I should just do the castor oil every evening for a few days?.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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10/23/07 03:36 PM
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The liver flush is one of the strongest body cleansing you can do. It puts a real strain on the liver, which I why some, (andy cutler), recommend people with mercury issues do not liver flush, because it put the already stressed liver under serious stress. My lower back also used to hurt when i did them, which I took to be my kidney under stress too. They say you need to get out minimum 2,000 stones to be clear. The only way to know if u clear of stones is to flush 3 times with zero stones. Wait minimum 2 weeks between flushes. Maybe try an Epsom salt flush? Bowel cleanse? Otherwise the curezone liver flush support forum is very big and plenty of cool people will know what to do. http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=447Stand firm SOS
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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10/23/07 04:22 PM
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I actually don't feel as though I have a major mercury problem anymore. I still have a few amalgams but they are staying to the grave with me. In general, I feel great. The liver cleanse was great, just something going on there off and on.
The castor oil relieves the lower back ache after a parasite cleans or whatever btw, for me anyway. Moves it on out overnight. Give yourself a tad of extra time in the morn for the bathroom...
It's funny, I posted that a couple hours ago and five minutes later it was gone again. I really think it's just stones moving through. just a tad achy, nothing major. Maybe I ate too soon afterward. I was starving after not eating for almost 18 hours.
2 weeks then. I guess I am just a bit in shock over what's coming out in my bm's. I'll get over it. I feel wonderful really though, got a lot of work done today and only slept a few hours last night because i was working all night and I am not even tired..
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10/24/07 12:27 AM
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found it, thanks, appreciate it!
sounds yummy I love ginger.
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10/24/07 09:22 AM
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hi skieslimit : It depends how toxic you are ,if some one that is highly toxic tries a the big liver cleanse ,they may feel crappy for a week or so ,that is why I chose to do the castor oil packs for a couple of months first, not only that ,but casteroil packs cleanse the lymph system and kidneys as well , the castor oil packs will slowly detox the liver without to big of a shock to the system it depends how you feel before a cleanse if you feel like your body is strong enough to handle it than go for it , I chose the slower route ,I was pretty toxic at the time ,normaly if you are not to toxic you may feel minor weakness the next day or two ,just depends on how much toxins are pulled out of the liver from the cleanse ( good luck )
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10/24/07 02:37 PM
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The full cleanse was havoc on my system for a few days sky, and i am feeling pretty good to begin with. Though I don't know, if you are already feeling bad it probably won't make you feel that much worse and considering how good you feel after it regardless of the hassle of doing it...
You really really do need to do a parasite cleanse first. The black walnut hull is quick and effective. Papaya seeds kill parasites too, munch 'em up with the fruit.
Mikey, don't you think just eating some castor oil now and then would be more effective than the external pack? I am going to eat a couple tablespoons once a week for a while I think. I feel real good the day after that. Eating castor oil is suppose to help get rid of parasites too. Lots of options there.
No achy side today, a tad tender there only.. the kayaking incident still acting up and probably taking extra long to heal completely due to the mercury incident. That thing had me on my knees screaming in agony originally, it was so painful sometimes, so it is lots better.
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I don't have any knowledge of taking caster oil internaly ,,but if it works for you that is great , you may have discovered another type of treatment that can help other people , I am only aware of the castor oil packs and my own reaction to them ,I started using them because of my reaction to many other natural treatments that had a moderatly bad reaction afterwards , I still can't take any suppliments in the day time only in the evening that is when my body let me do so with out feeling bad afterwards , I still don't understand why ,but just glad to be able to take them. after about 15 min with casteroil packs I can feel the castor oil working its way into my body doing its cleansing thing , but do not feel the positive effects untill the next day , I am doing a caster oil pack 3 times a week for now , still having mecury detox sysmtoms ,but the cleanses help make detox more tolerable , it is very important to keep the pathways open to allow the toxins to exit the body much easier , I will try the walnut hull next week to kill the parasites I have also been taking olive leaf extract for the past two months , it is supposed to help with parasites also , don't want to start any thing else this week ,got front row tickets to john mellencamp next week , don't want to chance feeling bad for the concert
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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yea, pretty fun, a top of the list item. can be dangerous if the water is fast, pretty wild sport.
You know... I am amazed still at how much more balanced I feel after that cleanse. I think really it may be one of the best things I have ever done for myself. I started it late last Fri, set the alarm and did the epsom salts through the night (cannot afford to have diarhea on a sunday) but by Sunday I was noticing how good I felt, my head seemed so clear... I had been getting vague indications of possible headaches coming on for the past few weeks, never really got one which is good because I get migraines when they get full blown and they always last 3 days or so (was eating feverfew to keep it down, eating my cilantro pesto too which helps that). I mean when I get a headache I get a headache, 3 days of intense pain and then the rest of the week to recover. But anyway, not a tad of the slight head pain at all so far this week and it's almost Thursday... to me that is amazing. I did real well all summer because of the cilantro pesto but now I have been buying it from the store and truly, it's pretty weak, doesn't compare to my fresh picked homegrown. on a scale of 1-10, about a 3.5, cannot give it a full 4.
I think eating some papaya everyday is a good follow up to that cleanse btw, eating some of the seeds with it too to help digestion. My side stopped aching completely finally... just several hours on that but it's hopeful...
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[Re: Bex]
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So I dont know what to think. Perhaps it's worth a try, but I know Andy Cutler does not think it's wise to do with mercury toxicity. maybe ok for other illnesses, but there seems to be a problem when its done with mercury poisoning (not sure why, I'll try and find that out).
Hulda Clarke herself also warns about liver cleanses during mercury toxicity, if i don't remember incorectly. Anyway, she says its most important to do a parasite cleanse first, then a kidney cleanse, and THEN a liver cleanse.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit o
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surely! http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/ the recipe I use is here: http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.aspDr., Clark may have moved to Mexico, but it doesn't mean she's a quack. Actually, the fact that she moved there only makes me wonder even more about the FDA and the FTC-- and the rights of freedom of speech in the U.S. Dr. Clark was not Jack Kevorkian, where anyone was hurt by her studies . Actually, everyone was helped by them who chose to follow her instructions. Right!! Exacto! GOV Conspiracy? ABSOLUTELY! They'we shut up good people with supposedly working cancer cures over the decades too!
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit o
[Re: JK98]
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05/26/09 12:39 AM
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Using epsom salt internally can be dangerous. Some people have even died from using too much. Great care must be taken if one uses anything more than a small dosage of epsom salt internally. I fully agree, I tried it for a week with only a pinch a few times a day and felt so dehydrated one day and dizzy etc.! I would not use that there more than once a week if even that. Like I said all I USED was a PINCH a time or two a day, and that was too much.
In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit o
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05/26/09 07:26 AM
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My herbal practitioner has her own method of liver flush. It lasts 5 days. On days one and 5 you eliminate all animal products. On the 3 days in the middle you take fruit and vegetable juices only. In the morning you prepare a "flush drink" with olive oil, ginger, orange juice and a few other things -- it tastes lovely. You also drink detox tea, and she gave me a mixture of herbal tinctures to take as well.
I got on with it very well and never felt hungry, though a little strange at times. I tried fasting since then and was about ready to pass out from fatigue and hunger, couldn't get through a day. This was a lovely and gentle way of cleansing the liver and I still took all my vitamins (though I didn't chelate).
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit o
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We all need magnesium , but it can cause problems if you overdose on it by epsom saltsw.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit o
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You were not about to pass out because of fatigue or hunger on your fast . You are obviously very toxic and this is why you had such a bad reaction to fasting .This shows that you need to fast.
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Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: Anonymous]
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11/14/09 12:12 PM
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Hello, I diagnosed as mercury poisoning by Andy Cutler and tried the Hulda Clark detox just for 1 day with 1 epsom salt tablespoon. It was 1.5-2 months after my last 2 amalgam removal+infusion. I think that since then I have strong headaches,with nausea. Is anybody knows if most of the chances are that it came from the materials the liver threw to the body or it can derives from remained stones in the bile and more important- what can I do if I already have the symptoms?
And another subject- Does somebody here know if through the fasting process mercury and other heavy metals go out from the body and if it's proved? does someone with mercury poisoning or suspicion to this try to fast (ajust after the removal of all the amalgam)?
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: a desperate woma]
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11/14/09 08:28 PM
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HI there,
I'm sorry for what you have experienced. I have do not have the answers to what you have gone through with the epsom salts, only "ideas" but I have read warnings regarding their oral use before and personally I would never use them that way, but rather put them in my bath water instead.
I would imagine they have shunted toxins into worse areas perhaps and has made you very toxic, hence the headaches and nausea (which can be liver poisoning). I had something similar happen after being prescribed large dose vitamin D (50,000 IU). I was to take this for 5 days, then level off to taking one dose per week. It made me so ill, that I stopped it after the 5 days. It took me 2 and a half months to notice recovery. I have experienced headaches, nausea and other symptoms all that time! My system was unable to eliminate the excess vitamin D and I was poisoned by it. That is one explanation anyway. One doctor said that I wasn't metabolising properly, hence the build up.
I would suggest that you support your liver perhaps with a good liver herbal combination. Not "too" strong dosage, because even that can create too much "detox" symptoms (or retox). Just get some support. Drink good cleansing herbal teas and perhaps lemon juice added to warm water. Raw foods in fruits and vegetables are also good liver cleansing foods. But again, can also set off detox reactions, so just take it easy at first if you are not used to consuming raw foods much. Eliminating sugar/gluten/yeast from the diet can be very helpful in reducing overall toxic load and excess yeast levels, which often result from mercury poisoning or other immune conditions.
Do not fast with mercury poisoning. This has been warned against by more than one professional. If anything consuming good protein foods and good fats is recommended - eggs, meats, butter etc. These are protective and supportive apparently. You can help release some toxins and heavy metals by a good healthy diet, regular moderate exercise (walking/treadmill) and if you can cope, hot baths to encourage sweating also (saunas even better). But never go overboard. Only to aid the elimination of toxins, not overwhelm yourself. I cannot handle hot baths, but I can handle moderate walking.
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: Bex]
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11/15/09 01:45 PM
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Hi, thanks a lot for your help. I have some quesions about your response..first I want to know if your opinions and suggestions are your guesses or you checked it seriously.
"I would imagine they have shunted toxins into worse areas perhaps"- do you mean that the epson salt can mobilize it or you meant just like I wrote- that the liver threw materials to the bloodsrream and then the materials entered the worse areas?
"a good liver herbal combination,cleansing herbal teas"-I think that maybe if the reason for my symptoms derive from the materials the liver transfer to the body it can be a problem to take something that cause the liver to detox,maybe "support the liver means also to help him detox and maybe my liver now is full of toxins and even if it's natural,all those herbal and teas are more concentrate than just raw food. That's why I need to know what is the reason for my symptoms after the hulda detox..
racheli
"Do not fast with mercury poisoning. This has been warned against by more than one professional"- did you also mean to fast with vegtable juices? who are the professionals because there are also those who thinks mercury can get out from the body by fasting.
"hot baths to encourage sweating also (saunas even better). But never go overboard"- as far as I know Andy Cutler is against sauna in mercury poison because the mercury can mobilize from place to place. he wrote that people got worse from this.
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: a desperate woma]
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11/15/09 11:15 PM
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Forget these liver flushes, use Lecithin, Olive Oil (First pressed), a half a lemon in water daily and see how you do over a period of 6 months. You can flush your liver for what a day doing the liver flush? This will probably help you stay clean of stones over time and give you liver healthy by increasing bile.
Dandelion or Milk Thistle might help as well, keep it simple though and use each as you wish (Preferablly daily).
In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: Sean]
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11/16/09 01:37 AM
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Worse from sauna is a blank lie! I'm ok today thanks to saunas!! Cutler ain't allknowing god! But yes, there is redistribution, sure.... at first they can be moderate bad, chest stiffness.. etc... but after 4-5 days, you're ok again... However after 15-20 saunas... 1-2 pr 14 days or so... then there ain't much redistribution no more, atleast with me. I'm as good as new again thanks to saunas over the last year! I thought saunas to be the best way to go for me, as i saw it as a milder alternative to dmsa, and btw as i also still got one amalgam and some patches left, i aimed for saunas and not dmsa... yet?!..... my plan has worked..... i have lovered my body and brain mercury with saunas, no matter what some people claim that brain merc can only be ridden of with ala or such..... b.s...... So i testify that saunas are Grrrrrrrrreat! just don't overdo em, as i allmost crashed once..... mineral fatigue i think.... Anyway...... about the hulda liver flush..... in my mind, you might have started too early... fast (quick / speed) and mercury doesnt like each others very well..... And besides, a liver cleanse ain't reccomended for high toxic mercury cases anyway.. not yet that is, until you have lovered your merc burden.... For body pains btw... get red sour cherries or juice, and or pineapple which has bromelin in it.... great for stiff feet after mercury r.a.p.e after drillout! Hmmm.. i remeber way back, last year at this time..... i was as desperate as you sound... asking, reading, everything, searhing the net, whatever.... everything... Now... today...... not 100% cured no, but i am enjoying life bigtime, body aches are gone, only bone crackling left.... and my feet, but they too are getting better, psoriassis and nail fungus is letting go too.... Why? Garlic, chili peppers, saunas, asian toilet style (squatting), less food additives, fruit juices (cherry, blueberry, cranberries, pineapple), good faith!, etc...... It's incredible really that i experience 99.5% of my time without headaches.... I'm scratching my head on that one, but it is a good thing! Hope you get better soon! Btw... first parasite cleanse, then the kidneys (cranberries can help with that), THEN the liver, but not with a high body burden of merc just yet.... I read so some places on the net infact....
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: BluSky]
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11/16/09 01:50 AM
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SquattingDuck on this board is god for sharing that with us! Hugs Duck!
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: findthetruth]
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11/18/09 08:15 AM
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HELLO, THANKS A LOT for your help..I have already learned new things...about the sauna debate- I don't think Andy is alknowing god but he has knowledge+experience with a lot of poeple..and he wrote that people with mercury problem who do saunas had many problems after that-headeache,depression..I guess there's a difference between the amount of mercury and the functionings of the body between people.How much time you spent in the sauna every time? Does the sauna have to built from specific materials (I understood there can be a problem with some of the materials there. How did you get to the conclusion that people have to do first the parasite cleanse and how do you reccomend to do it? Dandalion q milk thistle - if they support the liverit hasn't have to cause the liver to cleanse himself? and did you choose other ways instead of the dmsa,ala.. for the safetly of other attitudes or for other reasons?
Does anyone knows about any oxygen supplement or other way oxygen can exsists for helping the problem or the symptoms? I read about people that it helped them but I wonder how it connects to the oxydent/oxydative process and the antioxydents that can help the body cause maybe there is a contradiction and the oxygen only help for the short time period?
To "findthetruth"- Mercury poisoning is a situation that mercury and probably other heavy metals entered the body (from the gaz of the amalgam fillings, water...) and interfere to the body process. it's hard to measure it by blood tests or urine tests but there are other ways. if someone have this problem he probably have also problems with other "strange" materials cause it connects to the liver functions.You can read more in this forum when you entered to the forum. If you want that Andy diagnoze you or build for you a treatment you can write to him and ask. His attitude is ciletion (dmsa, ala...) and supplements/drugs.
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: a desperate woma]
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11/18/09 09:02 AM
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Andy has a lot of knowledge yes, no doubt about that. Headaches from the sauna, yes... at first, but only marginal, and mostly if you overdo your session. If headache starts to develope, then end the session.. or take a break in a cold to lukewarm shower for 5-15 minutes, whatever... There is diffrence and variations from person to person, yes. clearly. I spend about 1.5hrs to 2hrs, but last time i went i did 2hrs but could tollerate 3, but i was getting bored... Ofcourse i don't stay in for such a long time in one go.. I do small go's for 4-8 minutes, then shower for 5, and reenter the sauna again, does that for 4-5 times or so then drinks half a liter of water, and takes a break for 10 minutes or so, then sauna more.. until the 1-1.5 or 2hrs has gone, ofcourse, the total time of 2hrs is not a nailed number, but as long as you feel is safe for you.... you will know, headache etc...... or simply by the feeling that you have had enough for the day.... Unpoisonous materials.... thats a luxury i cant be bothered with when doing sauna in public, but it IS in my mind... atleast it was in my mind.... My mind today, the gain is higher (sweat) than the re-uptake of poison from the materials in the sauna... so...... can't be too picky, because then one cant get nothing done.... Same with food.... processed food.... i know EVERYTHING is poisonous, but i have to eat, after all.... so i marginalise it.... not dropping it fully... same with sauna materials...... i choose not to think about it no more.... especially as the saunas help as much as they do... for me.. The conclusion about the sequence for parasite cleanse, kidneys and liver... Read the Hulda book, The cure for all diseases! And read from other sources on the net about Hulda's methods and ways... DMSA scares the cra....p out of me.... from what i have read, to be honest! and so does ala, also cillantro and chlorella... I got burnt by chlorella badly a year ago.... am well today.... thanks to saunas... and more... cillantro however... i tried 3mnts ago... got back my back pain after just a little cillantro in soup, got rid of it again with more sauna later... Oxygen.... i know nothing about that.... Mercury is not hard to meassure.... if the established medical profession really wanted to.... it wouldn't take a long time for them to pull a method out of their hats to meassure merc in a satisfying way! I'm sure of that...... corrupt medical establishment, saying its psycho somatic and anxst....... my god... how much i hate THEM...... and avoid them! My attitude btw... is all natural... atleast that is for now... for me.... What comes later i cant tell now... Get your self a copy of the Hulda books! They are as gold worth as Andy's book!
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: BluSky]
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11/18/09 09:14 AM
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About the cleanse sequence.... I think it's because a liver cleanse burdens the body, and the body needs to be up to it.... to be up to it, the body has to have clean kidneys, but to clean the kidnes also burdens the body, and to be up to that you have to get rid of parasites first.. It's like building your strenght up, step by step before going for the big one.. you see? Atleast that is how i understood the Hulda book.. and it is only logical... Hulda also warns about her cleanses in her book if you're still highly mercury toxic... Step 1... rid mercury, 2. parasites, 3. clean kidneys, 4. liver... etc.... 5... avoid the western world's toxic ways (my own). Parasites is a load on immunity (the system)... when later cleaning out the liver you need that immunity and a body that is up to the "overload" that the cleanse may give you..... so building your self up first is the way.... That is atleast what i have read... or else i would have started those cures with my self by now.... I'm building my self up with saunas.... for now... and i also have one amalgam left.. so that is my only safe option... how i see it anyway..
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: BluSky]
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11/18/09 09:16 AM
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Step 6... Live happily ever after!
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: BluSky]
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11/18/09 09:19 AM
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I started with sauna sessions for half an hour to one hour at first, one year ago... btw..
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: BluSky]
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I remember i freaked out the first time after the amalgam removal when going to the sauna.... i drove back home before buying the ticket to sauna.. was affraid of possible reactions.... the next time i drove there i got in and did a session.... felt like God afterwards... clean in body / head and soul.... was great.... after that the fear to sauna was gone.... The reason i feared was, if it hadn't gone enough time after the drillout of the amalgams for safe mercury detox by provoked sweat or intervention with the merc.... I never regret it a second as my plan has worked as planned, now about one year later... Careful does it... always.... but there comes a time when one "must" jump into whatever one wants to, but is sceptical about, and just do it... hope for the best... try all kinds of cures and methods..... but as i say... careful always does it.... that is your own protective subconscience talking, and your own higher soul.... whatever... Be safe! You are on the right tracks i would say.... searching for answers shows that you are a better soul than your fellow tv slave "neighbours".... Cheers..
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: BluSky]
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If i judge people..... YES I DO... nothing is more important to me than fellow intelligent souls, that is not maligant as the worlds "leaders" btw... As for stupid people. those who doesn't take the search in their own hands, blindly trusts their family doctor, taking tamiflu, etc.... accepting prozak from their psychiatrist quack, etc.... Never liked such people... Ofcourse.. many on this board has been there.... especially regarding neuroleptics, but in my mind they are as good as gold today, as they too have awakened to the truth! Never too late... Respect to all thinkers and tryers! Disrespect to satans right hands...... (the passive, and dumb, out there) Just had to say it...... Respect to all who searches for answers! Have a great day!
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: gdawson6]
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11/19/09 05:39 AM
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Thanks a million Gdawson! I have been thinking alot about trying the IR sauna for some time now, they say it is really good for rheumatism amongst other things, however i don't even have any diagnose for anything, but i have been thinking of using the IR sauna to reach my possible bone ligament mercury to get rid of the bone crackling, but have been too scared and sceptical about the IR sauna to dare to try it in fear of possible reactions as the IR penetrates deeper into the body and thereby possibly releasing too much deep stored mercury at once.... so... maybe later at some time.... maybe i'll use the IR as ALA and the classic sauna as DMSA if you follow my thought.... Anyhow, thanks a million for the warning, i didn't know. Classic steam sauna is great tough... I'm also sceptical on ir as beein a new technology, have always been.. About that last amalgam and the dental cheats and patches (tooth tattos), yes, but not quite yet.... I'm getting stronger each day, but i want to get even stronger than i am now before i even think about touching that beast of a filling! Last drillouts ruined my life for over half a year, but i AM ok today, not fully healed, but mostly, however when this sucker comes out, it will for certain be an extraction! I don't recomend drilling into amalgams for anyone!!! I hope i will react positive to removing it when that time comes, however last time i drilled, it had consequences, but they were fixable over time with the right effort. I drilled back then with full safeties, but the man was a cheat and a FREEMASON, i found out later... 8th degree even... Eventually all my teeth has to come out.... it's dentures for me...... later... Am going to see if i can get hold of Hulda style dentures when that time comes... as there are mercury in the red dye in common dentures... The damage done to us is really inpriceable.. Btw... i do not condemn Andy, i just don't agree with everything he says, however i am greatful to have access to the fruits of Andy's work, most of it is the good stuff, well correction, proably near everything, maybe, however, Andy is overcareful in his statements and with his warnings.... i can understand that, but he should atleast have mentioned that he is overcareful here and there in his texts, so that others can choose to take it with a pinch of salt now and then..... But thats my oppinion..... Thanks Gdawson!
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: findthetruth]
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He cheated yes, when he drilled out my filling nr 2, he was about to fill it with composite when i insisted to see in his mirror, and there were still amalgam left that he was about to fill in and hide with plastics... i insisted for about 8 times to further drill it out, and he drilled but there were stil a little amalgam left after my 8th demand to drill it all out, he then got angry and said, do you not appreciate my work?.. and i gave in..... i sholdnt have, but the little amalgam piece is only tiny.. i can see it in the middle of the plastics today... and for the first two months after that, my mouth tasted of strong mercury vapour for some time afterwards..... it doesnt smoke now i belive.... no sour amalgam taste now...
But i DID speak bad of freemasons while in his dentist chair, but i didn't know back then that he himself was a freemason.... I said... like... damn those masons for deliberately poisoning us... they should get a taste of their own medicine i said... he didn't say anything, but it is possible he was pissed inside of himeself....
I dont know.... but i later found out that he was a mason because in my country one of our main tv stations published the freemason matricle on their websites...
Btw.. i wouldn't be too paranoid about that thermometer, that is a normal thing to have anyway... but the mercury stored at home.... well thats a suspicion... unless he is a dentist or something....
I do not know about the masons really...... they certainly have all the blames in the conspiracy circles....
I also know people who are masons btw.... I'm infact shocked to have learned that the sons of some masons or rosecrusians have amalgams in the mouths..... didn't those masons know better than to poison their own families?.... maybe the masons ARE clean?? i don't know... gets one to wonder really....
Anyway... i used nosemask with oxygen and rubberdam and extra suction and he said that he had a ioniser in the room too, but he never mentioned anything about post detox to me.... i found that suspicious as he was supposed to be a mercury removal specialist and also had most safeties in place....
Half hearted huggins follower i would say... too many of those....
I don't know if he deliberately poisoned me, but i have read my share of conspiracy stuff on the net enough to be suspicious....
Anyway.. the guy is an 8th degree mason, "high illuminated solomons brother" is the title of that degree.... something like that...
But the guy did cheat... he denied at all cost that there was still amalgam present in my mouth.... but there were....
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: BluSky]
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11/19/09 02:17 PM
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Btw.. those 8 drills i demanded after the main drillout was performed after he had removed the rubberdam, instead of placing a new rubberdam, he just drilled into the leftovers without a dam... so it is possible i was poisoned more than nessecary from that.....
It may not matter today as i have detoxed so much with saunas and am as ok as i am today.... but my bones do crackle.... and that seems though to remove even wtih the sauna... we'll see....
What counts is that i am as ok as i am today......
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Re: Hulda clack detox - help
[Re: BluSky]
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11/20/09 12:27 AM
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Sean, off topic in this thread, but how goes your squatting? have you kept up doing it too? I haven't sat on the throne for over four months now... never will again probably, squatting really is the BASE for all detox! I hardly ever sit anymore, I get more out it seems! I know it is the base for detox, but so is cleaning out that colon over time, if you can get all that gunk out there that Parasites and Candida feed on and squat then you are ON YOUR WAY! It will take time though (Look up a supplment called lower bowel balance, great stuff). Make sure you take the kidney and liver cleansing herbs too, Olive Oil will also work to clean your liver and your bowels out. Lemons in water are great too, enjoy!
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit o
[Re: BluSky]
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07/05/11 05:58 AM
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Hi everyone, just to reinforce the case that the Hulda Clark liver cleanse is fake.i recently tried the liver cleanse and i was over the moon at the amount of so called gallstones that were removed. i kept 2 of the so called gallstones,and left them outside in the sun to show my wife later that day.when i went back to them 4-5 hours later,the sun had melted these gallstones! all that was left was an epson salt casing,and a pool of olive oil.
I don't feel Hulda has intentionally duped people, as all she wants is to promote health and healthy living,and only wants the best for people,a genuine mistake ? To say that she has done a moonlight to mexico is a bit absurd,it's hardly the crime of the century anyway, i do have more energy since the detox,so it must have done some good
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit o
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08/29/11 12:15 PM
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Can you believe it? This liver flushing has been done thousands of times the world over and still it's not definitive whether they are actual gall stones or not. REALLY?
Theres so many shady stories surrounding hulda clark. It's best someone researches both sides before deciding whether to follow her protocol.
Her credentials - PhD in crab physiology gained in 1958 - Mail-order degree in Naturopathy
And 3 of her books are titled "The Cure for All Diseases," "The Cure for HIV and AIDS" and "The Cure for All Advanced Cancers." That's funny.....
I pulled this from wiki: In 1993, while Clark lived and practiced in Indiana, a former patient complained to the Indiana attorney general. An investigator for the Indiana Department of Health and a deputy attorney general visited her office incognito as part of a sting operation. Clark proceeded to test the investigator and "told him he had the HIV virus [sic], but said that he did not have cancer." She told the investigator that she could cure his HIV in 3 minutes, but that he would "get it back" unless he committed to returning for six more appointments. She then ordered blood tests from a laboratory. Upon learning of the undercover investigators' status, Clark stated that everything she had told them had been a "mistake". Two days later she had vacated the premises and disappeared.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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07/21/14 07:17 AM
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I know this is an old topic, but I feel I should make some comments. I have done 14 liver/gallbladder flushes.
1. Every flush is different. Some flushes produce hundreds of green and/or beige stones, while some flushes produce nothing. If the stones are formed from olive oil and you ingest the same amount of oil each time, one would expect roughly the same results. 2. Parasites (specifically, liver flukes) were mixed in with the stones during my first seven flushes. There are many pictures of liver flukes, both from humans and animals, on the Internet, and so there can be no doubt as to what I expelled. 3. While these stones are sitting in the colon, waiting to be released into the toilet, you are weak and lethargic and even sickly. But as soon as they are flushed with a colonic or an enema, you feel 100% better. This tells me that the stones are highly toxic and are not simply olive oil. If you cut a stone open, you will often find a foul-smelling greenish black liquid or semi-liquid. 4. If you dye the oil/lemon juice mixture with charcoal or food coloring, you get the same green and/or beige stones. 5. You always feel better - more energized - two days after the flush. The more flushes that you do, the more your health seems to improve. Remember the old adage: "You can't argue with success." 6. The stones that "melt in the sun" are from the liver. They are mostly cholesterol. That is why they melt. The hard calcified stones come from the gallbladder. The latter can be seen via ultrasound. The former can not.
As for Hulda Clark, she was persecuted for getting people well, like Harry Hoxsey (such a very sad story), Stanislaw Burzynski, Rene Caisse (from Canada) and Max Gerson, to name a few. As soon as you become a threat to the pharmaceutical evil-empire, which is protected by the government, you are either shut down, or imprisoned, or forced to leave the country. That's why there are so many cancer clinics in Mexico. They can legally do there what is forbidden in the U.S. - and they are actually getting people well. But you will never hear that from the U.S. media.
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
[Re: Riot Earp]
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07/21/14 10:02 AM
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I know this is an old topic, but I feel I should make some comments. I have done 14 liver/gallbladder flushes.
1. Every flush is different. Some flushes produce hundreds of green and/or beige stones, while some flushes produce nothing. If the stones are formed from olive oil and you ingest the same amount of oil each time, one would expect roughly the same results. 2. Parasites (specifically, liver flukes) were mixed in with the stones during my first seven flushes. There are many pictures of liver flukes, both from humans and animals, on the Internet, and so there can be no doubt as to what I expelled. 3. While these stones are sitting in the colon, waiting to be released into the toilet, you are weak and lethargic and even sickly. But as soon as they are flushed with a colonic or an enema, you feel 100% better. 4. If you dye the oil/lemon juice mixture with charcoal or food coloring, you get the same green and/or beige stones. 5. You always feel better - more energized - two days after the flush. 6. The stones that "melt in the sun" are from the liver. They are mostly cholesterol.
As for Hulda Clark, she was persecuted for getting people well, like Harry Hoxsey (such a very sad story), Stanislaw Burzynski, Rene Caisse (from Canada) and Max Gerson, to name a few. As soon as you become a threat to the pharmaceutical evil-empire, which is protected by the government, you are either shut down, or imprisoned, or forced to leave the country. Greetings Riot Earp, Thank you for your comments regarding the liver/gallbladder flushings. // Those are good reports, and the fact that the FDA are shutting down 'those' that help us is 'non-stop'. They find out something works, THEN immediately that want to make it available only by prescription, while these are all natural products. Now, I have read several online topics, and this one seems to be the one that speaks mainly to the Mercury Detox, for amalgam fillings. The reason this 'Mercury Detox/Amalgam Fillings' forum is so popular. So......here are my findings.---------------- --Mercury-detox-protocol --WARNING: Any heavy metal program should be done under the close supervision of a medical professional. This post is not intended to be taken as medical advice, it is simply a recount of the protocol that I used in my own personal heavy metal detoxification. I wanted to avoid mercury toxicity at all costs. On with the program… After doing my homework on Amalgam fillings, I decided that I wanted to have them removed. However, if you do not have them removed properly by someone who knows how to protect you from the mercury, there can be adverse health consequences. Some people have suffered serious ills after having their fillings removed from the high level of mercury they were exposed to during the removal causing mercury toxicity. I did not want this to happen to me, so I began to research yet again. How did I personally prepare for the removal? Glad you asked! Here is what I did: gallbladder and liver cleanse (once per month) to amp up the livers detoxifying abilities coffee enemas (daily), again to help my liver, as well as, to get my colon in good working order to eliminate toxins. Drank lots of water to help keep the kidneys up to par what I ate: a nutrient dense diet filled with lots of organic vegetables, properly sourced grass-fed and pastured meats, pastured eggs, organic raw milk/kefir/yogurt, homemade kombucha, small amounts of fruit, healthy fats (coconut oil, avocado, grass-fed butter, ghee) and fermented veggies what I did NOT eat: pasteurized dairy, processed foods (anything in a box), grains, legumes, sugar, large amounts of fruit, large amounts of nuts, processed oils (corn oil, soybean oil, canola oil), juice or soda. I made sure to take a high quality whole-food vitamin to keep my body nourished I continued taking my daily fermented cod liver oil, increasing the dose slightly before my dental appointment The day before the procedure I consumed my usual healthy diet and doubled up on the dose of my cod liver oil. The morning of I did not take any of my vitamins because vitamin C can adversely react with anesthetic (think waking up during surgery!!!). I also took chlorella and activated charcoal pills right before going into the dental office. Immediately after the procedure I took additional activated charcoal, a zinc chelating pill, more chlorella, For dinner that night I made a liver detox smoothie. I went to bed early. Here is why I chose the supplements that I took to chelate: *Activated Charcoal: it absorbs metals like mercury and other heavy metals so that they can be passed out of the body. The charcoal can be consumed orally for effective treatment of heavy metal poisoning. Our bodies do not digest or absorb activated charcoal so it is not possible to overdose on activated charcoal when it is consumed. *Chlorella: I took chlorella when I was pregnant with my children to protect them from any mercury in my system from my fillings. You have to make sure that it is “broken cell wall” chlorella because the key to its detoxing abilities lies within the indigestible membrane. A typical dose of chlorella for heavy metal detox is about 20 – 30 grams per day. ----------------- The website I thought most advantageous,...... < http://www.realfoodrn.com/mercury-toxicity-amalgam-filling-removal/> - Some of our customers/friends/posters have commented on several of the ones mentioned that caused harmful side-effects, which I have left out. You can still go to the website, and decide for yourself. The most recent one is the Benzoite clay bath. (bad report). You can scroll back. // All of our bodies are made differently, of course, so what works for one may not help another, or even cause bad side-effects. As this person stated, "BE SURE TO HAVE A QUALIFIED DENTAL ASSOCIATION DO THIS PROCEDURE....REMOVE THE MERCURY/AMALGAM, THEN REPLACE WITH A COMPOSITE CEMENT TYPE OF FILLING. ~~ Thank you!
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
[Re: Riot Earp]
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10/26/15 02:02 PM
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Hi everyone! To complete this topic about liver flushing, I recently discovered a website called iraisemyhealth.info, created by a man who experienced lots of liver cleansings. He wanted to share his results and posted pictures and videos about the liver cleanse and the intestinal cleansing. Many testimonials are interesting to read as well. Regards
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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10/27/15 09:43 AM
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Hi everyone! To complete this topic about liver flushing, I recently discovered a website called iraisemyhealth.info, created by a man who experienced lots of liver cleansings. He wanted to share his results and posted pictures and videos about the liver cleanse and the intestinal cleansing. Many testimonials are interesting to read as well. Regards Thank you JnX, I did go to the website you mentioned. I will post the link here so others can visit, if they wish at their discretion. < http://www.iraisemyhealth.info/index.html>
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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02/19/16 09:56 AM
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My story. As I was treating kidneys. You got sore liver and kidneys? Got kidney or liver stones? Need to know how to get rid of it? https://youtu.be/GV8GJl-t_Rshttps://youtu.be/QGsM0fqOAeAHi. My site is dedicated to connective tissue diseases. www.thehumangenomeplus.comI got useful videos there. I share how I managed to cope with my illnesses on my own. I also got information about alternative medicine preparations
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Re: Liver flushing is all fake...Its the mixture of epsom salts with not eating and the grapefruit or lemon..
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03/07/16 01:50 AM
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Uncertain about precisely what you're seeking, before getting any medicine or herbs you should consult with a doctor. To learn more or to educate yourself you can go through some good websites like PositiveMed etc ... also you will get a totally free e-book on liver cleanse here Liver Cleanse http://www.livercleansetruth.com/
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