News you won't see in controlled mainstream media.

Had 3 amalgams out this Wednesday with mercury free dentist, rubber dam & oxygen. I did not swallow anything, nor did any mercury pop out onto my face or cloths and the nurse with the suction hose did not fall sleep in the job. As far as I could tell everything went like clockwork. Dentist was very good and I would recommend him. However the aftereffects where rather …… exciting;

That evening I was completely spaced out/detached and sat staring at nothing all evening. Emotionally I was all over the place. Was rather unpleasant.

Next day I was not as bad, but still nowhere near my normal self. My emotions where still playing silly buggers, I felt like a moody teenager again. The spacedout-ness was coming and going in huge waves lasting about 2 hours each way. 90pct of my usual symptoms are physical in nature and this was a real shock to feel so …… headf&&ked.
By about 5pm the rollercoaster ride slowed right down and peace and calm returned to a degree.

Last night I visited my muscle testing man, he checked the 2 new fillings and 1 new inlay and confirmed that my body was NOT rejecting them and that they where fine and dandy. He checked all my remaining amalgams and reconfirmed that they where all still causing me weakness and they I should continue and get the rest of them out asap. I will, one quadrant at a time, every 1-2 weeks depending how I feel.
We also double checked all my supplements to make sure I was on the right dose, added some more, and deleted some as I seem to have finally built up some reserves.
On my return journey I got lost in the car! How strange? I have been to see him 20 times this year.

Today, 2 day’s after removal, emotionally and spacedout-ness is gone & I am back to normal, Hooray, and can look back and almost laugh, although was not even slightly funny at the time.

I have also noticed myself sweating, which i normally find difficult.

When I think of my teeth, I can feel them “throb”, but now the quadrant that had the amalgams out “feels” (not looks) free. When I touch that part of my face the muscles are relaxed, the other teeth and gums and cheek with amalgam feel swollen. They are not swollen, it’s the repaired gums+cheek that are relaxed. This seems to be a good thing.

When walking my ankles are free and relaxed. (I don’t expect anyone to know what I’m talking about here, but it’s an Alexander Technique thing.)

This morning I awoke with a headache, pretty bad heartburn and my tongue had a beautiful green blanket wrapped around it. I have never had a green tongue before. It was a very bright green too and I had a really horrid taste in my mouth. In spite of all this weirdness I felt pretty damn good, clearheaded and alert, which is not normal.

As the morning has progressed my lower back really hurts, but apart from that I’m back to normal.
BM this morning had CHAFF in it, which if you have done any Liver flushes, you will know what I mean. I consider chaff to be a good thing because it means my liver is working and flushing gunk out. In this case I assume it means my liver is working overtime. The pain in my lower back indicates my kidneys are working overtime too. I am currently kidney cleansing with Andreas Mortiz formula herbs which should hopefully help the kidneys function as best as possible. I have been on the watercure for 6 months and today I will drink even more water than normal.

Tonight I’m looking forward to a lovely long 30 minutes soak sweating in a very very hot bath with epsom salts, sodium bicarbonate and hydrogen peroxide.

I did have one amalgam out earlier in the year by a normal dentist with zero protection and the next day was just another normal day, none of the above happened then.

Sunshine

Hi SS, very interesting experience. I wonder if those symptoms are to do with the short term exposure during removal, or whether it's some kind of shock to the body to lose a dose another source of ongoing mercury or both. Whatever it is, sounds like the body has undergone some detoxing.

I am glad to hear that you are bouncing back again from this, should be encouraging to you to get the rest done. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> And another relief is confirmation that the replacement materials are biocompatible! Again, I cannot recall which ones you got put in, so I'd be interested to hear again (was one cerec?). Sorry, but this is my ongoing brain fog and short term memory issues.

It's also interesting that the one filling you had without protection left you the same, you had no aftereffects? Perhaps it was because it was just one.....? At any rate, kind of unusual.

Keep us posted on the rest as and when it happens. Great to hear that things are well underway and going well so far.

Cheers.

The inlay is “Cerec"
Replacement white fillings are Voco “Grandio”
When I was biocompatible tested, I tested negative to about 23 products out of 50 tests, so there was still plenty for the dentist to choose from.
I was in the chair for 3 hours, the majority of the time was for the inlay.

Yes, is very satisfying that they are biocompatible for me, especially after all the research, reading and testing I have done.
It now looks like a bridge I had replaced 5 months ago is NOT biocompatible and will also need replacing, but that’s for later, not to mention another £700 later <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Re “I wonder if those symptoms are to do with the short term exposure during removal, or whether it's some kind of shock to the body to lose a dose another source of ongoing mercury or both”
– Me, I think is my body reacting to the shock of having the mercury removed from the whole quadrant. When I had the other tooth hacked out with no protection there was still two amalgams either side in that quadrant. My body just kept on doing what it could, which was just maintaining me as best it could, given all the toxins in me. That first night this week felt like shellshock and now I have all these strange symptoms happening, one on top of the other, bam bam bam. I currently have a vice like headache, pretty bad lower back pain and just had a very minor wave of spacedout-ness flowing over me, and you know what…overall I feel lively and in excellent spirits and looking forward to a cool weekend.

So yeah I think my body is breathing a sigh of relief and healing. (re-reading this last sentence again ……no…. maybe its just wishful thinking….but nothing wrong with the Placebo effect, and in any case time will tell.)

At some point all these toxins in me are gonna have to give up and allow my body to recover. I have tried, and am doing, so many things to get well…it has to happen at some point. My fingers and toes are crossed that the amalgams are the root cause.

Sunshine

Cerec, as far as I am aware is proving one very stable material. I have heard of grandio also and that is another good one as far as composites go. It's made in germany and they have a pretty good reputation for their materials. both tested fine on my serum test form too (and I am very chemically sensitive). Glad you got them! Any challenges removed from your immune system is an extra bonus. unfortunately I have a few problems with my existing materials and two are incompatible for certain and typicallyare filled in the biggest cavities. Filtek supreme is the name. Also one dentist viewed my xray online and thinks I have a very leaky filling also (composite).

Yeah your body could already be trying to dump some mercury from having much less in the mouth. and as it was done with full protection, it's probably enabled that to happen. At least you didn't get a whole pile out at once, which I reckon is dangerous even with protection.

Well whether it's the placebo effect or not, you've just got another source of mercury out of you...that's gotta be good either way.

Pity about the bridge! Do you know what it is? I'm curious about people's dental materials because I like to check them on my own list and see how they came up with me.

Re : all out at once. I’m very glad I did NOT get them all out in one go, if I felt like I did with just getting 3 removed….i dread to think how I would have felt with all 7 out at the same time.
Now I know why some people recommend getting them out in stages, in quadrants.

Next appointment is Tuesday, which is 6 days after the first removal. I know you are not supposed to get more out on 7/14/21 days after removal because of the bodies’ immune cycle, so I will delay appointment. Last thing I need is symptoms on top of symptoms….

Re the other bridge I need replacing, I don’t know, was taken out by a Muggle dentist, but I will call them next week and see if they kept a record of the material used. I bet u £10 they have no record!

Today I feel average. No space trips, heartburn, green tongue, headaches or any other weirdness, just lower back pain which is basically constant anyway…just bit more painful than normal.

Re your problems with yr existing materials…any plans about what to do about them yet? Have you had a second or third opinion? It really helped me seeing different people, they all have differing ideas about the same problems. Or have you just found this stuff out?

Sunshine

Congratulations Sunshine, you are on your way!!!

Sandi
xoxo

Yep, even with the best possible protection, I do not believe that it can possibly warrant removing all amalgams in one sitting. That is just my opinion. I mean for starters, the very fact people get them removed is to stop the ongoing daily intake of mercury. Why would we wish to expose ourselves to a sudden load of it in one go, even if it is somewhat smothered by some protection. Mercury gets through just about anything anyway.

Good move to avoid the 7 day immune cycle. Even if it isn't completely accurate, I think why take risks anyway if you can easily avoid it.

Yes, it would not surprise me if the dentist who replaced the bridge didn't keep a record. I've been down that road! Dentist that said my records had "vanished" when I had asked for the names of the materials used on me...how convenient.

Well, for me now I dont have any real 'set" plan I guess because I dont consider there are any clear answers. But what I would like to do is get my existing composites redone in cerec, because they are shrinking/old, plus apparently incompatible by the serum testing I had done...and also the coincidence that I seemed to get much worse after they were replaced....but again I had wisdom teeth done at that time too, so there it could be anything!

Unfortunately my health is at such a low ebb that dental work for me might make things a lot worse considering exposure to vapor already in the dental office (which enver fails to poison me immediately), the dental removal itself and the toxins in the anaesthetic. Normally this would be a non issue, but I am extremely sensitive and sick these days and it takes nothing to knock me down and for a very long time. Frankly I am scared, but if I do nothing...then either way I won't be going forward. Still trying things with my diet and hoping I get a bit stronger. Unfortunately doesn't take much to tip me over and I'm back attempting to recover again. This is frustrating to say the least.

I've had a few opinions on what is wrong. I've beent old I have fungal problems (candida), been told I have formaldehyde toxicity by two independent health professionals from their own individual testing, told I have incompatible dental materials by the same people, told I have liver imbalance by urine testing (fast liver phase I, underactive liver phase II, which is very bad, means toxins are made more toxic and are not being eliminated properly), told I have dead pulp/gangrene in my mouth/jaw but two independent health professionals disagree on where exactly this is. Bone scan showed upper ex wisdom tooth sites have cavitations, yet EAV testing shows lower left side has the problem. Also have periodontal gum disease to cap things off (which I think is simply a result of all of these matters impacting my immunity). Not sure what else is wrong, but that should keep me going for a while <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Hi Sandy, thanks for the encouragement. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Sunshine

Bex Bex Bex

I enjoy reading your posts and learning with you, but has so far been mostly one-way traffic, so let me ask you a couple of leading questions. Your health is holding you back from going forwards …..and that young lady is where I have been, and where you currently are at, and that is FUBAR!

“Health at low ebb”; yes I thought long and hard about amalgam removal because of this same thing. Luckily this new difficult diet I’ve been doing has worked ….to some degree. (All my intolerances remain in place, so it is only mild success on the diet.) So I felt I could go ahead with my amalgam removals, although reading the nightmare stories out there….makes my toes curl…….my wife just says “well don’t read them then”, but I do not bury my head in the sand any more. This mild success in my diet has enabled me to go forward with amalgam removal, or at least be happy with my decision to go for it.

So………… leading questions

1) WATER? How much do u drink per day. Straight water. Nothing else in it. Just water. Honestly.

Next

2) DIET: I know u on very restricted foods but do you ever cheat? Ever? The odd donut? Chocolate bar? Wheat? A little bit of Dairy? Milk in your tea? Caffine? Cornflakes for breakfast? Sugar in coffee? White rice? Sausage sarnie? Ice cream?
And yes, I do know how difficult it is NOT to have the odd slip up, I live it every day, especially when with other people…… the question is not “why do you cheat.”
The question is “do you EVER cheat at the diet” and eat the wrong thing? And if so, how many times per day or week?

These two issues had a massive impact on my health and until I had learned a lot about them, I did not believe what one simple solitary mouthful could do to me.

I know you are well clued up on all these things, but humour me and I will reply with what I have learnt and lets see where this leads. If nothing else you will find out some more of my journey to date!

Note: I will only ever make comment of what has worked or not worked for me and that I have actually done myself. If I have not tried something I will say same, or that I just read it someplace.

Sunshine

PS, minor question for gums….Oil Pulling? Done that yet?

Ma new doctor ( who ain't a doctor cuz we all know by now these folks don't do nuthin but write perscriptions an then write more perscriptions for dealin with the side effects a the first perscriptions...) says oil pullin is a MUST for all kindsa reasons an has seen some remarkable results.
Just don't sneeze all over your ironin while doin it like what all happened to me. Had to buy a caterin size "stain- devil "for oil stain removal.

lol ok Sunshine. Well, the MOST I manage to gain in life is some form of control over symptoms. All the things I am doing now used to give me dramatic improvements and I was already well on the road to recovery years ago from mercury toxicity.

My immune system pretty much crashed after an infection that has never left me in 2003. Still get fever, sore throats etc whenever I attempt to exercise. Even if I do not get this, I am ill permanently. On top of this is the possible cavitations in the jaws (which I've mentioned previously). I'm sure people are sick of me going through it all, but just to recap, that my lack of strides in health are from being held back by a number of things at once, some of which I am no doubt not aware of.

Yes I do cheat on this diet. I usually get to about 10 days to two weeks and I crash. I keep getting back up and trying but obviously my excessive cravings for the wrong foods lead me astray (lack of will power).

I dont do oil pulling, but I do use a gum treatment which appears to aid my gums pretty well. If I stop using it, they revert back to being as bad as ever, which I believe adds to the load if my body is constanty fighting one thing or another. I believe it's a vicious cycle with one thing setting off another. I believe periodontal gum disease is immune related. My gums were fine before all these problems hit (even with mercury toxicity they were ok). THe gum treatment does actually control this. It also contains colloidal silver.

But my cheating I believe is a big issue here. I do not believe the diet will cure me because there is something much bigger than that at work (obviously), but unless I can pinpoint exactly what all the problems are and how to cure them, then the best I can do in the meantime is help my body as much as I can. Obviously cheating is not going to help.

My last cheats consisted of donuts, biscuits (cookies for those from US), ice cream, lol basically all that you mentioned~! I went hell for leather. Interesting thing happens when I cheat. My body (legs in particular) will start to get puffy looking, I actually start looking swollen. As though the toxins are somehow affecting my kidneys and my body is attempting to buffer the toxins with fluid....not sure if that's what it really is, but it's a strange thing.

My cheating so far has happened everytime I have been at someone's house and they have offered me something (sister in law usually). I will start by saying "no thanks, I am really trying to stick to my diet" (they know I'm on a candida diet). But after a lot of "no, but thank you anyways", I'll weaken and usually it is something non sugar like "pasta" or "lasagna" and here is the trap. Because it's not sugar, I get the idea into my head that it won't be too bad, but no sooner have I tried it, than that little button is pushed and I'm gone. I mean I will bulldoze anything in my path (food wise). I'm a machine.

So by the next day, I find I cannot wake up properly (drugged feeling). I'll spend the day in a stupor like condition and having to start frm scratch because one cheat, even if it's not direct sugar appears to be the thing that flicks the switch. So here i am again, starting from scratch. I was proud of myself the last time, I made it to two weeks and had no intention of cheating until my sister in law made a Lasagna, which my brother refused to eat (because he had a late lunch), she sat there and stared at all the food she made and looked at me and I thought "oh hell" and it went down hill from there. I think I was trying to fool myself into believing it was for a good cause, but that's how candida works on you. Somethign happens to my brain when I'm craving, I'm sure of it because after I've given in and satisfied myself, I come back to my senses and think "why did I do that????".

So yes this is a REAL problem for me. I believe I can do it though because 2 weeks straight would have lasted had I not decided that I was doing someone else a favor by eating their food. It would help if those around me were a little more supportive, but I cannot rely on that and really it comes down to myself.

As far as water goes? I dont drink it straight at all. I drink herb teas, vitamin C and lemon in water. I figure that's pretty good....

I do mention things that have worked for me, I wouldn't pass something on if it hadn't. These things always worked in the past and still do now (to a point) if I stick with it. ie. the andy cutler protocol worked for me, and enough other people to where I feel comfortable passing that on. The diet? the same thing, but you've seen the problems. It is easy to tell others what to do, but practising what one preaches is another story sometimes. Dont get me wrong, i've managed to stick to this diet non stop in the past with little to no cheats at all. But these days I am really struggling with cravings.

I get up and start again, but I need to stick with it fulltime.

Yes there are nightmare stories out there on amalgam removals and wonderful successes. The nightmare ones appear to be those that got all their amalgams out in one session....so I think the expousre during removal must be devastating to an already weakened body. Your wife is wise, do not get your mind into the nightmare stories, because it's the successes you don't hear about. Plenty of people on here leave and plenty more join up. You only really hear the worst because they are the ones who stay on the forum. I've already seen people come and go and gotten well. Two of them chat to me on email and are VERY happy. But interesting thing is, they say diet is playing a HUGE role in this. They are not yet well enough to get into loose eating. IF they do, they find the still remaining mercury pulls them down again. If they get back on track, the diet eases the symptoms as they continue to detox the remaining mercury. As long as there is mercury, yeast will usually be there and will usually continue to pose a problem until a person is detoxed enough to where their immunity is able to control yeast without much help.

Yup I am in total agreement with oil pulling, I think those ayurvedic folks really know where it's at!!!

Sandi
xoxo

Sunshine, I've been on the Paleolithic Diet for 15 months or so. My diet was very clean for the first several months, and it has been for the last 2 months. In between that, in the winter, I did have a lot of trouble with eating some non-Paleo foods.

I think by far the biggest factor for me in doing this diet is that I want to achieve long-term health, and I know that the foods I do my best to avoid are just not good for me, and could eventually end up giving me things like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc. I really care about my body, and I also want to set a good example for my little girl, who also eats Paleo (though not as strictly as I do).

I am never tempted by processed junk food because it is poison pure and simple. It has no nutritional value, and can make a person poorly. Pick up the box of one of those donuts that look so good. What are the ingredients? It will be made of flour, probably containing soy (toxic in its unfermented state); it will have been fried in vegetable oil and so will contain trans-fatty acids; and it will be topped with sweet icing. People eat these as BREAKFAST FOODS!! I was fed them as a child. They are probably the number one worst "food" anyone can eat.

If I think these things then I just am not tempted to eat the stuff and I feel sorry for the people who do.

Before I sound too holier-than-thou, though, I have to say that I also struggle with sugar cravings, and I had a string of months last winter where it was a huge problem. If your diet is clean then theoretically you should not crave sugar or other unhealthy foods. But none of us here are well, our biochemistry is "off," and cravings can come and go as symptoms. They can be hard to deal with, I know. I think mine are due to the depression, which is worse in winter. Carb cravings seem to be a feature of winter depression and I really can attest to that.

When I "cheated," I almost always tried to stick to some kind of whole foods diet because I was never out to totally wreck my body. I would still eat protein, veg and healthy fat with every meal because those are the fundamental core to staying on an even keel. "Cheats" I had usually consisted of some kind of chocolate/milk combo because that's what gave me the biggest "comfort" factor. Too much sugar of any kind made me feel awful, and ditto with white flour; sometimes I'd add some wholemeal flour to things. I used a lot of butter. Very rarely bought any kind of processed foods from the shops. I grew up cooking things like this a hundred times over and unfortunately could still do it in my sleep.

I am also mindful that the cycle of "being good" and bingeing that I was on, and have been on several times in my life, is far worse than having slow but steady "cheats" because it's so much stress on the body. And of course I gained quite a lot of weight quickly.

I kept asking myself, did I want to "drug" myself with food, and spend so much money that i didn't actually have, on the stuff? I tried so hard, but sometimes willpower simply isn't enough. I've had unrelenting depression for 3 years and I know how tempting it can be to try to find a way to give yourself a break when nothing else works.

The reason why my diet has been so clean for 2 months now is simply this: sugar interferes with chelation. If I'm investing the time and the money in it, and am getting results, then I would be mad to sabotage that for a quick fix. It's been hard but somehow I've managed so far.

Next time you're sat next to someone eating some tasty-looking junk food, why not take that holier-than-thou attitude in your head LOL. Pity them for eating themselves into an early grave. Think about how you are taking care of yourself with the good choices you are making.

Linda.

Hi Linda, I think I will try and take that advice. I like it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Thank you! So much of this is mind over matter, that seriously I have GOT to get a plan because the yeast already has one ---> "feed me".

I have to remind myself that the very short term pleasure that I derive from these goodies only last while I'm eating and then what? They are gone, but the effects are lasting and a hinderance to improvements. Not worth it at all.

Better to eat plain and put up with on and off cravings, than give in and remain an invalid. I believe you are correct, something is OFF in our bodies to the extent that there are these kinds of insane cravings and I do not believe they are normal, not when you consider the stuff I can eat that I cannot switch off from until I get severe nausea (or worse). That is not normal and something that has gotten worse the sicker I am. I used to be a little stronger and I had more will power also. Got cravings, but not to this extent. Sadly the sicker someone is, the more essential it is to eat healthy yet often the worse their cravings will be and the weaker their will power....vicious cycle.

Also I was brought up on a LOT of junkfood, as well as good. I drank coke like it was water, ate sugar straight from the bowl as a kid (nobody knew this), ate icing sugar straight, and basically ate cookies all day, cakes, ice cream, milk shakes with plenty of syrup/sugar, and by age 11 was on my way to getting pyrohhea? (can't spell this). Some name for a gum disease...

I also have imbalance of hormones to a degree. Obviously not enough to warrant medication but enough to where the endocrinologist noted it down. I am producing too much steroid hormone (DHEA), and have a very low estrogen level. Have a problem with excess body hair and other symptoms that I've struggled with most of my life. So who knows what causes these things and whether it can be toxicity even in the womb from the Mother....

But anyway, I am on the diet and so far hanging in there and hope to continue on as I started. I think that one has to be ultra strict because it seems even a loosening up can tip one into a complete landslide (at least it does with me). i have to keep a tight rein on myself at all times.

I get it Bex, I really do. It gets very hard sometimes. And when you try to explain to someone else, they don't understand. I don't try anymore LOL.

Definitely if it weren't for the chelation, I would have given in to the cravings again and again. And yes, I'm sure a lot of it is biochemical. Willpower is sometimes about all we can use.

Sugar does act as a drug in some ways. It hits the opiate receptors. That's why so many people get such a comfort feeling from sugar and flour products. It really happens to me mega, sounds like it does to you too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Lucky us.

As we work to put the imbalances right, hopefully it will get easier. I recently found out that low cortisol can cause sugar cravings. That's a problem a lot of people here have. I am very wary of talking about serotonin because of the way big pharma has associated it with their psych drugs, but it is also true that a hit from a simple carb causes the brain to produce more serotonin, which can also give a feel-good response. I wonder if it's one of the imbalances I have because my depression is worse in winter, when people tend to have less serotonin anyway (sunlight stimulates the brain to produce it). I would never say these things on a more mainstream forum because the last thing I'd want to do is encourage someone to run off and take serotonin-boosting drugs. I'm sure you know better <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Good luck Bex and let us know how you're getting on,
Linda.

i will post three replies because its a bit long....sorry. first up, the easy stuff:

“Oil Pulling” – spot on Elvis & Sandi. Get over to curezone and read up. Will take 30 minutes to learn, its simple, easy and it works. Rinsing your mouth with oil, simple. Weird yes. It is part of my morning daily routine. Personally I can only OP with coconut oil. When I tried other oils it did not agree. All I did was to OP with VCO and it pulls the other stuff out and I then felt fine again, within minutes. It is a two way thing. Many people use different oils, but I have multiple food and chemical intolerances….just like you. I will not explain it here as curezone covers it all, but all you do is rinse your mouth with organic oil. http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=738
If you have serious gum issues you should give it a swish
I have had a rash on my arm since the age of 12. 2 weeks of OP everyday…its gone. My gums used to bleed all the time, after OPing my gums feel tight and well, with much reduced bleeding (90pct less.) my teeth whiten-up after the first swish too.

i dryskin brush at the same time because i get bored sitting around OPing. it is a great way to start the day.

Sunshine

The reason I asked about water and diet is because of all the things I have tried, and I have tried a lot, these are the two BIGGEST things that made a gigantic difference. Simple things for sure, but simple stuff that is not taught to us at school, nor in life.

1) “Water water everywhere and all the boards did shrink.” – “The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner.” I had to learn that poem off by heart when I was a little chap in shorts!
Water – now this blew my mind. Water? What about water? Simple stuff. Our bodies are made up of 70pct water. Your brain is 90pct water. If you don’t have enough water your body cannot and will not function correctly. I will recommend a book to read, but don’t let that escape your attention….”cannot and will not function correctly” and again ….without water your body ”cannot and will not function correctly.”

I discovered that I was chronically dehydrated. What? How can that be? What is that all about. I drink teas, juice n stuff, but I avoided too much liquid because it used to bloat me out….it didn’t even cross my mind that I might need water. In fact I never drank straight water. Not even on my radar!

But first, did u notice how much of your reply was dedicated to water? It’s not on your radar either because you typed only one line. (Although Linda made no comment at all!) I quote “As far as water goes? I dont drink it straight at all. I drink herb teas, vitamin C and lemon in water. I figure that's pretty good....”
That’s what I thought too. That is what everyone thinks. Unfortunately its wrong.
Drinking herb teas, vit c and lemon in water is NOT good enough. It does not provide your body with what it NEEDS to continue working as best as possible. Your body will try lots of little tricks to continue working and it will succeed, but the symptoms this lack of water leads to is rather long and will be very familiar to you when you read up about them.
Everyone knows if you are lost in the desert you can survive for about 7 days without food, so long as you have water. If you have no water in the desert it’s about 1.5 days…then you die. Water is so important it is unbelievable.

Do you know HOW your body says “Please Miss, I’m really thirsty, can I have a drink?” – it does this in exactly the same way as it says “Please Miss, I’m really hungry, I WANT TO EAT THAT DONUT NOW!” – seriously it does, the urge/desire to eat food and drink liquid is exactly the same. Even when you are in tip-top condition the body’s response is the same. If you are not aware that they are the same signals, you will undoubtedly reach for the donut and especially if that is what you usually do. Are your food cravings, food cravings?............or are u just thirsty?

Your body is 70pct water and your body uses this water up to function, doing all the things it does, the heart, liver, kidney, brain, sweating, everything all uses water all the time and it needs replacing. Surprisingly its your lungs that use the most, when you breath water vapor is expelled (or something like that, I don’t remember exactly, but lung uses the most, fact.) The water in the food you eat and other drinks is NOT enough to replace what is lost in normal daily life functioning, and even if you ate lots and lots it still would not do, because your body needs straight water to function.

I now always drink water throughout the day, my body is used to it again now and when i forget to drink it protests and I have learned the signals now. I need about 2 liters everyday, on top of any other teas, juices, vit c’s that I drink.
Whenever I reach for the lipsalve(vasoline) and my lips are dry, I now know this means I have forgotten to drink water and I need water straight way. If I don’t drink water for 3 hours my lips start going dry and tingling. Same with hunger pangs, I had lunch 2 hours ago….i’m really hungry now…I need food….well, now I have a drink of water……and all is calm, cool and collected. I am refreshed. I don’t need food, I needed a drink of water……and so do we all!

Now, don’t take it from me, take it from the best there is. “Your bodies many cries for water” by Dr Batmanghelidj. Do not be scared away by his strange name. he explains everything clearly and as easily as if you knew nothing about your bodies water needs! His book is amazing and I guarantee you will enjoy it, and you cannot fail to benefit from this knowledge. You will lend it to friends, that’s how good it is.

And the best thing is that it is easy! You don’t have to go to any doctor or hospital. You don’t have to buy anything from anywhere. You just drink a bit of water throughout the day. I add Himalayan salt crystal to mine, about 1 tsp, but best read the book about that……

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Your-Bodys-...ks&qid=1186408251&sr=1-6

The book reviews on the above Amazon link are all a very good read too.

Every single symptom I have has been helped by being correctly hydrated. Since I have been correctly hydrated I have had zero problems sticking with these bloody nightmare restricted diets.

Bex - I will post u my copy if u email me your address “danielproudfoot2001@hotmail.com”

Sunshine

May want to try pituitary glandular if think adrenals need some work

http://www.elixirs.com/products.cfm?productcode=S160


Then after 6 months or so can do the actual adrenal and thymus or a combo remedy.....

and my lips are dry

Interestingly, dry lips are a known symptom of vitamin B6 deficiency. I used to have very chapped lips all the time; a doc even commented on them. Since I started taking a B complex vit, my lips are perfectly fine.

My lips got really dry when the dentist used a plastic adhesive to adhere a temporary crown on one of my teeth. Burning, cracking, in a matter of days.

I'm allergic to some plastics. I had them remove the crown and it went away almost overnight, as quickly as it had appeared.

Dry lips are simply a sign post for you to read, what it says is up to you to decipher.
I am drying out, I drink some water. sometimes the simple answers are the best.

Water is the oil in our engines and it needs to be topped up every day.

Sunshine

if u want to read about water right now:

http://thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?page=articles/water.php

Dr Batman's book is better.

sunshine

I was recommended 6-7 books about diet and digestion (I had heartburn 24/7 and I had to go for a 20 minute walk after every meal otherwise I would get all clogged up. I did those walks everyday for about 6 months. Was a ‘mare.) When I started reading about diet I could hardly believe what I was reading. I knew so little. I am 38 years old and my knowledge was pathetic. Really, on a test I would have scored 5 out of 100. It is staggering what conventional wisdom has us believe, and I thought I had a healthy diet. I wasn’t even close. I did have to read a lot, because so much new information cannot go into my mind that quickly. I think I read 7 healthy food books in a row.

From your posts I can see that you are in the same boat as me, and up the same creek too. You are intolerant to so many foods n chemicals and that you keep getting the reactions/symptoms, one after the other, week after week in a never ending vicious circle of misery. My body never has enough time to get better because it spends all its time getting better from the previous hit.

If I eat one mouthful of, for example, cheese, what happens is my body feels pretty good. It tastes fantastic and I really do feel excellent overall. The sensation of yummy-ness is wonderful and I get an instant hit of pleasure and feeling good. 10-20 mins later I am back to normal. I am “normal” for about 20 hours, then I start to get a little bit of heartburn, then my skin on my hands goes dry, then my back starts hurting pretty badly as my spine becomes inflamed and swells up. the skin on my whole body dries out, I get constipated. My stomach stops all digestion for about 3 days. I do eat food but its as if I don’t eat any food for 3 days and I lose a lot of weight. I also feel like sh$t and want to curl up and stay away from the world. These symptoms last 5-10 days for me.

One mouthful did this. For me the same applies to all dairy/all wheat/all soya/all refined foods incl white rice/all junk foods and the nightshade family. One mouthful is all it takes.

That understanding took a LONG time to get in my head…..ONE MOUTHFUL is all it takes, to cause so much pain and troubles. So now I am past the cheating stage, I have had enough, it is ALL diet related and I only have myself to blame. I understand that my body cannot cope because its FUBAR.

The WHY of “why do I feel so GOOD eating a food that will make me SICK” is a excellent story for another day, but its fair to say we all have amazing bodies that try SO hard to remain healthy. If you didn’t get that feeling you would have been dead long time ago, but a story for another time.

So…….if you cheat you will screw yourself up. One mouthful. One mouthful is all it takes. And symptoms that last a long time. If you cheat again you get symptoms on top of symptoms!

So, how do we break the cycle? Break the vicious circle? We have tried all the bloody diets, and they work, to a degree, but they don’t really work, because we still can’t eat normal food and we can’t eat food that enables us to heal.

What we need to do is somehow STOP getting ill from eating the food we eat; so that the food we can eat can do its job of healing us. We need to have a stable period of healthy eating with no symptoms and where the body HEALS itself using the food we eat. all the supplements in the world will do bugger all if you cannot digest what you eat. This is what we have been trying to do with all the various special diets we have been working on, but its still not working, and any cheating just makes matters worse.

Catch 22: the food we eat screws us up, the food cannot do its job of healing us. If you don’t eat food then your done for anyway. Catch 22, we are screwed both ways! Or so it seems.

Phew……………. so I went on to a(nother) diet that was specially designed to do that. It was composed of foods that are guaranteed NOT to screw me up. To create a level playing field , reset to zero my digestion. Foods that did not cause a reaction with anyone, ever, because they where neutral and caused zero effects.

My foods where : lamb, trout, pears, honeydew melon, buckwheat, rice, green beans, avocado, pumpkin, extra virgin olive oil, sea salt.

This is all I ate for 10 days, and yes was difficult and meant I had to restrict my normal life, but my lifes funked so was no big deal, just a bit more tricky than usual.

I kept a food diary, took my Ph value to see my alkaline/acid balance all the time which was interesting.

Those 10 days where best 10 days of the previous 12 months I have had, because I had zero symptoms smacking me around the face! They where gradually getting less!
this made actually doing the diets easier, becaus they worked.

Next I was on a Rotation diet, which gave me a much bigger choice of foods, about 30 foods, but I was not allowed to eat the same food for another 5 days, each food was also in a group and I was not allowed to eat food from that group for the next 2 days. Was very difficult to manage and arrange. I had to sort out what and when I was gonna eat what and when…..! yes very difficult. Again it worked, slowly, but it was defo working a bit. No symptoms.

Next I was on a special diet to increase some enzymes ( I don’t know specifically) was called “HIT – increase DAO and MAO” whatever that is. Which was basically ultra healthy organic food, zero processed gunk, but also no fruit….which was very difficult indeed as that made up a large part of my diet before.

I also had lots of weird rules like no mint, no tap water, no pre-washed salads, no OTC drugs, no stored meat.

Anyway….end result was that it worked. I took no drugs, no supplements, do special herbs. Was just healthy food. For 10 day I was hungry like I had not eaten for a couple of years (I used to weigh 90kg, I am currently below 60kg now). I even put on 1kg. it was brilliant. I felt the most normal I have for a long time, although I did spent a LOT of time in the kitchen preparing all the food I ate. LOL

Then some idiot suggested I try cystine for metal detox, and I tried it like an idiot and that funked everything big style, again. Now I’m trying to get back to that, but………..now I know that it is possible through diet alone!

No way could I have figured this out myself. Reading all those booked helped me understand and help me find someone to help me. That someone designed the above diet, which is personal to me and you would defo have a different set of rules and plans of action. (I have “small intestine bacterial overgrowth” (SIBO), you have CANDIDA.)

I humbly suggest you find a nutrionist, or someone that can listen to you and design a plan of action especially for you.
The guy I found was in fact a mircobioligist, he ran lots of tests, diagnosed SIBO, then gave me my diet plan and sent me away.

This slight boost to my health has enable me to go forward with amalgam removal, which will hopefully further enable me to get better. Without the diet I could not attempt amalgam removal.

You cannot go forward because your digestion is holding you back, so digestion should be a top priority. IMHO.

Sunshine

Hi Sunshine, thanks very much for all the information you've put across. I am really interested in the oil pulling and had a good look on the forum, so I think that'll be my next bet. I may start with the sunflower oil. I'm low on cash, so dont want to get too much into the more expensive oils. Right now I'm using up my gum treatment which I got from overseas.

As for the water intake? I hear both sides of this issue, so I'm wary to start consuming water all day long. I dont see that as being necessarily the best thing either. Dont get me wrong, water is great and highly necessary but continual intake does not seem natural. Though these days it's normal to see people walking around holding water bottles and drinking it constantly. I have heard there can be a deterimental side to this. I will have to go back to where I read it and think it maybe on a forum for candida, plus heard it elsewhere too. The information on that forum is very sound too and has helped me, the lady does her homework. I'll find out more from that. I have heard the benefits of water drinking for sure, so I dont doubt it's necessary. But how much is too much? I have no signs that I observe of dehydration. My urine is almost completely clear, my skin is moist, no dry lips etc. Though I realise hunger pangs maybe a sign of dehydration, I have my doubts a little about that. I think the body for the most part is pretty good at giving signals and certainly when I'm off the diet and eating badly, suddenly I find I start getting VERY thirsty. I become excessively dehyrated and i believe it's from all the toxins, so my body definitely lets me know. I feel this is from all the fluid being used to buffer the toxins and obviously the strain on the kidneys. I also heard it can be the alcohols the yeast gives off which can excessive thirst.

THough I realise weak herbal teas and squeezes of lemon and vitamin C in a big glass of water may not constitute as raw water intake, I still feel I am gaining benefits. Again, urine almost completely clear and the rest. I may up my water intake though and drink some plain glasses a day, but I am not all for drinking excessively. I also feel that overdoing something can be as bad as underdoing it. If you are noticing benefits from it, that is enough indicator that it's right for you. I have actually done the water drinking in the past and did not notice it helped me, though this was sometime ago Also, I consume raw vegetables and they too provide natural hydration.

I do feel that a lot of my problem right now is with my diet personally. I am noticing now that I've been on it that I am really getting hit with symptoms. I am exhausted, I'm itching in the face (weird), my eyelids keep dropping and I'm cramping up. Guess this could be withdrawal from the cheating i did. I do not know how long this is going to go on for, it varies with me and sometimes can take weeks.

I agree though, obvously if the diet was a cure we would eventually be able to consume the "taboo" foods again, so if one has to KEEP on this restrictive diet, obviously there is something else amiss keeping the immunity down. Still, it's necessary to keep on the diet whilst one finds a solution to the underlying problem (whatever that maybe).

It's really annoying to have to be THIS careful permanently and one slip up is devastating. So I know how you feel about this. My problems are milk, sugar (obvously), fruit, gluten (even rice can be a problem for me, tends to worsen my candida and set off cravings again), too much yoghurt (the good kind), cheese, coffee does not seem to be that good for me either, ordinary tea can be an issue too. Obviously it's the caffeine. It's not horrendous, but I do find after drinking stronger ordinary tea that I can get nervous and palpitations (as I can with coffee, or I get fatigued with coffee).

So yeah it's an ongoing battle. Like yourself I suffer for a long time after even a small cheat. As I am right now.

I weigh 60 kg also (well actually am over that now because of my sometimes excessive appetite). Probably closer to 64 kg. So you must be a pretty slender guy. I have been underweight also and got down to 55 kg (which is underweight for me, maybe fine for someone else). I have also been overweight in my life and was gaining more by the year. So I know what it's like to be underweight and unable to gain and be overweight and unable to lose. Obviously both are imbalances and problems with nutrient intake. When I was underweight I could hardly eat at all. I was so ill that my Father would attempt to bring me in food and encourage me to eat, which I would "try" with all my might and could hardly get it in. I believe this was also due to yeast and when I went on the candida diet, though I lost a little weight intially, it went back on later once I began to absorb more nutrients and my appetite came back more.

Same for overweight. Different outcomes, but often a similar problem.