1 registered members (Russ),
1,395
guests, and 27
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
31
|
|
|
Only The Best Herbs!
Your best source of world-class herbal information! More... |
#1 Book We've Found!
"Silver" fillings, mercury detox, & much more. More... |
For Mercury Detox
Prevent mercury reabsorption in the colon during detox. More... |
Softcover & Kindle
Excellent resource for mercury detox. More... |
For Mercury Chelation
For calcium chelation and heart health. More... |
Must for Every Parent
The most complete vaccine info on the planet. More... |
Finally.
Relief! More... |
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny
Get the info you need to protect yourself. More... |
What everyone's talking about!
Safe, powerful, timely! More... |
There is a difference!
A powerful brain antioxidant for use during Hg detox. More... |
This changed my life!
This book convinced me remove my fillings. More... |
This is what we use!
The only multi where you feel the difference. More... |
Hair Tests Explained!
Discover hidden toxicities, easily. More... |
Have Racing Thoughts?
Many use GABA for anxiety and better sleep. More... |
Help Them!
Natural health for pets. More... |
The Bible We Use!
King James with study notes by Bullinger. More... |
The Bible We Use!
King James with study notes by Bullinger. More... |
Food Additives
Protect your family from toxic food! More... |
|
|
|
|
healing crisis
#24072
08/28/07 07:07 AM
08/28/07 07:07 AM
|
OP
Master Elite Member
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,597
London, UK
|
|
I’m having a healing crisis. Which (I think) is good news, just depends how long it lasts!
I have all of the following: -mild sore throat -very runny nose -mouth is dry as a bone + horrid taste -tongue is all furry and a weird color -tired, lack energy -sleeping more -nasty heartburn (but controllable with ACV) -a few spots -a few strange very small hard spots on arms & legs -lower back hurts and is weak
But the strangest thing is: I have goose bumps on my arms and legs, but I’m not cold, its actually quite warm, plus the hairs on my arms and legs are standing on end.
I’m currently doing a Humaworm parasite cleanse at the moment, day 15, so it could be that. I’m also doing a Veg Juice cleanse, no food, just veg juice for a week, day 2, so it could be that. I’ve also just had some amalgams out last week, so it could be that.
Whatever, all these fairly minor things are manageable, I just hope they do actually go away at some point and I feel better.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."
Sunshine
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24073
08/28/07 10:14 AM
08/28/07 10:14 AM
|
|
Yes, i think your body is detoxing in a big way. I never got any of those symptoms, though my fillings were drilled out with hardly any protection. good luck with the just juice diet, i tried it but gave up after a day, i got the shakes, probably adrenals.
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24074
08/28/07 11:42 AM
08/28/07 11:42 AM
|
|
Personally Sunshine, if it were me, after 15 days, I would quit the parasite cleanse, recoup and start over again next month.
I have done parasite cleanses now and then since about age 20, I'm 47 now, and never once did the yiccky symptoms last more than 5 days. I am not sure of course, but it seems to me that 15 days is too long for exaggerated symptoms.
The sore throat is not a good sign, neither the hard bumps.
Take a big dose of Vitamin C daily, maybe just use a little bit grapefruit seed extract to control candida but get off the full humaworm thing for a while. Get bacl onto a normal diet and eat whatever you want, your body knows what it needs. If apples appeal to you eat them, if you feel an urge to eat pasta, go ahead eat it. Just stay away from processed sugars best you can. Total cessation has nebver been neccessary for me, it's in a lot of foods. Check your labels, do not buy 'sugar free' products with aspartame or other chemical sweetners in an attempt to avoid sugar.
I think your body is trying to tell you something and you might be wise to listen.
Some zinc might be helpful too. The ACV is great a few times a week, or a couple days in a row every week. I see milk thistle mentioned a lot too for helping clear the liver, I bought some, I think I like that too.
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24075
08/28/07 11:45 AM
08/28/07 11:45 AM
|
|
This btw,
-lower back hurts and is weak
is a sure sign of mercury/heavy metal accumulation in your gut. Try a professional internal cleanse (colonic) if you can, should start to help take care of that right away. It'll settle from your gut into your behind and lower extremities if you do nothing about it, and then you will really be hurting. get it out of your gut while you can before it moves elsewhere.
A colonic (or two) will also help get rid of mycotoxins from parasite die off remaining your gut from the parasite cleanse.
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24076
08/28/07 01:22 PM
08/28/07 01:22 PM
|
|
Have you been tested for Lyme's disease Sunshine, my friend gets those spots when she has a flare up and many of the other symptoms too. Just a thought, hope you feel better soon.
Sandi xoxo
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24077
08/28/07 01:39 PM
08/28/07 01:39 PM
|
|
This sounds like a candida die off reaction. Taking molybdenum might help.
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24078
08/28/07 02:16 PM
08/28/07 02:16 PM
|
OP
Master Elite Member
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,597
London, UK
|
|
Hi everyone.
Thanks plenty advice. I will answer one by one.
-veg juice diet is going fine, day 2.
-parasite cleanse is going fine. To have these die-off reactions/healing crisis is a good thing, and normal for a parasite cleanse. Its not good to feel shitty, but good change is happening. I need change because status quo sucks for me at my current health levels. I cannot continue life like this. Only had these symptoms for 3 days and they all minor.
-I am taking 4 caps of grapefruit seed extract per day at the moment.
-I’m not really big on big dosage of vit C. I take it, but in regular quantities. I will post another message re vit c.
-diet, I am intolerant to all dairy/wheat/soya/nighshades/sugar in any form/all processed foods….oh yeah and my bacteria in my gut feeds off fruit so that’s out too. If I eat one mouthful of any of the above I get real bad symptoms for 5-10 days. I have had it so often it is not something I wanta try again. Ever. 5 mins of pleasure followed by 5-10 days of mega symptoms, no thks, my cheating days are long gone.
-ACV – yup take that everyday too. (Works a treat for my heartburn if I get it)
-milk thistle is already in the parasite clean to help elimination.
-zinc….thats one thing I am not taking!
-lower back pain. This is my number one problem. I have tried liver flushes, kidney cleanses, colonics. But maybe I should get another colonic after the parasite cleanse, but BM’s regular as clockwork right now.
-lymes disease – I don’t know anything about that.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."
Sunshine
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24079
08/28/07 02:24 PM
08/28/07 02:24 PM
|
OP
Master Elite Member
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,597
London, UK
|
|
This is why I limit my vit c dosage:
“Most vitamins are poor synthetic imitations of the real thing. When Nature packages it's vitamins and minerals, it includes all of the cofactors which enable you to absorb and use the vitamin. A purified substance has no such benefits. Take the ubiquitous Vitamin C - or ascorbic acid. Ascorbic acid is made almost exclusively by Chinese chemical processing companies who produce it through a highly chemicalized process using sugar as the raw ingredient.
In one experiment, subjects had their ascorbic acid levels measured before the experiment and daily during the experiment. They were then put on 1g (1000mg) of Vitamin C, increasing to 2g per day. Their blood level of ascorbic acid rose quickly. However, after a few days the levels started to fall again until they were back to pre-supplementation levels, even though the subjects were still taking the supplement. This is because our bodies are not stupid. They cannot tolerate toxic levels of ascorbic acid, so they produce an enzyme called ascorbase to break down the ascorbic acid. The more ascorbic acid we take, the more ascorbase we produce. When the subjects stopped taking their supplement, they had massive amounts of ascorbase lying around with no ascorbic acid coming in, so the ascorbase destroyed all their remaining Vitamin C leaving them with a Vitamin C DEFICIENCY.
Of course we need vitamins and minerals, but we need them in the form of food. That's why buying supplements in supermarkets is a bad idea because you are likely to get synthetic versions of the real thing that do you no good. Often they are also full of fillers, binders, additives and artificial sweeteners which make them toxic and harmful."
(and it doesn’t help I don’t want to eat fruit, which is the other “food state” source of vit c)
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident."
Sunshine
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24080
10/28/07 04:03 PM
10/28/07 04:03 PM
|
Senior Member
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 88
Ohio
|
|
I've had some symptoms similar to what you did. I'm wondering if it's a healing crisis? I started off with chapped lips for about a couple weeks. I went to my son's school for an outdoor function and woke up the next morning and my lips were swollen, red, and wrinkled!! I went to the doctor and he said it was a dermitis!! I went to a healthfood store and bought some oils for my lips. That day I slept off and on all day!! extremly tired <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/countingsheep.gif" alt="" /> I noticed I had small white bumps on my lips too. The next five day's the swelling and redness went away. I felt good!! I had a good energy level!! I also started taking digestive enzyes, my friend at the health food store said she thought it had something to do with my digestive system. I had also started a parasite cleanse around the time my lips were just chapped. I woke up on the 8th day with bumps on the inside of my lips and looks to be thrush on my tongue. I also had a bad headache to boot!! All of this has been going on for about three weeks!! Do you think it's candida? I had it about 3 years ago, prior to my removals and taking NCD. My candida deminished after taking the NCD. I have read that in a healing crisis you can experience all those negative things all over again!! Do you think the parasite cleanse has brought all this out on me? The last time I did one I had stomach problems but suffered other things that I went through when I was mercury toxic. I would appreciate any insight that anyone of you have for me!! Also I have white spots on my gums??? I can't help but to get scared when I have soo much going on with my body. I'm not sure If I'm overdoing it with everything that I've been taking?? NCD Para 90 herbal fiber blend liver detox tea vitC super foods(barley green, carrots) sea kelp-(every other day) omega 3's Thank's, Treva
Treva
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24081
10/29/07 12:23 PM
10/29/07 12:23 PM
|
|
You aren't overdoing it with the supplements, that looks like a good combo of stuff. Make sure you are getting enough C.
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24082
10/29/07 12:50 PM
10/29/07 12:50 PM
|
Senior Member
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 88
Ohio
|
|
I take 1,000 mgs a day, do you think thats enough? Thank's, Treva
Treva
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24083
10/29/07 01:54 PM
10/29/07 01:54 PM
|
|
Treva My guess would be the parasite cleanse is causing it. I am over 3 years past amalgam removal. My ND decided we should attack the candida(parasites) over the summer. I had a real crappy 3 months, that I am just getting over now, because i think we overdid it.
It is always a reminder that the only way thru this disease is to go as slow as possible on the detox; and be very aware of any herxheimer effects.
I have cut my supplements back to the basics until I feel good. I am taking vitaminC D and E ,colostrum, a multimineral, selenium, zinc, molydenum, omega 3/6/9, Amino Sport and Colon plus.
I am staying away from any of the anti fungal,bacterial and virals until I really feel strong.
Good luck Al
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24084
10/29/07 03:31 PM
10/29/07 03:31 PM
|
Senior Member
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 88
Ohio
|
|
I've taken a parasite cleanse prior to this one. I didn't have any real problems except upset stomach. After I had finished taking it I felt good. I quit craving sweets!! That was one of the reasons that I started a new one was because I couldn't get enough of the sweets. I noticed with this one that My bowels weren't moving like they should. I wonder if that has anything to do with my lips??? I will drive myself crazy trying to figure it out. Thank's again for the info it is always appreciated. Treva
Treva
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24085
10/29/07 10:31 PM
10/29/07 10:31 PM
|
Sophmore Member
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 22
|
|
Hi Treva. It's me, Andrea. It's been a while since we've been in touch. I'm sorry to hear you're not feeling well. I am also wondering if your problem is because your liver is backed up from the parasite cleanse. Have you ever had colonics. I'm thinking that maybe the cleanse is not removing the parasites since you are not eliminating frequently enough. If so, colonics can help you. At one point a naturopathic dr. recommended to me that during a cleanse, I receive two colonics per week to make sure that I get the toxins out without having them recirculating. I get colonics regularly and they do lessen the severity of reactions I am having. Are you still doing the parasite cleanse? If so, how much longer do you have on it?
Also, I agree with you that it is possible the pergot floor could be causing your problem. If you are still chemically sensitive this could be setting you over the edge. Are you able to ventilate the room with the floor in some way. I know it is cold out now, but it might help even to have a window in that room open a crack.
I hope you feel better soon.
Andrea
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24086
10/30/07 11:38 AM
10/30/07 11:38 AM
|
Senior Member
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 88
Ohio
|
|
Andrea, It's good to hear from you!! How have you been? Have you had any fillings removed? I was doing good up until now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I'll try the colonics, thank's for the info!! I stopped the parasite cleanse!! I wanted to see if that was causing my problem. i read that when the parasites start dying off it takes candida with it. Which in return can cause problems with your digestive system. I think this is what is going on with me!! Keep in touch!!
Treva
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24088
10/30/07 09:44 PM
10/30/07 09:44 PM
|
Senior Member
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 88
Ohio
|
|
Sunshine, I was taking para 90, Aim products. My lips are already showing improvement since I quit taking it. They were really driving me crazy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/taz.gif" alt="" /> I like you have experienced alot of crazy things due to mercury. I have to say when it comes to your face, it's unbearable!!! I'll get back on it when I become regular again and my lips are 100%. I did the same cleanse last feb. and I also had side affects from it a couple of weeks later after finishing it. I appreciate you responding, it always helps to know that other people have dealt with the same things. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thanks.gif" alt="" />
Treva
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24089
10/30/07 10:09 PM
10/30/07 10:09 PM
|
Sophmore Member
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 22
|
|
Hey Treva. I'm glad to hear your lips are getting better since you stopped the cleanse. I know how scary it is during a detox when unbearable symptoms crop up. For me, the fear of those worsening symptoms not going away is paralyzing. But it is a relief when you see you see it is indeed the cleanse that's causing it.
To answer your question, I'm still in the same place as before. I haven't had any removals. I think I am paralyzed by fear. I love this forum, but am scared when I read everyone's stories too. I am not in a good place, but am so afraid of getting substantially worse when I remove the amalgams. My income is necessary to support my family. My husband started his own business a year and one half ago, and is not making anything near what we need to survive.
That said, I still think about just making the appointment every day. I waiver back and forth and want to just get up the nerve to do it.
I'm glad to be back in touch. You have been such a good source of support for me and I want to be here for you too.
Andrea
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24091
10/31/07 11:35 AM
10/31/07 11:35 AM
|
Senior Member
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 88
Ohio
|
|
I was doing well with my B.M's until I started the para cleanse!! I think that played a big part in my side affects. Day three off the cleanse and I'm doing alot better. My lips are healing nicely <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I wonder if I get back on the para cleanse, will it still have the elimination affect? I know your not suppose to stop in the middle of a cleanse. thank's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/orangebloom.gif" alt="" />
Treva
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24092
10/31/07 12:09 PM
10/31/07 12:09 PM
|
|
Eat 2 or 3 tablespoons of castor oil and you'll be unblocked within 8-12 hours and feel much better.
Then I would resume the parasite cleanse and go straight into the hulda clark liver cleanse after that to finish it off and feel superb.
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24093
10/31/07 12:18 PM
10/31/07 12:18 PM
|
Senior Member
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 88
Ohio
|
|
I bought a light laxative tea to drink!! If it don't work I'll try the castor oil. I remember giving it to my son when he was a baby. I had forgot all about it!! Thank's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smileyflower.gif" alt="" />
Treva
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24094
10/31/07 12:41 PM
10/31/07 12:41 PM
|
Senior Member
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 88
Ohio
|
|
Andrea, thank's!!! My lips looked like a 100 year old lady's. There much better. Sorry to hear about your financial situation!! It's funny that it's soo cheap getting the fillings. To get them out is whole different story. I wish they (dentist) would have to pay for all the pain and suffering that they have induced in all of us. I don't understand why a silver filling lawsuit hasn't stuck? All the people that are living a life of misery because of dentist choices. They choose to put the poison in us <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I could go and on!! I hope all is well with you. Keep me posted on your progress!! Thank's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/waterlily.gif" alt="" />
Treva
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24096
10/31/07 01:03 PM
10/31/07 01:03 PM
|
|
I bought a light laxative tea to drink!! If it don't work I'll try the castor oil. I remember giving it to my son when he was a baby. I had forgot all about it!! Thank's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smileyflower.gif" alt="" /> Castor oil is great. Some people here use it externally to help their liver release toxins so I assume it has the same effect when eaten. Most surely it releases the bm <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> and is compatible with a parasite cleanse. I was doing colonics for a while, they are effective especially iof you have never had one, it's a must to loosen old stuff especially. I kind of question the stirring up and mixing around part of it past a certain point though, especially during a parasite cleanse. The last one I had didn't make me feel all that great so I am going to just stick with the castor oil now and then for a bit.
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24097
10/31/07 01:37 PM
10/31/07 01:37 PM
|
Senior Member
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 88
Ohio
|
|
Sunshine, the last time I did a para clense was last feb., so I think I was due for one. I plan on restarting it tonight!! I hope it won't flare my lips up again. Another thing that I notice that has subsided is my digestive problems. It amazes me what kind of problems that para. can cause!!
Treva
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24098
10/31/07 01:44 PM
10/31/07 01:44 PM
|
Senior Member
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 88
Ohio
|
|
So Sick, I'll definently keep the castor oil on hand!! I didn't know that It helped cleanse the liver. Bonus <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Something that I've noticed that is positive is I don't get fatigued after I eat anymore. Was the para. causing this? Acually I've felt decent aside from my lips and digestive system. Thank's again for all the info <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/orangebloom.gif" alt="" />
Treva
|
|
|
Re: healing crisis
#24099
10/31/07 02:08 PM
10/31/07 02:08 PM
|
Sophmore Member
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 22
|
|
Hi Treva. If the castor oil does not help, there is a non-addicting, natural laxative product that an ND recommended to me to use during a cleanse if I got backed up. It is called Colon Max by Advanced naturals. It definitely works as I've used it in situations similar to yours. Good luck with going back on your parasite cleanse!
Andrea
|
|
|
|