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Re: 4-6 month post amalgam organ mercury dump
#24125
08/28/07 08:46 PM
08/28/07 08:46 PM
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You can start using chelators to begin picking up the mercury that is filling you back up again. Andy explains how to do this. You are safe at this stage to start using ALA, either with DMSA or alone every 3 hours around the clock.
You may want to just try DMSA alone for a while to see how you go. It is up to you. This dumping stage went on for about 2-3years with me because I failed to use a safe consistent chelating protocol. Instead I was all over the place and was often trying to recover from backfire effects from random detoxing. I did not need to put myself through that!
Had I done things better and more consistently, I imagine I would have sped everything up far more and in the process made life more tolerable with this protocol.
supplements may not do enough other than provide some support. Though I personally (at the time) found vitamin C, vitamin E, selenium, zinc and microhydrin to be the greatest help with detoxing and support. Chelation really was the only one that got a hold of this stuff properly and sped things up.
Horrible as it is, this is where true healing begins. Your body can go into a sort of "remission" after amalgam removal (though not for everybody) and you can "feel" like you're improved. But when the dumping stage starts, you feel repoisoned and sometimes even WORSE than you felt with the amalgams, because of the detoxing.
Mercury poisoning is horrible, but in a sense the body is trying to store it, so you may not notice the symptoms as much as you do when it's coming out of you in detox mode. It depends on the person. Some people get through this easier than others and some notice almost immediate improvements or even cures upon amalgam removal alone.
So, your dumping stage at the moment may not last as long as mine. I have severe retention toxicity and this goes for ANY toxins I'm exposed to. I hold onto them for AGES after exposure. Which is why my tissues tend to get puffy and I remain chronically ill long term.
But again, this dumping stage i believe is really the healing stage. I dont know what sets it off, and why the body suddenly decides its time to dump the storage, but perhaps it takes a while after amalgam removal for the body to adjust to no longer storing it, to now detoxing it....?
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Re: 4-6 month post amalgam organ mercury dump
#24127
09/01/07 05:12 PM
09/01/07 05:12 PM
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i am 16mths post removal and having symptoms i never had before, burning head, neck,arms and feet,pains in head, feel like im going into a coma, feeling like there is a band around my head,bad muscle twitches and air hunger. I used ALA last week, symptoms came on then. Dawn.
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Re: 4-6 month post amalgam organ mercury dump
#24128
09/01/07 06:55 PM
09/01/07 06:55 PM
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I did not seem to experience this 4-6 month dump, but was on all kinds of supplements, and felt like I started dumping a month or two after, and it is still going on.
I am 14 months post amalgam, and have done 26 rounds of ALA. I did the last round 50 mg ALA only, and had some real rough days after. But I felt good, almost normal at end of round! It took about 3 days to have the symptoms go away, and now I almost feel like I want to stop this for a while. It's kinda scary, like "What if I am causing damage here?". I looked back at my records, and see I did ALA only one other weekend, but I did not have as bad a reaction after that time.
I think the ALA really stirs things up in the brain??? causing these symptoms. In the long run, maybe we need to do this to get the mercury out and be healed, but it is really hard to function when you are affected like that. I see there was a guy named Steve on here a year or two ago who cured himself doing a week on and week off of ALA only for months, maybe that is the way to go. Just tough it out, but I still want to know if this is safe to do.
Anyone else notice ALA brings major symptoms on after the round?
My other point is maybe it is better to just go natural, like Russ and Laura - they seemed to do better than people using ALA. I do know of one guy at work who had this mercury poisoning just like us back in the 80s, and he went natural, and after a year or two, he felt much better! And before he got his dental revision, he could hardly walk! He and a nurse who had this problem years ago were two of the people who helped convince me that this mercury toxicity is really true.
TW
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Re: 4-6 month post amalgam organ mercury dump
#24129
09/01/07 08:08 PM
09/01/07 08:08 PM
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what did russ and laura do?
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Re: 4-6 month post amalgam organ mercury dump
#24132
09/02/07 11:18 AM
09/02/07 11:18 AM
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i agree, ALA does stir things up but i have to go with it if i want to get better, i have 2 kids and need to work one day,its very hard being a parent when you are poisoned like this. im doing another round starting today,il have to be brave. Cheers dawn.
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Re: 4-6 month post amalgam organ mercury dump
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09/02/07 02:22 PM
09/02/07 02:22 PM
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Similar to Dawn, I am 15 months post amalgam removal, and there is no doubt that I am better. I have lost a lot of symptoms like angina, totally shot female hormones, thyroid and adrenals are pretty much balanced. I hate to think how sick I would have been had I not removed my amalgams - my body had already ground to a halt.
I am doing DMSA at 12.5mg and I have a different round each time. Sometimes I feel good on round, and get horrid redistribution symptoms afterwards (hungover, yeast flare, irritability). Other times I get full-on symptoms on round (yeast, excessive salivation, metal taste, pounding heart, irritability, extreme fatigue) and feel good after the round. Why is each round so different?
The mercury mobilization symptoms seem to be getting more extreme - possibly as I get rid of more mercury, my body finds it possible to shed more during the DMSA rounds . If this is the case it is great, but it makes me feel that I am not making any progress at all, and when is it going to end?!! I feel as bad now as I did after amalgam removal, just not all the time, but still pretty frequently. I have been pretty much debilitated today (day 2 of DMSA round), despite usual thyroid dose / adrenal support / diet, so it must be the mercury. It is quite depressing to think that this could go on for years.
Dawn - those symptoms are low thyroid - the band around the head and air hunger. I have dropped my Armour dose to 1 grain and added in some T3. This is working really well for me and has taken away some other symptoms. My thinking is that mercury toxic people don't convert T4 to T3 properly, and there is too much T4 in Armour for us to benefit properly from it. Dropping the amount of T4 and increasing T3 helps this problem.
I haven't added in ALA yet - I am sure my body burden is too high. I am also waiting to get on with life - three young kids, and my own things I want to do. This illness has taken too long already.
PM me if you want to. Think we've got lots in common.
Nicola
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Re: 4-6 month post amalgam organ mercury dump
#24135
09/02/07 07:29 PM
09/02/07 07:29 PM
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You see
This is where 95% of the people on this board are making the hugest mistake....... thinking they can take a few doses of ALA or whatever and think they feel much better in 3 days.
Think 50 mgs DMSA every 4 days for 1 year and 100mgs every 4 days for 1 year,, and then you will actually be cured without having major reactions that feel like hell. Your mind is playing tricks on you because your brainwashed into thinking there is always a magic pill to make you well, like asprin or something........
Go and get a few myers mineral push low dose once per week too
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Re: 4-6 month post amalgam organ mercury dump
#24137
09/03/07 01:03 AM
09/03/07 01:03 AM
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You see
This is where 95% of the people on this board are making the hugest mistake....... thinking they can take a few doses of ALA or whatever and think they feel much better in 3 days.
Think 50 mgs DMSA every 4 days for 1 year and 100mgs every 4 days for 1 year,, and then you will actually be cured without having major reactions that feel like hell. Your mind is playing tricks on you because your brainwashed into thinking there is always a magic pill to make you well, like asprin or something........
Go and get a few myers mineral push low dose once per week too
I wholeheartedly agree with this approach....I think that this type of chelation deserves some consideration, my ND and the people he has studied with have had some great successes by chelating with DMSA every third day' it may be slow, but it is much less stress on the adrenal and immune system and other vital organs too. As individuals we deserve special consideration and may respond to different types of treatment....Cutler may not have all the answers. Sandi xoxo
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